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Are youthere Dante? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.58.205 (talk) 20:19, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

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Preamble
How did Morgan overrule Texas v. White? BTW, don't put pairs of brackets around a word, phrase, or name unless it's to link to a Wikipedia article. --SMP0328. (talk) 05:45, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not necessarily proscribed. It is fine to create redlinks for something that ought to be an article. bd2412  T 06:17, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

the us consitution is to unite part of the country to make one union and to make us togather. raul —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.58.205 (talk) 20:02, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Dante what does this n site say what the preamble is-Raul —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.58.205 (talk) 20:13, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Article One Comment
It's been... six days. Give it another day? At the very least, we'll see a reaction from the community. I originally did agree with you, I just wanted to bring it up with the Wikipedia community, but it appears no one has any objections they are willing to voice. NuclearWarfare (talk) 01:11, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant to put this on your Discussion page. And also, I suppose it is fine to delete now. No one put up any objections. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NuclearWarfare (talk • contribs) 21:03, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Multiple Edits
Instead of making multiple edits to an article, have you considered going over the article and then making all of your edits in one shot? That would seem to be a time saver. --SMP0328. (talk) 22:15, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

J.B. Holmes
I was following WP:NCP that required a space after periods but that has disappeared (1-28-08) and there is quite a discussion on what the standard should or should not be - see Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (people). I agree the "no space" is what is used by the PGA Tour and "looks" better too.Tewapack (talk) 05:50, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hans & the People
Hans v. Louisiana was talking about the sovereign immunity of the States. So in that quoted passage it could be speaking of the States. The Court said:

That decision was made in the case of Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 Dall. 419, and created such a shock of surprise throughout the country that, at the first meeting of congress thereafter, the eleventh amendment to the constitution was almost unanimously proposed, and was in due course adopted by the legislatures of the states. This amendment, expressing the will of the ultimate sovereignty of the whole country, superior to all legislatures and all courts, actually reversed the decision of the supreme court.

The People had no direct say in the adoption of the Eleventh Amendment. The States were outraged by the Chisholm decision and so demanded that the Constitution be amended to overrule it. So the quoted material could be referring to the States alone. It's also reasonable to read the quoted material could be referring to the People and the State Legislatures collectively. The quoted material could be referring to the People alone, but it doesn't have to mean that. That's why I'm again making the edit you reverted. --SMP0328. (talk) 19:42, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree that "We the People" are the ultimate sovereigns of this land, but the People had no say in the adoption of the Eleventh Amendment. The States advocated for such an amendment. If the Hans court was referring to the People, then such a reference was in error. It's also possible that the Hans court was referring to the State Legislatures' role within Article V, which is superior to any single legislature. I'm not saying that the Hans court wasn't referring to the People; only that it may have been referring to something else. So putting "[i.e. the people]" in that footnote is a POV, because it's an interpretation of quoted material that is subject to alternate and reasonable interpretations. --SMP0328. (talk) 20:19, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You are proving my point. Your desire to include "[i.e. the people]" is based on your POV of what the Hans court meant. If it meant that, why didn't it simply say "the people"? The Court could have meant the Constitution (certainly superior to any legislature), specifically Article V. You are wrong when you claim that the Hans court could only have been referring to "the people." --SMP0328. (talk) 21:00, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Field Size in Golf Tournament Infobox?
I see you removed the changes I made to the PGA Tour home page regarding the field size of the event. No problem, I'm new to Wiki and see there is a Golf Project monitoring these pages. I also created an account for myself so I have my own Talk page now (to which you can post your answer if you want). If there is a better way to communicate user to user, let me know...

What do you think of modifying the Golf Tournament Infobox to include a Field Size field say under the Purse field? I agree, better to put that on each tournament's page vs. on the tour "home" page where I had put it (and later removed).

My motivation is that I have a friend who is on the PGA Tour and recently got "reshuffled" down on the list of Nationwide Tour and Q-School grads. It appears he'll only have a shot at getting into 156+ man events from this point forward, so I wanted to see which events had a field that size. I could not find a list of PGA Tour events that included the field size, even the individual event web pages seemed not to let you know, they said you had to contact the tournament organizer! Good grief!

So, Wiki came to mind since I use it for other things. If can't find the info, make it yourself! LOL

My intent is after each event starts I'll just go to pgatour.com and check the leader board during the tournament to see exactly how many people are in the tournament. Normally, it's around 120 for an invitational, 132 for a small field regular event, 144 for a mid-sized regular event, and 156 for a large sized regular event. I saw the AT&T at Pebble had 180 players due to the number of courses they played.

--Kentino (talk) 00:55, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Secession & Dissolution
Secession can be a form of dissolution. In the case of secession, the dissolution would be caused by the separating state. The Southern States that seceded, or attempted to secede, intended to dissolve the union between them and the remaining states. --SMP0328. (talk) 03:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure if I am the one who put in the word "dissolution." Anyway, the Supreme Court, in Texas v. White, used the word "indissoluble" and so the word "dissolution" seems appropriate. --SMP0328. (talk) 03:38, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Edit by 68.227.216.191
The above anon has made a minor edit to the article. I think that edit should not be reverted. Anons that make good faith edits that don't make an article less accurate, should not be left with the impression that they are not welcome. This anon's edit should be left in place, because it does not undermine the quality of the article and because the anon would hopefully then feel that his efforts at making good faith contributions to Wikipedia are welcome. --SMP0328. (talk) 23:05, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Obviously, if any edit lessens the quality of the article, that edit should be reverted. I have no objection to changing it back later. My point is simply that an anon who makes an edit that doesn't lessen the quality of the article, shouldn't have that edit reverted as if it were vandalism. Such anons should be encouraged to contribute, not discouraged as if they are unwelcome intruders. --SMP0328. (talk) 23:46, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

What's with the vandalism?
The answer is that, unfortunately, there is never a low supply of idiots. --SMP0328. (talk) 03:07, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I thought about what you said. My guess is that at least of some of those vandals are anti-American and see vandalizing the Preamble article as a way (stupidity notwithstanding) to express how they feel. --SMP0328. (talk) 19:32, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Probably a combination of both. --SMP0328. (talk) 20:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

reflist problem
I've noticed that footnotes no longer function correctly. If you hover over a footnote in an article, instead of seeing the text of the footnote, you see the Introduction of that article. This is what happens when there's no reference section, but now is happening even if there is one. It even happens at the Preamble to the United States Constitution article. I'm wondering if you've had the same problem. --SMP0328. (talk) 00:08, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

On the George W. Bush article, which has over 200 footnotes, this problem is a big annoyance. --SMP0328. (talk) 00:47, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Preamble cite check
Adding a footnote that is linked to an example having an alternative view of the Preamble would be a way to back up that sentence. --SMP0328. (talk) 17:50, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I changed the word "are" to "may be" in the sentence we are discussing. Now the sentence only refers to the possibility of alternative viewpoints about the Preamble, instead of claiming that such viewpoints exist. This makes it a hedge, rather than a statement of fact. With this change, I also removed the cite tag. --SMP0328. (talk) 18:57, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: NHL team season template
I could add such information to the template easily, however, the NHL does not recognize either the regular season conference champion, nor the old regular season division champion between 1981-1993. The template currently has banners only for accomplishments that the NHL itself recognizes with banners. Resolute 00:31, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Those are banners the Red Wings themselves hung. They aren't NHL awarded banners, and I don't know of any other team that does that. Resolute 00:58, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * What a team hangs is up to their discretion. But the Stanley Cup, President's Trophy and Conference titles are recognized by the league via trophies as well.  The league also recognizes division champions.  For regular season now, but for the playoffs in the 80s/early 90s.  I don't really see the point in cluttering the articles with minor things that teams themselves recognize that the rest of the league doesn't.  Should I add a line in the template for the "thank you fans" banner the Flames hung, or the retiring of the #1 by Minnesota for their fans? Resolute 01:29, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Each team designs its own banner, so there is no difficulty at all in Detroit making up banners for regular season finishes that are identical to other ones. As I said, three of the four are recognized via trophies (which regular season conference championships are not), leaving the Division title as the only real question.  I can tell you that Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver all display banners in the format I mention - playoff division champions < 1994, and regular season division champions after 1994.  The timing of this coincides with the changes in the NHL's playoff format.  Before 1981, it was a 1-16 format, and after 1994, it's been conference play, so the Division title cannot be decided in the playoffs.  In the time between, the first two rounds were divisional playoffs. Resolute 02:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

NHL Bracket
Hello MrArticleOne! That seems like a fairly decent idea. I am working on a few other things here and there on Wikipedia and in my real life, so I will not be able to work on creating a new bracket design, but a redesign definitely has been on my mind. I am looking at producing something more analogous to how the series summary tables have come out. I'm looking to create something that is smoother and lacks the really boxy feel that the current format does. Look forward to something in a month or so. --Sukh17 T • C  • E 05:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

You asked for it -- go check out the refined template at Template_talk:NHLBracket

Standings for teams with different games played
Thank you for your efforts on editing 2008 IIHF World Championship article. Can you explain why SUI is free of the tie-breaker (even having played only 4 games, that is one game less, before game 43), and why it is placed above SWE and CZE? Svmich (talk) 02:12, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, now I see. Thanks. Svmich (talk) 02:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Response
. Your image also says they won in 1933-34, which is incorrect. If you'll check the article for that season as well as NHL.com you will see that the Leafs were the leaders that season. -- Scorpion0422 20:22, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If you zoom in on the image, you can clearly make out 34 as the last number, so one would have to assume it means 1933-34. According to multiple sources, the Red Wings did not win the league that year. -- Scorpion0422 21:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Aloha...
I don't know if ellipses with spaces are proper. I won't revert, but I think you should note Manual of Style. Spaced periods are strongly discouraged. I am fine as it is, and it doesn't seem like many other people have a large interest in the Preamble article, but I thought you should know. Mahalo. --Ali'i 20:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Editing Comment and Article 3 Expansion
Don't forget to add in an edit summary when you edit ;). Also, do you feel that Article 3 needs more expansion? I was thinking of trying to bring it up to featured article status and I was thinking of trying to update it. NuclearWarfare (talk) 14:10, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

MLB Playoff Bracket
Try using the (small)(/small) code, but with the greater than/lesser that at each end of "small" instead of the parenthesis. NoseNuggets (talk) 11:39 PM US EDT Oct 1 2008.

NBA 1950
I don't think I'll bother doing something that's only good for one year. The work I did for the NFL playoffs (and kept general enough it could also be used for Arena league and others with similar seeding rules) was worth the effort since it can be re-used so many times. If you have something that's used for more than one article, let me know and I might try something for it. The Monster (talk) 18:15, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

NHL Banners
Please post submissions in this area. Thanks MrArticleOne (talk) 04:41, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, Calgary has been brought up many times, and this is what is in the rafters at the Saddledome:
 * 1985-86 Smythe Division Champions
 * 1985-86 Campbell Conference Champions
 * 1987-88 President's Trophy Winners
 * 1988-89 President's Trophy Winners
 * 1988-89 Smythe Division Champions
 * 1988-89 Campbell Conference Champions
 * 1988-89 Stanley Cup Champions
 * 1993-94 Pacific Division Champions
 * 1994-95 Pacific Division Champions
 * 2003-04 Western Conference Champions
 * 2005-06 Northwest Division Champions
 * 9 Lanny McDonald
 * 30 Mike Vernon
 * There used to be a banner representing the Fans (#1 - 2000) following a season ticket drive in 2000, but that has since been removed
 * The Calgary Hitmen have six banners of their own, soon to be at least eight, and there are two for the Calgary Roughnecks.

Edmonton follows the same patterns. They have banners for each Stanley Cup winner, for each Campbell/Western Conference championship, for each President's Trophy (1986 and 1987 as it was not awarded before that), and for each Smythe Division playoff championship. And, of course, all of their retired numbers. They do not have any WHA banners, and in a fit of ridiculousness, they hung Edmonton Oil Kings memorial Cup banners for 1963 and 1966 using the new team's logo. Trust Edmonton to try and invent history for an expansion team. Resolute 20:06, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The Flames and Oilers, along with many other teams, viewed the divisional playoff as the division championship, not the regular season finish. Thus, Edmonton does not hang a 1985-86 Smythe Division banner, but they do for 1989-90, while the Flames do not hang one for 87-88 or 89-90.  In fact, if you download and view the Flames media guide, you would see in the history section that the team does not even acknowledge finishing first in the division during that era.  It only mentions winning the Smythe Division playoff championship in 1986 and 1989, then the regular season titles following 1993 realignment. Resolute 21:15, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

The Preamble
I have made a proposal, your thoughts on it would be appreciated. The proposal is here. Thanks, Terrillja  talk  18:54, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Is the Preamble GA worthy?
Do you believe the Preamble to the United States Constitution is a good article? If so, should we try to have that article awarded GA status? SMP0328. (talk) 02:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

HSBC Champions
I admit that the HSBC Champions is an odd duck of a tournament as far as the PGA Tour is concerned but I think it deserves inclusion on the listed schedule (which is "main events" not "official events"). Yes it's listed as a "featured event" on the tour's official schedule, but so is the Presidents Cup which is included on the table. The World Cup could easily be added or not. Whether or not the HSBC becomes a full-fledged PGA Tour event next year is undetermined as far as I know. My vote is to keep it in the table with the note I added.Tewapack (talk) 16:15, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

IP stalker
Howdy Mr. Article. IP: 166.205.133.83, has made previous appearances as 166.205.4.61 & 166.205.7.162 & 166.205.135.183. GoodDay (talk) 19:53, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Also an interesting 'threat' on my talkpage (that I've since reverted). GoodDay (talk) 20:33, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Don't be mad...
because I got it first!

Talk:Article One of the United States Constitution/GA1
You look like you keep a watch on this article page. Issues have been identified at the GA review that you might be able to help address. Take a look if it is in your areas of expertise. Cheers, hamiltonstone (talk) 23:34, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Re:Bracket
I thought that might have been the case but I just went for it anyway. Thanks for making that clear for me. Tampabay721 (talk) 18:48, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I just did some stuff in my sandbox. I hope that's what you're looking for. If it is, I'm hoping that it would work with virtually the same code as 4RoundBracket-Byes code, just with a little extra to include the ability to edit information in the 3rd place/bronze medal game. Tampabay721 (talk) 19:39, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I got it semi protected. We still need to watch 2009-10 NHL season though. Maybe the bracket should be a semiprotected template. ccwaters (talk) 23:38, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Re:FIBA
Hey, yeah i made a mistake. Fixed it, thanks for notifying. Kante4 (talk) 15:06, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Ongoing discussion regarding Preamble article
Someone has suggested changes to the Preamble article. I figured you should be given a chance to be part of the discussion. SMP0328. (talk) 05:14, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up, I'll get to that later tonight. MrArticleOne (talk) 21:51, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

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IIHF
Hey, Russia and Slovakia will advance too, Germany played both already and we know that they have goals 6:3 and 6 points. If someone from Group D finishes with higher GD we don´t know but that can be changed later on... Kante4 (talk) 20:35, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * What? Their record IS finished for Group E, it will not change. Kante4 (talk) 20:41, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Don´t see why not. Their record won´t change so we can add them. It´s the same when a team finishes as E1 before the last day, so we can add them to the bracket as E1. Kante4 (talk) 20:43, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * "Every team kept the points from preliminary round matches against teams who also advanced" says the article, should not be that hard for editors to not edit that table after their game. Kante4 (talk) 20:46, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure, it can happen. But the way i did it tonight was done last year too, adding something when it´s a fact. Kante4 (talk) 20:49, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah was a typo, thanks for fixing. Kante4 (talk) 20:28, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it´s the goal difference, Russia -2, USA -4? Kante4 (talk) 16:58, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Forget that. For the tournament USA has +-0, Russia has -1 if i made it right quickly. Kante4 (talk) 17:00, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought USA were 7th, when they and Russia are eliminated? Kante4 (talk) 19:41, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

PSU 2011
Thanks for your message about Penn State, went ahead and fixed the B10 Leaders division standings

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Organization of counties
If you indeed read them, you would note that all of the Michigan articles on counties include the set off date, if it differs from the organization date. I put them there, so I know. You can start with Alcona County, first of the 83, and proceed from there. See and compare, List of Michigan county name etymologies, List of Michigan counties, and List of abolished U.S. counties. It is a separate noted historical event, and whether you consider it to be important is hardly the test. That the Clark Historical Library makes the distinction suggests it has consequences. Best regards. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 14:17, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

iihf standings
Frankly I am embarrassed I got involved at all. It is trivial, and it probably pissed off Kante as he was trying to edit game details by causing edit conflicts. The IIHF frequently contradicts itself, particularly writer Andrew Podnieks used to screw up royally with qualifying scenarios. The format page (as in the IIHF Sport and Regulations pg 20) indicates the tie-breaking rules, it states what to do if two teams are equal on points, which is what the current standings indicate. It doesn't state how it should be handled when the standings are incomplete, so it is open to interpretation I suppose. You have to decide whether the lack of direction is an indication that logic should be used, and the current webmaster of the IIHf has got it wrong, or whether the words of the format are to be followed as written even when they don't appear to be for partial results. Either way, you won't catch me behaving like that again.18abruce (talk) 00:35, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

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League tiebreakers do not apply except for 1st place
Then what are you using to put Illinois ahead of Minnesota? And why does ESPN show Minnesota followed by Illinois in the standings? Akatheflake (talk) 08:35, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I get that that's the way you've always done it, but why? I've never seen anything that states head-to-head results do not apply for teams not in first place. In the NFL playoffs, the very first tie-breaker used is head-to-head results, even if it is for the last wild-card spot. Why is it any different in NCAA? Akatheflake (talk) 21:34, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Because in the NFL, they need to break ties out to 6th place to determine those wild cards and how they are seeded. Those tiebreakers don't apply after that, though -- they have a separate process they use to break ties for draft order, for example. And in college football, the only tie that needs to be broken is a tie for 1st place to determine who plays in the league title game. If you read the applicable tiebreakers, it is crystal clear they only apply to 1st place by their own terms. Look at the 3rd one, for example: "The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5, 6, and 7)." See how it takes for granted that the next one after the tied teams is 4th? That's because the tiebreaker isn't intended to break a tie for 4th place. MrArticleOne (talk) 04:30, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

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