User talk:Mungo Kitsch/Archive 3

Re: Xenosapien
You'd never say "I have a vinyl" or anything like that, the closest you come is "I have Xenosapien on vinyl". So it would be "record" or "records". I found this out from wiktionary:, after someone told me the same thing after I used "vinyls"!

By the way, I've seen your name on a number of articles I also watch/edit, you do good work! MrMoustacheMM (talk) 04:43, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Demo 98/99
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Listing categories for speedy renaming
Hi Backtable

When adding requests to Categories for discussion/Speedy, please add new entries at the top of the list, rather than at the bottom (as you did in this edit). Thanks! -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:22, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Kid Rock
Hello. I'm guessing that your first comment on Kid Rock's talk page will also be your only one since you have stated that you, "don't usually deal with musicians who have the popularity of Kid Rock." I have one simple question: why do you find the subject skeptical? There are numerous sources linking him to the style. RG (talk) 15:58, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually the link is to a book listed in the reference section right above the "Inline" portion of the article, not a different page. One of them is Rock & Roll: A Social History (the book and specifically the section citing Kid Rock as nu metal can be seen in this google books link.) The other book listed in the reference section is Ian Christe's Sound of the Beast: The Complete Headbanging History of Heavy Metal. The third source was from Marcus Reeves and a book which User:Blackmetalbaz claimed was 100 percent reliable(which too can be viewed on google books.) I also found a ref from MTV citing him in the field. Regardless I don't want to worry you about a subject that you have little interest in. Take care. RG (talk) 05:09, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

File copyright problem with File:The_Rant.jpg
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 * As for "see below", I wasn't talking directly at you. Also, as you might noticed, I have untagged the deletion of the article, although removing the template completely could automatically get reverted. mechamind 9 0 15:40, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

CMT cat poll
When you say you "advocate" the cat, does that mean the same thing as "support"? Eugene (talk) 05:48, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

re: Epica
Thanks for the notice. I don't know what went wrong the first time, haven't really been doing a lot of this janitorial stuff for the last few months. Anyway, everything should be in order now. Cheers, —Ruud 00:54, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Misanthrope
I know all this about www.metal-archives.com but the Misanthrope's website was unavailable at the time. It still is and that's also why the cover picture is not included. If you go see the first album I added, Libertine Humiliations, the reference is the band's website. But I actually have these albums so the links are just procedural... Thanks! zubrowka 74 14:43, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Nahhhh, I don't think so. I get a 403 Forbidden. It's bad config or it's down for maintenance. Have faith! zubrowka 74 20:37, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Dark house
hey mate i was wondering if you could help me find the list that was on the deleted page Dark House? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uhuhuh8989, contributions (talk) 01:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Wanna Barnstar
Hi, I'd like to invite you to participate in the Guild of Copy Editors July 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive. In May, about 30 editors helped remove the tag from 1175 articles. The backlog is still over 7500 articles, and extends back to the beginning of 2008! We really need your help to reduce it. Copyediting just a couple articles can qualify you for a barnstar. Serious copyeditors can win prestigious and exclusive rewards. See the event page for more information. And thanks for your consideration. Homework2 Talk What I do!  03:23, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I signed up for that program; thank you for telling me about it. However, I do not know if I have that User:Dr_pda/prosesize.js code implemented correctly. I tried to implant it on two subpages created for the purpose of this code, but I really don't know if I am doing it right. Check out User:Backtable/vector.js and User:Backtable/vector.css if you can help; thanks again. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 05:19, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, I do see the "page size" option to the left. That does look like the code is at work, then. I'm looking forward to the July contest. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 05:26, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for signing up for the July Backlog Elimination Drive! The copyedit backlog stretches back two and a half years, all the way back to the beginning of 2008! We're really going to need all the help we can muster to get it down to a manageable number. We've ambitiously set a goal of clearing all of 2008 from the backlog this month. In order to do that, we're going to need more participants. Is there anyone that you can invite or ask to participate with you? If so, we're offering an award to the person who brings in the most referrals. Just notify ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! or Diannaa  TALK of who your referrals are. Once again, thanks for your support! Diannaa  TALK 14:01, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoops. Sorry dude. Homework2  Talk What I do!  14:54, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * @Hereforhomework2: I don't know why you're sorry, but that's okay. Again, it does seem to be working as it should. :) Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 18:37, 12 June 2010 (UTC)


 * @Diannaa: I'm glad I could sign up for it. Hopefully, I'll be able to do some work in that respect. I want the participants to get a desirable amount accomplished and have fun while doing it. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 18:37, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Swami Krishnananda
Dear Backtable,

I am the principle author of the Swami Krishnananda page. Thank you for your recent edit to "Influence" section of that page. Your rephrasing of the closing sentence of the section makes sense. I just made two minor edits to your work, the reason for which being that I believe an "Influence" section of a biographical article should emphasize the individual's accomplishments.

I replaced "the" with "this" before the word "institution," to emphasize the significance of the the Divine Life Society. And I slipped in "many" before "works of theological and philosophical literature." Swami Krishnananda was indeed a very prolific author, and I do not feel that use of the word "many" is out of place in the influence section of the article.

I am glad to see that you are interested in religion and philosophy. Do you know much about Swami Krishnananda or Swami Sivananda?

Regards,

Advedom (talk) 02:18, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Dear Backtable,

I noticed that you expressed concern at the Religion Discussion Board about some of the phrasing in the Swami Krishnananda article and thought you might be interested in reading this letter that I recently wrote to user Goethean, who has expressed similar concerns. The Swami Krishnananda article was my first Wikipedia effort, so I am still in the process of familiarizing myself with all of the site’s polices.

You are not alone. Most of the lay public has not heard of Krishnananda or Sivananda. Sad. They were tantamount to Plato and Aristotle. They also happened to be fully Self-realized God-men. If you are interested in learning more about religion and philosophy from an excellent source, these men are a great place to start. Several of Krishnananda's books in PDF format are linked to the article; all of his work is available free of charge in PDF format.

Advedom (talk) 04:22, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Dear Goethean,

Though my collaborators and I did spearhead the Swami Krishnananda page, including writing all of its content and doing all associated research thus far, we by no means wish to claim ownership of the article. We are fully aware of the open and collaborative nature of Wikipedia, and are more than willing to work with other editors in this capacity to improve the page. However, we are quite knowledgeable about Krishnananda and his work, and it may be helpful if we could maintain a leadership position on the project until it fully complies with Wikipedia policy. Either way, we intend to comply with that policy.

One of the missions of the institution that Swami Krishnananda ran for more than 40 years—the Divine Life Society—is the free dissemination of spiritual, religious, and philosophical literature. In accordance with that mission, Krishnananda did not promote nor profit monetarily from his writing or teaching. Therefore, Krishnananda’s work is not known much to the lay public. It has been challenging for us, then, to find impartial viewpoints about him outside of a relatively small, albeit highly respected, academic community, some of the makeup of which includes Dr. Stephen Phillips, Dr. Clooney, Dr. Grayling, and Dr. Pintchman—the professors cited as references in the article. According to one of our researchers, these professors have used Krishnananda's work in their lecturing, and do in fact assert that he was a significant 20th century theologian and philosopher. This assertion is testified further by Krishnananda’s extensive body of work, which speaks for itself, and by consensus among serious theologians and philosophers.

Essentially the article consists of three phases: biographical, academic, and contextual. The sources for the work in the first two phases have been cited amply with references to biographical information on Krishnananda published at Swami-Krishnananda.org, by Krishnananda’s own scholarly work, and by a few sources relating to the defining of key terms and concepts. Over half of the citations in the article correspond to these sources. The other phase of the article is “contextual,”—that is, related to the perspective with which the reader will view Swami Krishnananda. This phase of the article consists of the 13 assertions connected with the contested university professor references. Without these assertions, by virtue that Krishnananda is not well-known outside of religious and academic circles, the lay reader will have difficulty in fully appreciating the scope and scale of Krishnananda’s life and work, and therefore may not take the time to read the article in its entirety. For this reason, it is important to us that these assertions, which I can assure you are accurate, remain in the article.

With the exception of a few over-generalized correlations of statements in regards to Krishnananda’s work and Swami-Krishnananda.org, which I will soon correct, the only references in the article that remain unacceptable as per Wikipedia policy are the aforementioned which correspond to Dr. Stephen Phillips, Dr. Clooney, Dr. Grayling, and Dr. Pintchman. I will work diligently to get in touch with these individuals in an effort to obtain copies of their published material—course materials, syllabi, and work in academic journals—in which they have referred favorably to Swami Krishnananda and his work. I could provide quotations of theirs to such effect immediately, but as I understand it, this would be deemed by Wikipedia as “original research.” These professors are very busy people, so it may take some time for me to obtain copies of, or find online locations for, their published comments as regards Swami Krishnananda and his work. If I am unable to locate this material in a timely fashion, perhaps you and I can collaborate to find sources elsewhere which can attest to the validity of the 13 assertions made in the “contextual” phase of the article.

Unfortunately, religion is under attack today. The reasons for this are rooted in ignorance. However, the study of a man like Swami Krishnananda, who had an unblemished record, who lived a life of admirable self-discipline, who selflessly served millions of people, and who left behind an ocean of knowledge, all in the name of religion, can replace this ignorance with an understanding of what the ancient science is really about.

Om,

Advedom (talk) 04:22, 15 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Dear Backtable,


 * I am glad you found the letter interesting. I appreciated your concerns and wanted you to understand my point of view.


 * Thank you for your kind words; they mean a lot coming from an editor as experienced as yourself. I marvel at the fact that you are still in high school. You are obviously a very intelligent and thoughtful young person. It's good to know they still exist! We commend you on all of your hard work at Wikipedia. Very impressive! You obviously have a great passion for and understanding of the music art form. My favorite era of music is the 1980s; beautiful, angelic stuff. Beyond that, I would go back to Orbison, Holly, Perkins, Dion and the Belmonts, Richard, Berry, etc. And of course classical music. I have been listening to Handel's "The Arrival of the Queen of Sheba" lately.


 * You are in for a treat studying Swami Krishnananda and Swami Sivananda. You can become very well-rounded in philosophy especially, by reading Krishnananda's work, as he not only expounded the Vedanta, but also much of Western philosophy. The page that we created for him is an excellent introduction to his work. From there, I would recommend his book The Realization of the Absolute and Swami Sivananda's Thought Power, both of which are available for free PDF download. In the "External Links" section of the article you will find several links to videos of Krishnananda lecturing. What was amazing about Krishnananda is that all of his lectures were delivered extempore, that is, without any kind of preparation. The complexity of the subjects he spoke on notwithstanding, you will note that he uses no texts and speaks with perfect grammar without using pause utterances of any kind. I have never heard of anyone who could do that.


 * Keep up all the excellent work:)


 * Advedom (talk) 02:37, 16 June 2010 (UTC)


 * It is pretty incredible. Even our top orators--Lincoln, JFK, FDR, Churchill, King, etc.--relied on texts. Krishnananda's 1987 speech The Purpose of the Advent of Swami Sivananda--a video link to which is provided in the article--is an exemplifcation of his skill as an orator. Advedom (talk) 05:04, 16 June 2010 (UTC)


 * PS -- Cheers on your 3CD set of Handel's Messiah opera. That is a nice present to receive. Baroque is my favorite classical style. Advedom (talk) 05:10, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi
Thanx 4 understanding everything, there alot of Dicks out there. On websites like Spirit of metal and metal archives, those sites are practically like any other site where it can be edited. I just tend to follow them cos there metal and I got 2 sites going. Yes they one of there names were Melancholium and Anders stated that in an Interview so that may have some connection with 1987. If you can help me out with that claim that would be great, thnx. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Motaros (talk) 07:25, 17 June, 2010 (UTC)

Here's the interview, http://heavymetal.about.com/od/interviews/a/katatoniainterview_2.htm. Nymf has been battling edits with me for over a year now and I don't know why. I try to make it proper and Nymf messes it up. Do some research on Nymf cause I found that person got there old account blocked so nymf is a new name. Sounds like trouble to me. Plus Nymf battles edits with other people so I wouldn't trust anything Nymf says like sometimes I mess up but I never do an edit for made up reasons. thnx for the postin polices --Motaros (talk) 09:46, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Motaros, I have never had my account blocked, nor do I mess things up. I revert your erroneous edits as they are just that - erroneous. I have (as have others) explained these WP policies and guidelines on more than one occasion to you, but you choose to ignore them.


 * Backtable, sorry for commenting on this at your talk page. Nymf hideliho! 10:53, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

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 * That is cool. I have some questions, though. I remember that I managed an article before this drive began, in June. It was a copy-edit-tagged article that was like that since February 2008. Would that count towards this drive or not? I may or may not have questions for you later on, but that is something I am wondering for now. Thanks. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 04:47, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Action_Bullet
Thanks very much for your help with this. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 07:39, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Faraz Anwar
Settle down, Ray, and please don't pull the trigger so quickly. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 02:35, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, if you have a moment and feel like browsing around a bit more for some sources (maybe for that band of his), that would be of great help to the article. Thanks, and take care, Drmies (talk) 14:24, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Delirium Tremens
oh, this is a whole new language for me, I'm really struggling. Thank you for helping with the page, Ray and can you please let me know any other hints or tips you may have as I dont want to incur the wrath of the wikipedia community involuntarily! Thanks! ladamanera Ladamanera 18:58, 15 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ladamanera (talk • contribs)

Backtable, see also User talk:Chzz - might help explain the story a bit.  Chzz  ►

My museum
Thank you for adding links to other artists, and also thank you for visiting my museum. The Raptor Let's talk/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 19:42, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Second vote on suggested change to lede regarding position of The Catholic Church on meditation
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Elliott Smith
I'd just started some tidying up on the pages on some of his albums, one of which was going to be culling all those reviews on that page, only to find you beat me to it by a day. I'd noticed it a while ago but hadn't got round to it. An IP editor has been adding lots of reviews and "best of the 90s" list links to most of the ES album pages, leaving them all a bit unwieldy in different ways, and silently reverting even efforts to properly format some of his additions for him.  N-HH   talk / edits  18:03, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the information about album ratings. Spada II ♪♫ (talk) 05:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Histmerge?

 * You put in this histmerge request:
 * User talk:Backtable/Archive 1 to User talk:Backtable My personal talk page has a scattered history log, as I made a cut and paste move for the first archive. The second archive for my talk page is okay. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 03:48, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * However, the page User talk:Backtable starts again from blank and there is no text continuity between these two pages. I always archive my user talk page this way: I move the talk page to the archive name, and then cut-and-paste the permanent matter back to the talk page name. This stops the current talk page's history from over the years getting too long and hitting the '5000 edits' long-delete-restriction limit, and it keeps the old messages with their edit history. At the moment the old messages are with their edit history in User talk:Backtable/Archive 1: this seems satisfactory to me. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:53, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

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secret page
Thanks for telling me! I'll delete it.  The Doomsday Machine!   (Blastoff!)  14:13, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

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