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Sophy Gardner
This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Sophy Gardner, and it appears to include material copied directly from http://www.sophy4gloucester.co.uk/about-sophy/.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Sophy Gardner


A tag has been placed on Sophy Gardner requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://www.sophy4gloucester.co.uk/about-sophy/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Your draft article
Hello, B Kirby! Administrator Peridon asked me to take a look at your draft to see if it would be accepted as an article at Wikipedia. I gather there was an earlier issue with copying; it looks like you have fixed that.

So the issue now is about the subject herself: does Sophy Gardner meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion here? Those criteria are found at WP:GNG and WP:BIO. You've made the best case you could, and she comes close to meeting the criteria in several ways - but probably not close enough IMO. She is an MBE, but Wikipedia does not consider that to be an "automatic inclusion" honor. Similarly, "Wing commander" is not a rank that provides automatic inclusion. She is a candidate for election (chosen in April 2013 to run in 2015? how long is your election season, anyhow???) but being a candidate for election does not provide automatic inclusion either (see WP:POLITICIAN). Of course, if she should be elected to Parliament she would certainly rate an article. The other way to get included is to receive significant coverage from multiple independent reliable sources. She has gotten some coverage from the Gloucester Citizen about running for office, but she would need more than that - she would need to be notable aside from her campaign.

I am just one person and I don't speak for all of Wikipedia. If you want to put the article forward and see if it survives without getting deleted, you can do that. If you decide to do that, some style pointers first: Refer to her in the body of the article as "Gardner", not as "Sophy". Add her birth date or birth year if you know it. Title the article "Sophy Gardner", not "Sophy Gardner MBE". Finally, ask me to do a quick copy-edit before you put it into article-space, and to advise you on reference style and categories.

If you have comments or questions, put them here; I will see them. --MelanieN (talk) 06:48, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oops, you are way ahead of me: it looks like you have already launched the article Sophy Gardner. Go ahead and make the improvements I suggested, such as "Gardner" instead of "Sophy" (that's a red flag for an article that is not encyclopedic). I'll add a few categories for you. --MelanieN (talk) 06:51, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
 * ...and - I see it promptly got nominated for deletion. I had a feeling that would happen. At the discussion I suggested that instead of deletion, the article be made into a redirect to the article about the election. We often do that for candidates. It keeps their name in the encyclopedia, and if they should win (and thus become notable), it makes it easy to restore the article. --MelanieN (talk) 17:46, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Sophy Gardner for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Sophy Gardner is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Sophy Gardner until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Gbawden (talk) 11:10, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Possible additional references
At the AfD discussion, somebody posted a whole lot of additional references, suggesting that they could be enough to make her meet the inclusion requirements.

The list of possible references is here: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Sophy+Gardner%22+(site%3Aindependent.co.uk+OR+site%3Atheguardian.com+OR+site%3Atelegraph.co.uk+OR+site%3Adailymail.co.uk+OR+site%3Athetimes.co.uk+OR+site%3Amirror.co.uk+OR+site%3Aexpress.co.uk+OR+site%3Athesun.co.uk+OR+site%3Aujnews.com+OR+site%3Atheweek.com+OR+site%3Amanchestereveningnews.co.uk+OR+site%3Athisislancashire.co.uk+OR+site%3Ametro.co.uk+OR+site%3Abirminghammail.co.uk+OR+site%3Ascotsman.com+OR+site%3Aheraldscotland.com+OR+site%3Awalesonline.co.uk)&rlz=1CAASUA_enUS604US605&oq=%22Sophy+Gardner%22+(site%3Aindependent.co.uk+OR+site%3Atheguardian.com+OR+site%3Atelegraph.co.uk+OR+site%3Adailymail.co.uk+OR+site%3Athetimes.co.uk+OR+site%3Amirror.co.uk+OR+site%3Aexpress.co.uk+OR+site%3Athesun.co.uk+OR+site%3Aujnews.com+OR+site%3Atheweek.com+OR+site%3Amanchestereveningnews.co.uk+OR+site%3Athisislancashire.co.uk+OR+site%3Ametro.co.uk+OR+site%3Abirminghammail.co.uk+OR+site%3Ascotsman.com+OR+site%3Aheraldscotland.com+OR+site%3Awalesonline.co.uk)&aqs=chrome..69i57.455j0j9&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

If you do add some of these, be sure to cite them in the text with a reference. And then you can come to the discussion and say "I added a whole lot more references, take another look." --MelanieN (talk) 18:53, 16 October 2014 (UTC)