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 * 1) Paul Raymond (musician) -
 * Hello DASHBot! Thank you. I am a person who actually has no interest in that article but created it because another article was being hijacked by the text. Motmit (talk) 22:08, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Sylvia Payne
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Robert Lacey Everett
There's no need for sarcasm in an edit summary when you had provided no reference at all for an assertion of fact. Before I edited the article, the only ref in the paragraph which referred to his 1880 candidacy and to the loss of his seat in 1910 was an unreliable source which made no assertion on either fact.

I had checked Craig, which listed him as a Liberal. Since the point was unreferenced, I probably should have simply deleted it rather than tagging it as citation needed, but please don't blame me for your failure to reference something. Since the sources disagree on his party, I have noted the discrepancy in a footnote. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:00, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * How nice to get a message from a human being! Motmit (talk) 12:02, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Richardson (MP)
Hi Motmit

I am not sure what your source was for labelling Thomas Richardson (MP) as a Conservative, but Craig lists him as a Liberal and then a Liberal Unionist, so I changed that when I expanded the article. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:41, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah. I think I see the source: the WP article Hartlepool (UK Parliament constituency), in which Richardson was labelled as a Conservative back in this edit in May 2006. Now corrected. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:01, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks - 1885 list now fixed Motmit (talk) 10:08, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for David Haig-Thomas

 * ... that David Haig-Thomas who rowed for Great Britain at the 1932 Summer Olympics was an ornithologist, arctic explorer and commando officer who was killed in action on D-Day?


 * Self-nom 1,853 hits

DYK for Edward Loch, 2nd Baron Loch

 * ... that Lord Loch was a World War I British General who went to the dogs?


 * Self-nom 8,400 hits

DYK for Rowland George

 * ... that oarsman and 1932 Olympic Champion Rowland George was awarded the Order of the British Empire and the Distinguished Service Order for his service during World War II?


 * Nom by another editor 1,102 hits

Benson
There doesn't seem to be a huge amount online about him - though it does seem that he reached the rank of major-general, so there's an argument to say he's notable. I can't find any trace of a Times obit or anythign unfortunately. David Underdown (talk) 11:47, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK
I nominated your article Sir Edward Moon, 2nd Baronet for DYK. Joe Chill (talk) 22:36, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your interest. Regards Motmit (talk) 23:36, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * .. but unfortunately, as a result, some interfering French-speaking busybody has taken it upon her/himself to rename the article and that of his father. Motmit (talk) 13:01, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Johnny Douglas
Hi there.

Thanks for the link, the mentioned clubs helped me to do some research. If u r interested in adding another sentence about his footballing career might be helpful. In fact he played for an England selection, but for a team of the Amateur Football Association (and not the England amateur national football team of The Football Association). Greetings --Ureinwohner (talk) 20:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ian Fairbairn

 * ... that the unit trust was devised by the British Olympic rower Ian Fairbairn, son of rower Steve Fairbairn?


 * Self-nom 450 hits

Did You Know problem
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DYK for Edward Moon

 * ... that before Sir Edward Moon, 2nd Baronet, was a baronet, he was a rower?}}


 * nom by another editor 680 hits

DYK for Culham Bridge

 * ... that Culham Bridge has twice been an important defensive position on the River Thames?}}


 * Self-nom 2,200 hits


 * Nice one Motmit. I'm on a bridge mission too at the moment. I had a lovely copy of Thacker in my Christmas stocking and recently bought Phillips' "Thames Crossings" (from Amazon for 1p!!) which massively cuts down on the trips to the library.


 * We went out on the river today - first time this year that the combination of weekend, weather & river conditions have been favourable. Didn't go far, just down to Dorney Lake & sat in the sun eating lunch and reading the papers. Bliss. All best,  Nancy  talk  18:21, 20 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, I am loving Thacker's anecdotes and chatty style. I'd bet he was a wonderfully entertaining person to spend time with. I made a start on an expansion of Clifton Hampden Bridge this morning so you might have even more catching up to do..... :) Do give me a shout if you are planning on working on any other Thames Crossings as I'll scan & email anything useful from the Phillips for you - he's a bit patchy, some bridges/tunnels get several pages whilst others only a scant paragraph but even when brief its all good. All best. Nancy  talk  12:05, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Perica Vlašić

 * ... that Perica Vlašić won Diamonds at Henley, even though he turned up the day before the regatta without a boat?


 * Self-nom 586 hits

River Thame
Hi Motmit, just in case it's not on your watchlist, I've had a look at the matter you raise about the River Thame. There's also a debate about its name if you'd care to comment. Best wishes Andy F (talk) 21:03, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for your note about River Thame on my talk page. While I see the logic of your argument, I worked on the Thames during the 1970s and the reach between Shillingford Bridge and Day's was known as Shillingford reach. A solution might be to simply say the confluence is 1 km below Day's in the reach between Day's and Benson locks? Andy F (talk) 23:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Inky
What year is that picture of Inky from? I'm guessing mid 1960s? Can't quite work out where it is either; I'm thinking just in front of the barge, but some things don't quite fit. Any idea? Thanks. Ericoides (talk) 21:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah? Was that before the gym and pool were built. I still can't make it fit, particularly with regard to the houses over both the car roof and his shoulder, but then I can't recall where the war memorial was, which doesn't help? Ericoides (talk) 07:04, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
 * With those buildings still to be built no wonder I was disorientated. So the barge would be behind that large tree on the extreme right. Thanks for the replies, a nice trip down memory lane. Ericoides (talk) 10:18, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Re DYK for William Milman
FYI: I took a quick look at your DYK nomination for William Milman. It's a nice hook but IMHO it is somewhat misleading even if one can argue it is literally accurate. Other reviewers might feel differently ...

--Mcorazao (talk) 17:33, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Like Edward Loch above perhaps. Motmit (talk) 18:50, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Douglas McLean (rower)

 * ... that "Ducker" McLean may have lost Oxford a University Boat Race because he did not jump out of the boat?
 * This was an expanded cricketer article
 * Own-nom 3,000 hits

Article assessment & request
Hi Motmit - I saw you rating the Thames articles recently and meant to say something at the time, but, well you know how easy it is to be distracted on this place and I clean forgot. Anyway, a belated thumbs up from me for doing a great job at a dull but important task.

You mentioned how some of the more important stubs were bridges I'm open to suggestions and have time on my hands at the moment and I'd rather it spend doing something constructive than getting in to circular conversations over deleted articles which seems to be my fate presently. So if there are any stubs that particularly spring to mind on the non-tidal that you think particularly deserving then please do let me know, I'd prefer Upper/Middle Thames as I'd rather leave the tidal bridges to Iridescent who seemingly effortlessly turns them in to Featured Articles with a skill that I could not begin to emulate. All best, Nancy  talk  15:18, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: Nostalgia
Yes, click on my first page move edit, which is this one in the case of River Thames, then keep on clicking "next revision". The edits you find from 2001 using this exercise are the ones that I imported. This works because the previous/next revision feature works by revision ID, not date; the edits I import have a high revision ID because they were imported. The way that the previous/next revision feature works is not ideal for diffs, so it may be changed in the future. Graham 87 09:00, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that - I can't see the net difference though - if there is any. Rgds Motmit (talk) 09:11, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm adding edits to the page history, not changing the page in any way. If you check the diff of my import-related edits, nothing should come up. Graham 87 09:13, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the confirmation Motmit (talk) 09:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
I actually needed the article for a similar reason. I needed to explain delinquent (royalist) for an article I am writing on Thomas Belasyse, 1st Viscount Fauconberg and I am writing an article about him because he is mentioned in an expansion I am writing for an article I created a few days ago called Treaty of Neutrality (Yorkshire)! As Aleksandr Orlov would say simples! -- PBS (talk) 11:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of William Milman
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Proposed deletion of Beerage


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Hang on in there...
Greetings Motmit - don't let 'em get to you. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 21:33, 17 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks old friend - no I wont. Motmit (talk) 21:38, 17 March 2010 (UTC)


 * That's the spirit - hit 'em for six!--Technopat (talk) 21:47, 17 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Well at least this lot did! -Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket Motmit (talk) 22:02, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of John Erskine Clarke
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Hi. I was intrigued by JE-C article. I went to find "St Michaels Derby" but could find no picture. I found a ref to the one in Alvaston .... is this the one that is referred to? I also found a ref which implied there was one in the centre. Any knowledge? Victuallers (talk) 19:05, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Lifting Images
To "lift" images you need to know about copyright law and decide your moral position. The law says that things come out of copyright 70 years after the author/photographers death. Thats clear .... but! some organisations claim that the photocopy/photo that was taken of an old picture is their "work of art". Some call this copyfraud ... the UK museums say they need this wrinkle in the law to keep operating. Wikipedia have decided that they don't believe in copyfraud. So for UK pictures the situation is clear if you can work out your legal stance. Other countries can be clearer. e.g. the US rule is published before 1923.

Which brings me onto St Michaels. I found it! here. This site is a good example. It claims all its pic are copyright. The one shown actually is as it was taken in the 1950s. Others are (in mine and WP's opinion) fair game. Our erskine-clarke picture is much clearer as it is I guess taken when he was middle aged and should be out of copyright. So no one owns it ... although some may feel some ownership and should be attributed. Hope thats helpful. Victuallers (talk) 21:57, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Finishing three lengths ahead
Only one? If I promise to savour them, can I get to try 'em all? After all, we finished three lengths ahead.--Technopat (talk) 17:27, 25 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Cheers! - but I'll wait till the sun goes over the yardarm.--Technopat (talk) 13:28, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of "Richard Davies (MP)"
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 * As Technopat says "An article - perfectly formatted and with four inline citations - on a person who was High Sheriff of Anglesey, a Member of the UK Parliament (for 18 years), and Lord Lieutenant of Anglesey is NOT a candidate for speedy delete." American teenagers! Motmit (talk) 15:40, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

London bridges
Hello. If List of Bridges in London redirects to List of crossings of the River Thames, shouldn't London bridges as well? I certainly understand your reason as stated in your edit summary, and if you plan to expand either title to include bridges in London not crossing the Thames it makes perfect sense, but it wouldn't make sense, imo, to have an article just duplicating the greater portion of List of crossings of the River Thames. Btw, the hatnote came up because of a recently-closed move request at Talk:London Bridges. This doesn't concern me too greatly; just want to bring it to your attention. Station1 (talk) 19:36, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thats fine. You are probably sort of right but my interest is Thames not London. Too many people assume the Thames is only 22 miles long and the hatnote was a bit odd for a list of around 200 crossings of the Thames rather than the score or so of Thames bridges in London. It is up to the London people if they want to include Lea Bridge, Stamford Bridge Holborn Viaduct etc in List of Bridges in London, or rename the article to List of Bridges across the River Thames in London. Or you could yourself duplicate the changes in the other article. Nice to meet you. Regards Motmit (talk) 20:13, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Taking you up on that crate!
Greetings. Not planning to be over in Blighty in the near future, but I'll take you up on that crate one day - though actually I'll settle for a pint. You name the riverside pub - preferably with garden sloping down to the river bank - and I'll be there. I take it there are still some around. In the meantime, keep up the good work, and above all, have fun!--Technopat (talk) 21:07, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Nothin' left further upriver? Out by Marlow or Henley? Urban sprawl done away with England's green and pleasant? --Technopat (talk) 21:32, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Anything left in the way of whitebait downstream? Fuller's? Young's? Hope is the last of the whatchamallems we lose...--Technopat (talk) 22:09, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Good one!
Greetings Motmit - that one was long overdue. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 23:15, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Matthew William Kemble Connolly

 * ... that Major Matthew Connolly was an expert on molluscs and the father of writer and critic Cyril Connolly?}}
 * Own-nom 1,100 hits

Hello, this is very good article. I have added it to Portal:Gastropods. Feel free to add also other of your similar articles to the portal (even prior they appear to the main page and/or even those ones that the does not meet DYK criteria yet). Have a nice day. --Snek01 (talk) 13:00, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Please confirm
Greetings Motmit. I've just been expanding the KRC page and headed off to tidy up the Canbury Gardens one. Somewhere along the line, I came across Tiffin School (I remember now, over at the article on Dick Offer) and apparently they now share the Canbury Gardens Boat House. Could you please - if you have a moment and can bear to drag yourself away from sundry petty AfD pushers - confirm and/or update the relevant articles. I know I've been out of it for a long time, but this is ridiculous! Flabbergasted of Tunbridge Wells. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 23:12, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ever done any double-sculling? :) --Technopat (talk) 23:21, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * BTPITN - that's Blips That Pass In The Night. BTW, don't wish to be frivolous when there's murder victims involved, but as a kid I got meself bitten by a dog whilst cycling along that very towpath in Teddington across the river from Teddington on my way home from KRC. Cost me a bollocking from the dog's owner - for "teasing the dog" - and two tetanus jabs. Sigh!--Technopat (talk) 23:42, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for John Erskine Clarke

 * ... that John Erskine Clarke produced the first Anglican Parish Magazine at Derby in 1859?


 * Own-nom 576 hits

Mindreader
I thought the very same thing this morning; I was going through mopping up all the unrated (think I've cleared them - will know for sure when the bot runs tonight) and noticed that we were a bit "bottom heavy". I absolutely agree with your rationale re. Thames specific stuff being moved up a notch or two. I noticed that there were quite a few low importance bridges for example which should at least be mid & some - particularly the London ones - could arguably be high. Agree also that locks should at a minimum be mid with some exceptions - e.g. I would put Teddington as high. Hope you had a good Easter - I am stuffed to the gills with chocolate and just waiting for the probable migraine, it will have been worth it though :) Nancy  talk  15:18, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * And yes, do bring it up on the project talk page & we can thrash out a rough guideline over there (even if it just you & me). Nancy  talk  18:01, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Frank Willan (rower)
I've added to your new article on Frank Willan (rower), which is long enough now for DYK, if you decide to nominate it. I was interested because of his grandson Frank Willan. Moonraker2 (talk) 06:42, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. Please see here. I'm not sure about the hook? Moonraker2 (talk) 07:08, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Good idea. I've changed the hook and added a portrait. Moonraker2 (talk) 08:57, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

The Willan Family
I much enjoyed your article, and Moonraker's, on members of the Willan family. My interest is in Thomas Willan, who married Isabella Douglas, which family I am researching. Since coming across Frank Willan, (who also married a Douglas) I have become fascinated by him, and frustrated by how little I can discover about Thomas. He was a stagecoach operator, who was able to offer the government 120 horses and 40 carriages in the event of an invasion. He owned 800-1000 cows on a dairy farm in Marylebone, re-built Twyford Abbey, and owned land elsewhere as well. John James Willan (father of Frank), the cricketer, may also have been John James the stagecoach operator, on the Brighton run. Are they related? Then there is John Willan, who was, in 1745, a hostler at the Lion Inn, Barnet. Described at the time of his death as a 'great horse-contractor, late occupier of the Bull and Mouth' (a coaching inn in London), he had by then accumulated £200,000 from the acquisition of horses for the artillery at the request of the Duke of Cumberland 'on his return from Scotland'. John died at Hatton Garden about 17 July 1822. If you have come across these members of the family, I would like to learn more! I am sure Thomas Willan deserves an entry here. Shipsview (talk) 13:57, 11 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the appreciation. I'm afraid my only interest in Willan is that he was a significant umpire of the Boat Race. As for the rest of the familly I know nothing. Regards Motmit (talk) 16:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Dickie Clarke & Jim Clark
There has obviously been some confusion between Dickie Clarke (CUBC 1972), & Jim Clark (from the splendid Thames Tradesmen four & GB international). As far as I am aware Jim Clark is just J, not RJS (see HRR records, etc.) so I think the the "Richard James Scott" in the Jim Clark entry may perhaps be an error, though I see that it does give that at SportsReference. Note that the other members of the TT four are given their full initials in the HRR info, WG for Bill Mason, LD for Lenny Robertson, and FJ for Fred Bones. Interestingly, in 1970, though not later, Jim is shown as JW. David Biddulph (talk) 20:09, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Sculling on the Teddington reach
Greetings Motmit - if you happen to bump into TC - well, you know what I mean - give him regards from a nipper who used to hero-worship him and whose biggest thrill was to be allowed to carry his sculls into the boathouse.--Technopat (talk) 15:02, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Shillingford Bridge info box
C'est arrivé  Nancy  talk  09:01, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Allez la bôite. Motmit (talk) 16:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Shiplake Lock
Why do you think the £600,000 refurbishment is routine and unworthy of a heading? Please also give me more information about the convention you refer to regarding the up/downstream convention. Thanks.Tomintoul (talk) 11:00, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Response on the lock talk page. Motmit (talk) 16:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Oppenheimer's views on Germanic language
Oppenheimer has an interesting although minority view on Germanic invasions, and his ideas are somewhat topical. But I really don't think them relevant to the Thames article, which doesn't (and I suggest shouldn't - it's about a river) have a lot else to say about ethnolinguistic history. Would you reconsider your view? If so perhaps the talk page would be a good place for the arguments for inclusion. Richard Keatinge (talk) 18:59, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * This begs a lot of questions - whose "minority" view for a start. And the earth going round the sun was once a minority view. Everything going back into pre-history is pretty widely debated, and on Wikipedia we don't suppress views just because we don't like them. It is disconcerting that there does seem to be a widespread campaign to eliminate anything that challenges the traditional proto-celtic paradigm - ie that boat loads of Anglo Saxons arrived after the Romans and drove the poor old British into Wales. Perhaps they did - perhaps they did not. There is no certainty about the proto-celtic  paradigm any more than about any other, so the proper approach is to present different opinions, backed up with valid citations. The Oppenheimer (and many others) view is introduced as no more than a "suggestion". It is presented in the context of Anglo-Saxon settlement names on the river which is a perfectly valid context in which to raise the point. There is in fact quite extensive (but probably still unsatisfactory) discussion within the article on the origin of the name of the Thames. There is reference to the distinctive culture on what is the longest river in England - be it in the design of boats or settlement lifestyle. So ethnolinguistic history is pretty relevant. The article needs more positive contributions by people with a knowledge and an interest that can enhance it in these areas rather than someone hitting on it to take out what has been generally accepted for some time because " "I" really don't think relevant" or " "I" suggest shouldn't" be in it. Thanks Motmit (talk) 20:22, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for Blackwell Hall
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 06:02, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Diamond Challenge Sculls
I added a picture of the silver sculls to the article but it has just occurred to me that describing it/them as a "trophy" in the image text might not be quite the right word. Would you call it a trophy? Best, Nancy  talk  16:28, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Trophy it is then. Had a unequivocally wonderful day. First time I'd been and was utterly enchanted - it really was like an Edwardian garden party. Had a brief foray to Stewards to see the silverware but our base was the Remenham Club in the company of lots of lovely old oarsmen, many of whom had rowed up river to Henley in their skiffs and who were to a man very welcoming to a rowing ignoramus like myself and patiently answered all my dim questions explaining why such and such a crew were 3 lengths behind and tried to teach me to recognise bad technique..... Absolutely loved every Pimms lubricated second :) Nancy  talk  18:58, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, have definitely fallen a little bit in love with The Remenham - found Stewards' a bit up itself if truth be told. With regard to the A. A. Casamajor pics, I've just checked his dates and if the pictures are any where near contemporary with him (or even up to 60 years after his death) then Template:PD-art should cover it as the pictures would have been published/created before 1923. Hope this helps,  Nancy  talk  19:32, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Derbyshire redlink
Hi there Motmit. A Derbyshire cricketer not yet on my list, Atif Sheikh, does not yet have a Wikipedia article, to my knowledge. While Atif Sheikh is currently a bluelink, it is a slowly-expiring prod, and if you were thinking of writing an article about the player, it may be worthwhile waiting the four days until then.

Mostly, however, just a message to let you know I'm still around. Hope all is well. I'll try and peek my head in from time to time. Bobo. 20:16, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Much improved Hamar
Much, much better. Many thanks for the work on that one. MarmadukePercy (talk) 23:20, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Your earlier thanks
My apologies for somewhat curtly ending the discussion on my talk page earlier. I am not able to type very quickly and I find such exchanges difficult to participate in in any productive way. I do sympathize with your dilemma in dealing with a difficult editing situation and will try to look in on the Clark articles from time-to-time. Finally, from the small window of the dispute that I have seen, any indiscretions in your language pale in comparison to those of another.Abby Kelleyite (talk) 01:01, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. No need to apologise - you were absolutely right to curtail a discussion which had gone right off the rails. Regards Motmit (talk) 10:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Sashes Island
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DYK for Sashes Island
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 12:03, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

that Sashes Island was the site of a Roman crossing of the River Thames and a Saxon defensive burh?}}
 * Own-nom 2,600 hits


 * Congrats! Nice article. I wanted to see about your mapmaker, but couldn't find anything really when searching for "hynde" and "mapmaker" (or "cartographer"). I did create Hinde (surname). Do you have any additional information on this person, or do you think it's not worth the effort? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:51, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

War as literature
I was actually hoping to include a section on the war as literature tradition but frankly was too daunted to make a start on it, and didn't want to include the great poets and novelists in a section labeled "popular culture" for fear of trivializing them. Please don't think I'm edit-warring with you. I'm really just trying to find better support for current academics still valuing Clark's work. I think your reorganization of the article has been great and I, too, think the revisionists have gone overboard.Abby Kelleyite (talk) 18:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Jardine
The criticism didn't come in the Cambridge match, but I realise it could be read that way so I've changed it. I'm not too sure which match it was, and won't be able to find out for a day or two. I've also removed the description of the University match as the "Thunderstorm match". While I've no doubt it was known as this, it is not given in the ref I've got. As it is not a well-known fact, it needs a ref. Feel free to put it back if you have a ref for it. Thanks. --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:21, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Scores of MPs

 * Many thanks for the appreciation. Regards Motmit (talk) 08:44, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Alf Pope
Dear Sir,

You might be interested in the following facts about Alf Pope, who I believe is an ancestor of mine. The Find My Past site gives his birthplace as Mansfield, Nottinghamshire. There is also some more information on him at this link:

http://www.cricinfo.com/wisdenalmanack/content/story/228764.html

You need to scroll down quite a bit. Do you happen to know where he is buried? I have a curious, but not morbid, fascination with cemeteries.

Yours faithfully

Leighton Mowbray —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leightonmowbray (talk • contribs) 18:30, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the obituary reference which has been a prompt for me to update the article. Tibshelf was in fact at the time within the Mansfield registration district (and this is one of the reasons for caution in using the Birth registration indices) I am afraid I don't know where or even if he was buried. Regards Motmit (talk) 11:49, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Pending changes/Vote comment
As you commented in the pending closure discussion I am notifying you that the Pending changes/Vote comment is now open and will be for two weeks, discussion as required can continue on the talkpage. Thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 23:41, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Richard Atwood Glass
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:02, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Walter Powell (politician)
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 12:03, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

List of MPs not excluded from the English parliament in 1648
I am most impressed with the Civil War and Interregnum parliamentary lists you have created.

I have left a message on Talk:List of MPs not excluded from the English parliament in 1648 as I would like to discuss names with you.

Also you might like to have a look at WikiProject Military history/Wars of the Three Kingdoms task force which although under the WikiProject Military history project is really about history in general of the period up to the start of the Civil War (including, for example, the Personal Rule of King Charles I), the Wars themselves, the Interregnum, and the first few years of the Restoration and is not just about military history. -- PBS (talk) 23:50, 6 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I have complied a number of lists myself about many of these men (regicides, councils of state, Cromwell's upper house, etc) so I may be able to help you with some alternative spellings. Let me know if there are any in particular you would like to know about any specific ones and I'll try to help out. -- PBS (talk) 10:24, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Derbyshire County Cricket Club in 1890
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 18:02, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Derbyshire County Cricket Club in 1890
I hope I wasn't stepping on your toes with my edits. Feel free to revert this dumb Yank's work; I'm just indulging a compulsion... :) TJSwoboda (talk) 18:13, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No probs. Thanks for your interest.
 * This is a DYK which I didn't submit and I have no idea who did! but thanks too to whoever it was Motmit (talk) 18:21, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Turns out to be User:GeeJo. Thanks

Sir Edmund Buckley MP
You state that Buckley was a Conservative, but the entry for the constituency states that it has never returned a Conservative MP. if you are correct regarding his political affiliation, then the wording on the constituency needs revising. RGCorris (talk) 12:00, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out. I have tightened the link to Debretts which is quite clear that he was Conservative and adds that he was opposed to "lavish and unnecessary expenditure," but in favour of "efficiently maintaining the Army and Navy." Have corrected the constituency article. Motmit (talk) 12:28, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Gervase Bennet
-- Cirt (talk) 12:03, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Sir John Fagg, 1st Baronet
Hello! Your submission of Sir John Fagg, 1st Baronet at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! PM800 (talk) 22:01, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Sir John Fagg, 1st Baronet
The DYK project (nominate) 18:05, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Edward Hammond Bentall
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 * Sorry Coren - the car doesnt even get a mention in the article and I can see no duplication apart from Bentall's name. The only text lifted was from another Wikipedia article and none of that appears to match the web page. Motmit (talk) 17:19, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Edward Robert King-Harman
See Talk:Edward Robert King-Harman for discussion of an edit of yours. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:42, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

List of rivers of England
Thanks for your prompt attention to the Thames catchment - I was feeling a little guilty about leaving that and the Mersey catchments in a bit of a mess but eventually though 'dammit, let's put it up there and someone who knows the patch better than I do can deal with it' - and you have! So thanks! Geopersona (talk) 20:50, 13 December 2010 (UTC)