User talk:Muhandes/Archive 8

Nerist undid
I know what i m doing. All the league universities of USA are using flag icons. What sort of useless crap was that? I was going to fix the ref list but just had some interruptions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renzut (talk • contribs) 08:32, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * If you know what you are doing, you know that you should continue a discussion in the same page where it started, i.e. in your page. You also know that you should sign sign your message. For the matter itself, if the league universities' infoboxes are using flag icons, they should be removed from them as well, MOS:FLAG is very clear about that. I don't know "what sort of useless crap" it is, but it is policy. You are free to discuss it at the talk page and try to change the consensus. Until you do, please don't add flag icons to infoboxes. --Muhandes (talk) 15:37, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

NIT Warangal
This is for your information that the NIT Warangal logo added by you on NITW wiki page spells "Warangal" as "Wrangal". I am an alumnus and want to know if that was a typo? If yes, it needs to be changed. Thanks. dhruv.umich@hotmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.176.37 (talk) 17:18, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out, I'll upload a correct version. --Muhandes (talk) 17:46, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the prompt response ! ..Dhruv — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.176.37 (talk) 17:59, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

NIT Warangal
Hi Muhendes,

Whatever text we have incldued in NIT Warangal Wiki page does not come under copy right violation. Iam an alumnus of NIT Warangal.The content I have put pertains to NIT Warangal and is a regular phenomenon at NIT Warangal.It is just like any other student fests like Technozion and Springspree.

So,please undo the change you have made.

Thanks, Rajendra Lingam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orca.nitw (talk • contribs) 05:12, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why you think it does not come under copy rights, I see no release to the public anywhere on the website. If you wish to request that Lakshya Foundation donate the rights, see WP:COPYREQ. If you are the owner of the rights and wish to donate them, see WP:DCM. However, note that even if we had the rights to the material, the text you copy pasted is not unencyclopedic. There is nothing wrong wish a short description of an alumni organization, but "Coming face to face with a real problem where some students were in need of financial help to continue their education, we realized that money should not be a hurdle for education" does not belong here. See also WP:EL on how to use external links. --Muhandes (talk) 06:15, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

WP:INEI at Wikiconference India
Hi Muhandes, you should have been there at WCI in Mumbai, we had sessions on WP:INEI which naveenpf conducted. It went on very well.  Lynch 7  07:26, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Good to hear it went well, I hope you enjoyed it all. You know I live a bit more than 5000 km from Mumbai, so walking there was out of question, even if I was not at bed recovering from a Jones fracture. --Muhandes (talk) 08:13, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Addenda: I wonder if this explains the sudden burst of activity with university articles. I can't find time to redo the list article from all the other articles which need watching. --Muhandes (talk) 08:15, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, that's too bad, hope you recover soon! Well I don't know if that's the explanation, but the session sure was popular.  Lynch 7  13:27, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Sid-G?
Hopefully I found the correct contributor XD Don't know if you remember our discussion how to expand the cite web templates (and such things). You might want to have a further look at User_talk:Ucucha and try this one. As somebody already points to you: this is a very slow task and might take a long time until the source code is converted. Regards, mabdul 15:28, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Heh, nevermind. Might interest you also. (I found the correct contributor). mabdul 15:30, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I simply had no time to check it, but I'll have a look now. --Muhandes (talk) 15:31, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I gave it a try. You can see my comments on the process here. --Muhandes (talk) 16:23, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Re: Talk:List_of_Indian_engineering_college_rankings
Hi Muhandes, sorry if I came on a bit too harsh there! I was trying to say that it would look better if we did not have all that negativity there by saying that a college was not ranked; because it will get a lot of vandals (we already have a lot of vandals on the list article). At the same time, I completely agree with you when you say we need to include all rankings, good or bad. I would suggest we use an infobox which will contain all the rankings. I think this is the way its done in most US university articles. What do you say? (Sorry if you got offended :) )  Lynch 7  05:47, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I wasn't offended at all. The reason I commented at that page was that I wanted feedback, and you gave me feedback. The infobox ides is awesome and I will go right away and implement it. Why didn't I think of it? I'll use Infobox US university ranking as an example. One issue is that we don't have articles about the rankings themselves, we will need to at least write a section about each in the article about them. --Muhandes (talk) 06:02, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * And done. --Muhandes (talk) 09:01, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Great work! I've replied with comments on the talk page.  Lynch 7  12:24, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

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NERIST edit
Listen u scumbag. If u r not a memeber of the NERIST community, stay away form the page. I understand that u trying to maintain policies and standards, but don't just go around deleting information just like u did recently. If u can add any info, please do so. But dare u to change anything otherwise. The page is not for all the world to view. It was aimed at the people of the region. Get that through ur thickhead. Stop placing the images in the infobox. The picture of the gate is not the picture of the institute. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.211.90.122 (talk) 03:44, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * There is no such thing as "aimed at the people of the region". Wikipedia articles are aimed at everyone. Your edit breaks multiple policies. If you have something to discuss and you want to do it in a civil manner, do so at the talk page. Continue to threat me and you may get blocked. As for the picture of the gate, instead of foaming at the mouth you should have just said this is a problem. I really don't mind about this part, it is purely cosmetic. Again, just saying so at the talk page would have gotten you there much quicker. As you just said you are a member of the NERIST community, you are at conflict of interest. I will leave a note on your talk page about it, and please stop editing the page. --Muhandes (talk) 08:19, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia articles are not aimed at any particular community; this is the English wikipedia and it is aimed at anyone who can read English. Also, wikipedia is the encylopaedia that "anyone can edit", not the "encyclopaedia which only people connected to the subject can edit". Anyone can edit the NERIS article, not just people who have been there. A lot of the material removed by Muhandes was inappropriate for an encyclopaedia; he was doing the right thing. Basa lisk  inspect damage ⁄berate  11:16, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Very well then, take a look at the page of IIT Bombay. I am just surprised how u came about this page among all the millions of articles. So much for adding information! If only I knew that Wikipedia got such strict issues! Since all those efforts were wasted. There is only little that can be done. Muhandes or whatever, i dont have time to do edits, but i like contributing. Well good luck with your efforts. I don't change for nobody. If you can convey this that's fine. I am done with it anyway. I did all I could. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.211.90.122 (talk) 14:20, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

I see
I see ours is not the only page u do useless edits to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.211.90.122 (talk) 03:46, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * If you think removing copyrighted material is "useless" you have a lot to learn. Best regards though. --Muhandes (talk) 08:45, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

I blog regularly, so I do get the idea what it means to present to the viewers. Besides the necessary credits are always provided. Also, the original sources of whatever contribution are not copyright material. And don't ask for a needless reason. Someone experienced like yourself gets it from the start. I don't have to render reasons to u when i know u r the one to view them. Well the journey ends here. So much for inspiration from the fellow experienced contributors. I think I will manage without wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.211.90.122 (talk) 14:29, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * You are very welcome. Feel free to contact me with any question or assistance you may need. --Muhandes (talk) 15:41, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Re:Talk page
It's standard Wikipedia guideline to inform the user and I didn't know if the notices sent the first time because I didn't check your talk page to make sure, so I posted them just in case. That's all. RickyBryant45324 * talk 18:39, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, no harm done. Best regards and happy editing. --Muhandes (talk) 18:44, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

copyright issue
Mr Muhandes, This is not a copyright violation as wikipedia usually gives option in the beginning to choose whether you are uploading through internet or is it your own work. I have stated clearly before uploading. If this is copyright violation than prove to me. You can also verify my uploads. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Extractinternet (talk • contribs) 20:12, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Every photograph is protected by copyright. You cannot use images from the internet in Wikipedia without permission from the owner. Sorry about that, but that's how it works. --Muhandes (talk) 20:17, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

WP:EL
If you've come here to leave me a note about a revert I recently made with the edit summary WP:EL, here is the explanation. An editor has added several dozen external link sections, all with obituaries by the same writer. In many cases they even linked to a personal website and/or emphasized the name. This is obviously not coincidental, and in my opinion was all done in an effort to promote, against WP:EL. I have reverted most of those edits, though I admit some may be valuable, to be on the safe side. If you feel a specific link I removed is valuable, feel free to restore it, you don't need to notify me. Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 19:43, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Second opinion needed
Hi Muhandes, can you have a look at this, and tell me if the material was suitable for inclusion or not? The incident was definitely notable of course (as a Google search throws up many news results), but I'm unsure if it was suitable to include it in the college article, as it was not directly connected to the college. Would be glad if you could offer your opinion. Thanks,  Lynch 7  13:54, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * If that's all there is to it, a single student committing suicide, I don't think it should be included. --Muhandes (talk) 14:04, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks.  Lynch 7  14:27, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * I am not connected at all to IIM Indore, or any other Indian higher education institute. I just happen to write a lot about them. As a matter of fact, I live some 4000 km away, and have never been to India :) --Muhandes (talk) 21:00, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

College Rankings
I see, you have included colleges like Galgotias College of Engineering & Technology and Amity School of Engineering & Technology in the list which are ranked 68 and 72 respectively by the Outlook. Hence, I feel, Acharya Institute of Technology, which is ranked 60 by the Outlook must be included in the list. Sourav Mohanty (talk) 09:32, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Please read the talk page. We include institutes if they have at least one ranking of 50 or below. The two institutes you mentioned do, Acharya does not. --Muhandes (talk) 09:33, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, okay :) ! No probs, but, I feel the list must be expanded to Top 100 rankings. If u find it tiring, I would do take up the task and do it :) ! And we should include rankings of EFY too. Sourav Mohanty (talk) 09:47, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

List of Indian University rankings
We can list the rankings of Indian Universities on the lines of List of Indian engineering college rankings. Very reliable sources for the rankings are 4icu.org rankings and Webometrics rankings, as these agencies have enlisted all the universities of India. What do you feel about it ? Sourav Mohanty (talk) 10:13, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't remember when, but I think there was consensus that 4icu and Webometrics should not be included anywhere in Wikipedia. I can try to dig these discussions out. --Muhandes (talk) 10:20, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * here is the one for 4icu. --Muhandes (talk) 10:22, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I could not easily fine the discussion about webomaterics. Anyway, how about something like Rankings of universities in South Africa? --Muhandes (talk) 11:36, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I have serious doubts about the reliability of 4icu. Webometrics can be included, though I don't know how to do that, since the List is for college rankings; All colleges under state universities have been clubbed in Webometrics.  Lynch 7  11:48, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I think what Sourav Mohanty was proposing is to create List the rankings of Indian universities, based on Webometrics and 4icu. I may add that to do this one would first need to define "University", which is List of universities in India all over again (yes, I should find the time to split that one as discussed). --Muhandes (talk) 11:53, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, well, such a list wouldn't really be indicative of anything. These international ranking organizations don't really get the Indian state university system I guess; A "university" in India is very different from the ones in the US. We really should define it.  Lynch 7  11:58, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe the best is to create Rankings of universities and colleges in India, which rather than listing universities, discusses the different ranking systems and gives the top X for each, much like Rankings of universities in the United Kingdom. It can include an "International rankings" section which will list the top Y on the different international rankings, much like Rankings of universities in South Africa does. I really see a need for this as something to accompany the new template, but I don't have time for it right now (went back to work, yay). --Muhandes (talk) 12:07, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That would be acceptable I guess. In any case, I've started a section regarding this in WT:INEI. Probably naveenpf and the others can come up with a suitable solution.  Lynch 7  12:19, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That would probably have been the best place to start the discussion anyway. Feel free to copypaste my part above :) --Muhandes (talk) 12:20, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Eddie Gala
in regards to Eddie Galan's page, I am his manager. It was already listed for years that he was a 4 time #1 songwriter/producer. 2 times on Hannah Montana and 2 times on High School Musical. Lil Eddie's album went #1 again this year in Japan on iTunes. These are true statements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.9.137.37 (talk) 22:45, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Since you are his manage, you are in a very clear Conflict of Interest so you are kindly requested to stop editing his article. If you have suggestions on how to improve the page, please make them at the talk page, and another editor will review them. As for the matter itself, the sentence said "who has worked on albums that have accumulated over 18 million in sales worldwide, garnered him 5 #1 records as a writer/producer and 4 #1 records as a publisher." No source was brought for the sales figure. The term "#1 records" is meaningless without the chart in which they peaked, and lacks sources as well. Mind you, per WP:BADCHARTS, I doubt iTunes charts count. --Muhandes (talk) 11:56, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Placements at IIT kharagpur
how can the section Placements at IIT kharagpur be promotional.I don't understand this dual nature of wikipedia .wikipedia itself is reverting back from what it stated earlier.In February 2011, itself Wikipedia stated that placements in IIT Kharagpur is a detailed discussion ,and not promotional.It is supported by different reliable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.82.23.247 (talk • contribs) 18:35, 6 December 2011‎
 * I'm not sure what you mean by "Wikipedia stated", who is this "Wikipedia" person you are talking about? I read the section, I think it is promotional. It discusses matters which are trivial and are of little importance to anyone except a prospect student, which is the exact sign of promotion, and sources don't matter in this regards. However, I am not going to argue this, because I simply don't care enough. Have your free brochure on me. --Muhandes (talk) 16:50, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

An Invite to join the WikiProject Offline Wikipedia for Indian Schools
naveenpf (talk) 02:51, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't think I have time for more projects at the moment. --Muhandes (talk) 08:13, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Sales certification
Can you comment here? Best, Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  22:22, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Seems like he already answered, but I added my 2 agorot. --Muhandes (talk) 06:38, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria
Could you please explain what part of Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria is being broken by the Deluxe Edition of the album as listed here in this edit? --Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:21, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Criteria #1. As the criteria says, one should ask themselves "Could the subject be adequately conveyed by properly sourced text without using the non-free content at all?" and the clear answer is yes "exactly like the standard cover with the words "Deluxe Edition" at the bottom" will do the job. --Muhandes (talk) 15:57, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Orphan criteria
Hiya, noticed you just tagged this Dance_History which has two incoming links already. Orphan now says only tag pages with zero links. I've got a feeling that may have changed as I suspect it used to be anything less than 3 links...? Quite a few of the articles in the Orphan category I've looked at recently also seem to have been tagged despite having links, so I'm wondering if the criteria is actually clear, or if some of the tools that pick out orphans are saying something different? (I'm asking because I'm personally getting confused about which articles the tag should be removed from, I'm not suggesting you've done anything wrong) - Hunting dog (talk) 16:27, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up, I actually knew the criteria, but my AWB was configured incorrectly. Anyway, I corrected it. Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 15:39, 10 December 2011 (UTC)--Muhandes (talk) 15:39, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Changes @ NIT Srinagar Article
Some of the facts as stated by anonymous user 117.211.89.212 were correct, notwithstanding lack of sources, but at the same time your reverting his/her changes has made the article very insufficient in details. As far as your mentioning the 8-Block Dal Boys Hostel as Staff quarters converted to hostels owing to lack of accommodation is derogatory, and also the fact that presently it is completely a boys-hostel now and lack of accommodation is no more. I can say this being a recent alumni of the college itself and therefore, you can take my word as a source, but of course as an unverifiable one. But still I request you to let my editings stand as I wish for nothing other than the exactness and truthfulness of Wikipedia articles, especially those which are connected to me in some or the other way. Rockin291 (talk) 05:12, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

And of course the fact of me being an alumni and all can be verified with some document scans which can be mailed to you if required, but I believe such measures are rendered unnecessary by mutual trust.

About your contributions in other areas of Wikipedia I am thoroughly impressed, I wish you keep contributing and help make Wikipedia more richer and informative. Rockin291 (talk) 05:20, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your kind words. The IP added a large amount of information without sources, so I reverted it all. Had he made only changes (with no additional data) I would not have done anything. If you think the information is incorrect, correct it. A source (even a primary one from the institute's website) would be nice, but for descriptive facts (this and that exists) a source is many times not requested. Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 06:21, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Well you got your points for sure, and you made quite a lot of edits recently in the article. But I would recommend you to take a look at how the the NIT articles like National Institute of Technology, Tiruchirappalli are laid-out so that you can have ideas of how to organize this article properly. I would have done it myself but editing whole articles is a new thing for me and I think you would do it far better. And please take a look at the content in the mentioned article to find out what kind of information is relevant in an encyclopedia. Will be grateful if you take out time to do this, and I will try to add more information to it from sources. Rockin291 (talk) 04:00, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * If I would have wanted to thoroughly edit the article I would have not used National Institute of Technology, Tiruchirappalli as my guideline, since there is an official guideline WP:UNIGUIDE, which is what one should use for editing university articles (also consider WP:BOOSTER). As a matter of fact, a quick look at NITT's shows it needs some work to conform with the guidelines (not to speak of the fact that the rankings section is very clear WP:INDISCRIMINATE and the placements section is also quite clear WP:PROMOTE). But I'm afraid none of this matters as I have 13,500 other articles on my watch list, and at least three big projects in the pipeline, on top of working two jobs, so I don't have the time to thoroughly edit either article. If you have any questions I would gladly assist, but other than quick cosmetics and obvious vandalism, editing university articles just isn't my focus right now. --Muhandes (talk) 06:58, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you sir, for your valuable guides regarding how to organize university articles. I'm sure it will help me edit this article now. And I forgot that you are a busy man and obviously if among 13,500 articles and the projects you take out time even to take a look at an article like this it is incredible in itself. I'll try my best to organize it and will ask for any help that I might need in this endeavor, and your help will always be appreciated. And carry on the good work sir, it is so great to contribute and greater still to contribute selflessly. Rockin291 (talk) 23:29, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Campus School CCS HAU, Hisar
Hi there. You have edited my article due to lack of citations. Since i am new to wikipedia, i didn't knew i cannot add citations from linkedin. sorry for the inconvenience. i just wanted to ask that what type of citations are allowed on wikipedia. also i want to add images to some articles. i have edited more than 10 articles. so how would i know that when i am allowed to add images? also is there any way to know whether you are an editor, administrator, etc? vishal14k Vishal Kaushik 16:28, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The problem was not citations (though you are right that linkedin is very rarely accepted as a source since it is self published). The problem was that per WP:NLIST every member in a list of people needs to be notable (and have a reliable source). That usually means we do not add people which do not have articles. I therefore removed all the alumni without articles. As for images, everyone is allowed to add images. I am not an administrator, most administrators will say so on their user page (and supply a link for verification). I hope this helps, and feel free to ask any other other questions you have. --Muhandes (talk) 22:13, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Categorisation of Guru Gobind Singh Indraprastha University
User:Muhandes undid my categorisation of the University from a professional university to a general one, I am changing the reversing the same... because the University was formed under the Indraprastha Vishwavidyalaya Adhiniyam, 1998 (THE INDRAPRASTHA VISHWAVIDYALAYA ACT, 1998)
 * The relevant portion of the Act reads:
 * AN ACT to establish and incorporate an affiliating and teaching University at Delhi to facilitate and promote studies, research and extension work in emerging areas of higher education with focus on professional education, for example engineering, technology, management studies, medicine, pharmacy, nursing, education, law, etc., and also to achieve excellence in these and connected fields and other matters connected therewith or incidental thereto. BE it enacted by the Legislative Assembly of the National Capital Territory of Delhi in the fortyninth year of the Republic of India as follows... [IPU Act]

Thus one can see that no General Course are taught in the University, if the term 'professional' as in wikipedia articles does not include the nature of IPU, then that article has to be changed giving an Indian reference... and not the Indian University being classified as a General one, especially when the government deems it otherwise. DebashisM (talk) 10:57, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * While I may agree, the page is a community effort, so please comment on the page's talk page, not on mine, so other editors can comment. --Muhandes (talk) 10:59, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I see you went ahead and changed before discussion. I will move this discussion to the proper place and comment there, I ask that you do not edit until the discussion is completed and consensus is achieved. --Muhandes (talk) 11:48, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

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WiKi page Jaypee Institute of Information Technology
Hi Muhandes,

I am alumni of Jaypee Institute of Information Technology and whatever text I have updated on wiki page of Jaypee Institute of Information Technology is genuine and you can the same on the institute webpage: www.jiit.ac.in. It better to provide up to date information about something than just publishing false information on wikipedia.

Regards, RajeshKamma — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajeshkamma (talk • contribs) 22:25, 15 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I did not revert any of your edits. An anonymous IP was restoring material I recently deleted and introducing a very large number of manual of style violations, without using an edit summary to explain why. Much of them was not reliably sourced, some of them were also against the guide to university articles and WP:BOOSTER. As the IP did not leave any reason, I was left with little choice but to revert it all. Again, your edits were not changed at all. --Muhandes (talk) 22:29, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

My edit on the "Indian Institutes of Management" page
Hello - you reverted an edit I made to the page with the comment "Disagrees with the sourced text in the article itself. If you think it is incorrect, fix the text first." The edit I made does not conflict with the text in the article. The edit I made was to place IIM Rohtak above IIM Ranchi in the institutes table; you reverted that edit so now IIM Rohtak is placed below IIM Ranchi.

The text in the article says that IIM Rohtak was established on 30th June 2010; and IIM Ranchi a week later on 6th July 2010. The sources given for these points confirm these dates. So what is the problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aurorion (talk • contribs) 15:34, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The problem was I was having a brain fart. Fixed. --Muhandes (talk) 15:40, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
 Lynch 7  18:40, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I will try address these issue tonight. --Muhandes (talk) 18:48, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

ref Pakistan Post page spelling
I have noticed that twice now you have changed the spelling of « licences » on the PakPost page to « licenses ». I have noted both times that Pakistan uses British English so the American spelling of « licenses » is incorrect as per Wikipedia policy. The policy is to respect national varieties of English on the respective pages. You must respect others if you yourself wish to be respected. Kslall8765 (talk) 15:54, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Please be more careful when throwing accusations. It is you who made that spelling error, not me. I was actually quite confused when you changed the spelling there times back and forth, but I thought you must know what you are doing. As a matter of fact, I did not change the spelling even once, to the best of my knowledge. Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 15:59, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

I stand corrected !! Kslall8765 (talk) 16:13, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

chorbat
chorbat is an area of Gilgit Baltistan Pakistan. A very Beautiful Place — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ibaltistani (talk • contribs) 11:28, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --Muhandes (talk) 11:42, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

As you said that my article 'Sofia Noorbakhshia' is similar to another article, But i want to say you that the orignal name is Sofia Noorbakhshia not sufia nurbakhshia. i request you to Please Make correct it. I know that my english is not so good but i think that you have understand what i want to say to you. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ibaltistani (talk • contribs) 11:04, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


 * What you are proposing to do is called moving the page. Since this move is potentially controversial, as the original editors seem to think their name is the correct one, you will need to request a move. More specific instructions can be found in this section. I'll be happy to assist, but since I can't justify this move myself (as a matter of fact you did not give any justification) you will have to request the move yourself. Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 11:33, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Hey there
Like totally late; but here's the reply. Wifione  Message 17:42, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Additionally, should you wish to apply for administration, it would be a pleasure for me to nominate you. Wifione  Message 17:54, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the vote of confidence. I can't say the thought has not crossed my mind, but then again, I'm quite happy with the type of contributions I do these days, and I'm not sure how they will benefit from administrator status. This is probably because I know so little about what that status entails. I'd be happy to hear about that. --Muhandes (talk) 12:50, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Would you wish to read up Administrators? It'll give you a fair idea of the commonalities between some areas that you already are doing and how they can be helpful in the administration of the project. Please do not hesitate to write back to me for clarifications. Wifione  Message 19:49, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, this is probably exactly what I needed. I'll give it a thorough read, and I'm sure I'll be back to you, one way or another. --Muhandes (talk) 16:12, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Netherlands certification not working again
Posted this on the certification template talk page, I can't access the Dutch certifications and have tried to access it with different browsers with no luck. Upon clicking on the link, it doesn't seem to exist anymore. Erick (talk) 03:26, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I notice that about a week ago. Sad. --Muhandes (talk) 08:50, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh well. Anyways, it was pleasure working with you on certifications. Happy Holidays! Erick (talk) 18:03, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Why "was"? It is my continuing pleasure to work with other sensible editors. Happy holidays! --Muhandes (talk) 08:21, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Request a undeletion of my uplaoded file,
Hi, can you help my in the undeletion of the image "el cenit.jpg", uploaded by me. Its a self created image and is a magazine cover.

Waiting for reply, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Big101big (talk • contribs) 03:05, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * First, you uploaded the image at the commons not at the English Wikipedia, so you should undelete it there. Second, I am not an administrator on either this Wikipedia or on the commons so I cannot delete or undelete files. You can either approach the deleting admin, or try the undeletion process. Third, and probably most important, what you uploaded was a magazine cover. While I can take your word that you are the creator and owner of that image, I'm pretty sure that would not be enough and either an official release or non-free usage will be required. The former is a way in which the magazine administration releases the cover art to the public domain. This allows free use of the image everywhere. The second is a way in which the cover is used without permission, but with limited usage. If you wish, I can coach you through either process, just leave me a note. Best regards (and happy holidays) --Muhandes (talk) 08:19, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, for greeting me holidays, but i couldnt make any holidays this time. well that will be great if you guide me through these steps. i have claimed in the undeletion process, but yet with no responce. i keep watching this talk page section with you. regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Big101big (talk • contribs) 16:47, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * As I expected, the image was not undeleted since permission is required. You did not say which of the two options I listed above you prefer. I presume you want to release the image as free for all Wikipedias. What you need to do is to follow the instructions as if the image was already published elsewhere. Namely, add the text to the permission field of the image. Then send an email to the address on this page with with release license and details. You can find the exact text for the release form in the above page as well. Let me know if you need any help. --Muhandes (talk) 17:00, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

let me try this. Big101big (talk) 18:08, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, you did not upload the file. Upload the file, and in the permission field enter the OTRS part. --Muhandes (talk) 19:39, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Happy holidays

 * Same to you. --Muhandes (talk) 07:26, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Albino Rock
Hi,

Since you work with Australia lighthouses, you may be interested in a new article Albino Rock. FYI, Unscintillating (talk) 03:12, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Interestingly, we already have an photo of the Fresnel lens display at Townsville Maritime Museum, here, though it does not mention the Albino Rock light. As the lenses each has a small plaque visible in the photo, their identity is pretty certain. Either Rowlett is incorrect or there is a second exhibit. Perhaps we can ask someone who visited there to clarify. --Muhandes (talk) 07:23, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, just noticed a totally unrelated White Rock Conservation Park. I'll dis-confuse them. --Muhandes (talk) 07:35, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

LadyShauncia
Hello Muhandes.

I do not understand why you would say that I am using multiple accounts. The ONLY account that I have is "LadyShauncia"....and the ONLY page that I have ever worked on in Wikipedia is "Pikahsso". I simply logged in yesterday to add an NBA.com reference to the Pikahsso page, which is a reliable reference. Could you please advise me on your problem, because my recent edit was a normal one. comment added by LadyShauncia (talk • contribs) 16:01, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You probably did this by mistake, but isn't you're regular account is Ladyshauncia (edits here), not LadyShauncia (edits here) ? I find it extremly hard to believe these are not two accounts operated by the same person. --Muhandes (talk) 22:07, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Regarding Rolling Back the changes on IIMs page
You have rolled back my changes on []. I have opened a discussion on the talk page of IIMs page. Please discuss and re revert my changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikyreaper (talk • contribs) 16:53, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's all I asked for. --Muhandes (talk) 06:26, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

BIT Mesra Disambiguation
There is sufficient confusion between BIT Mesra and BITS Pilani to deserve the disambiguation notice. Why remove it when it is useful? It is not just my experience, a lot of students that I've met (from both Institutions) mention that their friends/ parents often think that one institute is part of the other. Please don't remove the notice again.  Pratik Mallya  &#9742; 06:02, 6 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Just to add some proof: http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070702042613AAoC88v

 Pratik Mallya  &#9742; 06:11, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If it's so important to you, I don't really mind, I just made some cosmetic changes per WP:HAT. --Muhandes (talk) 08:01, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

IIM Lucknow
Hi, I went through the article WP:NLIST, but could not fully comprehend. IIM Calcutta has a huge list of alumni, where most of people does not have individual wiki article. Can you Kindly Explain... Anbu121 (talk) 22:11, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:NLIST requires each member of a list to be notable, i.e. satisfy WP:BIO or WP:GNG. It is usually very difficult to demonstrate notability without an article, so adding members to list usually requires having an article. I'm not sure why you mention IIM Calcutta, I can't see any edits you (or me) made to IIM Calcutta. If you mean the list at that article is just as bad, that's not a big surprise, there are articles needing attention everywhere (see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS), but that's no reason to keep it in other articles. You are very welcome to correct that article as well. --Muhandes (talk) 22:28, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I just noticed someone else has started working on IIM Calcutta as well, since you seemed so worried about that, and I trimmed it a bit as well. --Muhandes (talk) 22:39, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Shahpuri
I don't know what source is actually relliable to wikipedia. But I was born in Sargodha and have lived all my life in this city. I have been to each and every small town in the district and know the city more then i know other place in the world. My ancestors have been living in the region since hundereds of years and speak the Shahpuri dialect. I don't know what kind of a source will be reliable to you but I am adding another one to here(its from the wikipedia itself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_language and here is the reference to a book: The Indo-Aryan Languages By Colin P. Masica(page 18) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeeshan jora (talk • contribs) 23:21, 10 January 2012 (UTC)


 * This guideline explains all about reliable sources. It is good to be knowledgeable about the subject you write about, but we do need reliable sources for verification. Otherwise, this becomes original research. If the source you added includes all the information, that should be enough. --Muhandes (talk) 14:33, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

1799Lahore
I did go ahead and block 1799Lahore based on your report at WP:AIV. I wanted to let you know, though, that those edits don't actually constitute vandalism. Wikipedia's definition of vandalism is very narrow, and can be found at WP:VANDAL--the quick summary is that vandalism is any edit taking to intentionally harm Wikipedia. While 1799Lahore's edits are disruptive, they're not vandalism. In general, problems of a more complex nature like that should be taken to WP:ANI. I went ahead and reviewed the issue anyway, and since the user's been warned several dozen times about various things, and, as far as I can tell, has never responded to any of them, blocking seemed necessary to protect the encyclopedia. If the user just waits out the block and starts being disruptive again a week later, please let me know on my talk page and I'll either handle it further or take it to ANI as is appropriate. Qwyrxian (talk) 12:42, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for both the action the clarification. --Muhandes (talk) 14:50, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

HI
I have uploaded a new photo on IIT Ghy, but that is no longer visible , have you deleted that ? Is there any problem with that photo, kindly let me know. Thanking you Vikramjit Kakati — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donvikro (talk • contribs) 19:17, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you mean the image now in the infobox? --Muhandes (talk) 19:28, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Christ University
My edit was based on information posted on the official website of the university. Please undo your delete. Thanks. Naayar (talk) 08:04, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It may be based on the website, but not on the source you provided. You claimed languages are "one of the main focuses" of the university. The source does not say that. You claimed "about 212 books were published by the university". The source does not say that. Wikipedia requires reliable sources for verifiability. --Muhandes (talk) 08:14, 16 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your response. I will check if I can get additional referencesNaayar (talk) 18:20, 16 January 2012 (UTC)


 * On University website it states to date 212 books are published in kannada. It is a significant number for a small university. That is the reason I added. Hope you will undo the delete. Thanks Naayar (talk) 06:34, 17 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I added a sub-section about publications. --Muhandes (talk) 07:18, 17 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I just fixed a typo error. Naayar (talk) 16:58, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: Your AIV report on 78.93.222.179
Thank you for your report on. I have however declined to block because the matter is evidently too complex to be handled at AIV. You should either find an administrator with knowledge of the subject, or raise the matter at the administrators' noticeboard. If you chose the latter, you'll need to provide more information so administrators can decide what to do.

If you have further questions, please don't hesitate to ask me on my [ talk page]. Cheers! -- Luk   18:41, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I reported at ANI. --Muhandes (talk) 19:30, 17 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I have responded to your report at ANI, and blocked the IP for a short token period. Please feel welcome to contact me on my talk page if the problem continues: I will be perfectly willing to block for longer if this token gesture does not convey the message. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:12, 19 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the action and the response (also thanks for restoring my faith in ANI, I sometimes wonder why I bother)--Muhandes (talk) 09:16, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately I know only too well what you mean about ANI. I rarely go there, because I find it is usually a waste of time, often full of silly arguments that achieve nothing. This time I only dealt with the ANI report because I saw your link to it from the IP talk page. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:06, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Without naming specific editors, it sometimes looks like all the trolls go to ANI. How Wikipedia manages to operate is a mystery, but the fact is, more often than not, some reasonable admin catches my comments and deals with them. --Muhandes (talk) 13:16, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

CBIT
The change you made in the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaitanya_Bharathi_Institute_of_Technology means that CBIT is NOT affiliated to Osmania University anymore. Is that correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azylber (talk • contribs) 10:56, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * All I did was open a parenthesis for readability, but you are correct, that may be misleading, so I removed it. Thanks for the note. --Muhandes (talk) 11:05, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

VIT merge
thanx for merging. Actually i was busy with examinations.--Alok Prasad (talk) 16:36, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, it was an easy merge since there was almost nothing useful in the merged articles. Next time, just say you are busy, I will be happy to assist again. --Muhandes (talk) 16:38, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 21:59, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Akko Lighthouse 1949.jpg
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Akko Lighthouse 1949.jpg, has been listed at Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Bulwersator (talk) 12:39, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Re:File:Akko Lighthouse 1949.jpg

 * [#File:Akko_Lighthouse_1949.jpg Re:File:Akko Lighthouse 1949.jpg]

Unfortunately yes - and as result it can not be used on enwiki or commons :( Bulwersator (talk) 13:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I just wanted to make sure. I guess the only possible place for it is the hewiki. --Muhandes (talk) 13:14, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Images in Olongapo page
Hello, the photo of Marikit Park at the Olongapo page which you have deleted had an appropriate email sent regarding the copyright dispute.

Please review the email since someone did not reply nor verified the status of the image.

Thanks --War1addict (talk) 08:39, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I am not an administrator so I could not have deleted any photo you uploaded. What I did was that I tagged some files which lacked permission, and an administrator removed them since no permission tag was added for seven days. If you want to upload a file and send permission by email, add at the top of the description page. Feel free to ask any questions, I'd be happy to assist. --Muhandes (talk) 08:45, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response. Well I did added the OTRS Pending tag, and its weird why no one checked on the email. Is it ok if I reupload it again and how do I include the copyright properly? I already have the permission from the person who took the photo. Thanks! --War1addict (talk) 14:40, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I watched over those files quite closely, and I'm fairly certain I did not see an OTRS-pending tag. As the files are removed I can't check what the problem is and why you think you added such a tag where my recollection is that you did not. Of course it could be just my bad memory, but in my experience OTRS pending files are not removed, sometimes even for months. It should be OK to re-upload the images with a proper license and OTRS pending tag. If you want help in including the copyright properly I need to know what license the author agrees to. --Muhandes (talk) 15:03, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well the author said that to email him for usage of his photos in Flickr. I emailed him and so he responded and said that the image can be used on this Wikipedia article free for use and just leave a credit for his name and website URL. He also provided me the original photo. So I believe that it falls under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 license. Correct me if I'm wrong though. --War1addict (talk) 13:24, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If he only allows usage in the Wikipedia article that's not a license at all. He needs to release it to everyone for commercial usage etc. see WP:CONSENT for the full text. If he is on flickr all they need to do is change the flickr license. I can send you instructions for how to do that if he does not know how. --Muhandes (talk) 14:06, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well there might be a problem with that, because on his Flickr account, the image is edited while the one he gave me is the original. Wouldn't that make a confusion which of the two files is licensed? The edited one or the original one? --War1addict (talk) 14:17, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Right you are. So the best would be to upload the original image, tag it with CC-BY-SA and with OTRS pending, and have him send an email like in WP:CONSENT. I did that quite a number a times in the past, and while it may take time, the image remains. --Muhandes (talk) 14:53, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've already uploaded the image and sent the email. I Hope it gets accepted! By the way, a bit off topic: Is it possible or allowed to add a Transportation route (with Map images) section on that same article? --War1addict (talk) 16:20, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

I notice that the email was received but was not found to be sufficient. You should have got an email in response saying what the problem is. Regarding your other question, I'm not really sure what you mean by "Transportation route". You can certainly add a transportation section describing the major modes of transportation, if you have reliable sources. You can also add a map, say a map of bus routes, if the map is not copyright protected (most of them are copyright protected), but don't overdo it. Is that what you were looking for? If not, maybe you have another article with such a section you can point me to? --Muhandes (talk) 16:36, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, yes its the kind of Bus routes that I am referring to. I think I have to make my own version of the map though since I don't know if they are copyrighted. Anyway, thanks for your help! This would make the article better! --War1addict (talk) 16:45, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Just make sure that if you are using some base map, that map is in the public domain. And keep feeling free to ask me if you have any request or question. --Muhandes (talk) 16:49, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I was looking for some base maps but I can't find any up to date maps available. Is Google Maps okay? If so, what kind of license must be used to upload it? Thanks! Oh and I hope I'm not bothering you too much :) --War1addict (talk) 09:45, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * You are not bothering me at all, and I am happy to assist. I'm afraid Google maps is not free, and I know that since I was involved in deletion of maps based on Google maps just yesterday (see here). I have no idea where you can find free maps, especially up to date ones. Oddly, organizations have a tendency to want to own maps they payed for or worked hard to obtain :) Sorry I could not help.
 * Oh thank you for assisting. By the way, what do you think of OpenStreetMaps? They have their maps under Creative Commons so do you suggest me using their map instead? --War1addict (talk) 11:42, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * OpenStreetMap is OK, see Category:OpenStreetMap maps, it has some instructions on how to tag the license. --Muhandes (talk) 14:38, 1 February 2012 (UTC)