User talk:Munalali

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Proposed deletion of Faith and Science


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== Correction. Al-Ali family of Hai'il are unrelated to Al-Ali tribe and has to be deleted from this page. Al-Ali family are descendants of another tribe called Shammar.--Munalali (talk) 10:37, 2 May 2010 (UTC) ==

Please remove the first section of Al-Ali tribe page because: 1) Al Ali who ruled Ha'il until 1921 are not a tribe, but a family. 2) they are not members of Al-Ali tribe, but are members of a totally unrelated Arabic tribe called Shammar. Thus they are irrelevant to this page. You may wish to remove to another page with an appropriate title.

Please add the following introductory passage instead:

Al-Ali tribe is an Arabic tribe which is an offshoot of Bani Malik tribe of the Arabian Peninsula. Most members of the tribe relocated in various neighboring countries; UAE, Qatar,Bahrain,Jordan and Iraq

Unblocking
Please unblock. Munalali (talk) 19:20, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Declined Unblocking
TNXman...this is cruel. Nothing strange about 4 members of the same family( husband, wife and their boys living together) using the same computer and provider. Furthermore,we are all interested in the article (Al-Ali tribe) because it is our own tribe and Alalimun is the originater of the article. The 4 accounts were collaterally automatically blocked none of our fault....Having 4 accounts on one IP per se is not a recognized reason for blocking. We love Wikipedia and have made many original contributions to it. Are you suggesting that we should buy a computor for each one of us and subscribe with 4 different internet providers to have different IP's in order to contribute ?. Please unblock Munalali (talk) 20:40, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Declined Unblocking TNXman...this is cruel. Nothing strange about 4 members of the same family( husband, wife and their boys living together) using the same computer and provider. Furthermore,we are all interested in the article (Al-Ali tribe) because we are members of this tribe and Alalimun is the originater of the article. The 4 accounts were collaterally automatically blocked none of our fault....Having 4 accounts on one IP per se is not a recognized reason for blocking. We love Wikipedia and have made many original contributions to it. Are you suggesting that we should buy a computor for each one of us and subscribe with 4 different internet providers to have different IP's in order to contribute ?. Please unblock.Munalali (talk) 21:33, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Having four accounts from one IP making essentially the same edits is basically trouble, and usually has meant bad behavior. How can we admins tell the difference between four individuals and one person pretending to be four individuals? --jpgordon:==( o ) 21:49, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Inadvertent multiple accounts
But we were unaware of this as being unacceptable...Wikipedia has an encyclopedia (in its own right) of information and regulations, and it is impossible to read it all...which makes it a pitfall for the unwary. Indefinite blockage of 4 accounts for such a benign reason is tyranical.I hope that you reconsider. Munalali (talk) 09:45, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Unblocking account
BWilkin ...I regret that you felt badly about describing the process of unfair blocking of our accounts as "tyranical", while you have personally admitted that you are tyranic. You have no right to question my integrity and insult my intelligance as being already aware of the risk of multiple accounts...It is only the idiots who do that or think that one can do it and risk an acount. We have so far originated 4 artcles and made valuable corrections to many others. Every rule, even the heavenly, has exceptions. I will wait for the other adminstraters input.

Give me this chance
Our case has become so fragmented into many talks, which made it difficult for the admins. to follow up. This is a nut-shell of what has happened : Me and my family have 4 accounts ( inadvertantly)naturally using the same IP of the same internet provider, all been blocked automatically collaterally as a result of an action undertaken by another editor Robert Tagart. We applied for unblocking and were let to know that having 4 accounts on the same IP is irregular, which honestly was news to me and my family. This was followed by direct indefinite blocking for multiplicity. We now know why was it blocked, will abide to the rules, and try to read them this time (you will agree they are enormous), and promise to be constructive contributers. We have collectively created 4 original articles one of which is" Al-Ali tribe", and made many valuable corrections. We are members of Al-Ali tribe and that is why we were all intersted in that article. I admit that I have occasionally hopped into my family's accounts when my account was automatically collaterally blocked for few days in the past and lazily found it easier to wait and use another account rather than to ask for auto.unblocking.


 * Even in your unblock request, you're behaving as if the four of you are one person- 'we' understand the rules, 'we' promise to be constructive contributors. At least one of you has caused significant problems.  Since you all edit the same articles in the same way, we can't tell you apart- so we don't know which individual is which, or who has made which edits.  That makes it impossible to evaluate any one of the four of you, to look at one person's edits and decide whether that one person should be unblocked.  -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:00, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

???
I am at a loss as to what shall I do to settle this with the admins.......and I agree that admins. do what they do in good will and faith ..but why is the scepticism and cynicism?...some apparently enjoy it.
 * The fact of the matter is that you continue to make frivolous and pointless unblock requests. After being denied several times on this page, you proceeded to request an unblock of an autoblock and then post an empty template. It's clear that you have no intention of being a constructive or cooperative editor and thus, I am revoking your talkpage access another admin removed your talkpage access while I was in the process of doing it myself. --Smashvilletalk 21:36, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * We are skeptical because we have seen, literally, thousands of people say the same things you are saying, and very, very few of them ever go on to make useful edits. The ones who do, are generally able to clearly explain what the rules are and how they will follow them in the future.  You can't even explain which of four people you are, or work out how to format an unblock request. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:37, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * This, once again, does not answer the reasons for your block. You've requested this a half dozen times in the past 24 hours, so I've revoked your talk page access to prevent further nonsense. ~  Amory ( u  •  t  •  c ) 21:38, 14 May 2010 (UTC)