User talk:Mughalnz/Archive1


 * 1) Archive 2009-2010

Your recent edits
Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. --SineBot (talk) 03:35, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Edits on Kashmir Conflict
Hi I have reverted your edits on Kashmir Conflict page, Although I agree with the Peace-full protest part but it was not written well and links inserted were not pointing to exact point u mentioned. May we can come up with better references and text and then insert that into article. Thanks, Oniongas (talk) 14:08, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

November 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions. One of the core policies of Wikipedia is that articles should always be written from a neutral point of view. A contribution you made to History of India appears to carry a non-neutral point of view, and your edit may have been changed or reverted to correct the problem. Please remember to observe our core policies. Thank you. ''Please understand the difference between the Indian subcontinent and South Asia first. These are two different geographical areas, although they are not mutually exclusive. Even your UN map does not show these two areas to be the same. So, first, please understand both history and geography. When you have done so, you will, yourself stop your POV pushing.'' Shovon (talk) 10:41, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit that you made to the page Fort Hood shooting has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Please use the sandbox for testing any edits; if you believe the edit was constructive, please ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing for further information. Thank you. Staxringold talkcontribs 02:56, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Creating articles that are content or pov forks
Hi mughalnz. POV forks are explicitly discouraged on wikipedia and doing so persistently can get you blocked or even banned. I suggest you carefully read WP:POVFORK before creating new articles. Regards. --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 03:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Mughalnz (talk)thanks for the information as you can see i am still trying to get grasp of wikipedia pov s cridible info now WP:POVFORKMughalnz (talk)

Your recent edits
Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. --SineBot (talk) 04:05, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Your recent edits
Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. --SineBot (talk) 01:13, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Time Line of Kashmir Conflict
Hi since you have edited the page on timeline of kashmir conflict I would be greatful if you could keep any eye out for that page it attracts allot of trolling by Indian editors who had information which has nothing to do with the conflict such as which company is making what there also keep an eye out for Naveenswiki he likes adding sensationalist garbage to the page hes under the impression that its a biased article he doesnt seem to understand that Indian occupied Kashmir is where all the trouble is and oppression thankyou Radar1X (talk) 21:50, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Pakistan and State Sponsored Terrorism
I'll take a look at your points over the next couple of days. (On the face of it, the Pakistan section does look excessive but it is worth taking a look at the references.) --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 02:57, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Your recent edits
Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. --SineBot (talk) 23:59, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Indian occupied Kashmir
Hello freind since the indians insists pakistan occupys kashmir lets repay them by stating Indian occupied kashmir in the frist line in Jammu and Kashmir article I think that should settle the disputed created by these indian pov pushers Bhazan23 (talk) 18:22, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Hey man don't start an edit war just change it to the correct name and say stop pushing pov  and state the correct name of both Kashmirs npov.

Also look on the azad jammu and Kashmir talk page or jammu and kashmir talk page for further evidence for the correct use name .NpovMughalnz (talk) 20:10, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Comment and request
Mughalnz, I have seen several of your recent comments at Talk:History of India, User_talk:RegentsPark and User_talk:SpacemanSpiff, and they often appear to be very cryptic and hard to interpret. May I suggest that you spend a bit more time in composing your talk page messages, use a basic spell-check, and make sure that you provide sufficient context and links to other wikipedia articles, external sources, or diffs for edits to enable others to know what is being talked about. This will help us address your concerns better and sooner. Another couple of points: It would also help if you read the talk pages to see if the concerns you raise have already been addressed ebfore. For example, the issue of naming of the History of India article that you just re-raised is discussed in detail at Talk:History_of_India (SpacemanSpiff told you about this discussion before). Remember to click on the blue links in other editors' talk page comments, to see what they are referring to. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 05:23, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't mark your edits as minor unless they involve simple corection of typos, spelling errors etc.
 * Remember to sign all your talk page messages by appending ~ at the end of your posts.

New Message
Aditya.krishnan.82 (talk, contribs) 02:46, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

December 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Jammu and Kashmir, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses novel, unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. SBC-YPR (talk) 10:46, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Re:Last revert to Jammu and Kashmir
There was some POV-pushing in the lead by another editor, and while reverting that some of your edits got deleted in the process. While this is fine (although I thought it added completeness to the picture), information about peaceful protest, legality/illegality of the accession etc. should go to the Kashmir conflict page. Also, try and find some better references (books, journals etc.) for the history between 1947-1957 (at present there is not much on the page). I will also try and look for sources. Regards, SBC-YPR (talk) 15:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * doesn't that mean militancy should go to kashmir conflict page as well ,i gave you some the academic magazine times look in History  and pg 94 of the schofield book for the ref in early 1950 in politicss and government ,book have tofind  university publisher hard to find times,washingtopn post ,wall street jouranl are more than good enough reliable npov resources to make edits (non indian and pakistani) ,ad some comment later there is nothing about U.N plebescite, and when  Sheikh abdullah prime minister ,thanks Mughalnz (talk) 20:25, 7 January 2010 (UTC)


 * i also think there needs to balanced editing on both Pakistan administered Kashmir page and Indian Administered Kashmir page ,you should have a look at both pages and see the differences ,if that type of editing such as political unrest exist there then it would allow such topic to be open up in indian Administerd page.In other words if want to improve this article you also have to improve the other article aswell to npov ,thanks Mughalnz (talk) 20:30, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Kashmir Conflict
please do not remove cited info without first discussing all the info pertained to human rights in Pak administered kashmir. This was something you had conveniently omitted while POV pushing a wahhabi pro pakistani POV. this is your final warning.Wikireader41 (talk) 02:45, 12 January 2010 (UTC) Mughalnz ignore this Vedic hindu Saffron terrorist pov pusher his vandetta against Pakistan and kashmiri civilians will never end lets hope for another mumbai style attack cheers 86.153.131.180 (talk) 11:11, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * i have might have accidently deleted pieces withoout reading the full Paksitan admisterd kashmir uhcr ref, i was wanting to delete the non reliable sources,outdate and offtopic areas such as

-er groups like Gilgit-Baltistan United Movement are demanding full autonomy for the areas of Gilgit and Baltistan. -The Balawaristan National Front has stated its goal of seeking independence from Pakistan. Abdul Hamid Khan Chairman of Balawaristan National Front states that 'The Pakistani administration has also been involved in efforts to alter the demographic profile of Pakistan-occupied Gilgit Baltistan, reducing the indigenous people to a minority.' The Gilgit-Baltistan area is administered directly by Islamabad. The population here, primarily Shia Muslims, was brought under one federally administered territory administered by Pakistan on November 16, 1947, in the name of Islam.'[84] Other groups like Gilgit-Baltistan United Movement are demanding full autonomy for the areas of Gilgit and Baltistan. On January 8, 2005 11 people were killed following an armed attack on a Shia leader.[85] According to B.Raman of India, the main reasons for the unrest were military induced changes in demographic composition by encouraging the migration of Sunnis from the other provinces. As a result, the Shias and the Ismailis, who constituted about 85 per cent of the population in 1948, today constitute only about 53 per cent of the population in 2005.{this is based only on source on from delhi if this is allowed the other editors get some source from other insitute from paksitan or china will allowed and  how can they conduct survey of population demographic when it is in pakistan control  ,what does bnf wanting autonomy relavent  to human rights this will lead to jklf,lakshar taiba and other groups to state there goal aswell etc claims aswell, -Gilgit Baltistan region has been described a 'simmering cauldron of discontent'{so many paragraphs of discontent can be written about discount in Indian adminstered kashmir without reliable information  again hw is it relevent to human rights - Obiviously there is human right violation in every third world country and also in pakistan adminstered kashmir obviously but there are 1.5 million refuges that have fled indian adminstered Kashmir that since 1989 to Pakistan and azd kashmir however pakistan kashmir has lower Political Rights, Civil Liberties rating how are we to decide huma right situations is worser in each respective regions -in 2009 there some democratic insituion established in gilgit Baltistan http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5AB1ZE20091112 so some of information you used was outdated

sorry about grammer kind of sleepy Mughalnz (talk) 03:44, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

-furthermore i been to gilgit,Kashmir valley ,azd kashmir ,western jammu but not ladakh baltistan i have first had account what life is really like there.


 * the discontent in PoK is related to widespread abuse of rights and absence of basic human rights in that part of the world. read the UNHCR report.  it clearly states that Indian Kashmir is 'partly free' and PoK is 'not free'. how many elections were there in PoK ????  I have lived in kashmir and know the ground situation very well my friend.   the nonsense you are adding to these articles is just that.  You did not even mention the human rights violations and genocide of Kashmiri pandits ?????  what kind of utter crap is that.  The truth is that pakistani ISI pays MONEY to people to say and do things against India. reaed operation Tupac  Most of the militants are foreigner JIHADIs.  why  would anybody in their sane minds want to join a failed state of India ????  now violence is down because they are all busy in Delhi.  why else do you think Kashmir is so peaceful nowadays lol have you seen the news recently??? do not insult the Kashmiris insult indians instead.   they know better and are very intelligent people.  everybody I know in India would love to leave the country and.  One of the major political parties their ( MQM) thinks partition was the worst idea ever.  so you keep your RAW sponsored pov pushing to yourself.  and it might help if you learn some basic english if you want to edit english wikipedia

Wikireader41 (talk) 22:19, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * you try edit warring and see what will happen. If I thought you had the ability to contribute anything to wikipedia I would have co-operated.  I have co-operated with several Muslim/Pakistani editors on WP several times.  but I have looked at your edit and completely feel you have nothing to offer.  so dont fool yourself and think you are capable of doing any good here.  stay away and find some thing else to do.  and learn some english so that other people can understand what you are trying to say.Wikireader41 (talk) 00:52, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * but do you dispute my points Mughalnz (talk) 00:55, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Languages of Azad Jammu and Kashmir
A tag has been placed on Languages of Azad Jammu and Kashmir requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, a rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content. You may wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Eeekster (talk) 02:46, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


 * This was a one-sentence article that duplicates information found in the existing article on Azad Kashmir. NawlinWiki (talk) 03:15, 22 January 2010 (UTC)