User talk:MrFlyingPies23

August 2023
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Australian Football League. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted. Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. 4TheWynne  (talk  •  contribs)  07:57, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
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 * I'm sorry I added the wrong text FlagPies23 (talk) 07:58, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Collingwood Football Club, you may be blocked from editing. 4TheWynne  (talk  •  contribs)  16:46, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on User talk:4TheWynne. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. —C.Fred (talk) 21:11, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Stop I don't like it
Stop insulting me thats not allowed. They are not disruptive edits. Plus you can't talk to an under 18 like this FlagPies23 (talk) 21:16, 29 August 2023 (UTC)


 * All of the messages other than this one have been standard, templated messages; there have hardly been insults.
 * As for the claim your edits were not disruptive...some of them have been. A cursory review shows a number of grammar errors and some introduction of redundant information, as well as breaking links and deleting relevant information.
 * Wikipedia is a collaborative environment. If you are unable to engage in civil interaction with fellow editors, your editing privileges can be revoked by your account being blocked. —C.Fred (talk) 21:20, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I broke a link because I didn't code it right or I think "wikilink" it right. If I knew how to undo an edit this wouldn't happen. I'm telling you now I swear I did nothing disruptive on Collingwood Football Club. I shouldn't be near a ban FlagPies23 (talk) 21:24, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The article title is Colliwobbles; there was no need to have changed that. —C.Fred (talk) 21:27, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * can you leave me alone I'm upset 😭😭. I'm not editing ANYMORE OK FlagPies23 (talk) 21:28, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you tell me exactly why I can't edit on Collingwood Football Club?😭
 * The 2022 season has not been updated with the Copeland Trophy winner. Which was Jack Crisp. And another nickname for Collingwood is the Maggie's. Why can I not change that? It doesn't seem disruptive to me. FlagPies23 (talk) 21:31, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Were it just the Copeland Trophy winner, it might only have been tagged as needing a source. The Maggies nickname, not disruptive. But looking at the whole of this edit, it's the changes to the 1959–89: "Colliwobbles" section and breaking the template linking to Colliwobbles that is what is the clear disruption. —C.Fred (talk) 02:22, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * oh ok FlagPies23 (talk) 05:52, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Please read Nos. 18 and 23 at Wikipedia:ANI advice it will save you a lot of grief. If you disagree with 18 and 23, then Wikipedia is not for you. -- Toddy1 (talk) 09:32, 30 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I agree? FlagPies23 (talk) 09:42, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Jack Sinclair (footballer) edits were spot on
Just a little message to let you know that your edits today to Jack Sinclair (footballer) were on the money. The (alleged) awards added to the article were uncited, and it is proper to remove information that is not verifiable via reliable sources.

Not that editors are on a points system, but six points to you if we had one. 😁 —C.Fred (talk) 11:20, 30 August 2023 (UTC)


 * thanks dude! FlagPies23 (talk) 11:24, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Scott Pendlebury edit was not
What was this edit supposed to achieve? It's essentially just repeating that Pendlebury played in a premiership. 4TheWynne  (talk  •  contribs)  09:45, 31 August 2023 (UTC)


 * It's saying that he won the premiership. Before I added that it only said that he PLAYED in the 2010 grand final. FlagPies23 (talk) 09:46, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Why did you have to revert my edit 😭😭 FlagPies23 (talk) 09:48, 31 August 2023 (UTC)


 * No it didn't. You're confusing premiership with grand final... it didn't say "grand final player", it said "premiership player", meaning he played in a premiership. 4TheWynne   (talk  •  contribs)  14:26, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Reply to me if you think I'm vandalising.
Add a topic or reply here if you need to remove an edit I made on the collingwood football club..FlagPies23 (talk) 21:56, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

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October 2023
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 * not again. FlagPies23 (talk) 10:28, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * bruh. The guy I reverted has no fucking idea FlagPies23 (talk) 10:28, 25 October 2023 (UTC)


 * What are you on about? The editor you reverted was correct... 4TheWynne   (talk  •  contribs)  16:05, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

User page
Please do not, under any circumstances, ever create a user page for another user again as you did at my user page - which I have opted to have deleted in the past. This is completely out of order and a totally unacceptable thing to do on Wikipedia. It's my user page, it's my choice. Blue Square Thing (talk) 07:16, 28 October 2023 (UTC)


 * k Karen can I have a burger? I ALSO LOVE BLUE SQUARES!!! 🟦 FlagPies23 (talk) 07:18, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

November 2023
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at 2023–24 AFL Women's player movement period. 4TheWynne  (talk  •  contribs)  05:00, 6 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @4TheWynnehi. The retirement date is 3 November not 2 November. At least that's what I'm seeing. FlagPies23 (talk) 05:01, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * how to I know if it's non free content. And if it is how do I add it? FlagPies23 (talk) 06:41, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * If nobody explicitly stated that it's free, then it's safe to assume that it isn't. From what I can tell, this image is was taken by Luis Ascui for News Corp Australia. --  Cosmic6811  🍁 ( T ·  C ) 07:29, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * got it. I checked fox sports in. It is legal in United states and is not copyright (restricted) FlagPies23 (talk) 07:29, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Teahouse
Hello,

Can I kindly suggest that you not sign up to be a Teahouse host? I appreciate your desire to help others around here but I think you would benefit from gaining more familiarity with our policies and guidelines before becoming a host, as you are still a pretty new editor. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 00:46, 8 November 2023 (UTC)


 * What happens if I say no. MrFlyingPies23 (talk) 00:47, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You can do what you want, but if you continue to give bad advice like you did at Teahouse, you could get sanctioned by an admin. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 01:36, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I will continue to help my fellow editors. Unless you really want me to step down. MrFlyingPies23 (talk) 01:37, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Reason for reverting, please?
May I ask why you reverted this edit of mine? Surely it was not solely because I did not provide an edit summary, but I cannot see any issue with the edit itself that would warrant reversion. Thanks. Mjaðveig (talk) 08:57, 9 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I provided why on your talk page. MrFlyingPies23 (talk) 09:05, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Edits with so edit summaries have to be reverted as they can be confusing to new editors. MrFlyingPies23 (talk) 09:06, 9 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I have replied on my talk page and will not go into detail here, but for the record let me say that your last claim is patently untrue. Mjaðveig (talk) 09:09, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Umm It's not. Read Help:Edit summary. Thank you. MrFlyingPies23 (talk) 09:14, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * We get a lot of edits that introduce subtle vandalism. Generally they do not have edit summaries, or (if they do) the edit summaries do not explain the edit properly.  So if you make an edit that is not easy to understand from the diff, and you choose not to provide an understandable reason for it in the edit summary, then it is your own fault if your edit gets reverted.


 * I was able to understand Mjaðveig's edit by looking at a before and after on different windows at the same time. But I could not understand it from the diff.  In my opinion, MrFlyingPies23 was right to insist on an edit summary. -- Toddy1 (talk) 09:19, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Reverting edits with no summary
Although it is helpful when editors use edit summaries, you should not revert their edits merely because they did not provide a summary. If the edit itself has no problems, you should leave it as it is. If the lack of a summary is a real problem, just give the editor a friendly reminder on their talk page rather than reverting. – Teratix ₵ 04:13, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Ok. Thanks. I thought you meant don't revert and don't give a friendly reminder. We should always provide an edit summary when editing. Maybe not with minor edits, that wasn't minor. I get what your saying. Thanks for the advice. * MrFlyingPies23 *   (Talk?)  | (*Contrib*) 04:15, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I do mean don't revert. You should not revert edits for the fact they don't have summaries. Many edits have a purpose obvious enough not to need summaries. Even when an edit summary would be helpful, you should not reflexively revert the edit because it doesn't have one. – Teratix ₵ 04:19, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * that edit needed a summary. I couldn't be blocked from editing if I reverted a major edit with no summary would I? Thank You. * MrFlyingPies23 *   (Talk?)  | (*Contrib*) 04:21, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, you could be blocked from editing if you continue to revert edits merely because they don't have summaries. You need to understand reverts tend to come across as hostile and should only be used when necessary. Indiscriminate reverts are a form of disruptive editing. – Teratix ₵ 04:23, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Then why does Wikipedia have this page: H:FIESNever says anything about being blocked from editing if you revert a good faith edit with no summary. It also says nothing about it's "not allowed" or any form of disruptive editing. King Regards, * MrFlyingPies23 *   (Talk?)  | (*Contrib*) 04:28, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * "Editors should not revert an otherwise good edit because of a missing or confusing edit summary" Fairly concise, IMO Local Potentate (talk) 07:44, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You also are allowed to revert an edit with no edit summary. I don't see why we are even discussing this? I still don't get the point. Kind Regards. * MrFlyingPies23 *   (Talk?)  | (*Contrib*) 04:22, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

In some circumstances it is right to revert an edit (in part) because it is no edit summary. But if you go around reverting all edits without an edit summary you will get blocked. Do you know about rollback? This is an anti-vandalism tool used by experienced editors. The edit history has Tag: Rollback. Standard rollback does not include the option to provide a custom edit summary. You are going to be very unpopular if you revert rollback just because there is no edit summary. -- Toddy1 (talk) 13:15, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The edit discussed at #Reason for reverting, please? was difficult to understand without an edit summary. So saying that it needed an edit summary was sensible.

Slowing down a bit
Please consider not using semi-automated tools for reversion until you have spent a bit more time here and have a better understanding of the norms and courtesies around reversion. That also applies to things like applying for advanced permissions and becoming a Teahouse host (as Elli mentioned). – Teratix ₵ 04:51, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I think I've learnt my lesson. I think you'd be being a bit harsh if you would want me to stop using RedWarn. I'm not abusing it I just did not know about not reverting edit summaries. Please let me use them. A bit harsh, Kind Regards, MrFlyingPies23   (?Talk?)  | (*Contrib*) 04:54, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not an administrator, so it's not up to me whether you keep using RedWarn or not. I'm offering you advice in my capacity as an experienced editor who was in a reasonably similar position to you five years ago. Because I didn't fully understand how Wikipedia worked back then, I made all sorts of mistakes when I was interacting with other editors. It takes a little time to know what's going on, and there's more to it than what's "allowed" or "not allowed". The way I improved as an editor was by sticking to areas where I was competent, and that's still what I do today.
 * If someone doesn't fully know what they're doing, semi-automated reversion tools can let them do a lot of damage very fast. They can wrongly revert edits that improve the article and discourage new editors from continuing to contribute. That is why I suggest not using these until you have a better understanding of how Wikipedia works. If you continue what you're doing at the moment, it's likely you will continue to make mistakes and eventually reach a point where administrators will step in – not because you have bad intentions, but because you might be hurting other editors when you don't fully understand what you're doing.
 * It's alright to make mistakes, but if you make a lot of mistakes in a short period of time that hurt other editors, and continue to do so despite advice from other editors, then it's a problem. – Teratix ₵ 05:18, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't know what to do. The only boo boo I made was reverting an edit summary. I haven't been disruptive or abusing the RedWarn. Of I get called up by another fellow editor I probably will uninstall the automated editing tools. Right now I'm going to continue and find what I'm good at. Thanks for your advice, MrFlyingPies23   (?Talk?)  | (*Contrib*) 05:21, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Please do uninstall the automated editing tools. User warning templates are not a great way to engage with experienced editors. MRSC (talk) 09:14, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * you didn't provide an edit summary. Kind regards, 🏴 MrFlyingPies23  ✉ (✍)🏳️ 09:52, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You said above, If I get called up by another fellow editor I probably will uninstall the automated editing tools. Alright, then. Please uninstall RedWarn and any other automated tools, please avoid reverting constructive edits even those without edit summaries, and please talk to people before reverting. Thank you kindly, Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 14:16, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I learnt a couple of days ago not to revert an edit with no edit summary. @MRSC did not provide an edit summary, as it says it's a template for more experienced users. Is it just because he/she knows all the guidelines and polices she can not provide an edit summary for semi-major edits? Kind regards, 🏴 MrFlyingPies23 ✉ (✍)🏳️ 21:09, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Trouted
You have been trouted for: YOUR REASON HERE  MrFlyingPies23 ✉ (✍) 03:07, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

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December 2023
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 * Remove this.  MrFlyingPies23 ✉ (✍) 23:36, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * This edit was essentially copy and paste. (copyvio report) ––– GMH Melbourne (talk) 00:14, 6 December 2023 (UTC)