User talk:Ms1970m

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Could I please get some assistance in reviewing the following article under User:Ms1970m/MintecThanks, --Ms1970m
 * The company doesn't seem to meet notability requirements WP:ORG and WP:GNG. C T J F 8 3  chat 21:59, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * My mistake, I didn't do my homework thoroughly enough. Plenty of G News results. I do agree it looks a little like an ad. C T J F 8 3  chat 22:15, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree- seems notable but reads like an ad. I will keep the helper tag alive so that you can get a third opinion.-- Forty two  Thanks for all the fish!  22:06, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks like an ad but is otherwise notable. BTW I love your signature Forty two.  Mr. R00t    Talk  22:11, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Could I please request a more detailed observation on where the article reads like an ad? Thanks, (Ms1970m (talk) 23:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC))
 * What is the article? --ANowlin: talk 23:44, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry the article is located onUser:Ms1970m/Mintec (Ms1970m (talk) 23:46, 26 July 2010 (UTC))
 * It reads like it is advertising the product or company. The usage of (r) makes me think it's copied off of a website.  Mr. R00t    Talk  18:41, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Can you please be more specific on what section of the article reads like and advertisment. The (R) is being used because it's a registered tradmark name simular to Microsoft and SQL should we take it off? (Ms1970m (talk))

Please Ms1970m (before you possibly re-new the 'helpme' template), make sure you first take some time and read all of the following:
 * Notabilty
 * Companies' Notability Guidelines
 * If you're interested in a Good Article about a software product, please take a look at both Mac OS X and Talk:Mac OS X. This particular  article has been in development since 2001 and many editors have been involved along the way.  I know you might be discouraged right now but sometimes these things just take time.
 * Shearonink (talk) 22:58, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Now Im confused you are taking about our notabilty, it was my understanding that that has been taken proven already, that i don't understand is how a neutral article is being seen as an ad, so this is why I'm asking for more input what in my 4 sentinces makes is read like an add? (Ms1970m (talk))
 * You say "our notability". You should read WP:COI. It is rarely a good idea to try to write an article about a company or business that you're personally involved with. --Deskana (talk) 00:19, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * First question - Did you click on those links I provided and read their articles?
 * Second question - Did you read the article about Mac OS X?


 * Listen, I understand that you're frustrated...how about you go at this from another angle. Why do you think that some Wikipedia editors might think that Notability has been established and other Wikipedia editors might not?  Because decisions about what happens around Wikipedia are built by consensus and all of us have opinions about what will make Wikipedia better.  So sometimes we disagree and sometimes all that consensus-building can make things around here a little messy.  Also, every single person who has taken the time to look over your article and has taken the time to comment?...we're all volunteers.  For me (and only me), the major issue right now is that the text reads to me like ad-copy (as if it might been written by someone who is closely associated with the company)...that is why I took the time to find a Good Article about Apple, anorther 'tech company'.  I took the time and did some research as a courtesy to you, a fellow editor, so you could take a look at that article and study it and learn from it and then be able to improve your piece.
 * I really do hope that helps and I'm sorry if it doesn't. Shearonink (talk) 02:22, 28 July 2010 (UTC)