User talk:Mr Reading Turtle/Ugly argument

ARBPIA
 nableezy  - 23:09, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

The fact that you have 200 edits in the last day on user talk pages gives the impression of WP:GAMING the extended confirmed user right. Then immediately upon getting to 500 edits you make what is very apparently a change that does not have consensus on the talk page furthers that impression. When a change is disputed you need consensus to make it. You are welcome to open an RFC to seek wider input, but making such a change when you know there is no consensus for it is disruptive.  nableezy  - 23:15, 17 April 2022 (UTC)


 * @Nableezy I don't want to be rude, but you have not been civil at all. I have tried to AGF but it has run out. I offered some WikiPeace and even gave you a dove, and you have been rude in exchange. When the majority of people agreed with me, you immediately reverted my edit. Not just that, but you a used me of WP:GAMING just because I wished my fellow Jewish Wikipedians a happy Passover. Here are some links you really ought to read. WP:AGF Wikipedia:No Personal Attacks and Wikipedia: Do not bite the newcomers.
 * Fed up,
 * 𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 (talk) 23:55, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * This isnt a vote, and I have been civil. And it is not just me that has objected to the change, Iskandar23, Nishidani and Selfstudier all have as well. I have not made a single personal attack, making that claim specious and unworthy of further consideration. Making a controversial edit minutes after reaching 500 edits, when 200 of those edits occurred in user talk space within the last day certainly appears to be gaming. I havent gone to ANI to ask the user right be revoked because I do assume your good faith, but you should be aware of how things look. Regardless, there very obviously is no consensus for that change, and making it was disruptive.  nableezy  - 00:01, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Mr Reading Turtle. It's hard for me, even when assuming good faith, not to see your editing pattern as an attempt to game the system. I wanted to ask first, though, and see if there's something else going on. Is there some other explanation for your editing pattern so far? Thanks, Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 00:19, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. I was trying to wish the Jewish Wikipedians a happy Passover-all of them, not just the ones I knew. I had also been discussing the Golan Heights, and when I saw I could edit, I was bold and did. This is the first controversial edit I have made. I mostly copyedit pages. My edit was quickly reverted, but also thanked.
 * You might take my extended-editing powers away, but Wikipedia edil counts include talk page edits. If you take it away, it may mean that @Nableezy stops being uncivil to me, so I won't fully object. 𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 (talk) 00:28, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I can't take anything away. I urge you to voluntarily adhere to the extended confirmed restriction until you have more article-space editing experience. It will go a long way toward showing other editors that you respect the process. I hope you had a happy Passover! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 00:35, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Thanks also for being civil to me, and not biting me, have a great Easter/Passover/Ramadan.
 * Happy Easter! Chat Semach! Ramadan Mubarak!
 * 𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 (talk) 00:37, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Mr ReadingTurtle. I do assume good faith, and I agree with the content of your edit, but Firefangledfeathers makes a valid point. In your situation, Mr Reading Turtle, I would refrain from editing ARBPIA for a while yet, as multiple identical talk page greetings (even when well intentioned) are not really the ideal way to exceed 500 edits to edit in ARBPIA. Even though I agree with the content of your edit, there is no hurry to change the map. Jeppiz (talk) 00:36, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I fully agree with you. I will base my editing privileges on main space edits. However, can you change the map? 𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 (talk) 00:39, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I will also stay away from Nableezy, as it seems difficult to get along (dispute my to WikiPeace notes I sent). 𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 (talk) 00:40, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Repeatedly claiming I have been uncivil when I have not is casting aspersions and a personal attack. I have not made a single uncivil comment to you, and ask that you cease trolling my user talk page. You are welcome to discuss anything fruitful there, but this is not a social media site and I have no interest in any nonsense such as this. And yes, I misclicked reverting you here, sorry. I meant to do it on my user talk page.  nableezy  - 00:48, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Let's agree to ignore each other. I would like to point out that you deleted things you didn't like on my user page talk-a gross violation of Wikipedia policy. 𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 (talk) 00:50, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I immediately self-reverted my edit here as a mistake. I meant to revert your trolling on my user talk page, not anything here. When a user self-reverts something they are acknowledging they made an error. But feel free to report it if that makes you feel better.  nableezy  - 00:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Nableezy Please leave my talk page. I am tired of my consistent atémoste ti make peace with you being pushed aside for comments. Please leave this talk page. Like I said take a break at the DoF 𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 (talk) 00:59, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Warning
Please stop your disruptive editing. Wikipedia aims to provide a safe environment for its collaborators, and harassing other users potentially compromises that safe environment. If you continue to harass other editors, you may be blocked from editing.

I'm intentionally not reading the above thread, because this is something that's unacceptable in any context. When someone is reverting your edits to their talk page, take the hint and leave them alone. Take them to ANI, AE, etc. if you must, but leave them alone. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 06:15, 18 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes, quite. @Mr Reading Turtle: You have said you want 'peace', to disengage and not have people berate you on your talk page. Perhaps extend that courtesy to others. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:23, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok. I will stop immediately. 𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 (talk) 11:15, 18 April 2022 (UTC)