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TMZ
And calling TMZ "shit" is neither uncivil nor inaccurate.. Sincerely, well said. --76.110.201.132 (talk) 00:17, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 * IP98, why would think it would be inaccurate as a minimum? How odd. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:20, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Charles Leesman reverts
I don't know about you but it seems pretty obvious that Redmen44 is Carthage44, who was blocked almost a year ago.--Yankees10 00:25, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Ahhhhhh. That would make so much sense! – Muboshgu (talk) 16:02, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I see in the Carthage44 blockage case that Redmen44 was mentioned as a potential sock, but nothing was done based on AGF. Perhaps we should revisit that. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:10, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm surprised he's gotten away with this for so long.--Yankees10 17:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

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List of African-American United States Representatives
I wanted to ask for your input on the List of African-American United States Representatives article. I recently made alot of changes to it. It should resemble the List of African-American United States Senators article. Also, check out the talk page. Thanks.

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About cuban baseball players who defected from Cuba
I don't know how to edit text or insert new information in wikipedia, but you can help me by adding twelve cuban baseball players that played several years in the cuban baseball series and some of them with the cuban national team, who defected in the 1990's or early 2000's:  Maels Rodriguez, pitcher Francisco Santiesteban, catcher Alexis Cabrejas, outfielder Osmany Estrada, third baseman Jorge Diaz, second baseman Alberto Hernandez, catcher Angel Lopez, catcher Ivan Alvarez, pitcher Juan Carlos Bruzon, outfielder Luis alvarez, first baseman Yobal Dueñas, second baseman Oscar Macias, second baseman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hans74te (talk • contribs) 20:43, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

ITN credit
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GAN of Aaron Loup
I performed all the requested fixes that you mentioned; I apologize for being antsy, but it is my first GAN. ö  Brambleberry   of   RiverClan  14:55, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll be back to check on it, probably tomorrow. I didn't realize you were a first timer, don't worry I'm gentle :) – Muboshgu (talk) 16:09, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Fixed the final few things. ö   Brambleberry   of   RiverClan  17:01, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

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Chad Moeller
With all due respect, I don't mean to be rude or keep this going just because. But even Chad Moeller's wiki says he got a ring. Many other players got rings that way too.

There are many other articles on Google that mention Chad getting a ring. Here's an example. http://mlbreports.com/2012/03/10/moeller/

And there are many other players that have gotten a ring without appearing in the postseason for such teams. In 2011, Arthur Rhodes won a ring with the St. Louis Cardinals, but he was due to receive a ring if the Texas Rangers would've won it, because he played for the Rangers earlier that season. Here's a link to that article. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=sh-henson_arthur_rhodes_world_series_ring_101811

Please review, and let me know if we can agree on letting the World Series record on Chad's page stand.

Thank You.

Luisovaldez (talk) 21:23, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The baseball wikiproject, WP:BASEBALL, has a consensus that to be considered a "World Series champion", one needs to have been on the World Series roster. This is how we handle all pages, including Benjie Molina, who played for both the Giants and Rangers the year they faced off in the World Series. If you want to discuss it, go to WT:BASEBALL for a community-wide discussion. – Muboshgu (talk) 12:11, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

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Hey... I know you have a lot of experience with getting things to the GA stage and i haven't gone through that yet... but I'd like to try to get Clayton Kershaw to that level... Could you give me some advice on what i should do? Or what the first steps are? Thanks. Spanneraol (talk) 18:18, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Glad you're ready to take the plunge. First things first, I suggest reading WP:WIAGA. That'll give you the overview of what needs to be there for a GA. What the Good article criteria are not goes into it a little further. Then read WP:RGA, which talks about how to review an article. Knowing what a reviewer will look for is a good way to be one step ahead on anything that might be problematic.
 * I just took a brief look at Kershaw's page, so this isn't a complete review, but from that first glance I'd say the article looks fairly comprehensive, but that it would benefit from some clean up. Specifically, I see spaces between periods at the end of sentences and references, and one place where there's no space between the reference and the next sentence. The image of him holding the bat should be moved to the right hand side, because people in images should face towards the center of the article. Some references need to be filled in, which includes adding access dates. Checking out the list of contributors, I've shockingly only made 7 edits to the page, and not one since May 2012, so I'd be eligible to review it, and I promise I'd be gentle. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:36, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Muboshgu, on that point, what is the rule for when you can GA review a page? Is there a firm number?  Go  Phightins  !  18:38, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * No firm number that I'm aware of, but the rule of thumb is that the reviewer shouldn't be a major contributor to the article, for obvious reasons. I remember reading somewhere that a potential reviewer should use his/her judgment to decide if it would be proper to review a page. Since I haven't edited Kershaw's page in over a year, and since I don't think any of those edits were too major, I doubt that would be a problem. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:43, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's what I thought. I know User:Zepppep reviewed Jim Thome for me last year, and I thought he had made quite a few edits prior, so I didn't know for sure.  Go  Phightins  !  18:46, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, it might've been okay, depending on the edits, but then again it might not have been. These are my edits to Kershaw's page. I think it's clear that those edits don't make me biased in a review. After all, someone who is knowledgeable on the topic would make for a good reviewer, and disqualifying anyone who has made even a single edit to the page would reduce the reviewer pool considerably. If we wanted to look at a page I've edited a hell of a lot, the conflict of interest becomes pretty clear. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:50, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks for the notes... will probably take me a little while to go through all the refs again... As to adding the access dates.. Does that refer to when they were originally accessed? Cause I didnt put all the refs in the article so i'm not sure... or can they all be todays date? Also, do i need a reference on everything in the "awards & accomplishments" table? Spanneraol (talk) 19:02, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Take your time. The more you do to improve the article before the review, the less there is to fix in the review. There's nothing wrong with accessing them, and then adding today's date as the day you accessed it. I would source every "award & accomplishment". Those should be in the article's body with sources (the same ones), too. Actually some of them should probably just be moved up to the body, like the "shutout and homerun on Opening Day" bit, which is less of an "accomplishment" and more of a statistical oddity. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:21, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yea, that homerun on opening day thing is already in the article... someone else added it to that table but I can remove it. I think most of the awards are already in the article with sources so i can add them to the chart. Also, do i need to source the statements in the intro section? That stuff is expounded upon in the main text.Spanneraol (talk) 19:35, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Generally it's assumed that if it's in the intro, it's in the body, and that's where the source will be. But, if it's something that's likely to be challenged, then a citation would help. MOS:LEAD talks more about how to balance that. I'm sure you've read some of the WP:MOS guidelines before, but it'd be a good idea to reread them. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:41, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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Freddie Lindstrom
On 17 Aug 2012 you deleted Legacy changes re Freddie Lindstrom, saying if there were questions with footnotes to contact the sources. I did that with the following results: Sabermetrician Jay Jaffe (Baseball Prospectus, Mar 6 2013)concedes Frank Frisch footnote is in error since Frisch died in 1973, three years before Lindstrom's induction. He offers no proof other than coincidence that Bill Terry and others on the Hall of Fame veterans committee voted in so-called "cronies." Dick Young's use of the word was a blanket indictment of the whole committee, not Frisch and Terry. Clark Booth (e-mail, Oct 5, 2012) says he has always argued for more HOF members, not fewer, and that "His (Freddie's) enshrinement is much deserved and I am very pleased for you." Others who applauded Lindstrom's induction include several prominent baseball writers at the time such as Hall of Fame charter member Red Smith (NY Times), Bob Broeg (Sporting News), Lou O'Neill (Long Island Press) and Frank True (Sarasota Herald-Tribune)among others whose newspaper clippings I have for your consideration. As for Bill James, several attempts to contact him have failed. Since it seems only fair to document why James calls Lindstrom "the worst third baseman" in the Hall, maybe it should at least be added something like "Based on a Sabermetrics statistical analysis" or "Because of Lindstrom's relatively short career at third" or some other explanation based on a factual analysis rather than unsupported opinion. As they stand, the footnotes involved simply are either incorrect or unsubstantiated. Surely these entries can be rewritten to conform to a more even-handed description of Lindstrom's career and accomplishments. I would like to do that but fear you will again simply delete the changes. Please let me know how they can be made. Thanks 184.44.4.68 (talk) 20:49, 30 August 2013 (UTC).

DYK for Dylan Covey
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DYK for Cal McLish
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Chris Cates
He's been retired since 2011. I say the article should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.54.242.28 (talk) 12:51, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The article was nominated for deletion in April, and the consensus of the discussion was not to delete the article. His having retired in 2011 is irrelevant. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:49, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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John Thomas Young (Baseball)
Thanks Muboshgu. I appreciate the resources. How do I cite/reference when the source is the actual person?

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John Thomas Young (Baseball)
Thanks Muboshgu. I appreciate the resources. Still trying to learn how to do references when the source is the actual person.

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More help with Jim DeMint
Hi Muboshgu. A few months ago you helped me with an update to the Jim DeMint article and I was wondering if you might be willing to look at another request I left on the talk page. I've rewritten the Political positions section, which is marked with a few tags saying the section needs clean up. Again, I'm an employee of The Heritage Foundation, where DeMint is the president, so I don't think I should add the revision myself. If you have a few minutes would you be willing to look at what I wrote? It's on the talk page. Thanks! Thurmant (talk) 17:13, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
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DYK for Jeff Hoffman
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Carerelief
Anyway to report carerelief? There is definitely some type of personal vendetta hear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PrimeTimePR (talk • contribs) 17:45, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
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Reaching out a hand
Hi. I think we have both kind of misunderstood each other. And I think we are both strong minded people. My nom on Anna Lindh was probably "not appropriate" not because of the fact that it is 11 September but because it is apparently not ITN ready really. I will work on it and hopefully it will be OTD ready for 2014 :) I am reaching out a hand here so we do not look like two fighting children:) We do not have to be "Wiki friends" but I feel we do not need to have animosity towards each other either. Talkback me...Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 19:45, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the message. This morning was a misunderstanding, which can happen. I get a little sensitive about the "American bias" thing, which can be true at times, but I think it gets overblown. It would've been better if I had not brought up something American, which was just meant for context. I have no animosity towards you. You make good contributions and I see no reason why we shouldn't be wikifriends. Good luck with the OTD! – Muboshgu (talk) 22:35, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * That is perfectly fine. Good to hear from you and now the situation has been resolved. Oh, thank you!--BabbaQ (talk) 23:33, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

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Billy Martin
Thanks for the catch. I thought I had added the citation. I've re-added the text with the citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Metalfan1976 (talk • contribs) 18:25, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

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I can't believe you have authored 852 articles (which managed to survive the new pages patrol?)...it's impressive! What are the secrets to your success? Do you start with stubs and gradually build them up to full articles? Or devote a lot of time to create a complete article, one at a time? Liz Read! Talk! 20:48, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * There are people with many more articles created than I. I work on what I know, which is mostly baseball and US politics, so when I see a new person or event, I go for the stub. And in cases where there is enough information available, I'll work it up to GA. A few of the articles I've created are GAs, though most are probably stub or start. – Muboshgu (talk) 10:36, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I can't believe there are Editors with more articles they've created...they must have joined Wikipedia in the early years or be very focused in their work. I'll admit that I've yet to create an article, occupying my time with Wikignome tasks instead. It seems like the new pages patrol is very zealous in deleting new articles and I find that intimidating. I've seen my share of new editors work on articles that are quickly deleted and read their exasperation in their Talk Page comments.
 * Perhaps if I start a new article as a stub, it'll pass through that gauntlet and then I can build it up? There is much work to be done in my field (social sciences) but the thought of spending hours crafting an article only to have it deleted has me stalled.
 * Oh, thanks for replying to my comment which kind of came out of the blue! Liz  Read! Talk! 11:12, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
 * There are currently 515 editors who have created more articles than I. A lot of it is tenure. I've been editing since 2007. I started off as a Wikignome, but moved on to article creations as well as I figured out what I was doing, and as I became more certain of notability requirements. I encourage you to try creating articles on notable subjects. You just have to be sure the subject meets WP:GNG or the specific social science notability guideline. (If there is one? I have an advanced social science degree but don't really like editing in the area of my profession.) You might want to go to WP:AFC for initial help with your first article. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:08, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the encouragement. The Sociology section of Wikipedia is kind of a mess, very incomplete and spotty compared to the physical and natural sciences. I'll confess that it is easier for me to write a 30 page paper on a topic than to write 5-10 paragraphs trying to sum up all perspectives on a theoretical concept. Another obstacle is that I have a pretty substantial library but I've recently moved and it is all boxed up in the basement right now. It seems like, again and again, I see articles deleted for a lack of sufficient references and citations so I know that is critical.
 * Right now, I'm Wikignoming. I've been editing, on and off (mostly off) since 2007 and only recently found myself with some extra time to spend working on Wikipedia. I also spend some time on more subject-specific Wikia sites but I've actually found more instances there of the smaller sites being dominated by a small group of Admins (and often, there is only one, powerful Admin). The sheer size of Wikipedia means that there is more of a diversity of subject matter, opinion and approaches as long as one works within the 5 Pillars and policy guidelines.
 * But I realize that the heart of WP is article creation so I'd like to eventually move into that area. Thanks for the advice! Liz  <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 13:50, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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 * Thank you! I do think that article turned out to be one of my better works. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:06, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

"Murderers' Row swap"?
Hey Muboshgu. I've nominated Pat Collins for GAN, and I see you've done the same with fellow Murderers' Row member Herb Pennock. Do you think there'll be too much COI if we did a "Murderers' Row swap" (me reviewing Pennock and you doing Collins)? Cheers! —Bloom6132 (talk) 21:40, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
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I noticed that the information I added (which took a great deal of time to add) for Billy Martin has been removed, as was the book I cited. This leads to my next two questions:

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Everything that was stated was properly sourced and true. What in particular do you object to? I invite you to edit what was inserted instead of deleting. I didn't think censorship was what Wikipedia stood for. There is no mention of de Blasio's stance on charter schools which is a very important issue in the mayoralty race. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CreativeAngel (talk • contribs) 14:25, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * This is not censorship. Wikipedia has policies, such as NPOV, which your edit does not follow. I explained the problem with your edit on Talk:Bill de Blasio. I didn't have a chance to respond to you before you readded the problematic text. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:27, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

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This article is on my permanent watch list because John D'Acquisto comes back and edits it about once every 3-6 months and most of what he does is unconstructive. His last edits were a actual cut and paste of this article but I didn't learn about the copyright violation till after my reversion. I'm going to put back the link to the SABR article in the external sections...William 22:13, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
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Muboshgu, I took your suggestion and GA nominated the Wacha article. Thanks for the reworking on the lead – it runs a lot smoother. When I first expanded it I wasn't sure how much would be sufficient; it also did not occur to me right away it should have been a little less choppy. I'm not sure how to credit other contributors for a GAN; if necessary, what would be the procedure? Also, is it helpful to directly request of other editors for their input to get the article reviewed? Thank you and buenos días. Elcid.ruderico (talk) 22:48, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
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