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Speedy deletion of WINE Magazine
A tag has been placed on WINE Magazine requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company or corporation, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for companies and corporations.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Lincolnite (talk) 12:04, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Your note
Thank you for your note at my talk page. I have replied. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:59, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Your edits to Tom Stevenson and Wine & Spirit
Thanks for your edits but in the future do take care not to remove or disturb references that were left by editors before you. See WP:CITET for formats. M URGH  disc.  18:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:Tom Stevenson in 2006.jpg
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 * Hi MifterBot

Sorry if I have done anything wrong, but there are so many pages briefing contributors about every aspect of submitting, creating and editing absolutely everything imaginable on Wikipedia that it is difficult to know where to look for specific advice, and if I attempt to read it all, I fear I might die of old age before I reach the end! I thought I used the right template for uploading a photograph that Tom Stevenson kindly allowed me to take, I put my username down as author, and wrote "I created this work entirely by myself" for Source. I have now replaced this with Mr Meticulous for Source. I hope that is right. I see that the info embedded in the photo states March 2005, but it was March 2006! I wanted to use this photo to illustrate the Tom Stevenson page, but haven't got around to working out how that is achieved. Mr Meticulous (talk) 18:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I think this is resolved now, but please contact me if you think it is not. Mr Meticulous (talk) 15:45, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of The Sotheby’s Wine Encyclopedia
A tag has been placed on The Sotheby’s Wine Encyclopedia, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent. If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions about this.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Minkythecat (talk) 10:28, 16 July 2008 (UTC)


 * With respect, Minkythecat, this was not tagged for speedy deletion under G1, but was instantly deleted under G11. I'm just learning all these codes, but you state that G1 is used for "unsalvageably incoherent with no meaningful content or history; it is patent nonsense" and I have to ask whether it has been garbled in transmission because I find that description to be "unsalvageably incoherent with no meaningful content or history; it is patent nonsense" when applied to what this page contained, and if it is now only marked for speedy deletion, and I have placed a hangon tag on that, would you please reinstate the text so that it can be edited? Thank you. Mr Meticulous (talk)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Sotheby%E2%80%99s_Wine_Encyclopedia"


 * It was full of unsourced claims - it for you to provide independent references to support what you are claiming eg

''the size and scope of this classic reference is such that many people assume he is just the editor, not its author. However, Stevenson was not only responsible for researching and writing this book himself, he was also instrumental in co-designing (with publishers Dorling Kindersley), the compartmentalization of its text, which has been the key to its success since this encyclopedia was first published in 1988. or ease of use and comprehensive coverage that has made this book so popular with... or highly polished or unique''


 * Speculation/unsourced The purpose of this compartmentalizing of the text is two-fold: firstly it removes the distraction of hard data, technical details, tables and ancillary explanations from the flow of mainstream text, allowing free and easy access to any level of reader, and secondly it enables more experienced readers to zero-in on precise technical detail.

majority of the world’s organic producers clearly have no passion or idea how to make a superior quality wine.”


 * There's much more - the whole article is full of claims and speculations which have no identifiable sources jimfbleak (talk) 11:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I must concur with Jimfbleak's analysis. The article in its original form was not about what the book is, who wrote it, who published it, or why it is notable, but was written in a tone that was suggestive of a promotional piece. Generally, articles on Wikipedia are supposed to tell what something is with basic facts, not how awesome it may (or may not) be. I would suggest that you create a draft of the article and refine it before re-posting. For your convenience, I have posted the deleted text at User:Mr Meticulous/Sandbox, where you can edit and adjust the text to meet Wikipedia's policies. These include, but are not limited to, the use of a Neutral point of view, the use of reliable, independent sources, and the idea that every statement in the article is verifiable. Please let Jimfbleak or myself know if you need further assistance. Best, UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 13:05, 16 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, the most recent deletion (for which you were notified, above) was tagged as nonsense because it consisted only of the hangon tag, not due to any question of the original content previously deleted. I ended up deleting under the "No content" rule instead, though it's much the same thing. Best, UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 13:05, 16 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for putting this in my Sandbox. My responses to Frank cover most points. Mr Meticulous (talk) 18:45, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

The Sotheby’s Wine Encyclopedia
I read your discussion on the talk page of The Sotheby’s Wine Encyclopedia, which you created and which was deleted. Although I did not delete it, I believe it was deleted because it read like an advertisement and it did not assert or establish the notability of the book. It really seems more like a review than an encyclopedic article.

I have recreated the deleted content here. Please feel free to edit the article in your user space as you see fit, and then when it's ready, it can be moved to the main space - or, even better, reviewed by other editors first. I see you've contributed greatly to other articles, such as Christie’s World Encyclopedia of Champagne & Sparkling Wine and Tom Stevenson, which indicates you are certainly familiar with Wikipedia's procedures. I have made no judgment as to whether or not those articles are appropriate for Wikipedia; I will say that the Christie's one is questionable but it does have references, which the Sotheby's one did not. (It is possible this Sotheby's book is simply not notable enough for an article.)

Since you've contributed so frequently to a limited set of articles, it looks like you have a particular interest in wine. You may wish to check out Portal:Wine, where you can find like-minded people to assist you and who will welcome your assistance as well. (If you are the author, publisher, or professional reviewer of any of the books you've written about, it would probably also help to take a look at WP:COI, which discusses conflict-of-interest issues.)

If you have any questions, please let me know. Frank |  talk  13:17, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Oops, now that I've read your entire talk page, I see others have already recreated the deleted content. (I did this independently and pasted it at the bottom of your talk page.) I'll leave the additional copy there for now. Also, let me once again offer my assistance, as other editors have done above. Frank |  talk  13:28, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Nomination of Institute of Cape Wine Masters for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Institute of Cape Wine Masters is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Institute of Cape Wine Masters until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. MarcGarver (talk) 16:22, 13 July 2023 (UTC)