User talk:MuffledThud/Archives/October 2009

Death Destroyer copyright
I am the vocalist/banjo player for Death Destroyer and I wrote that MySpace profile. Therefore it is NOT a copyvio. --DavidHessen (talk) 22:03, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Could you please have a read of WP:PERMISSION, and provide evidence of your ownership of the copyright?  Then when you re-post the article, it won't get deleted again by one of the admins.  Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 08:40, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Peninsula EvolvIT page
hi can u confirm what I need to change or how I should word the page to stop it being blocked as I dont really understand why it is being blocked. Not got an advertisement in terms of contact details.

Just trying to make a page about the company like the likes of other bristol companies listed here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Companies_based_in_Bristol

Thanks for you help Dave —Preceding unsigned comment added by Penevo (talk • contribs) 11:38, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello, I've just cleaned up the advertising tone that was in the original article. Please have a read of WP:COMPANY for a look at the criteria used for assessing whether a company is notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia, and please also post back here if I can be of any help with this.  Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 11:41, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

I am new to wikipedia and do not know how to use it that well, please let me know if there are any changes i need to make to the articles Josh Flagg, Benjamin Platt, Herman PLatt or Platt Music Corporation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdf3524 (talk • contribs) 13:40, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Josh Flagg etc.
I am so sorry i am computer illiterate, and i still dont understand. For now can you please let me know that Josh Flagg is no longer subject to deletion. Also do you want me to remove my name from the other articles about my grandparents which you referanced, Herman Platt, Benjamin Platt, ect.?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdf3524 (talk • contribs) 13:46, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

sorry
i want to make sure my Josh Flagg page is no longer going to be deleted, i fixed the opening sentence which explains who i am so i dont think it will, is that correct? im so sorry im so bad with computers (Jdf3524 (talk) 13:51, 4 October 2009 (UTC))
 * No worries! And apologies for the delayed reply: I've been busy searching for a missing phone charger. You're most welcome here, and in my opinion your edits to Edith Flagg were very useful, thanks. I'm not a Wikipedia administrator, just a regular editor same as you, and I didn't nominate Josh Flagg for deletion, so that's not up to me.  If Josh Flagg does get deleted, then the links to it from other articles will probably get deleted too.  Please post back here if you have any questions, or for really expert help, you can ask at the forums listed at WP:HELP. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 14:08, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, which edits to Edith Flagg are you reffering to i dont beleive i made any edits. If you dont work for wikipedia, how did we start talking to eachother, lol, i am really confused now. Do you think my Josh Flagg article will be deleted still? My mistake in the begining was not opening the article with who i am, i just started with my family backround, i updated it, so it should be fine now, right? Will wikipedia let me know that more changes need to be made before they delete it or will they jsut delete it right away? I took your advice and removed my name from the other related articles (Jdf3524 (talk) 14:14, 4 October 2009 (UTC))
 * I was talking about these edits to the Edith Flagg article. I don't know whether Josh Flagg will be deleted or not: sometimes the admins will do that instantly (for example if there's a copyright violation involved), other times it can take a day or more, but if the admins decide that it was nominated in error, then the deletion nomination will be declined. Don't remove the deletion notice from the article though, that's frowned upon when done by the article's creator.  For more info on how speedy deletion works, have a read of WP:SPEEDY. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 14:20, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

thank you for your help, can you tell me how to put the deletion notice thing back because i already deleted it, thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdf3524 (talk • contribs) 15:49, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

looks like all the deletion stuff just went away, is this so? im sorry to bother you, but would you mind looking, it looks like the article is now in the clear. (Jdf3524 (talk) 15:54, 4 October 2009 (UTC))
 * Yes I've removed the deletion notice myself, as I can see that you've clearly asserted notability in the article. If another editor wants the article to be deleted then it will need to be discussed first, using WP:PROD or WP:AFD. I won't be proposing deletion, but another editor might, so keep an eye on the article if you don't want it to be deleted.  MuffledThud (talk) 15:59, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

hey there i was hoping you could help me, another editor removed all my articles even though all the referances are there. if you google archive the peoplei wrote about, all the info is there, so i dont know why this editor removed everything. what should i do? im so friustrated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdf3524 (talk • contribs) 04:05, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll try to help if I can. Josh Flagg is still up. According to the deletion log, A Simple Girl: Stories my Grandmother Told Me was deleted because it was written like advertising, so you could always recreate it describing it using neutral language that doesn't sound like an ad, and showing how it's notable as described in WP:Notability (books), with some WP:Reliable sources backing it up. Deletion of Edith Flagg is being discussed, but it hasn't been deleted yet.  Benjamin Platt needs reliable sources.  Marjorie and Herman Platt Art Gallery got merged into another article, since at the moment the article's short enough that it can be covered as a section of American Jewish University. What kind of help were you looking for? MuffledThud (talk) 21:23, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Lifetime
Hi, thanks for adding to Otto Zacharias. You also changed the defaultsort template to lifetime, but Smackbot came along and changed it back, so you may be wasting your time with that one! - Fayenatic (talk) 12:37, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Why yes, so it has. And as it turns out, this is a well-known feature of Smackbot: see Template talk:Lifetime. :) I had no idea that Lifetime was a controversial template, so I'll hold fire for a while until consensus is reached. Thanks for pointing it out.  MuffledThud (talk) 21:13, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

My Article {Dar Al Arkan Real Estate} has been deleted \ Speedy Deletion
Dear MuffledThud

Thank you for your kind note,

And many thanks for eveybody that works on this fantastic encyclopedia. that i used to get my knowledge from it since far time ago,

I'm sending you this massage regarding my Article that has been deleted "speedy deletion" Article Subject was: Dar Al Arkan Real Estate

Actually, As you noticed that i was trying to post this Article that talks about Dar Al Arkan Real Estate Development Company, and i really sepnt alot of time on it to represent it in a good way, suddenly I surprised by the speedy deletion command on it, However I read alot about how to post an article in proper ways and I read alot from the links that I found in your massege and from the help page,

So I fugured out that my wrong step that i did was in posting the Subject mentioning the category path of this thing" Real Estate " because it might look like an Advertinsing about the company, So i'll consider this as a mistake and I will modify it, so now i'd be highly appreciated if you can advise me what else mistakes that i did in the article ?..in order to avoid any next deletation, actually the article talks about a real state company and it calls Dar Al Arkan it's Based in Saudi Arabia, and its one of the Biggest Real Estate Companies in middle East, I dont mean to make it as an Advetising or anything else, I want to post it as its a natural article, since I noticed such real Estate companies from the middle east that listed in Wikipedia, for example : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emaar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_Holding

So agian i will be appreciated if you can tell me what else i can do in my article in order to be listed on Wikipedia

Thanks and best regards

BandarSarBandarSar (talk) 12:08, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hello BandarSar, I've started a stub article for the company: Dar Al-Arkan Real Estate. Please have a read of WP:COI, WP:COPYRIGHT and WP:SPAM before adding to it.  Good luck! MuffledThud (talk) 12:27, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

This is awesome!

Thanks for your fast response and cooperation,

BandarSarBandarSar (talk) 12:52, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy to help! MuffledThud (talk) 13:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

you are such a great advisor!

Glad to coordinate with you,

well, i read the articles that you sent regarding the spamming, copy rights and COI, actually i got a lot of information overther, the content that i'm welling to add for Dar Al-Arkan Real Estate doesnt match any spamming, and wont violate any rights but even though i'm worried to face the deleation case again! however the content that i have will include such as:
 * Other projects of Dar Al-Arkan Real Estate
 * The history and Ownership of this company
 * Summary of Key Stages of Dar Al-Arkan’s Development

( including some reffrence for the above points )

So do you think such information will drive me to the deletation case please advise with your input since i'm realy excited to add and create usefull articles

Regards

BandarSar (talk) 14:29, 17 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello BandarSar, and thank you for those kind words. I think you should go ahead and add that information, it sounds useful and informative. Just ensure that it's written like an encyclopedia entry rather than an advertisement, and that it has references from WP:RS, and so on. If you put something in there that shouldn't be, like copyrighted material or something that sounds like advertising, another editor will come along and change it, but I doubt that the whole article will be deleted.  Good luck! MuffledThud (talk) 08:16, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

dear Muffled thank you for your support actually i have a Q, and need your input,

how i can make brief profile for any article i write ? what i mean how i could create that box that use to be on the left side and contains: Image of the Article Type Founded Headquarters Industry Website

thank ou in advance for your support

BandarSar (talk) 13:28, 24 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello BandarSar, the box that you're talking about is called an Infobox. There are many types to choose from (see Category:Infobox templates), but to get you started I've just added a company infobox to Dar Al-Arkan Real Estate with the few bits of information I know.  To learn more about how to add info to that infobox, have a read of the documentation at Template:Infobox company.  MuffledThud (talk) 13:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Robin tilbrook deleted Why?
Why has this been deleted after i worked hard on it?

Lifeontheedge (talk) 12:52, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Robin Tilbrook (Leader) is still up as I'm write this. I've proposed it for speedy deletion because it appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion: see Articles for deletion/Robin Tilbrook. I've posted on your talk page about this, but if you have any more questions about it or want some help putting it right, then please ask away.  Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 13:27, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Out of this World (California Museum Exhibit)
I just received a message that said that I was using copyrighted material, which I suppose I am technically speaking. However, I work in the marketing dept at the California Museum. How can I avoid this problem in the future? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CMFHWA (talk • contribs)
 * Hello, there's information on how to handle copyright issues at Copyright_FAQ. If you have any more questions, please ask, and I'll try to point you at the answers.  Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 17:55, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of Adel Alroumi
Dear MuffledThud,May you please delete the article right away if you believe the content is not suitable for wikipedia. Thankyou Creator of the article Kuwait78 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuwait78 (talk • contribs) 14:13, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hello Kuwait78, I'm not an administrator so I don't delete anything: it's up to the deletion discussion at Articles for deletion/Adel Al-Roumi to decide whether or not it should be deleted by the admins. Please add your comments and info to the discussion: I may have nominated it in error.  Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 14:26, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

cat
Ta — cygnis insignis 08:56, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

adel al-roumi
Dear MuffledThud, I have updated the article and updated all the links to address the concerns given. When can the deletion nomination be removed ? or is there any other things i have to address to remove the nomination. Thanks ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuwait78 (talk • contribs) 13:53, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Have a read of WP:BIO. So far the references given in the article show is that the subject was a senior executive in some notable companies, but that doesn't necessarily make a subject notable. Also, only the reference from the Kuwait Times is a secondary source, as described in WP:RS.  I realise that secondary sources about a Kuwaiti may be difficult to find in English, but that's what the English version of Wikipedia requires.  I'd definitely recommend that you post comments at Articles for deletion/Adel Al-Roumi on why you think the article should be kept.  At some point an administrator will decide whether there's a consensus for keeping or deleting, but I'm not an administrator myself.  Good luck! MuffledThud (talk) 16:31, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Dear MuffledThud, Thank you for your response and assistance and guidance. There exist many external links i just added that according to WP:RS applies as a secondary source. It also proves that the subject of the article is notable in Kuwait as he is constantly mentioned in press releases monthly and constantly meets leader heads in Kuwait, as posted in several of the external links in the article. In addition to the information posted in the article, he also served in several board member positions in internationally renowned banks and companies.The subject clearly satisfies several of the conditions posted in WP:BIO According to WP:BIOa subject is qualified if "The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by their peers or successors" and if "The topic of an article should be notable, or "worthy of notice"; that is, "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded." Being head of the Parternship Technical Bureau, that as cited in many notable articles and releases such as http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidv52n38-3NC09/Kuwait%20Moves%20Towards%20Water%2FPower%20Privatization%20Through%20First%20IWPP/ The partnership technical bureau is a newly established governing vehicle incharge of all major government projects that involve the private sector from international and local companies. Therefore there has been a sparked interest about this governing body and head of the organization and therefore enables the subject of the article to comply with "worthy of notice" as "interesting enough to deserve attention" It also complies with "The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by their peers or successors" as being the chairman of one of the biggest companies in kuwait and being a highly ranked official in the government. To name one project that the partnership technical bureau is incharge of establishing that is generating huge interest is article http://www.roadex-railex.com/images/pdf/Kuwaitseekspartnersinthreetransportprojects29July09GN.pdf he is establishing three transportation system projects that include building a metro in Kuwait.

Does this prove enough that he does comply as an entry to the english wikipedia ?
 * The organizations mentioned don't yet have articles on Wikipedia, but they do sound notable. However, being head of a notable organization doesn't necessarily make a person notable, and articles about CEOs of notable companies often get deleted here if the subject can only assert notability by being the company's head. Many of the English links posted in the article don't even mention him, and the ones that do aren't actually about him, but rather mention him in passing as part of the news story, rather than as the story's subject. Can you find any news articles or other reliable secondary sources per WP:RS which are about the man himself: an interview, a profile, something like that?  Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 19:15, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

OmniUpdate article
I posted this on the OmniUpdate discussion page, but I'm not sure that was the correct place, so I am reposting here: This post is in regard to the warnings given to the new article I just created for "OmniUpdate". I am creating this article as a result of the article "List of content management systems". Our product is listed in that article, but has nowhere to link. Other companies listed in the article have successfully created similar articles for their companies and products. The information in the OmniUpdate article is written in a neutral tone and is not an advertisement. I would like feedback on how to improve the OmniUpdate article so that it will not be deleted from Wikipedia. 770editor (talk) 21:07, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Please have a read of WP:COI: you appear to be either an employee or associate of the company, employed in a marketing capacity: see .  Also, the article currently reads like a brochure from a product marketing team: "...offers the benefits of both...", "...built on open standards, leverages the power of...", "...is used to manage more than 500 college and university websites nationwide...", etc.  It's not what you'd expect to read in an encyclopedia.
 * Regarding your comment about other companies' articles, have a read of WP:OTHERSTUFF. If you don't want to see the article deleted, then I would suggest a complete re-write.  Let me know if you'd like me to help with this. MuffledThud (talk) 21:28, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

I appreciate your quick response. I am in no way trying to abuse or distort Wikipedia and have read over many of the guidelines. I have gone back and edited some of the content to make it more neutral; however, statements like "build on open standards" and "more than 500 college and university websites" are facts and I'm not sure how to reword those. Any suggestions or help you can provide would be grately appreciated. 770editor (talk) 22:01, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

MuffledThud - If you are not able to make further suggestions on how to improve the OmniUpdate article, I ask that you please remove the three warning flags. Thanks. 770editor (talk) 18:04, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I've re-written it a bit to remove the ad copy, but the other noted issues remain unaddressed: three of the references given so far are marketing pages from the company website, and one is a company press release on MarketWire, which are not reliable, independent, secondary sources per WP:RS. The article still hasn't asserted notability for the company as described in WP:COMPANY. If you need any further info on those guidelines, please let me know. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 18:59, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Please note that I've added (and will continue to add) reliable secondary sources. I hope this helps.770editor (talk) 22:10, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

user talk blanking
Regarding this edit: users are explicitly allowed to blank anything they wish from their own talk pages except blocking or sockpuppetry notices. It is assumed that blanking these notices indicates they have read and understood them. Beeblebrox (talk) 07:10, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed, and I don't normally unblank comments from other editors' talk pages, but this instance is slightly unusual: I unblanked them to clarify the circumstances under which the editor was blocked, and to show that there was little chance of political bias being involved in the deletions: articles on non-notable candidates from both major parties were speedied. I've also used my last diff with restored comments (prior to their revert) to inform the debate at Articles for deletion/Tag Greason. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 08:41, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I was just concerned you weren't aware of the policy, sometimes that type of situation leads to some very silly talk page edit wars, and there's already been enough drama around this one... Beeblebrox (talk) 20:30, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Gregory Pizzurro
Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages, such as Gregory Pizzurro, to Wikipedia. Doing so is not in accordance with our policies. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Gosox5555 (talk) 01:41, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I only created the redirect following a userfy: see  Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 01:44, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah... That's the problem with instant editing. Multiple edits at the exact same moment causes problems.  We don't usually give a redirect to a user page, the SOP is to delete and have the user copy the page.  It appeared to be an edit project. Gosox5555 (talk) 01:54, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Allied Artists International, and Senior abuse by an WarriorBoy at Wikipedia

 * I am a relatively inexperienced editor of articles about China. Louis Lesser is a historic business figure in China, who was instrumental in opening it up.


 * Louis Lesser does not self promote with his own Wikipedia page, even though he was partners with President John Fitzgerald Kennedy in developing Barrington Plaza, the largest urban renewal project in the history of the western United States, he sold the New Frontier to Howard Hughes, and was landlord to Hughes Aircraft, and he was mentor to both Warren Buffett and Kirk Kirkorian.


 * Louis Lesser is now 93 years old man and is computer illiterate.


 * Louis Lesser is CEO of Allied Artists Pictures Corporation.


 * Kimball Dean Richards is the CEO of Allied Artists International.


 * Kimball Dean Richards has a criminal record that includes so many crimes over the past twenty years that he has been identified as a “Master Criminal” by the FBI, was sentenced to 20 years for bank fraud, mail fraud, an wire fraud in about 1990, and plea bargained after he solicited the MURDER of one of his own employees, tapped the phones of the Sheriff’s office in order to pre-warn drug dealers of impending searches, and was extradited to Arizona for still more criminal charges.


 * WarriorBoy is an editor who only writes articles that promote ALlied Artists International.

ChinaUpdater (talk) 21:03, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * By allowing the vandalism of reliably sourced content, from LA Times, federal court records, etc., WarriorBoy and the Consolidated Allies gang are linking a beloved 93 year old man with a Master Criminal, in order to profit from his computer illiteracy, and use the name of his company by forming similarly named companies.

Your edits to Fowler McCormick
I can't seem to find the template that indicates an article is still being worked on. If you happen to know, I'd appreciate a clue. I work slowly, sometimes only a sentence a day, and that article is about 10 hours old. Do you have a specific reason for challenging Fowler McCormick's notability (i.e., you are familiar with him and believe he is not notable) or is it simply that the case has not been made? Also, I tend to add references when I type in the facts they support--that first sentence is pretty much based on facts already in Wikipedia articles (the ones to which the links point).Rose bartram (talk) 23:42, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's just that the case hasn't been made yet. I've tagged Harold Fowler McCormick, Jr. with "underconstruction", but you might also consider moving it to a subpage of your user page, where you can work on the draft version whenever you have time. MuffledThud (talk) 10:24, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Sima Nan
Wow, that was quick work! You got to the article within two minutes of me creating it! Ohconfucius ¡digame! 08:10, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Sounds like an interesting guy. MuffledThud (talk) 08:12, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, not many Ghits, but definitely interesting and notable. Ohconfucius  ¡digame! 08:34, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Uhhan
FYI: I've removed the category you've added, since Yakuts (ethnic group) ≠ Yakutsk (city). btw, Uhhan (Уххан) is a pseudonym of the yakut journalist of questionable notability – there is no article about him on the russian wiki and I see no reason to have one here → I've tagged it for speedy. Skarebo (talk) 09:55, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, well spotted. I thought this was referring to the shaman deity Uhan, who is apparently venerated in a few Siberian republics.  MuffledThud (talk) 09:59, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

International Housewares Association Page
Why would you want to have this page deleted? LizGere (talk) 16:41, 21 October 2009 (UTC)LizGere
 * Funnily enough, all I did was add Category:Professional associations to your article. But once I had saved, it turned out that the article I was editing had just been deleted, and I was adding a category to a new, empty page. :-)  So I thought "Ah well", and nominated my own handiwork for deletion. MuffledThud (talk) 16:46, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh, my mistake, I misunderstood! LizGere (talk) 17:12, 21 October 2009 (UTC)LizGere
 * No worries! That was a slightly weird one, wasn't it. MuffledThud (talk) 20:46, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

The stunners
Thanks you for finding this copyvio. After removing the screaming bold lines and reading the text i was halfway trying to decide if a band is notable if it explicitly failed to chart its only song while one of the members has a notable article on the wiki - and if the cleanup effort would be so severe it would need a complete rewrite to be kept. Of course this was all laced with the issue of the username being promotional. Believe me, that copyvio came just in time. Thanks, and as always nice seeing more people on new page patrol :).  Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 19:59, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * LOL... yeah, that eye-melting bolding. They had applied it separately to every last damn paragraph.  A good external text editor undoes that quickly though.  Notice how they chopped that copy & paste up into Copyvio McNuggets, to make it harder to spot?  And yes you're right, it's great to see regulars on NPP. :-) MuffledThud (talk) 21:09, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Aaah, that explains why my own attempts to find a copyvio didn't find anything! Guess that looking for a clucking chicken isn't the best way to spot nuggets. Either way, im glad its on its way for food disposal tour. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 21:18, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good
Do you have any ideas on how we can revolve the NPOV dispute ? I understand that immediately mentioning the political criticisms may seem a bit harsh, but it is a fact that many Catholic pro-life activists have expressed criticisms at CACG for its perceived soft stance on the abortion issue. ADM (talk) 13:18, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed, but as it is half the article is a criticism, supported by one link to a political blog, with very little information about what the group does. I've never heard of them, but let's try to balance the article out a bit. MuffledThud (talk) 13:20, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Diamonds
Oh, yes, i'm sorry, i'm fairly new here, just entering my third week, i was trying to use rollback and i think i reverted it by mistake. My bad,-- Penguin   Warchief  15:14, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Not a problem, it probably just showed up as a large number of characters deleted in the Recent changes list. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 15:15, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Ov Hell
Hi MuffledThud! I declined this speedy in accordance with CSD A7, as the lede sentence makes a clear assertion of significance. If you have any further questions regarding this, please let me know. Regards, decltype (talk) 08:03, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops, you're right. Thanks for the correction. MuffledThud (talk) 08:05, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Aspen Dental
I found a bunch of sources on Google News. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:31, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've replied at the AFD. MuffledThud (talk) 18:52, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

How has the priduction of beef for the global consuption of fast food effected the equatorial rainforest?
Hi, I removed your speedy delete tag and added a prod tag, because the article does not seem to fall into the A1 category; the article has sufficient context to identify what the author was talking about. Please leave a message on my talk page if you have any concerns about this. Thanks! -- Casmith_789 (talk) 09:03, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

mattijs visser
thank you for advice and help, will work on references. are the publications i mentioned not references? or do i include the many (not important) press clipping?

further it is very important to keep my statement as that is what makes the work i do unique and for that fact people are looking for me.

thanks,

tijs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattijsmattijs (talk • contribs) 09:49, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to help. Everything in a biography of a living person must be properly sourced or deleted: see WP:BLP and WP:CITE for more info.  If you'd like further help or info on this, please ask and I'll be glad to point you in the right direction.
 * But it's very important that you not put your personal statement on the article about you: please see AUTOBIO (particularly the section WP:YOURSELF), and WP:NOTLINKEDIN. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 09:59, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

George Clemens
I hope you won't think I have shot your fox, but I had the opportunity today to check furniture reference books in a library (details on the article talk page) and, finding absolutely no reference to George Clemens, I have taken the article to AfD here. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:48, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Shoot away! And thanks for making such an unusually thorough search. MuffledThud (talk) 15:55, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Fowler McCormick
I'll keep working on it the way I have been, which to my knowledge is and has been an acceptable way of building an article on WP. I do not see the incomplete status of the article as a problem, because the only people who will know about it are those (and yes, I understand that you doubt they exist) who are interested in its subject. If someone wanted to know about Fowler McCormick, they would immediately see that the article is incomplete, and at any rate might appreciate knowing a little about his early life.

If it upsets you that much, go ahead and put it in as an article for deletion. If no one but me can see any reason to include him in WP, I'll cede the point and move on. It is my honest opinion that a person who figured as prominently as he in the life of Jung is worth a little space in WP. But I do not want to waste my time if at this point you already see it as something which will eventually have to be got rid of.Rose bartram (talk) 19:36, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It doesn't upset me at all, and it may well be about someone important as you suggest. The article may just need more work before it's ready to be included as an article. I've moved it to a subpage of your user page: User:Rose_bartram/Harold_Fowler_McCormick,_Jr., and linked it to your user page. If you don't want to work on it there then please feel free to delete it.  Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 19:41, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The notability guideline page states that a person is notable if s/he has received significant coverage in published, reliable secondary sources which are intellectually independent and independent of the subject. The McCormick article had already met those criteria before you chucked it, unless of course you want to make the case that the coverage in all four references already there is trivial. The burden of proof for that claim would be on the person making it. What notability guidelines did you use when deciding whether WP needed a George Clemens article? And you still have not provided a reference for any WP guideline that no incomplete pages are allowed. You must be a busy beaver, applying that one.Rose bartram (talk) 12:25, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The article hasn't been "chucked", it's been moved to User:Rose bartram/Harold Fowler McCormick, Jr., as noted above. It can be moved back to mainspace in seconds, whenever it's ready.  Happy to help with this if you like.  If you're interested in the George Clemens article, the AFD discussion is at Articles for deletion/George Clemens, as noted above.  Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 12:34, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Clearing tags
Hi,

I appreciate your reviewing the Laryngospasms page - just wanting to get things done properly. Many of the places the group has been featured are in journals that only allow access to members only. Still, I have 3rd-party references - how many would be considered enough? When can the article be reviewed for bias as I am a current member of the group? I fashioned our page after our European counterparts, the Amateur Transplants. Thanks in advance for your feedback!

Rich Leyh Richleyh (talk) 20:36, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I've just gone through it and pruned it a little for WP:NPOV. But on second reading, I think it's got enough third part refs.  Other editors might disagree, but I've removed the primary-ref tag since it was me that put it there.  I've also added some links. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 21:06, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

ANALYSYS Page
Hi MuffledThud,

First of all, thank you for your help with cleaning up the Wiki page for ANALYSYS. You certainly are on top of things. I'm adding this page because I believe the company meets the reliable secondary source criteria, and several natoinal and local sources such as ZDNET, Baltimore Business Journal, and The Gazette (Maryland) have been cited or included to substantiate. Presuming you are in agreement that the page is worthy of inclusion into Wikipedia, could you please propose any suggestions regarding the tags you have made? I've made a few additional mods myself in advance of sending this message. Want to ensure that the content is friendly to the platform...

Thanks! Stevekolbe (talk) 04:22, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I've made some changes as asked, but please have a read of WP:COI to learn about why it's a bad idea to write and article about your own company. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 15:07, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Flomar
You recently redirected Flomar to Martian Child, since the original page noted that the name referred to the dog in that film. However, since the Martian Child page does not mention the dog at all, this seems like an unlikely redirect. I suspect it would have been better to nominate the page for deletion (either speedy or not), as it seems to be some new user's attempt to get his own dog's name into Wikipedia. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:24, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Quite right: content now merged. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 13:27, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Given that the content was unreferenced and "weasely", I'm not sure a merge was the best course of action here. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:44, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I have added a reference, but it's not a problem: feel free to revert. MuffledThud (talk) 14:05, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Gender aspects of globalization in China
This article is part of an educational assignment: (Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/User:Piotrus/Fall_2009). Out of those 10 groups, this one seems to be really struggling; if you could explain to them on the article's talk page why the article is not acceptable as it is now and what they need to do to make it a proper stub, I'd appreciate it. I will of course do so myself, but I also want to have them engage in discussion with other community members (and in interactions that don't involve them getting a "your article was deleted" bot notices :D). Thanks, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 22:03, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks for the heads-up. Sorry I didn't check the links back to edu projects before the speedy. MuffledThud (talk) 14:49, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Gantang
Any particular reason you think this article is a hoax? You might want to discuss those reasons at Talk:Gantang. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:39, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Good idea, thanks. MuffledThud (talk) 16:40, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Ulleskelf Vikings
have you got nothing better to do than delete pages that dont need to be deleted. Ulleskelf Vikings has nothing to do with you. Maybe in 4 years when they are in the papers, then you can say something about them. sad —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaythud (talk • contribs) 11:33, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * If they are notable in 4 years time, then they will probably have an article about them here in Wikipedia. Please be sure to add your comments at the deletion discussion Articles_for_deletion/Ulleskelf_Vikings. Thanks, MuffledThud (talk) 11:38, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

OK - Better? / Worse?...


(Oz71 (talk) 01:47, 30 October 2009 (UTC)).


 * The article AustinFromNEW needs reliable, seconday sources per WP:RS that prove notability per WP:ARTIST and/or WP:BIO, and it doesn't look like those are available. MuffledThud (talk) 09:21, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Again - there are, as listed, books featuring AustinFromNEW in the British Library, Colleges, and University libraries ( and high-street Arts bookshops ) worldwide - why is it so much of an issue to have the text from these books available online to prove this? - A cursory glance at 'Thinking Visually', 'Secrets of Illustration' or 'Digital Illustration...' removes any doubts! Oz71 (talk) 20:52, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I've replied below, to keep the discussion all in one place. MuffledThud (talk) 10:06, 5 November 2009 (UTC)