User talk:Muffin of the English/Archives/2020/May

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Due to a busy school year I have had little time to edit, but I plan on being more active in the coming months.

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User:Beshogur

Hi, the Turkish user's edits are not neutral. His edits are directional. In line with the nationalist goals of pantheism. The part I deleted had unreliable and one-sided sources from several unknown authors. Research is also first-hand. The theory of Uralic and Altaic languages ​​has been widely rejected. This is mentioned in the Ural and Altai papers themselves. Bringing them to the end of the article means indirectly pointing out that there is a connection. These are issues that are propagated only in the extravagant assemblies of the Turkish people. The user also removes the Tajik map of Uzbekistan under false pretenses because it exposes the falsehood of pan-Turkic propaganda in Uzbekistan. It is better to monitor his edits.Vitaly ky1 (talk) 23:39, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Would you be able to point me to the article in question? Muffin of the English (talk)
 * I don't have a single edit on Uralic or Altaic languages page. What? Beshogur (talk) 23:42, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I am a bit confused at what you are asking me to do. Muffin of the English (talk)
 * Never mind, please post the above explanation in the talk page, and if after discussion there is consensus to remove the information feel free to undo my revert. Muffin of the English (talk)

Your reverting of my edits to City Shrouded in Shadow
My edits were to remove dubious sources which do not even get the game's title correct, and I replaced them with real sources (the official website). I also removed "this was announced" "that was announced" information under development which is irrelevant to development and is all basic information on the game that is already at the top of the article. My edits were all in good faith your sudden reverting and accusation of "they did not appear constructive" is quite troubling. Please discuss before making such changes. R koiwai (talk) 18:05, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Please explain how Forbes is considered a dubious source, and how the sources you linked are more credible than Forbes. Also, you removed many other sources without any explanation on why they are not credible. When it comes to the title a quick search engine query yields images of the game including articles that reference it as "City Shrouded in Shadow". If you have any further issues with the decision to revert please leave them here.  Muffin of the English (talk)
 * The sources are game blogs that mistranslate the title of the game, when the meaning of the title is obvious to anyone who understands Japanese. Mistranslated titles being widely used is not rare, given how such game blogs reuse content from each other. I edited the article accordingly in regards to the title, and replaced the inappropriate sources with official primary sources which are far more reliable. Please see the article talk page. R koiwai (talk) 18:38, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You have still not responded to why Forbes is unreliable, especially considering the fact that it is not a game blog, but a business-centered news source. Muffin of the English (talk)
 * That was Ollie Barder's blog on Forbes' site, not Forbes itself. And in any case he was one of the people getting the title obviously wrong. And for reference, here is a list of his recent posts. "‘One-Punch Man’ Is Getting A Movie But Does Hollywood Really Get What It Means To Be A Hero Just For Fun?", "There Are Some Very Nice ‘Final Fantasy VII Remake’ Figures Releasing Later This Year". This is not a business-centered news source. R koiwai (talk) 18:44, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It does appear to be under a subcategory, but the URL is still forbes.com. To be honest this is not my area of expertise, so I will refrain from making any more edits or changes to that page,. Instead let editors more knowledgeable then myself in that area fix issues if need be. Best regards, Muffin of the English (talk)
 * I would like to say that I had originally intended on expanding the article significantly, but the constant questioning of everything I did and ignoring of my posts on the article's talk page (not referring solely to you but also the others who did not contribute in any way but to revert my edits and did not reply to any of my messages) has left me very tired and I have decided that I too shall refrain from editing that article any further. R koiwai (talk) 18:55, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I am sorry for the negative experience that you have had. I would recommend asking the other editors who reverted your changes on their talk page instead of on the articles or yours, you are more likely to get a response that way. Muffin of the English (talk)
 * The rest of the discussion has been moved to the admin notice board (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User%3AR_koiwai). Muffin of the English (talk)

I was not vandalising the article, and your accusations of vandalism and refusal to participate in its talk page are very disruptive. R koiwai (talk) 18:39, 10 May 2020 (UTC)|
 * I would like to point out that there was nothing listed in the talk page until AFTER I reverted your edit, and there was good reason to suspect non constructive edits, including removal of citations (one of which was from forbes.com). This topic is also not the place for addressing such issues. Muffin of the English (talk)
 * After your revert, before their's. R koiwai (talk) 19:04, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I have moved this conversation in with the rest of the City Shrouded in Shadow discussion. Muffin of the English (talk)