User talk:Msimmons81

Andrew Cheng
The main caution I have at this point is that none of the references you've cited would be enough to get him past WP:NACTOR by themselves. The mere fact that a person is listed in a directory (IMDb, Toronto Theatre Database, the ACCT's own PDF of its CSA nominees, etc.) doesn't in and of itself make them notable enough to be in Wikipedia, and neither do primary sources such as his profiles on the webpages of organization's he's been directly involved in. Those kinds of things are citable for additional confirmation of facts, but they're not enough to make an article keepable if they're the only sources in the article. Rather, basic notability has to be demonstrated by the use of reliable sources, such as coverage about him in newspapers, magazines, radio or television interviews, etc. — once you can add at least one or two of those, the article will be on more solid ground.

I'd be happy to help try to track down some better sources, but I've just done a quick Google search and can't really find any good sources out there about him at all. I'm sure there will be in the future as he gets more roles, and I'll certainly keep an eye out — but right now, unfortunately, it looks like he's just not quite over the bar yet and the article will probably get declined in its current state.

Also just a couple of usage notes for you about adding his name to articles:
 * 1) we don't capitalize the parenthetical disambiguator in an article title; the correct title is "Andrew Cheng (actor)" rather than "Andrew Cheng (Actor)";
 * 2) we pipe the disambiguator out of the title in body text; that is, when you're adding a link to an article you type Andrew Cheng rather than Andrew Cheng (actor) ; and
 * 3) finally, while it's okay to add his name to the body text of relevant articles before the article exists, the infobox of an article isn't supposed to contain redlinks at all — so in Gavin Crawford's Wild West it's okay for his name to already be linked in the text of the article even though it's still a redlink, but it should be left unlinked in the "starring" field of the infobox until the article's actually in place.

Hope all that helps a bit... Bearcat (talk) 20:03, 12 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, strictly speaking, merely being nominated for an award isn't a claim of notability that entitles a person to a Wikipedia article. That doesn't mean a person has to win an award to qualify for inclusion here — we have lots of articles about people who have been nominated for awards but never won, and some about people who've never even gotten a nomination — but you still have to rely on independent coverage of him in reliable sources, rather than just a master list of the nominees, to make the article keepable. If he wins it, then one news article which names him as a winner will make him notable enough — but if he's just a nominee, then you still need a couple of outside sources to get him over the bar. The fact that some (not all) of the other nominees have articles already doesn't have any bearing on it one way or the other; each article has to be evaluated for the validity or non-validity of its own sources, not by "if X has an article then Y is automatically entitled to get one too". Bearcat (talk) 20:42, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 21:09, 12 February 2014 (UTC)