User talk:Mstrassburg

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I recently wrote an article Jonathan Fielding it was removed and there is no history of it in my Contributions any more. The materials I used were provided by Dr. Fielding and were his standard bio and resume... of course, some of this is published elsewhere on the web as he is a member of many prestigious organizations which give pieces of his bio when they list him on their web site. I tried to explain that in the Discussion section when someone removed the Overview as copyright violation. However, now the Article is completley gone as is any history of it. Thanks Dr. Strassburg


 * Hi. I think the issue is that you need to be able to prove that the copyright holder authorises the content to be included on Wikipedia. At Copyright_problems it says the following:

Copyright owners who submitted their own work to Wikipedia: If you submitted work to Wikipedia which you had previously published (especially online), and your submission was marked as a potential infringement of copyright, stating that you are the copyright holder of the work on the article's talk page helps, but will not likely prevent deletion. It is sufficient to either: Hope that helps --Jon186 22:54, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Make a note permitting reuse under the GFDL at the site of the original publication; or
 * Send an email from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en at wikimedia dot org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation.

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Jonathan Fielding
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Jonathan Fielding, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to be a direct copy from http://www.americanlegacy.org/98.htm, and therefore a copyright violation. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted.

If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) then you should do one of the following:


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 * If a note on the original website states that re-use is permitted under the GFDL or released into the public domain leave a note at Talk:Jonathan Fielding with a link to where we can find that note.
 * If you own the copyright to the material: send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the GFDL, and note that you have done so on Talk:Jonathan Fielding.

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If you would like to begin working on a new version of the article you may do so at Talk:Jonathan Fielding/Temp. Leave a note at Talk:Jonathan Fielding saying you have done so and an administrator will move the new article into place once the issue is resolved. Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! Garion96 (talk) 08:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Copyright
Hi, I can't restore the article, since the history contains copyright violations. If it all is derived from his standard bio (written by him or his staff) that means the copyright belongs to them as well. If you have permission to release the material under the GFDL you can follow the steps above. However, you can recreate the article and start from scratch, the article does not have to be undeleted for that. Also, regarding Image:JFielding001.jpg, the picture looks like it came from the same set as the picture on this website. Since it's not likely you take the picture, the copyright still falls under Fielding or his staff. Which means it can't be licensed under a Public Domain tag. Unless, of course, Fielding or staff releases it into the Public Domain. Garion96 (talk) 10:55, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, Dr. Fielding has provided me with the materials including the latest photo. Obviously, he uses this in many places. I am happy to work on a new article, however, I did write a number of sections specifically for Wikipedia and would like to be able to obtain a copy of that. I guess I did not keep a copy, as I never thought something so basic as information from a standard bio written by the owner (Dr. Fielding) would have so many copyright issues. Where can I get a copy of my original article? Thanks Dr. Strassburg Mstrassburg 11:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I will look at the article and restore the non-opyvio portions. Another thing, you did exactly the same on Ciro de Quadros. Where big portions of the article are copyright violations. Garion96 (talk) 11:06, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I wrote this using standard bio materials for Dr. de Quadros, who is also world famous and bio appears in many places. He has reviewed this entry and agrees with what I wrote. Again, in our business (Public Health Professionals) many of us are on a variety of different committees and organizations which need to publish parts of our bios, thus the material appears in a variety of places. Usually such text is written by the person themselves and given out for common use (that is the case for both Drs Fielding and Quadros). I understand your concerns, however in these sort of cases where the author indicates that such materials are from individuals themselves (related to standard bios and resumes) I would think that this should be allowable under normal copyright usage. Mstrassburg 11:15, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * There was not much in the article which was not copied & pasted. I put it below here. The fact that they release their bio for press releases and such does not mean they release it under public domain or the GFDL. Everything one writes is automatically copyrighted, for Wikipedia that person has to explicit give permission to license it under the GFDL or public domain. This might seem too strict, but we have to be careful regarding copyright. Also, people give press releases but they don't automatically want their text to be modified, and that is one of the core principles of Wikipedia, that other people can modify the text you submit. Garion96 (talk) 11:22, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Garion96: I believe your personal interpretation of what should be allowed regarding bios and from resumes appears to be very restrictive indeed. Are you saying one should not cut and paste from a list of publications of the author?? If one followed your guidelines here I would imagine that many notable persons included responsibly in Wikipedea would be removed. What I am saying is that; 1. I am using materials directly provided by Dr. Fielding with regards to his Bio and Resume 2. I have his full permission to use these materials and he approves of the article. 3. That these materials were developed by Dr. Fielding himself. Not sure what more you could possible want in this sort of article.

A similar situation exists for the other article I authored for Ciro de Quadros. Despite the common elements elsewhere I have spent considerable time organizing and editing these entries so that it is appropriate for Wikipeadia.

Dr. Strassburg Mstrassburg 21:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not just my personal opinion. See also Copyright.


 * 1) Which means he has the copyright on those materials.
 * 2) Please follow the steps in the section above to confirm to us that there is permission.
 * 3) See point 2.
 * You did organize and edit stuff. However, (almost) every sentence is a word for word copy of text found somewhere else on the net. To simply stop having to deal with this, it would be much better to simply rewrite the text in your own words. Garion96 (talk) 23:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I am happy to include the correct copyright tag although I am not quite sure which one to use. I am acting for the contributor, this case Dr. Fielding, who is the author of all these materials, as is Dr. de Quadros.

"For example, if the contributor was in fact the author of the text that is published elsewhere under different terms, that does not affect their right to post it here under the GFDL.." Mstrassburg 16:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Nope, they can still release their materials under the GFDL. Just send a mail or have them send a mail to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org and they will undelete the article. The same also counts for the picture. Garion96 (talk) 20:21, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Selected Presentations
Using Evidence to Improve Public Health Infrastructure. January 7, 2004 http://www.publichealth.pitt.edu/supercourse/SupercoursePPT/17011-18001/17731.ppt#256,2,

Public Health Agencies—Roles, Responsibilities and Challenges Testimony of Jonathan E. Fielding M.D. M.P.H. Director of Public Health and Health Officer Department of Health Services, Los Angeles County to the The Little Hoover Commission June 27, 2002, Sacramento, California http://www.lhc.ca.gov/lhcdir/pubhealth/FieldingJune27.pdf

Beyond Bioterorrism: Building Public Health in the 21st Century. September 26, 2002. http://www.partnershipph.org/col2/conf/highlights/fielding.pdf

Recent Publications
Cole, B.L., Shimkhada, R., Morgenstern, H., Kominski, G., Fielding, J.E., Wu, S., “Projected Health Impact of the Los Angeles City Living Wage Ordinance” JECH, 59:645-650. (2005).

Anderson, L.M., Brownson, R.C., Fullilove, M.T., Teutsch, St.M., Novick, L.F., Fielding, J.E., Land, G.H. “Evidence-Based Public Health Policy and Practice:  Promise and Limits” Am Journal of Prev Med, 28 (5S) (2005).

Georgenson, M., Thorpe, L.E., Merlino, M., Frieden, T.R., Fielding, J.E., The Big Cities Health Coalition, “Shortchanged? An Assessment of Chronic Disease Programming in Major US City Health Departments” J Urban Health.June;82 (2):233-4 (2005).

Simon, P.A., Leslie, P., Run G. Jion, G.Z., Rporter, R. Aguirre, A., Fielding, J.E., “Impact of Restaurant Hygiene Grade Cards on Foodborne-Disease Hospitalizations in Los Angeles County” JEnviron Health, Mar;67 (7):32-6, 56; quiz 59060, (2005).

Cole, B.L., Shimkhada, R., Fielding, J.E., Kominski, G., Morgenstern, H., “Methodologies for Realizing the Potential of Health Impact Assessment” Am J of Prev Med, May;28 (4):382-9, (2005).

Cole, B.L., Shimkhada, R., Morgenstern, H., Kominski, G., Fielding, J.E., Wu, S., “Projected Health Impact of the Los Angeles City Living Wage Ordinance” JEpidemiol Community Health, 59:645-650 (2005).

Eisenman, D.P., Wold, C., Fielding, J.E., Long, A., Setodji, C., Hickey, S., Gelberg, L., “Differences in Individual-Level Terrorism Preparedness in Los Angeles County” Am J Prev Med, (2005).

Dannenberg, A.L., Bhatia, R., Cole, B.L., Dora, C., Fielding, J.E., Kraft, K., McClymonth-Peace, D., Mindell, J., Onyekere, C., Roberts, J.A., Ross, C.L., Rutt, C.D., Scott-Samuel, A., Tilson. H.H., “Growing the Field of Health Impact Assessment in the United States: An Agenda for Research and Practice” AM J. PH, Vol. 96, No. 2 (2006).

Simon, P.A., Fielding, J.E., “Public Health and Business: A Partnership That Makes Cents” Health Affairs 25, no.4, 1029-1039 (2006).

Fielding, J.E., Briss, Peter A., “Promoting Evidence-Based Public Health Policy: Can We Have Better Evidence And More Action?” Health Affairs 25, No.4, 969-978 (2006).

Cole, B.L., Shimkhada, R., Fielding, J.E., Kominski, G., Morgenstern, H., “Health Impact Assessment: Current Practice and Future Potential to Increase Awareness of Population Health Impacts of Policy Decisions” (accepted – AM J of Prev Med).

Cole, B.L., Shimkhada, R., Morgegenstern, H., Kominski, G., Fielding, J.E., Wu, S., “An Examination of the Potential Health Consequences of Expanded Funding for After-School Programs – The Role of Research Versus Rhetoric” (in Review – J of Policy analysis and Management).

Yancey, A., Lewis, L., Sloane, D., Diamant, A., McCarthy, W., Guinyard, J.J., Fielding, J.E., “Walking the Talk: Process Evaluation of a Local Health Department-Community Collaboration Incorporate Physical Activity Into Organizational Practice” (in press – PubMed).

Ockene, J.K., Edgerton, E.A., Teutsch, S.M., Marion, L.N., Miller, T., Genevro, J.L., Loveland-Cherry, C.J., Fielding, J.E., Briss, P.A., “Integrating Evidence-Based Clinical and Community Strategies to Improve Health” (in press – AJPM).

Other Resources
Web Presentation on Worksite Health Promotion http://www.ilo.org/encyclopedia/?d&nd=857400221&prevDoc=857400221&spack=000listid%3D010000000400%26listpos%3D0%26lsz%3D1%26nd%3D857000116%26nh%3D2%26

Intereview about pandemic flu with Dr. Fielding on Living on Earth 2005 "Cities Get Ready" http://www.loe.org/shows/shows.htm?programID=05-P13-00041

Association of Members' Advocates/Requests/March 2007/mstrassburg
Hello, just so you're aware I've opened this case. Please have a look at it and feel free to opine if you wish. —Pilot guy (go around)  20:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Permission
Hi, first of all, thank you for contacting the permissions e-mail. It's better to wait for someone of the permissions e-mail to restore the article. Or if you get a confirmation response from them, you can mail me that though here and I will undelete the article and image. Garion96 (talk) 23:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, sorry for the late response. Your message got lost in some other messages. Yes, the article looks good now. Thank you for rewriting. Garion96 (talk) 19:28, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Similar situation
I have noticed, through your posting on Jimbo's page, that we are in relatively similar situations. I do think the Wikipedia enterprise is valuable and developing but the time and energy necessary to make serious contributions seems sometimes just out of proportion. By trying to use my real name, Jeffrey Newman, I have been barred because when I originally registered I did not give my e-mail address. Now, trying to deal with that, is becoming more and more absurd. Are you persevering? I am not sufficiently accomplished in the computer and technical skills to work all this through and only do iut in the middle of the night because I have moreimportant things to do during the day. Now it is not possible to use Jimbo's page (understandably) so I don't know where to bring up anything serious and get a proper response. 85.210.255.81 02:54, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

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