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Brandon Wilds
You removed my source before I finished. Toeknee44 (talk) 21:33, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I didn't remove a source, you didn't add one. All edits should be made with a source. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:52, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Deleted Edits
Hi. I made changes to a wikipedia article today and all of my work has been deleted. I restored it and just got an email again that it's all been deleted. I would like to get it restored. I am working in conjunction with Ron Slotin, who the page is about, and am distressed that everything has been deleted. I did make some meaningless changes which led to this but will not do that again. The entire article however was accurate. Please let me know how I can restore it.

Thank you,

Lauren Laurenmen (talk) 02:32, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 * As I mentioned in the edit summary when I undid your edit, there were problems with your contribution. First, much of the language did not conform to a neutral point of view, such as "Slotin has extensive business experience" and "Slotin led the fight". Also, much of your edits was sourced to Slotin's campaign site, which is not acceptable for point of view concerns. Reliable sources should be independent of the subject. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:27, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

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Yorman Landa page
Sorry. I did not know that the article had already been created and deleted. Apologies,

Dylan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cricketer993 (talk • contribs) 02:45, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It's okay. It was an honest mistake. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:56, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Bias
Interesting discussion yesterday, the right result of course. In the meantime, just today, a car bomb killed 43 in Syria so I was hoping you'd be making good with your suggestion that more of these kinds of regular bombing articles from Syria is nominated at ITNC. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:06, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * The wrong decision was reached. The shooter was a mentally ill veteran of the Iraq War, that should've been plenty. Maybe I'll propose that ITN rename itself "ITN except for American mass shootings" so we can at least be honest about it. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:19, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, just because the shooter was mentally ill, I would go so far as to suggest that most of the shooters in the US (and around the world) are mentally ill, apart from those deliberately engaged in terrorism which they seem to think gives them a free pass to Nirvana. In any case, please make good with your suggestion, and I look forward to seeing the Syria car-bombing at ITNC, after all, such a gratuitous and bloody event, with ten times the death count should be considered, right?  Or is it just because they're Syrians?  The Rambling Man (talk) 19:22, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I said I'd support those nominations, I didn't say I'd nominate them myself. I see there's no article for it. That is systemic bias. You're so concerned with the systemic bias of not enough Middle East violence noms, go for it. I'm concerned about the systemic bias totally disqualifying an entire subject of stories as routine, even when their news coverage proves it's not routine. Plus there's the whole difference of Syria being a war zone and Fort Lauderdale not being in one. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:24, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, just take issue with your last point, the US is a warzone, with hundreds of mass shootings a year, tens of thousands of people killed by firearms. Simple.  A warzone.  Compare it the UK or Australia or New Zealand or Canada or Japan or some other first world country if you dare.  The Rambling Man (talk) 21:27, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * War zones are where there is war. Mass shootings in the United States are being disregarded as a whole, unless it's an Islamic shooter. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:35, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * False claim, as already demonstrated. 2012 Aurora shooting, 2009 Fort Hood shooting, 2011 Tucson shooting were posted as notable etc etc.  While we then have 2012 Seattle cafe shooting spree and 2012 Minneapolis workplace shooting and 2012 Azana Spa shootings and Oikos University shooting etc etc etc which weren't.  Many of the latter were more significant than this one.  America is at war, with itself.  There are very few first world countries which have so many firearm-related deaths and multiple shootings and lone wolf incidents.  Can you name another?  English-language Wikipedia editors are now more-than tired of hearing about these repeated internal problems of the US, as described by others (and backed up by our own article on Mass shooting) 374 incidents last year, so one per day is legitimate.  Just some of them take place on Junk Street, Junk County, Junkville.  They're all the same though, unless something seriously differentiates them, and in this case, an army vet going postal, doesn't.  At an airport?  Well that would have been interesting if it wasn't for the absurdity that you can check guns into baggage.  It's about time the US looked strongly at themselves in this regard and stop the NRA and Trump, but it's not going to happen.  I sympathise, you live in an incredibly violent country and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.  In the UK we've had three "mass shootings" in about 30 years.  You've had three mass shootings in the last three days.  Something's different, something's not right.  Your claim that we'd disregard it as a whole is spot on, it's business as usual.  If it's terrorism, then it's a different matter, a vet being indoctrinated into Daesh etc, like Homeland.  That would be a story worth posting.  And if it transpires that's the case, I'm fully in support.  In the meantime, "American with legally obtained guns shoots other Americans who might have legally obtained guns" is of no interest to anyone outside the microcosm of the US I'm afraid.  P.S. You need to disambiguate Dan Jennings on your user page. You're welcome! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:00, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

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Left images
You wrote: "...left flush images cannot lead a section per WP:MOS..." I did not know that and thought otherwise. I'm looking at Manual of Style/Images and cannot find where it says that. Could you please help? Many thanks. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:08, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for asking, because now that you mention it I don't see it either. It was there, but has been removed? I recall it being an issue of accessibility, but it's not listed at Manual_of_Style/Accessibility. I need to look into this, maybe I'm remembering a rule that is moot. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:14, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, my friend. Please let me know if you have new info on this. I've been making articles for years with section-top-left images. :) Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:52, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It was in the instructions, arguing that a reader wants to see text under a header, not search somewhere on the right where to continue reading. I still try to avoid it, rather have a short paragraph and then a left image. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * That's the way I prefer to do it, too. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:55, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, Gerda, you make a very good point there. I think I will avoid such left images in the future. I actually moved an image left here because of how the subject is facing and how the above image encroached into the Pussyhat section. Do you think I should revert? Please feel free to do so if you think it best. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:23, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't revert that one, because of the facing, but perhaps place it with the second sentence, a bit smaller if needed, or shorter caption (repeats pretty much what we see anyway). Do we need the image on the right above it. It "squeezes" the text on my screen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:34, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. If you wish to make image edits, please do as you see fit. I'm reluctant to discuss at this talk page what should be done at that article because it excludes others. So, as you wish. All the best, and nice to hear from you, Gerda. I hope you are well and happy. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:42, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I tried ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:23, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I like it! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:39, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

My edit
Yeah, that was a mistake, sorry ! &#408;&#415;  S&#294;  18:27, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * That's okay! It happens. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:29, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Question about article quality
Hi Muboshgu! I've been doing some work on expanding Mike Hollimon and I wanted to get some feedback on how to tell whether or not the article should still be considered a stub. Since you are an expert on writing baseball articles, I'd appreciate it if you or one of your talk page stalkers could weigh in. Also, have I made any glaring mistakes while working on that article? Thanks, Lepricavark (talk) 23:25, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I bumped it up to Start class. Sometimes it's a difficult call, but in this case I think it's definitely no longer a stub. I think this is a really commendable effort for a subject that played only 11 MLB games. I do notice that it's largely a retelling of season statistics; it would be interesting to see if we could find some sources on his playing style, what the scouts said about him, maybe even personal life or his post-baseball career. Not an easy task though... these "cup of coffee" players just don't get much coverage. EricEnfermero (Talk) 03:37, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Eric. I do intend to work on it more at some point in the near future, and I hope I'll be able to find some stuff along the lines of what you mentioned. Lepricavark (talk) 03:45, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * One of the main benchmarks I use is 1,500 characters of prose. That is the bare minimum required for WP:DYK, and it seems to be about the right amount to differentiate a stub that only conveys why the subject is notable from a start article that provides a little bit more info. Even that is a rough guideline. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:56, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll try to remember that benchmark. I suppose it would be nice to take Hollimon to DYK, but I doubt if there's enough information about him to make it work. Lepricavark (talk) 04:53, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

DYK for 2017 College Football Playoff National Championship
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DYK for Clarence B. Randall
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they have seriously just agreed as of 20 minutes ago and have signed him to a contract pending a physical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.26.71 (talk) 20:45, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
 * "Pending a physical" is the key phrase. Until it's passed, the deal is agreed to, not signed. Which means it hasn't taken place and could fall through. Per WP:CRYSTAL, we don't add it yet. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:50, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

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Sorry, you're right re this edit. I thought there were a lot more barereflinks. My bad. Yours, Quis separabit?  02:02, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

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Yankees Roster - Matt Holliday
Before you revert me again, I'd like to know why you say we MUST stick to MLB.com, when they've proven to be at least slightly inaccurate in the past, and the team's own roster sent to the media lists Holliday as a DH. Almost none of the uniform numbers are on MLB.com, yet we use them. MLB.com has always had discrepancies in my past research on the Yankees roster, but usually they're minor. This really isn't minor. It is my belief that, in all sports situations, the information given directly by the team or media members with direct access to the team must supersede any site that is not run directly by the team. RevanFan (talk) 03:14, 15 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Support for my argument. https://twitter.com/BryanHoch/status/831545413870166022 RevanFan (talk) 03:15, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Well first off, you shouldn't have reverted me because the cycle is "bold, revert, discuss", not "bold, revert, revert, discuss". It's a way of standardizing these templates, to only use MLB.com. After all, that sheet in the photo lists Austin and Refsnyder as "INF/OF", so MLB.com is useful in telling us which category to put them in. As for uniform numbers, I don't pay much attention to what they are or who's adding them based on what. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:03, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I understand you want a way of standardizing that. It's a fine goal. But this information comes from the team. I feel it should be 1. Info from the team and its media coverage, and 2. Info from MLB.com. For instance, take the roster handed out by the team and apply that, and use MLB.com for players whose positions are unclear or are split. I hope you're seeing where I'm coming from, and I hope the information gathered from the team's spring training media list will be kept on the template. I apologize for reverting the edit out of turn, by the way. I mostly edit the Dallas Cowboys roster template, and I'm pretty much one of two people who edits it. Almost all of my reverts over there are vandalism. Never a difference of opinion on source material. RevanFan (talk) 05:56, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to fight you on this, because I think it's trivial. If you want to discuss this further, maybe we should address the community at WT:BASEBALL. It's been our consensus there to use the one official source for the sake of uniformity. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:32, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Jon Ossoff
Hello, Muboshgu. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Jon Ossoff, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:


 * 1) edit the page
 * 2) remove the text that looks like this:
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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

 Onel 5969  TT me 16:15, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Totally understand, but I think it should be returned to the redirect it was in my first edit. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:30, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi. I totally agree. Have done just that. Lazy on my part, didn't see that there was a valid target. Onel 5969  TT me 16:33, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * That's okay! Totally understandable, most non-notable new articles don't have a valid redirect target. Thanks! – Muboshgu (talk) 16:40, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

User talk pages
The message I left (directed to the wrong user, btw) wasn't about the article content, but about the personal attacks the editor had experienced. I was just offering reassurance so he wouldn't be discouraged by the childish sniping which was motivated by bias. A user talk page is the correct avenue for such a comment. I also wasn't trying to "sway" the editor since it was his own viewpoint I was supporting. Please assume good faith and don't make dumb accusations. Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_has_annoying_username)  (talk)  (contribs) 17:42, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Portal:Baseball/Anniversaries
Is this something that was ever used on the main portal page? Most of the dates are redlinks. If I was able to sufficiently improve upon this and create pages for the missing dates, do you think we would be able to find a place for this on the main portal page? Lepricavark (talk) 16:55, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know that it ever was used, but there's no reason not to use it if we fill in all the dates. We can make room somewhere. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:31, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * That seems reasonable. That being said, I took a closer look at the some of the pages that are filled in and they are unnecessarily long (and full of improper linking). Perhaps a better idea would be to highlight a handful of notable events (maybe limit it to 5 events and 5 notable births) for each day. Otherwise, it will be overwhelming to create and/or maintain a page for every single day. Also, fitting huge pages on the main portal would be difficult. I'm willing to take on such a smaller-scale project. Lepricavark (talk) 18:20, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * As an example, check out my re-sizing at Portal:Baseball/Anniversaries/March 1. Lepricavark (talk) 20:40, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Censorship - Executive Order 13769
Please explain why you deleted the following content from the Executive Order 13769 article. The article is biased and the content was added to make it more balanced. There are good arguments for and against Executive Order 13769. Simply deleting arguments you don't agree with is inappropriate. It's better if reader are informed of both side of any dispute. I think the context of the Executive Order is relevant. WSDavitt (talk) 22:57, 21 February 2017 (UTC)


 * The order was made in response to multiple terrorist attacks in the United States, Canada and western Europe during the past two decades and the perceived failure to adequately vet immigrants and refugees. These attacks include the September 11 Attacks, Boston marathon bombing, 2016 Nice attack, Charlie Hebdo shooting, 2014 shootings at Parliament Hill, Ottawa, November 2015 Paris attacks and 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting.  The order was made approximately 8 months after the Orlando nightclub shooting, the deadliest mass shooting in American history with 49 people killed and 53 wounded.
 * Because the order had nothing to do with those attacks. It would be best to continue this discussion on the article's talk page. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:58, 21 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the response. I will move the discussion to the articles talk page. WSDavitt (talk) 23:00, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

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Your message to me, about the category Pence family
Hello Muboshgu,

This is Markvo. I just got a message from you about my category, Pence family. My intent, with that category, and the others families listed in that category, is to create a category list for the families of the U.S. Vice Presidents, or Second families. There is already a such list for the families of the Presidents of the United States and I thought it would be a good and informative idea to do the same for the Vice Presidents.

I realize that the Presidents are more prominent and better known to the general public. But I think that people who are interested in American history and the role of the Vice Presidents would appreciate the information. My intent was good, I hope you understand, and I did not intend to break any rules or standard practices here on Wikipedia. I enjoy reading a lot of articles on this site and also enjoy contributing to it from time to time as well. I am not aware of any rule of this site that my contribution is in violation of, but please let me know if I am. If I am not, I would respectfully ask and greatly appreciate that the category be allowed to stay on Wikipedia, so that those who want to read it and use it will be allowed to do so in the future. Thank you and please feel free to send me another message about this subject if you wish.

Sincerely,

Markvo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markvo (talk • contribs) 17:45, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I understand that, but I don't think that category meets Wikipedia's standards on categorization, specifically WP:SMALLCAT. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:54, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Your message to me, about the category Pence family
Hello again. I just checked out that link you sent me to, SmallCat. It says right in it's description that articles pertaining to holders of a notable political office may be kept, even if only a small number of articles exist presently. Mike Pence currently holds the office of Vice President of the United States. I would consider that a notable office for sure. And as his wife, Karen Pence is the Second Lady of the United States. Their category together (Pence family) should therefore be kept and should be included in the larger category I have included it in (Second Families of the United States) as well, in my opinion.

Thank you,

Markvo Markvo (talk) 18:27, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't see "realistic potential for growth" there. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:47, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

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And so ends the first round of the competition, with 4 points required to qualify for round 2. It would have been 5 points, but when a late entrant was permitted to join the contest in February, a promise was made that his inclusion would not result in the exclusion of any other competitor. To achieve this, the six entrants that had the lowest positive score of 4 points have been added to the 64 people who otherwise would have qualified. As a result, some of the groups have nine contestants rather than eight. Our top four scorers in round 1 were:


 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Cas Liber, last year's winner, led the field with two featured articles on birds and a total score of 674.
 * 🇪🇺 Iry-Hor, a WikiCup newcomer, came next with a featured article, a good article and a tally of 282 bonus points for a score of 517. All these points came from the article Nyuserre Ini, an Ancient Egyptian pharaoh,
 * 🇯🇵 1989, another WikiCup newcomer, was in joint third place at 240. 1989 has claimed points for two featured lists and one good article relating to anime and comedy series, all of which were awarded bonus points.
 * Peacemaker67 shared third place with five good articles and thirteen good article reviews, mostly on naval vessels. He is also new to the competition.

The largest number of DYKs have been submitted by Vivvt and The C of E, who each claimed for seven, and MBlaze Lightning achieved eight articles at ITN. Carbrera and Peacemaker67 each claimed for five GAs and Krishna Chaitanya Velaga was well out in front for GARs, having reviewed 32. No featured pictures, featured topics or good topics yet, but we have achieved three featured articles and a splendid total of fifty good articles.

So, on to the second round. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 1 but before the start of round 2 can be claimed in round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is a good article candidate, a featured process, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 13:52, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Congressional Cannabis Caucus
Mifter (talk) 12:02, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

4th GA Cup - The Final
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Congrats on Cannabis Caucus DYK! Invite to 420 Collaboration
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Thanks for heads up on Matt Weiters reversion
Thanks for clarifying on your reversion of my edit to Matt Weiters' page. You were right that the 2-year Nats deal wasn't technically official at that point, despite the Washington Post report on Feb 22. I see the deal's been finalized and formally added to the page now, so that works for me.

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DSL Orioles
Today the Orioles announced that they are going with one DSL team instead of two. Should we delete the second roster template or redirect it to Template:Dominican Summer League Orioles roster. They may expand in the future back to two teams but who knows? Thanks for your input. NYGiantsfan1991 (talk) 18:54, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

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Do I need sources?
Hello Muboshgu, You recently blocked me from editing some wiki pages, even though my contributions are laced in facts. There may be a difference in narrative then you may like but with knowledge does not discriminate. In order to tastefully edit some pages, would it help if I citied my sources? I do have to work on my citation in sandbox. Been having some issues with that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justice WarriorUltimate (talk • contribs) 23:50, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Yankees
Since I haven't been around Wiki for the past couple spring trainings, I figured I'd ask you since I forgot. The Yanks optioned two players this morning. Should we have the asterisk next their names on the 40-man roster? Or are we waiting until camp breaks? http://m.yankees.mlb.com/roster/transactions/ Happy to be back on days at work again so I can help out! Kjscotte34 (talk) 16:50, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Welcome back. Yep use the asterisk. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:42, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

2017 World Baseball Classic rosters
Regarding this edit, is there no acceptable way to count up the number of players on each team's roster that play in various leagues? It seems to me that this information is helpful for the reader to put the tournament results into context. The affiliations are no more unsourced than everything else in the page; it's only the fact that I counted them that could be called "unsourced." Also, while it's true that there is no official ranking of leagues by strength in baseball, like there is in other sports like soccer, it still seems that the text you deleted covered the strongest leagues (not just in the U.S.) and that any deficiencies could have been fixed. I'm interested to know more about what you think. --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 06:27, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * It can be fixed, but it appeared to me too broken to keep. The page is indeed lacking in sources. MLB is the strongest league, but the others weren't given their due in the way it was written. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:18, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

WBC finals
Note: There's also articles 2006 World Baseball Classic Final, 2009 World Baseball Classic Final and 2013 World Baseball Classic Final. You're free to re-direct those to the corresponding articles as well. GoodDay (talk) 20:38, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I think I will. They're redundant. Better to treat the championship round like a World Series. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:40, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, they're very basically the same topics. GoodDay (talk) 20:41, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

children's school
I thought it would be relevant, but since you removed it, I agree. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 06:42, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Re: James Shields
Ahem, excuse me? He DID give up a home run to Bartolo Colon. I even cited a source. How does my truthful edit constitute vandalism? If anything yours does. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.244.138.190 (talk) 01:36, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * It's not what he's "best known for". Your edit is not constructive. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:39, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

McCuthen Image
Why did you just entirely dismiss my McCuthen image? I'm a community member of for 12 years - while Keith Allison takes great photos, and has a $5,000 camera to do so, I don't think my McCuthen image is *that* bad. Plus, he's smiling in this one. I don't revert any of your work, so can you please offer me some my contributions some more respect? Thank you, Terry Foote (talk) 13:30, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Don't take it personally that Keith Allison takes some of the best baseball pictures we have. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:17, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * No, I don't. I did some digging on Flickr and found out he has a $5K Nikon.  I think he's a pro.  The thing is, I love going to games, taking photos, and contributing to Wikipedia.  I hope that counts for something. Plus, I'm proud of that Cutch image - I caught him smiling.  It's a unique photo of him, post dred-lock shearing.  Terry Foote (talk) 15:28, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Keith Allison is definitely professional, which is why his images are so great. We're lucky that he makes them available to us. In hindsight I believe I erred in taking your photo out entirely, rather than moving it into the body. And I will say that I think it looks better at its current size. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:17, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Allison has some outstanding images, especially one of Mike Trout stealing a home run. Thank you for your for your kind words on the Cutch image - but I still think it's infobox worthy :) Terry Foote (talk) 16:35, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

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List of baseball players who defected from Cuba
Hi,, I noticed your revert and your remark: WHY? I have another question, why only add images from certain baseball players? It looks like not everyone is treated in the same way. Imo it is better to have images of "all players" added into the wikitable, the table is there, so why not do what seems logic? Lotje (talk) 11:33, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I should've been more clear. Why put them in the table? It makes the table significantly larger. Not everyone has an image on Wikipedia, and to present one for everybody is overkill. A few representative images help the page but only a few are needed. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:27, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay fine by me, we certainly do not want to overkill... Lotje (talk) 15:28, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

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Hi Muboshgu, why was my edit reverted? Is there a valid, non-political factual reason? If so, please quote/direct me to the Wikipedia policy. Thanks. Mistakefinder (talk) 02:29, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Because we follow WP:NPOV. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:13, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Brockmire
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Yuccie deletion
I cannot create an AFD page for Yuccie. Can you do so instead? Not able to create account currently.

My rationale: ~

Thanks. Appreciate it. 99.246.202.164 (talk) 15:55, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅. ansh 666 19:25, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

thank you. 99.246.202.164 (talk) 02:02, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

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Here's are RS: The second one is actually cited in the article. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 09:39, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * From the headlines, "could swing", "fears" ... all opinion. We won't know until Sunday night, if at all. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:48, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I will add those references to the discussion if it gets re-opened. Sorry I was a bit curt. I think your concern was in good faith.Zigzig20s (talk) 00:49, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Look, even President Trump agrees!Zigzig20s (talk) 04:09, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Trump never talks out of his ass. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:48, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Hunter Greene (baseball) for deletion
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 * I've withdrawn the nomination. I searched for Hunter Green, another baseball player, rather than Greene. Greene does have enough press coverage. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:50, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
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