User talk:MrX/Archive/April-June 2017

Speedy deletion nomination of Sons of Thundr (Faith Baptist Church)


A tag has been placed on Sons of Thundr (Faith Baptist Church) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. – S. Rich (talk) 04:10, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Sons of Thundr (Faith Baptist Church) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Sons of Thundr (Faith Baptist Church) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Sons of Thundr (Faith Baptist Church) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. TomStar81 (Talk) 05:48, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

You're too experienced
You're too experienced to be baited into an elaborate defense of what's already been firmly established as consensus text to reflect mainstream views on the Russian interference article. SPECIFICO talk  21:02, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, no kidding. What sources are these people actually looking at? - MrX 21:05, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Dangerous book cover.jpg
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Speedy deletion nomination of Audiohub.gr
Hello MrX

I am trying to understand a bit more about rules and exceptions, could you please provide your experienced feedback on this matter? Panagiotis Karavitis (talk) 15:56, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure. The applicable guideline is WP:WEB, In short, for material published on the web to have its own article in Wikipedia, it should be notable and of historical significance. Articles in reliable sources (newspapers, magazines, published books, news web sites) are needed to show that it is notable and historically significant. Press releases and routine coverage do not count.- MrX 16:12, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Naagin (Geo Kahani)
Hi MrX - You moved the Naagin (Geo Kahani) article as I was prodding it - I received no edit conflict warning, so I have ended up as the article creator and prodder (!!) Can you re-move it without leaving a redirect, or do I need to use AFD? - Arjayay (talk) 11:46, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi . I can't remove it myself, but I've nominated it for WP:CSD.- MrX 11:54, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I was about to blank it and speedy it G7 - but didn't want another edit-conflict - I'm not sure what extra rights "extended mover" and "file-mover" gives you. - Arjayay (talk) 12:01, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

recent edits on Natural Progression Series, Super Strong Style 16, Progress World Cup, NGW Undisputed Championship, NGW Tag Team Championship, NGW GenX Championship
Im the TheBuilder456 do you have a problem with the articles that i created Natural Progression Series, Super Strong Style 16, Progress World Cup, NGW Undisputed Championship, NGW Tag Team Championship, NGW GenX Championship because you want to delete them so can you delete the discussion please if the articles have a problem why you don´t improve it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBuilder456 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi . I nominated your articles for deletion is because the subjects of the articles do not seem to meet our inclusion guidelines. Our goal is to include articles about subjects that are already notable. The information that I placed on your user page provides some additional information about our policies and content guidelines, as well as advice on creating your first article. May I ask, are you being paid to write these articles? If so, you should be aware of our conflict of interest guidelines and our policy that requires you disclose any paid editing. See WP:PAY for more information.- MrX 20:44, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Articles
Actually No, I'm not being paid, I'm making out of love this articles, and my objective here in Wikipedia is to make it great in British Wrestling and so everything I put here on Wikipedia are subjects that I think it really matters, and the NGW articles well they are notable (in opinion), including the PROGRESS' tournament articles because PROGRESS is a very notable promotion in the UK. So that's why I'm making those articles.

TheBuilder456 (talk) 11:30, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

1RR broken on 2017 Jerusalem Light Rail stabbing
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2017_Jerusalem_Light_Rail_stabbing&diff=776955352&oldid=776955190 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2017_Jerusalem_Light_Rail_stabbing&diff=776954923&oldid=776954622 Please self revert.--Shrike (talk) 13:18, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Done.- MrX 13:36, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Alert
I was not sure if you was alerted if yes then my apologies.--Shrike (talk) 13:28, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I know, but thanks for making it official.- MrX 13:29, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Marisha Wallace
I had previously declined an A7 speedy on Marisha Wallace. I believe that the statements in the article constitute a Credible Claim of Significance. I have therefore reverted your tagging. Please take this to AfD if you think it should be deleted (and I freely admit that as it stands it does not establish notability). DES (talk) 02:11, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
 * OK. I didn't see the previous A7 decline. Thanks for letting me know.- MrX 02:13, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Question
Hi! I am completely new to Wikipedia and I just got a notification that the page I made, Findo, Inc., was deleted. I was wondering if there is any way you could send me the content of that page (because I lost the copy of it) and help me edit it in a way I could publish it in Wiki, I didn't mean to make it sound promotional!

Sorry! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marina chilingaryan (talk • contribs) 22:38, 27 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi . I only nominated the article. It was deleted by . You can ask him for a WP:REFUND here.- MrX 23:06, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

survey
Thanks for commenting on DT regarding the survey. It sounds like you support B4. If you've the time, and inclination, can you please ivote here? I don't know if your comment at the bottom of the thread will count. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 20:53, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * OK.- MrX 20:59, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Big Baller Brand
Thank you for your help to improve Big Baller Brand! --BigCheese41 (talk) 19:19, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome !- MrX 19:35, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Talkback
Request for you to revisit the discussion, per sources presented therein. North America1000 03:30, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Sandy Dian
Hello MrX. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Sandy Dian, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: multiple credible claims of significance in prior revisions (speedy deletion requires all revisions to meet the criteria). Thank you.  So Why  12:29, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I know that all revisions are considered in speedy deletion nominations. I just didn't find any of the subject's career accomplishments to be significant. I sent the article to AfD.- MrX 14:13, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You do realize that per WP:MUSICBIO #10 creating a musical piece that is used for a notable TV show or a notable film makes a subject even notable? I fail to understand why you think significance is not indicated when claims of notability exist. Care to elaborate? Regards  So Why  16:28, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * That's a rather weak notability criteria, and I have no knowledge of whether the listed television programs are notable or not. I also searched for his name and nick name before nominating the article for speed deletion.- MrX 17:01, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

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Add stalking now
You've never edited the Scott Pruitt article in your entire editing history, yet you revert my edit today after only a few minutes after I made it. (WP:Wiki-stalking much? Feelings hurt at my Talk? Why don't you work out your issues some other way?) --IHTS (talk) 20:01, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, I hardly think so. You are far too insignificant for me to want to stalk. Minimal effort on your part would have revealed that I edited the talk page four months before you ever touched the article, and it has been on my watchlist since. Now kindly go away, I'm trying to build an encyclopedia with people who want to work together toward that goal.- MrX 20:12, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

David A Reiss
It appears that you notified the author that you were tagging this article for WP:A7 but didn't actually tag it. What happened? Robert McClenon (talk) 18:44, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * It was deleted and recently recreated.- MrX 18:48, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh. So the author is persistent.  Robert McClenon (talk) 18:51, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh yes. Self-promoters don't give up easily.- MrX 19:03, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Creation protected. (I see he'll be seventeen on Wednesday.) Bishonen &#124; talk 08:05, 15 May 2017 (UTC).
 * Thank you, .11:39, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Comey
Greetings MrX...my badd on the edit. I meant to add and not delete but I was interupted by my staffy terrier who demanded dinner lol. Cheers for your message. Xxx

Kookster66 (talk) 07:54, 15 May 2017 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks for letting me know .- MrX 11:41, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Reverted one version too far?
Greetings MrX! With this revert you restored the longstanding lead sentence which had recently been altered by two editors, but you also cancelled one of my two earlier edits in an unrelated section, namely the change from "a hacker persona" to "an online persona" about Guccifer 2.0. Was this intentional? If that was a mistake, please restore "an online persona". If that was intentional, please explain your rationale on the talk page. Many thanks! — JFG talk 16:31, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was intentional but I should have included an edit summary. The reason I reverted that edit was because the source says "hacker persona", so I thought that was good compromise between the original wording (notorious hacker) and your wording (an online persona ), which vastly understates his/her/their role.- MrX 16:42, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I think MrX's change was important and in general it's important not to make little tweaks that diverge from or change the meaning of the statements in the cited source. SPECIFICO  talk  16:53, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Makes sense; thanks for your reply. — JFG talk 13:20, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Nice
You make good edits you inspired me to be an editor and make an account :D :) Onefudge (talk) 19:31, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

How can I improve Bitpit article to avoid cancellation?
Writing the article, I tried to be as honest and fair as possible. I think it is evident that I expressed no personal idea or any advertising intent, just a short description and a list of verifiable features of the library. I also hope in users modification of the article and that users will try to improve the article even with strong critics. If there is a way to modify the article in a way cancellation will be no more an issue, please help me to better understand how. Otherwise, if there is no way to avoid cancellation, please explain me why no improvement can save it. In any case, thank you for your review, I hope your help can make me a better Wikipedian. Marcocisternino (talk) 10:37, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi . Wikipedia article should only be written for notable subject. In other words, subjects that have already been extensively written about in books, magazines, journals, newspapers, and news websites. (See WP:N and WP:RS). Unfortunately, Bitpit does nto seem to meet that standard, however if you can find some third-party references to add to the article, it could be kept.- MrX 11:42, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, your advice is really precious. I have some references, from universities and research programs. I would like to ask you how to better put them in the article, I mean it would be better to put them as Notes or as External Links... Some researcher are working with bitpit at the moment and more references will be ready in a while. I hope this will be sufficient to at least leave the article on Wikipedia, hoping that users and interested people will modify it in the future. Marcocisternino (talk) 13:29, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I have removed the deletion nomination for now to give you time to add sources. Please bear in mind that the sources need to be published, so any unpublished research is not useful for establishing notability. References should be added inline with the article text using WP:CITE templates. This will automagically generate footnotes in the References section. You should read WP:REFSTART for more information. If you have any specific questions or would like for me to evaluate any sources, you can ask here. Cheers.- MrX

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you very much ! I appreciate your thoughtful message.- MrX 17:18, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ek din Boston mein
Hello, I have removed the prod tag you placed on Ek din Boston mein, as another editor's prod tag was removed from the article about an hour before you added the tag. I only did this for procedural reasons and would not object to nominating this article at AfD. Cheers, &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 17:15, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for letting me know.- MrX 17:19, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Chrissymad. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Zafar Nayab, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

CHRISSY MAD ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  12:11, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Every article has been placed under NPOV. As I've explained to about five of you now, the articles are absolutely riddled with bias from the US-based skeptics' movement. The writing is abysmal, full of weasel-words, dog-whistles and slander against the paranormal and Pagan communities. Find some other religion to attack, please, skeptics; you've been hounding our group for long enough. Wakebrew (talk) 20:23, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm sure your intentions are good, but you're trying to bite of more than you can chew. You can't change systemic bias by TAGBOMBING articles and removing categories without meaningful discussion. I suggest either raising your concerns at a central venue like WP:Village Pump or WP:NPOV/N, or starting a discussion on one of the article talk pages. You should be prepared to support your arguments by citing  Wikipedia policies and reliable sources. I hope that helps.- MrX 20:33, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Have a look
Great America Committee -- Have a look, see if you can find more sources? Sagecandor (talk) 01:28, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, I will as soon as I have an opportunity.- MrX 02:06, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

æternity project
Heyy. I am the Editor of the æternity project Wiki. The links I am putting are not to a personal page, but rather to the team members' professional resumes, or notable work. These links would better introduce the team to the readers, instead of having to create a dedicated Wikipedia page for each of the team members. This was in no way a publicity or spam. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snasps (talk • contribs) 08:26, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Did you read WP:ELNO? You are not supposed to do that. If those people are important enough to write about in an encyclopedia, you should be able to find material in SECONDARY sources to CITE.- MrX 11:21, 19 May 2017 (UTC)


 * I read WP:ELNO and understand your point. But although these guys are not "well known" and I haven't found secondary sources on them, but for this project they are. Anyways I can do without those links in the article.

Thank you for your input.
 * If the people are not well-known, then you should simply list the names of key people, and perhaps their role or title. Remember, everything must tie back to a reliable source or it shouldn't be in the article. This is a bedrock policy at Wikipedia.- MrX 13:23, 19 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Ok thanks for your help. I will remeber that.
 * Hey. I have begin putting in links to references. I will need sometime to cover the whole article. Please advise if it I am on the good track.
 * I'm afraid not. Blogs are usually not usable as sources. Self-published sources like Github are rarely usable, and forum posts are never usable. Websites like http://whyerlang.com are not usable. You cite two books, but you also need to include the page number or numbers where the referenced material was found, as well as the publisher and ISBN. Reliable sources are books, magazines, journals, and online news articles. Please read WP:RS so that you understand how to identify reliable sources.- MrX 16:27, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The books I am citing are usually independent researches. I have cited several online news articles like from financial times and wired, are these generally acceptable. I will be adding more books as references also. Just bear with me a little bit :)
 * Did you read WP:RS? "Independent researches" are not books and they are not reliable sources. The Wired and Financial Times articles do not mention aeternity. You have apparently used them to prop up original research. I strongly recommend that you remove all material that cannot be verified in reliable sources .- MrX 10:55, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * These are most part of academic thesis that are peer reviewed or mentored by known professors or done and funded by well known institutes. I understand that WP:RS permits those.

I am still in the process of adding new sources...
 * Where in the guidelines did you read that theses can be used as sources?- MrX 15:33, 23 May 2017 (UTC)


 * WP:RS Makes exception for the following:

1- "Some news outlets host interactive columns they call "blogs", and these may be acceptable as sources if the writers are professional journalists or professionals in the field on which they write" - Blogs made by professionals in the field. 2- "Self-published material may sometimes be acceptable when its author is an established expert whose work in the relevant field has been published by reliable third-party publications" Established experts. Please do note that what I am writing about is a technology being developed as of now, and the only comparable/similar technology which is Ethereum, is less than 2 years old.

Speedy Delection of Bossier Chamber of Commerce
Hi MrX ,I am new in wikipedia and i just got a notification that the page I made, Bossier Chamber of Commerce was in speddy deletion because of copyright infringement ((Duplication Detect) and i remove the data that was copied or same like as other URL. Thanks for reviewing my article. NoNishant (talk) 12:31, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, an administrator will look at it and decide it needs to be deleted. It may still be deleted since the copyrighted material is still in the article revision history.- MrX 12:34, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the edit! Erickmedia (talk) 14:16, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome . I was glad to help.- MrX 14:23, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Friend
Wanna be friends? Erickmedia (talk) 14:25, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi If by friend you mean an anonymous person on the internet who you don't know and who could be an axe murderer, but who works with other editors in a friendly way to build a great encyclopedia, then yes!- MrX

Edit
Can you edit my page more please I really want it to be good. Thanks Erickmedia (talk) 14:43, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
 * That's for you to do after you learn more about the project. You should spend your time here learning how to edit articles, research sources, and participate in discussions about how to improve articles. Please keep in mind, Wikipedia is not like Facebook or Instagram. Cheers.- MrX 14:58, 19 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Are you an administrator if you are how did you become one? Erickmedia (talk) 15:04, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

2nd am I a administrator? ? Erickmedia (talk) 15:05, 19 May 2017 (UTC)


 * No, neither of us are administrators. We are editors. Just so you know you do not need to create a section heading when you reply to someone on a talk page. WP:TPG is a good read. Best.- MrX 15:11, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Wait how did you do those stuff when you did like, this user is instrested in ancient Egypt or whatever? Erickmedia (talk) 15:16, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Again, please don't create a new section each time you post. Just click the edit tab and edit in the section that you already created. WP:Userbox describes how to add userboxes to your user page.- MrX 16:04, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Can you revert edits even if your not an administrator? Erickmedia (talk) 15:17, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, anyone can REVERT edits, provide they have good reason to do so.- MrX 16:04, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Adopt me, please!
I have browsed the Adopt-a-user's adoption list and I found you as a good candidate for adoption. Not like I adopt YOU, but you adopt me. Thanks! GermanGamer77 (talk) 16:33, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, I will certainly consider it. Can you tell me what your goals here are; what you would like to learn; and what editing skills you think need most improvement?- MrX 16:42, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Mainly I have no idea how to work Wikipedia, and what is a legitimate source and what is not. GermanGamer77 (talk) 16:52, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, I just put a large welcome message on your talk page. I want you to click on every link in it and carefully read what you find. It will take you a while and I don't want you to rush.


 * When you're done, come back here and ask any specific questions you have about what you read. And then answer the questions that I posed above, being thoughtful about your answers. Then I will consider adopting you, with the understanding that you will have to do 90% of the work. Good luck.- MrX 17:03, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Team
Hey wanna be a team???? Erickmedia (talk) 23:58, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Userboxes
I found many troubling userboxes on Userboxes/Politics. So please revert your changes on the WikiProject Donald Trump.--Broter (talk) 07:12, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I decline. Two wrongs don't make a right. Feel free to nominate any of those non-policy-compliant userboxes for deletion or start a discussion at a noticeboard.- MrX 11:29, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

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Revert
How did you revert edits???? Erickmedia (talk) 15:06, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * It's explained here: WP:REVERT.- MrX 15:21, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Decluttering
I redirected it to Hoarding, its antonym. Bearian (talk) 15:31, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
 * That works for me.- MrX 15:39, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

I am very disappointed
You just missed a once in a lifetime opportunity for a piped link to Airplane!, and I think slightly less of you for it. Timothy Joseph Wood 17:33, 24 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Once in a lifetime? Surely other opportunities will present themselves? --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:41, 24 May 2017 (UTC)


 * I had to stare at that Shirley for a minute before I got it (despite occasionally saying "Don't call me Shirley" myself in conversation). Did MrX have knowledge of the OP's real name? I thought. I'm not accustomed to seeing humor from MrX, especially the inane silly brand of humor, verbal slapstick. But a piped link would be useless for readers who haven't seen the movie or have forgotten that particular bit of wordplay. Either they get it or they don't. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  17:43, 24 May 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure not getting that reference falls under discretionary sanctions. Timothy Joseph Wood  17:46, 24 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Guess we're both safe then. Floq too. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  17:47, 24 May 2017 (UTC)


 * @Timothyjosephwood: Indeed, and thank you for noticing. Too often, my wit is overlooked.- MrX 17:49, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
 * @Mandruss: Oh no you did not just call my humour inane and silly. See previous comment.- MrX 17:49, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Your wit is not overlooked, rather hidden IME. Like many at Wikipedia. One of the things I wish would change. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  17:53, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Use of Template:Non-admin closure
, using this template is not necessary when closing regular discussions. According to the template documentation, it's solely intended for closing AfD discussions (the corresponding template for RM discussions is Template:RMnac). It's obviously no big deal (the worst that could happen is that people get the mistaken impression that closures without the template were made by admins), I just thought you might like to know. TompaDompa (talk) 18:47, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, OK. Now I know!- MrX 18:51, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Manchester Arena...
Please don't whitewash the article of mentions of Islam.El cid, el campeador (talk) 18:14, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Careful with the accusations. I've done no such thing.- MrX 18:17, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You took out three references to Islam.. what would you call that? El cid, el campeador (talk) 18:20, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Be specific and provide diffs to back your accusations. Ive made dozens of edits to the article. My most recent were removing "Sunni Muslim" which was not found in the cited source. See also WP:V.- MrX 18:23, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Look,I'm not pressing charges, I was just talking to you person to person. I added "of Muslim faith." If you want to take it out that's your choice.El cid, el campeador (talk) 18:29, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Please read the source carefully. It says he was raised in a Muslim household. It says nothing about him being "of Muslim faith". Those are two different things. When in doubt, just quote the source.- MrX 18:34, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

"A couple of months ago he [Salman] was chanting the first kalma [Islamic prayer] really loudly in the street. He was chanting in Arabic. “He was saying ‘There is only one God and the prophet Mohammed is his messenger’.’" But of course he was not religious.El cid, el campeador (talk) 19:08, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

The Russia timeline.
I put back a whole bunch of deletions you made of relevant material. The thing about the Trump "Obama wiretapped me" thing is part of the coverup. The desperate rush to prove this lie (as it was soon proven to be such) derailed the House intelligence committee investigation for well over a month and led to the recusal and removal of the Chairman of the committee. This is an extremely important part of the narrative.Arglebargle79 (talk) 13:14, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, but you have to add sources and there is a discussion on the talk page in which other editors object to this content. Let's continue to discuss it there.- MrX 13:22, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Potskho etseri
Thank you for reviewing my first page and adding categories and the stub banner! I wasn't sure how to do that - you learn something new every day. Gxrneyme (talk) 16:59, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome .- MrX 18:51, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Legacypac. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Jardín (album), and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Legacypac (talk) 18:39, 29 May 2017 (UTC) Weird, did not mean to do that. Legacypac (talk) 18:42, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Continued from WP:Village pump (idea lab)#Archiving pages before deletion
I've brought this here because it's getting a little too far off-topic and into specifics for the section at the idea lab. As you've thought about related issues and have more technical expertise, I'd like to here your thoughts on the following.

I had considered the idea of an off-wiki bot (or script, or something) to accomplish my suggestion of archiving all pages tagged for deletion, without requiring exhaustive community approval. That is, after all, what some other wikis are already doing. The main problem I found in researching that idea was speed: some pages are deleted within seconds of tagging, or without being tagged at all (if an admin believes a page meets a CSD). I thought an on-wiki bot, archiving the pages before admins could notice them, would be the only way to solve that problem. Something I didn't include in my statement at the idea lab is that the deletion guideline and policy pages may have to be edited to state that an archived copy must be available for all pages about to be deleted before they are deleted (with some exceptions). I omitted that part for brevity and because it might sound like additional bureaucracy or instruction creep, but I'm sure scripts or bots could be created to automate the process of admins checking for an archived copy before hitting the delete button. Do you have any ideas for how to solve the speed issue, generally and conceptually, for an off-wiki bot performing the task of archiving pages before they're deleted? Thanks.

ʍw 14:45, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Any page eligible for G4 deletion would have existed for at least seven days while it is discussed at AfD. There's no need to archive every new article. The bot would only have to archive articles at AfD, so I don't really see speed being an issue given that there are roughly 100 articles nominated to AfD each day. I firmly believe that we should simply give new page patrollers the ability to see deleted AfD articles. I can't conceive any valid argument against that, other than the difficulty of coding it into MediaWiki.- MrX 15:46, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

discussion moved
Just to let you know, I've moved the discussion on my talk page to the article talk page. SW3 5DL (talk) 18:04, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks.- MrX 18:08, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

The future of NPP and AfC/Work group
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Commons
Here: File:8 June 2017 Comey Statement for the Record Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.pdf. Sagecandor (talk) 18:17, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks . What do you think is the best way to include it in the articles? External link, see also, or as a thumbnail?- MrX 18:30, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Both ! Sagecandor (talk) 22:41, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Testimony of James Comey
Per your edit here to Talk:Testimony of James Comey, thanks for removing it, as I didn't know the rules about the placing of these templates. I knew that American politics topics were covered by it, and I looked at the template page, but there was no documentation saying who could place it, and where it could be placed. But thanks again!  Seagull123  Φ  22:55, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem, it's a very common mistake. The documentation is buried somewhere in Arbcom procedures. Maybe we can get an admin to add usage note to the template. Happy editing!- MrX 00:38, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Your post
Your post to his user talk page will accomplish nothing. He's still doing this as part of WP:WIKIHOUNDING. Per comments by admin at the now speedily keep closed Articles for deletion/Defeating ISIS. If you have any advice on how to get past this, let me know, please. Sagecandor (talk) 22:41, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * My advice is to ignore it, and when it becomes untenable, one of the admins watching the situation will sanction him, or eventually it may end up at AE or Arbcom. His behavior is not going unnoticed.- MrX 23:36, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You mean do nothing and hope for WP:Defend each other from someone other than myself? Sagecandor (talk) 23:40, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

"Cherry picking sources"
In response to your question, I informed you of my (very simple) methodology on the talk page. Actually, your question was a great one, and I should have mentioned how I did it last time too. Please strike your comment accusing me of cherry-picking my sources: in terms of the BBC and Reuters, I have done no such thing. I acknowledge (as I pointed out in my last more extensive post on the topic) that other sources - the NYT, WashPo - write about the topic as if it is a fact, not an allegation. -Darouet (talk) 19:35, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I have responded on the talk page. It appears that you weren't selective about the articles, as much as you were selective about the news agencies. My comment about cherry picking is a reasonable conclusion based on what your wrote, and note that I am not attributing malice to your intentions.- MrX 19:43, 11 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Alright, thank you. It is true that I am just reviewing the policies of Reuters and the BBC, which I think should give us sufficient pause to be at least as cautious as they are. -Darouet (talk) 19:48, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

EmDrive
Curious. What makes you think an explanation of the conservation of momentum using standard textbooks constitutes "original research"? Also from the first source "But if the EMdrive is truly reactionless, then Newton is wrong. Also, Einstein is wrong, Maxwell is wrong and all of quantum physics is wrong. There's a fundamental symmetry that causes momentum conservation: translational symmetry. It means that if my system is over here, at a certain point in space, it should obey the same laws as if it's over there, at a different point in space. But if momentum conservation isn't truly fundamental, then translational symmetry cannot be a good symmetry of the Universe. In other words, there must be a preferred location, where the laws of physics are different in one location than others. The laws of physics, all of a sudden, depend on position.".--Sparkyscience (talk) 16:25, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Because most of the sources that you cite do not describe the EmDrive at all. You can't posit your own analysis of how the laws of physics apply to the subject by citing sources that only describe the laws and experiments unrelated to the subject. Read WP:OR. I was tempted to delete the entire section, but I'm trying to salvage some of it.- MrX 16:29, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Sorry but an explaination of the conservation of momentum is well within the rules SYNTH is not explanation. Standard textbooks are secondary sources not OR. did you also read all the sources?--Sparkyscience (talk) 16:36, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You only have a couple of magazine and blog articles that speculate that the EmDrive may violate the conservation of momentum. You cannot use additional sources to explain how that might apply to the subject. Likewise, a detailed explanation of conservation of momentum would violate WP:DUEWEIGHT. I'm happy to discuss the specifics on the article talk page to see what can be salvaged.- MrX 16:46, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

please help me
Hi MrX, I created a page entitled by "Mahdi Fadaei Mehrabani" who is a writer and professor with lots of writing and prises. there was already a Farsi page for him, and this English one is the English link to it. could you please help to confirm it? thanks and all the best, Wikiposten
 * OK, I have removed the deletion notice since you added source. Two of the URLs do not work. Perhaps you can fix them.- MrX 13:13, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Deprod: Pilar Ramírez Tello
Hello, I have removed the BLP prod tag you placed on Pilar Ramírez Tello. Your addition of the tag was certainly appropriate at the time you added it, but the article creator has since come along and added reliable sources. Most of the sources I checked were in Spanish, but I have a good enough command of Spanish to know that the provided sources meet the low bar for removing a BLP prod tag. Cheers, &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 14:14, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for letting me know.- MrX 14:17, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Sources for Paul Brent Allen
MrX -- Thank you for clarifying. We are currently working on finding proper sources to back up each fact for this wiki page. Is this a valid source to show his position as a Strenghts evangelist at Gallup? https://www.themuse.com/companies/gallup/people/paul

I'm trying to understand more how to prevent the information from getting deleted. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lizalu123 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your effort to find reliable sources. The best sources are newspapers, news agencies, magazines, journals, and books. themuse.com does not appear to be a reliable source, but I'm not certian, so you may want to ask at the reliable source notice board to see what other editors think about it.- MrX 19:54, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Symfobia
Hello MrX. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Symfobia, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Performing at a notable event indicates importance/significance (WP:CCSI, WP:CCSI). Thank you.  So Why  12:57, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * , you're an admin so you can decline a speedy deletion if you wish, but the essay that you linked is not part of CSD policy because it does not have community consensus. It is the opinion of you and a couple of other editors.- MrX 13:27, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The essay I linked to is a collection of common decisions by multiple admins. I'm merely linking to it as a shorthand of having to write the full reasoning in the edit summary. In this case for example, I declined the speedy deletion because previous discussion indicated that the community thinks that a band performing at a notable event is significant enough to pass A7's threshold which is what I have recorded in the essay. In general, one should remember that a page being an essay does not necessarily mean it's merely an opinion of a few editors. Many essays enjoy widespread support without being polices or guidelines (such as WP:ATA, WP:DUCK, WP:STICK etc.). Not saying this one does but just that one shouldn't assume a page lacks consensus merely because it's an essay. Regards  So  Why  13:55, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Athlete Ally


A tag has been placed on Athlete Ally, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. Jonnymoon96 (talk) 18:01, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you . You should be careful about nominating articles for deletion because you consider them too promotional, including The Trevor Project and Graphiq. These deletion nominations are not in accord with policy or practice. I suggest getting a second opinion from an admin or experienced editor before doing any more nominations like this. I hope that makes sense.- MrX 21:38, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

AN/I notice
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonnymoon96 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello MrX. Here is a direct link to the AN/I thread Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Best regards. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 22:23, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you .- MrX 22:29, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Monkey glands
Would you please explain to me specifically which policy led to your reversion? Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 18:56, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * We don't have an article called Monkey gland transplants. WP:EGG is the applicable guideline: "Keep piped links as intuitive as possible. Per the principle of least astonishment, make sure that the reader knows what to expect when clicking on a link." Also, WP:NAVBOX, especially item #4.- MrX 19:03, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Third party tag on Emeka Umeh
You tagged Emeka Umeh with the third party tag. The article is source largely to a website called Own Goal Nigeria, which appears to be a Nigerian football news/fan site. Perhaps not the most reliable source in the world, but it does not appear to be owned or operated by Umeh or his team. I would not call this a primary source. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:12, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, but it's a source that only reports on Nigerian football, doesn't appear to have editorial oversight, has broken internal links, and is owned by someone in Arkansas. Those suggest that it's a self-published blog, which makes me suspicious that it is not completely independent of the subject.- MrX 21:52, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * That makes it a questionably reliable source (not a primary source), and we had a refimprove template for that (and each individual questionable source can be tagged with rs to mark it as unreliable). WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:36, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * There are gray areas of interpretation in which judgement operates. I had hoped my explanation would illustrate that.- MrX 12:46, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections
You edit-warring against consensus. Please self-revert your edit immediately and stop edit-warring. Thank you. Politrukki (talk) 20:29, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I see two reverts by two different editors in the page's recent history, that is hardly edit warring. Also, there's no evidence of the consensus you're referencing in the relevant talk page discussions. Might want to be a bit less heavy-handed with the warnings... Fyddlestix (talk) 20:55, 23 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you, you took the words right out of my mouth. , the current discussion seems to have at least some support for leaving the January content out in favor or the more current facts. it kind of makes sense, doesn't it? I will discuss on the article talk page.- MrX 21:31, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your opinion. Actually MrX is the one who started this whole edit-war on June 12 (by my count, there have been eight revert by seven editors over the same or similar content). Their behaviour indicates that they will not stop reverting and they are not participating in discussion. I cited consensus in my edit summary. Politrukki (talk) 21:34, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Um, I just commented on the talk page as I said I would. As you can see, the previous (not-especially-strong)-consensus is being challenged.- MrX 21:46, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Please be more careful
A few of your past posts have broken section headings in talk. Just a heads up, I fixed a couple of them. and. PackMecEng (talk) 15:02, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for alerting me. I think WikEd sporadically moves the cursor sometimes, or maybe I'm doing it with the trackpad. I will preview my edits more carefully from now on.- MrX 15:21, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Cool beans, have a great weekend! PackMecEng (talk) 16:05, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi
Hi, I am updating this article after approval from the person mentioned in the article, please do not make any changes going forward. Looking forward for your cooperation.

Cheers Josh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshkay (talk • contribs) 03:45, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Your Rahi Systems Inc speedy tag
I misclicked and rolled it back, that's all. Sory about that! Keep up the good work :)  &mdash;  O Fortuna   semper crescis, aut decrescis  13:03, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, no problem.- MrX 13:07, 26 June 2017 (UTC)