User talk:MuchoSandwich

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Proposed deletion of Benjamin H. Bratton


The article Benjamin H. Bratton has been proposed for deletion because, under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. &mdash;  Fιηεmαηη  (talk) 21:19, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Status and Advice
I did some work on this also. The relevant standard is WP:PROF, and, based on the publication record, I do not think he meets it. You will need to show him an authority in his subject, and this normally requires an extensive citation record--looking quickly at Google Scholar, I don't think it's present. As a rough guide, we only rarely keep articles on Associate Professors. You can't rely on his notability as director of the center if the center is not clearly notable. A possible direction might  be   notability as  Director of the Advanced Strategies Group at Yahoo!, if there are good references about it in any published sources.

But the article gives me the sense of being taken from a previous write-up--like a program web page. That won't work-- even if you give us permission according to WP:DCM, the tone will not be encyclopedic and the material will not be suitable. As below, it will almost certainly end up at AfD, & if it won't hold, it's better withdrawn. I won't decide, but I'm pretty good at predicting. I know this is a discouraging set of things to happen when you start out here, but it's usually better to begin by adding material to existing articles.  DGG ( talk ) 04:39, 26 August 2011 (UTC) .

Reply from Author
Thanks for the advice. I was thinking his work at Yahoo and non-academic work would actually be more interesting. I was his student so I guess I automatically gravitated towards WP:PROF. Big potential for conflict of interest I'm guessing, but I'll try to be careful. I shouldn't have saved this to public space, I'm trying to practice writing and editing Wordpress entries; that's why I took information from his site (with permission) though I see the error in that. This should probably go to my userspace. Thank you DGG. MuchoSandwich (talk) 05:00, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Center for Design and Geopolitics


A tag has been placed on Center for Design and Geopolitics requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. MikeWazowski (talk) 23:50, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Status and Advice
as you requested, as reviewing administrator, I  moved it to User:MuchoSandwich/Center for Design and Geopolitics instead of deleting it. But I need to advise you that on the basis of my experience here, I think you will have considerable difficulty getting an acceptable article out of it--rightly or wrongly, articles on research centers of this sort nowadays most often get deleted after a discussion.

You will need to show notability with references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. The papers being published does not show the notability of the center which held the conference--or indeed of the conference. (we almost never accept articles on individual conferences either).

Remember not to copy from a web site -- first it's a copyright violation, but, even if you give us permission according to WP:DCM, the tone will not be encyclopedic and the material will not be suitable. The article as it stood very much resembled a section of a web page.

Include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the organization and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to those associated with the organization

For further information see our FAQ about business, organizations, and articles like this and also WP:FIRST.

As a general rule, a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it properly with a conflict of interest or as a paid press agent, but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of the organization wishes to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the public might wish to know. If you think you can do it right according to our guidelines, do so, but expect the article to be carefully checked for objectivity. And it is almost certainly going to be nominated for a discussion at WP:AfD-- you might want to see current discussions there to get some idea of the way in which they are handled. I do not want to discourage you, but to urge you to write a proper article if it is possible; if it is not yet possible, please help us by improving our other articles on related topics. If you decide that the article cannot presently meet our standards, you can facilitate matters by placing at the top a line reading :, and it will be quickly deleted.. When you have the necessary material, then try again. In general, we'll delete pages in user space that haven't been worked on in a few weeks or months, and don't show signs of progress to a usable article. If you want me to look at the article again, ask me on my talk page.  DGG ( talk ) 04:06, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

I totally agree. My plan is to add D:GP to each of its contributing member's individual WP pages and forget about this page entirely; this would seem more in line with Wikipedia's standards. I was briefly an intern at D:GP and I am currently off doing completely different work now, so I don't think I have too much a conflict of interest. I am mostly just trying to pick up adding and editing on Wikipedia again by starting with something and some people I know about. I used to have an account here 6 years ago when I was being educated but the email I remember associated with it is now defunct, and I don't remember the user (though it was probably the same as/similar to my current).MuchoSandwich (talk) 04:31, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi!
Hey Mucho. I wanted to stop by and say that you're doing a great job as a new Wikipedian. You seem to be picking things up nicely. If you need any help understanding anything or any help on a page, I'd be happy to help out. You can ask here and I should be able to respond soon. I know all the warning templates and improvement templates being thrown at you may feel overwhelming but they're mostly just a way for editors to help WP on a larger scale and the result can sometimes make interaction seem colder than intended. Again, it looks like you're doing a great job and if you have any questions, feel free to ask. Keep up the good work!  Ol Yeller Talktome 12:01, 31 August 2011 (UTC)