User talk:Mtiedemann/Archive 2

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You might be interested to join the WikiProject Argentina. :)

--Sebastian Kessel Talk 17:31, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Re: Native Americans
Hello, I recieved your message regarding your concerns over the Native American category. I initially added a few Canadian Natives to the category Native Americans, but I was told that it was not Wikipedia policy to do so as Canadian Natives are not "Americans" in the sense of being part of the United States. The Canadian Native peoples are placed under the categories of First Nations, Inuit, and Metis, and those categories are placed in the supercatagory of Indigenous Peoples of North America. Since it is not Wikipedia policy to place Canadian Natives into the Native American category on the basis that they are not from the United States, it would seem just as inappropriate to place Native South Americans in the Native American category.

I'm just trying to follow established Wikipedia policy. Perhaps you should take your concerns over the issue to Talk:Native Americans, and discuss it there. I hope this message reaches you as I am new to using the talk pages.

From Asarelah

LOOP Reference
Oops. Mea culpa. The British Library don't seem to have a reference for the leaflets, and the ISBN originally quoted isn't valid, hence my initial deletion. --Barry Salter 19:45, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Lucy d'Abreu or Lucy D'Abreu?
Mtiedemann, I was wondering why you changed Lucy D'Abreu to Lucy d'Abreu, when her name as cited in the press used the capital "D".

http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=2374502005

→ R Young {yak ł talk } 17:52, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The BBC has her as d'Abreu with a small d- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4512526.stm
 * Mtiedemann 18:22, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

you edited Template:Gipuzkoa
...it is voted for deletion. Template:Gipuzkoa - Tobias Conradi (Talk) 17:34, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:CroydonTownHall.jpg
Hi, please add your source for this photo. If you took this photo, please add something like "Photography by myself" or similar. Thuresson 04:19, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Ceylonese leaders
Hey, thank you for the format and style editing in "Oliver Ernest Goonetilleke". I keep waiting for somebody who knows more than I do about the topic (it shouldn't be hard) to point out all sorts of errors in it.

Closely allied to Goonetilleke is "William Ivor Jennings", which I have left as pretty much a stub, hoping that somebody (you?) will undertake it.

Chris Redmond

Administrator?
I notice you've been here more than a year, have stacks of edits, but haven't become an administrator which would give you more powers. Would you like me to nominate you? I can't think you'll have any problem getting community approval. David | Talk 11:49, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Please, don't forget to clearify your edits at the edit summary. Good wiking, Mariano (t/c) 06:41, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Mishcon
Sorry about that, I accidentally reverted against an old version. Drew (Snottygobble) | Talk 00:52, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Image:Hamburg arms.gif listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:Hamburg arms.gif, has been listed at Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Greentubing 23:56, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

South Gloucestershire
Though South Gloucestershire. is these days only a Local Government area, the article does also contain a little on the Parliamentary area. I've redirected your new title for the parliamentary constituency article back into the Local Gov. one for the time being - rather than just have a 'redlink'. Of course you can always fillet the info for a separate article, ... (but even I can't see the point, and I live there :-)) Bob aka Linuxlad


 * No probs, seems appropriate for now. Mtiedemann 21:57, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Please check your WP:NA entry
Greetings, editor! Your name appears on List of non-admins with high edit counts. If you have not done so lately, please take a look at that page and check your listing to be sure that following the particulars are correct: Thank you, and have a wiki wiki day! BD2412 T 03:38, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) If you are an admin, please remove your name from the list.
 * 2) If you are currently interested in being considered for adminship, please be sure your name is in bold; if you are opposed to being considered for adminship, please cross out your name (but do not delete it, as it will automatically be re-added in the next page update).
 * 3) Please check to see if you are in the right category for classification by number of edits.

Image Tagging Image:CroydonTabHouse.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:CroydonTabHouse.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then you can use GFDL-self to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, please read fair use, and then use a tag such as or one of the other tags listed at Image copyright tags. See Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other media, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Thuresson 08:17, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

do you go to whitgift?
I just wondered why you keep on editing the whitgift page

Depute
I see you "corrected" "depute" as a spelling error on the Mikey Aziz page. In actual fact, "depute" is not a typo for "deputy", but the correct form in Scotland. Private Eye once made this mistake by pointing out a school that was advertising for a "depute headmaster". In fact this is perfectly good usage in Scottish English, so Private Eye itself was wrong!

--MacRusgail 19:04, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Argentine clean-ups
Thanks mate! Sorry about zi mistakes, mainly about the past/present thing. The Spanish articles are all written in present, and I forget to change them to past simetimes. Mariano (t/c) 05:56, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia survey
Hi. I'm doing a survey of Wikipedia editors as part of a class research project. It's quick, anonymous, and the data will be made available to the Wikipedia community later this month. Would you like to take part? More info here. Thanks! Nonplus 00:12, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

London Local Elections
Thanks for adding Hillingdon, I knew one was missing but I couldn't figure out which one. Captainj 21:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for tidying up after my work on former MPs
Thanks for your good work tidying up and improving the stubs I had been creating for former MPs ... especially for sorting out the big cut-and-paste error I had made in Thomas Henry Swain. (red face time)

I have been working on these former MPs and former constituencies for a few weeks, and had been surprised how few people seemed to be interested in editing them, so it's been great to find your eagle-eye deployed. Thanks!

--BrownHairedGirl 08:06, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks, it's very handy to have someone do all the hard work of setting up new articles, and I can just add bits to them... Good work| Mtiedemann 10:52, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


 * You're welcome: two brains better than one! Thanks for your further comments on my talk page.  Have replied there, with links to other responses elsewhere. --BrownHairedGirl 11:50, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

New categories: Category:Members of the United Kingdom Parliament from English constituencies etc.
This new cat is immediately up for deletion. It has 200+ articles already, and is growing fast (thanks for helping!).

I wonder if you would consider reviewing the debate thus far at CFD and contributing your thoughts? Here it is: Ta. --Mais oui! 11:46, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Categories_for_deletion

Category:Scottish MPs to Category:Members of the pre-1707 Scottish Parliament
As EurekaLott mentioned when closing your reopened CFD discussion, the debate has closed with a rename result. The problem is that the work of actually doing the renames is horridly backlogged. We used to have an automated bot that would do most of the work, but the bot died a month or so ago, and the bot's owner in unavailible. So the moves are currently backing up. If you want to help, you could begin the work yourself for this move in particular, since it's of importance to you. All except for the last step of the move can be done without access to admin abilities: Copy the data of the actual category entry into a new category at the new name, then one by one recategorize all the entries (this is where the bot helped). Finally, in the Working section of the CFD page, move the listing down to the last section once all are moved and an admin will perform the delete on the old category. Any help clearing the backlog is appreciated. - TexasAndroid 14:54, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Guipúzcoa vs. Gipuzkoa
There is a current discussion on the proper English name for the province. You may want to give your opinion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves#7_April_2006

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Guip%C3%BAzcoa

Jmgonzalez 16:53, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Your comments on the Adrian Hilton article are most interesting. Like you I am not convinced of its neutrality and reckon it was written either buy a close friend of Mr Hilton or by Hilton himself.

The author is rather disingenuous in referring to the objections to his parliamentary ambitions being based solely on the articles he wrote for The Spectator, for they are an accurate distillation of the book on the EU which Hilton makes so much of.

Interestingly, for one who is by no means backward in coming forward, Hilton does not tell us which venerable institute of learning awarded him his degrees

MP Infobox
Hi there - I replied to your comment on my talk page. Cheers, Petesmiles 09:45, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Good to see you've been active with the template already!! - I think we'll need a bit of time to iron out exactly what will work best - for example with regard to Malcom Wicks - his seat was basically re-classified, so 'second period in office' could be misconstrued (it implies to me that he had a period out of office which is untrue) - perhaps in these early stages we should verge on the side of simplicity and only apply secondary constituencies to those MPs who have changed seats geographically, not merely technically - what do you think? It would be great to build an Infobox template that would work well for every UK MP - that's what I believe we should aim for... have a lovely weekend! Petesmiles 13:28, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Brandon Lewis
Information removed was inaccurate and had no citations. 136.2.1.101

The recreation of properly deleted articles is vandalism
Articles for deletion/Darren Hayday WAS 4.250 17:10, 25 May 2006 (UTC)


 * It is not vandalism. From Guide to deletion:


 * If you think that an article was wrongly deleted, you can recreate the article. If you do decide to recreate it, pay careful attention to the reasons that were proffered for deletion. Overcome the objections, and show that your new, improved work meets Wikipedia article policies. It can help to write down the reasons you think the article belongs on Wikipedia on the article's discussion page. If you manage to improve on the earlier version of the article and overcome its (perceived) shortcomings, the new article cannot be speedily deleted, and any attempt to remove it again must be settled before the community, on AFD.


 * I don't have strong opinions about this article, and in its original re-created form it was horribly POV. I just think that a claim to greater notability has now been asserted, due to having a prominent position at a very young age and much more info has been added, so it is not the same page and has made efforts to overcome objections.


 * It is unfortunate that we have not been able to agree criteria for local politicians. It strikes me as odd that dozens of one-sentence articles on Liverpool and Manchester City Councillors survived AfD simply because being a councillor was considered notable, yet a full article asserting a greater claim was deleted. Page-by-page consideration of local politicians creates this kind of problem. Mtiedemann 09:29, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Why do believe "a claim to greater notability has now been asserted"? WAS 4.250 10:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


 * He is now Mayor of High Wycombe and the youngest-ever, and 31 is a notable age to be so in any borough. Anyway, the outcome of the deletion page was that the subject and creator had requested deletion, but this is not the case as can be seen on his talk page. Mtiedemann 10:57, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

He has a ceremonial post with no mayoral powers, hence he is not a mayor. That the ceremonial post is called "mayor" doesn't make him one anymore than if the ceremonial post was called "President of the US" it would make him that. Read the on line sources on the page I redirected the page to. WAS 4.250 11:08, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


 * In the UK, that is what being the Mayor or Lord Mayor means, excepting the recent creation of directly-elected mayors in London and a few other districts. Given that this system has been in place for centuries, I don't think the title 'Mayor' for a UK civic mayor can be fairly challenged as less worthy than, say, a US City Mayor in a more recent political system. It is still an important position in the UK, in terms of rank, etiquette, etc. the highest-ranked person in an area unless the monarch is visiting. The chairing of meetings and other roles of civic mayors are not ceremonial. There are other articles on Lord mayors of London or other ceremonial mayors in the UK with little other info that have survived AfD.


 * And the assertion of notability is that he is a) a councillor, b) an office-holder as a cabinet member and mayor, c) holds other offices and d) the youngest-ever holder of the Mayoralty of High Wycombe, a long-standing position. I don't assert that these should lead to the page surviving, I just state, again, that this should be tested through AFD and not by a single editor. Wouldn't it be more reasonable to have this discussion on the article's talk page (with an article to talk about) or on AFD? Mtiedemann 12:10, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

If he is noteable, then he has done something noteable. Having a list of titles is very British, but meaningless. There are babies with titles in Britain - they are not noteable. How much money did he spend in his last campaign? What platform did he run on? Who was his opponet? What were the issues in the race? What changes has he made since elected? What is the address of his office? What are his priorities now that he is in power? Can you see how ridiculous all this is? He has less power than a local boy scout leader in America. Not noteable. WAS 4.250 12:30, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Sadly, in my opinion, there are hundreds of articles for people born to British titles; there are even articles for the heirs apparent of titles which survive AfD and are considered notable because of who their parents are. Hayday, on the other hand, has a direct role in people's lives (which you can summarise by the word 'power', inappropriate as British local government has shared power, rather than individual power), indeed more than they do, under the UK system, whatever you think of it, because he is an elected politician with a historic and still-relevant role in legislation at a local level. It may be British, I am not but I recognise how the local government system works and how mayors have a role in it - and how hard it is to become one at the age of 31, harder than if it were an elected position.


 * I am not going to argue on and on about this, I just reassert my point that this discussion should include others and be in a relevant place to gauge opinion about what makes local politicans notable or not, in a UK context. Mtiedemann 14:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Talk moved to Talk:Darren Hayday - please discuss there. Mtiedemann 14:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Open University
I've added a couple of user templates at:

would you have a look at them, it's probably easier to get the rough edges taken off them when the number of users is still small. People tend to get a bit miffed if you alter the boxes after they have been put on their pages Fasach Nua 17:16, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Seem fine to me, thanks. Perhaps a more visible logo in the photo (or even the logo itself) would be an improvement as it's probably the only widely-recognised logo for a UK uni, but the building shot is quirky. Mtiedemann 19:33, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The problem with the logo is that it is fair use, ceratinly if we could use it, it would be my preference! I think all regional centres are identical architectually, although associating the OU with a building seems a very odd idea indeed Fasach Nua 21:31, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


 * We could use a PT3 form, but i still have nighmares about them! Fasach Nua 22:02, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Darren Hayday
Please see my comments at the bottom of the page. -- Fr a ncs2000 11:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC)