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Draft of Niamh O'Hara - Submission declined on 14 January 2024 by MurielMary
Good evening MurielMary. I was hoping to clarify the source content requirement with you.

After reviewing the links that you attached, I think that the only two questionable sources on the article would be the patents that Dr. O'Hara is featured on. Since peer-reviewed articles make up the bulk of the sources, and those are considered non-self published, I would think those are fine.

My question would be: if I remove the two sources from her patents, are the rest of the sources ok?

Is the format correct to be published, as well? Want to make sure it will upload correctly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rs923 (talk • contribs) 03:03, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Request on 11:58:44, 2 January 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Endlessnapalm
Hello! I'm really unsure why this page was denied. She is a foremost figure in the Mothers of Gynecology Movement which has it's own wikipedia page. As an artist, her work was literally called notable by the New York Times: "Browder’s work has been featured in The New York Times as a notable representation of Montgomery’s complicated past[27] and as a representation of the evolution of civil rights[28] as well as commemorating the centennial ratification of women’s right to vote.[29]"

I do not understand, especially when other not-as-notable people seem to get stub articles approved. Is it because Black Lives Matter etc doesn't seem to interest people? Please advise.

Re: decline due to lack of sources.

I'm just so confused because the page has sources from USA Today, PBS Newshour, The New York Times, and The Boston Globe. These are independent and reliable and objective news sources. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Endlessnapalm (talk • contribs) 04:26, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Endlessnapalm (talk) 11:58, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, the reason I declined the draft is that there is not enough evidence of notability in independent, objective, reliable sources - the article needs at least three sources. You are welcome to re-submit the draft again and wait for another reviewer to look at it. MurielMary (talk) 12:12, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Akane Yamaguchi
Hello. Help cleanup. Thanks you. Jdmfs (talk) 06:46, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Help with a draft
Hello there! I once made a draft for American singer Draft:Gabi DeMartino in July 2021 and you declined it (I totally understand why) but I think since I added more sources could you re-review it? Also both members of the Niki and Gabi duo has gone solo in 2019 so I think they need individual articles so it would be more organized and understandable, just like the Chloe x Halle members, if you could help me with making the Gabi DeMartino draft much better to become an actual article it would mean a lot, thank you and have a great day! Gabriella Grande (talk) 07:04, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Nina Krajnik declined
Hi @MurielMary - I see that you declined Draft:Nina_Krajnik who is a public intelectual whose work is covered in several international media without giving precise information what is missing from the page as proposed. I also noticed you were the author of Ella_Cooke (nurse who was killed in an accident while on active service in Egypt in World War I)... So I wonder if you are maybe able to explain how these two can compare in terms of visibility, notability and relevance considering also diverse reference sources? I hope it is not the anglo-centric bias on your side, as Wikipedia is global project in different languages. -- Zblace (talk) 11:03, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Rita Humphries-Lewin
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Sibella Ross
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February with Women in Red
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Pacific Arts Aotearoa
Hi MurielMary, thanks for joining the Pacific art Aotearoa project. It would be wonderful if you can work on biographies. Please check on the project page before you start on a bio so you are not working on articles the Wikipedian in Residents are intending to create a draft for, and add what you are doing / what you do. I suggest using the Arts Pasifika Awards and the Pacific Legacy Project to find subjects.

There are lots of red links! Many thanks Pakoire (talk) 02:14, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Request on 08:16:39, 13 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by 125.238.241.141
Hi MurieMary, thanks for getting back to me about my article.

You made two comments on why this article was not accepted, which I hope you can clarify. The first one was for me to make a statement of my conflict. (i was to believe that this was resolved previously with another reviewer and since has not come up" so please let me know why you have flagged this and they dit not since my first review.) Second comment was about the subject not meeting the notability criteria for a write. Can you please confirm where I can find this criteria as the "subject" is a known author across the world (yes small) but has 3 poetry books, 1 #1 best selling "published" children's book in New Zealand, with two additional books coming out. Can you confirm how they do not meet the criteria?

Any assistance to get this approved would be appreciated. Many thanks :)

125.238.241.141 (talk) 08:16, 13 February 2022 (UTC) Hi, apologies, I should have drawn your attention to the relevant Wikipedia policy, in this case on conflicts of interest, in order to make it clear for you what you need to do in respect to editing an article about your wife. Please read the policy here and follow the instructions on how to disclose the COI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#How_to_disclose_a_COI
 * With regards to why another reviewer didn't mention this, I don't know! Maybe they weren't completely familiar with the requirements of the COI policy.
 * With regards to the question of the notability of the subject, I'll put my comments over on the article. MurielMary (talk) 09:36, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi MurieMary, thanks for coming back to me on this and noting the information for the criteria. Just so you know, Jess is regarded a notable writer here in New Zealand. Her children's books reached number 1 best seller within the first week of its release, and it's included in school curriculums and ECE learning centres, she has been contracted to write another two as well. Her poetry books have remained in the top 20 family poetry chart for the past year on Amazon, her work has featured in Mindful Parenting Magazine, one of Australia's biggest parenting magazines for 4 months running, and had a two page spread in Woman's Day magazine in NZ. Her Instagram following is 182,000 and her Facebook is 82,000. She has featured on many podcasts, one is to be released this week on The Motherkind Podcast which is the top family podcast in the UK. There are a lot of external links I initially included to support her notability, yet I was told to remove them as they were external links and just have them as references. Can you please explain if this doesn't meet the criteria then what else do we need to meet it? Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrewUrlichs (talk • contribs) 03:58, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Drew, please look at the list of criteria for notability of a writer on Wikipedia (the link is in my comment on the draft). You need to show evidence that the subject of the article meets those criteria. I don't think the evidence is sufficient. You are welcome to re-submit the draft if you wish to get the opinion of a different reviewer. MurielMary (talk) 04:54, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks MurieMary, I will resubmit for approval soon as I do believe it meets the criteria, especially for the work that has been done in this part of the world, with the largest following in the US. I would like to point out a comparison for you to assist with your decision making. Can you clarity how this wiki with little information or evidence of the person was approved as what I have put in looks like it has plenty compared. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Brent_Findlay Thanks again for everything. Drew — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrewUrlichs (talk • contribs) 21:16, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Drew. There is limited value to comparing a published biography to your wife's draft. There are some biographies published on WP which have gotten past the usually rigorous checking systems for new articles and have been published when they probably shouldn't have. That doesn't mean that more biographies of subjects who don't meet the notability criteria should be published as well. But, in this case, Findlay is a cricketer and he appears to meet the notability criteria for cricketers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(sports)#Cricket If you don't think the page (or any other page on WP) should remain in the encyclopedia you are welcome to nominate it for deletion here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion MurielMary (talk) 08:30, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:AFC Helper News
Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest. Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
 * The template db-afc-move has been created - this template is similar to db-move when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Female Mime 1893-1962, UK
Hello MurielMary

I am still finding my way around the Wiki system, so I hope this is the correct way to contact you.

I have submitted a biography about a woman and I would be grateful if you could tell me if I need to make any changes, please. I have endeavoured to demonstrate that she was pioneering and influential; developing and teaching her own mime technique, plus speech, drama, movement, and voice.

I appreciate that NZ is your main area of interest and there is a brief connection, in that two of her pupils went on to open their own school of dance and mime in New Zealand (1922 onwards).

The subject is Irene Mawer.

Thank you in advance. Janet Fizz Curtis JanetFizzCurtis (talk) 09:50, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

March editathons
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Recent biographies
Hi there, MurielMary, and thanks for all your efforts to improve our coverage of women and for encouraging the involvement of new contributors. I am however a little concerned about the Start rating you have given to some of the short articles you have recently created. I see that Rachel Buckland has only 111 words of running text and Minnie Izett only 65. Both ORES and Rater clearly advise a Stub rating. As a result I've now rerated them. There is sometimes a case for allocating a stub rating to historical people for whom there is little chance of an article being expanded. For these two artists who died in the first half of the 20th century, I would be surprised if no more useful information exists, although it might not be immediately available on the internet. It often helps to allocate stub status to an article as many editors seem to prefer working on existing articles rather than creating new ones. By the way, I'm happy to see the successful outcomes of Meetup/Aotearoa New Zealand Online/International Women's Day 2022 which has just been completed. Keep up the good work and let me know if ever you think I can help you along.--Ipigott (talk) 10:52, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Kia ora and thank you so much for your message! You are absolutely right of course about the incorrect rating on those articles. In my haste to create articles during this weekend's editathon I very lazily copied + pasted the talk page of another new article onto the talk page of those, and didn't notice that I was using the talk page of an article which had already been rated! Thus, copying over the rating (start) in addition to the list of projects! Thank you for the re-rating and corrections, much appreciated. Cheers, MM MurielMary (talk) 14:20, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear it was only a copy and paste error. It happens to us all. I must say I'm really impressed with the considerable number of new biographies of New Zealand women created during your weekend event.--Ipigott (talk) 16:43, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Ipigott. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Gwyneth Richardson, and have marked it as unreviewed. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

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April Editathons from Women in Red
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Draft:Lena Stamm
Hello! Thank you so much for taking the time to review my draft. I had some questions about how to improve it for possible resubmission. If these questions should be put on the helpdesk instead please let me know!

Regarding the filmography and theatre sections, I will definitely update with references. The reason I had not done so before was that looking at other actresses Wikipedia pages, a lot of them did not have references for everything in their filmography etc, so I assumed that if the item in the list had a reference in the main body then it didn’t need one in the filmography etc. I am now assuming that is not the case?

In terms of notability, the subject’s short film that she wrote, produced, directed and starred in has won several awards at international film festivals. I have used interviews with her and two of those film festivals as references. Are these not notable enough? Is there a certain level of publication/magazine/awards body etc that she needs to have engaged with to be considered notable? Or is it that the quality of referencing that I have to support these facts is not strong enough?

Finally, do you think that this page would be better placed on the German Wikipedia platform? I realise that most of my sources and references are for German TV/film/theatre etc, so do you think she would she be deemed more notable on that platform?

Sorry for the amount of questions! I just want to try and understand as best as I can, so that I can make good Wikipedia articles :)

Thank you again for your time. --Daisycat32 (talk) 11:35, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there, I've put your questions on the talk page of the article and answered them as best I can. All the best! MurielMary (talk) 11:42, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! :) Daisycat32 (talk) 12:44, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

May Women in Red events
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Draft:Vladislav Sviblov
Hello. Please see this draft. There were objections about the sources. As a result, dubious sources were removed as well as some fragments of the text. Thanks. Валерий Пасько (talk) 17:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

A question regarding Maya Gelfman Draft - Negative Answer from May 7th 2022
Hello, hope this message finds you well. I was hoping to approach you with a question regarding the declined submission notice I received dated from May 7th. In regards to Maya Gelfman's Wikipedia draft.

I wanted to ask what else can I offer as proof that Mrs. Gelfman is notable enough to earn her a Wikipedia page in English? Thus far I've provided multiple references to independent sources that covered Mrs Gelman's artistic work and professional achievements; including - TedX talks, Newspapers' websites, lists of exhibitions she took part in many different countries across the world, and more. I wonder if there's anything else I can submit to vindicate her as a notable person. I would just like to add a few notable, extraordinary things about this artist, to name a few.

There is an Wikipedia page in Hebrew that already exists for Maya Gelfman. She has exhibited in numerous national galleries and museums. Mentioned in multiple newspapers and articles which can be found online. She has taken part in many, many group exhibitions globally. And has left her mark in many places, whilst creating images and works that have become synonymous with her name (such as her works with red yarn which are presented in many public places around the world). Her works have been published in four different books in Colombia, France, the UK and Germany.

I feel that in light of this plethora of activity and achievements, as can be found in the draft, and the fact that the Hebrew Wikipedia team has already seen fit to allow this to go online on the site, that it would be ok for this draft to go online as well. Clearly this is not enough - so I wanted to cordially ask - what else can I add in here. Any suggestions or guidance will be highly appreciated! I am certain that once you are presented with sufficient data, you will be able to approve the draft. Her career and life are split between Israel, the US and Europe.

I believe that we should encourage female creation and presence online and wiki English is a very important place for artists. Here are a few links as an example, out of 40+ references in the draft.

https://www.jpost.com/arts-and-culture/arts/lighting-the-spark-334274 and  https://www.jpost.com/metro/not-so-easy-street-482394 https://www.israel21c.org/florentin-israels-unofficial-street-art-capital/ https://houston.culturemap.com/news/arts/02-19-18-art-houston-places-mind-the-heart-project-comes-to-texas/#slide=0 https://streetartnyc.org/blog/2018/01/06/maya-gelfman-and-roie-avidan-on-their-worldwide-public-art-project-mind-the-heart/ https://www.israel21c.org/florentin-israels-unofficial-street-art-capital/ http://www.itraveltelaviv.com/articles/talking-tel-aviv-street-art-maya-gelfman-pt-1/

Thank you kindly, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michalgitnik (talk • contribs) 19:54, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject update - Performing Arts Aotearoa 12 May 2022
A year after the Performing Arts Aotearoa project started and as we are coming into winter (a busier editing time for many) here is an update.

The Performing Arts Aotearoa Wikiproject now lives on the WikiProject New Zealand page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_New_Zealand/Performing_Arts_Aotearoa

I have added new articles created as part of the Pacific Arts Aotearoa Wikiproject. These articles by new editors include Lusi Faiva, Suli Moa, Edith Amituanai and Amanaki Prescott-Faletau, who was interviewed on Radio New Zealand last Sunday. The reporter let me know the article was valuable for the interview research – great feedback for all of us creating and improving content in Wikipedia.

On the project page is highlighted plenty of articles to create or improve. I invite you to have a look and contribute if you can. There are many long-standing festivals in Aotearoa without articles such as the Hawkes Bay Arts Festival, Tauranga Festival of the Arts, Taranaki International Arts Festival, Nelson Arts Festival and the Christchurch Arts Festival. Creating these Wikipedia pages or Wikidata items allows links to biographies and strengthens the weaving of Wikipedia.

Other suggestions for new articles:
 * Notable women - Jane Yonge, Amber Cureen, Eleanor Bishop (director)
 * Director of the Te Tairāwhiti Arts Festival and musician - Tama Waipara
 * Notable theatre companies - Prayas Theatre, The Conch (theatre company), Barbarian Productions

Reach out to me if you want guidance on any aspects of Wikipedia, or a collegial conversation about writing encyclopaedic entries on performing arts. I can set up a zoom, or direct you to places for help.

Please try to remember to add any relevant articles improved or created to the lists on the project page so the impact can be seen. Take your name off the project page if you don’t want to get these sporadic updates. I will keep an eye on new articles and I have an ongoing campaign to get more images uploaded so we can illustrate the articles too. I have resources on Wikimedia Commons if you are interested. Feel free to contact me on my talk page.

Pakoire (talk) 02:21, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Review Request Draft Page
Please review the Draft page Draft:Lubna Marium.Ayatul nish (talk) 14:42, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently Special:ListUsers/patroller New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing on their talk page.

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June events from Women in Red
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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.
 * Backlog status

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.
 * Backlog drive

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.
 * TIP – New school articles

There is a new template available,, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:
 * Misc

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.


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Women in Red in July 2022
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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:26, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Links to draft articles
Please do not introduce links in actual articles to draft articles, as you did to 2016 Birthday Honours. Since a draft is not yet ready for the main article space, it is not in shape for ordinary readers, and links from articles should not go to a draft. Such links are contrary to the Manual of Style. Thank you. - Arjayay (talk) 21:22, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Potential WIR articles
Kia ora Muriel, I'm not sure if you know about this, but I've put together a list of requested articles at GLAM/Auckland Museum/Articles to work on for New Zealand-related figures, mostly for ideas for future edit-a-thons. If you're looking for any new articles for #1day1woman, most of these should pass WP:N and they all have Wikidata entries. Feel free to make any articles of people on these lists, if any catch your eye! --Prosperosity (talk) 02:35, 26 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Oh I love a good red-list!!! Thanks, I'll definitely take a look! MurielMary (talk) 03:12, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Clare Snide Smith draft page.
She helped create a print making technique called viscosity printing. I believe that is notable enough for a wikipedia article. Helene Wiki User (talk) 16:30, 27 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Helene, you can add more sources to the draft and more detail to show her notability. However as it stands at the moment it doesn't appear to meet the notability standards for a biography on Wikipedia. MurielMary (talk) 11:50, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red August 2022
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Roberta Thornley moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Roberta Thornley, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Shirt58 (talk) 11:35, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * MM - I have not forgotten how well we worked together at Lyra Taylor - pete au aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:49, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Shirt58. I've added a couple more citations and moved it back to article space. Cheers. MurielMary (talk) 12:13, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Roberta Thornley has been accepted
 Roberta Thornley, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the  [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_talk/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Roberta_Thornley help desk] . Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider.

Thanks again, and happy editing! MurielMary (talk) 12:12, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
Hello ,

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators and, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
 * Backlog status

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.


 * Coordination: and  have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out.  will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.


 * Open letter to the WMF: The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.


 * TIP - Reviewing by subject: Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.


 * New reviewers: The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.


 * Reminders
 * Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
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 * If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
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Request on 18:22:48, 12 August 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Taylorisodope
I'm requesting assistance on articles of creation: Isabelle Boemeke. The submission has been declined, but I believe the subject Isabelle Boemeke passes WP:BIO but am having issues removing the clutter properly. If another user can clean up the page, I think it could be resubmitted. Please advise on how to request assistance with page creation or removing the clutter requested by users who have reviewed the page. I tried to do it, but don't think I did it correctly. Thanks!

Taylorisodope (talk) 18:22, 12 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, I don't agree that the subject of this draft article passes WP:BIO. There is insufficient in-depth coverage in notable, reliable sources. MurielMary (talk) 07:41, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

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Hello, thanks for reviewing my draft, I'd like to understand which changes are rzcommended to implement in order to move forward with it. The reason cited in your feedback is about notoriety and the article as submitted has multiple awards pages as well as reviews from specialized media, I have not relied on information produced by the artist themselves. What would be the solution? Do you need more media articles to justify clear facts about the albums published? Is it an issue with the quantity or the nature of the sources ? Thanks in advance for your reply and have an excellent day Bent G. Arrowni (talk) 12:28, 25 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I'll put some comments on the draft to clarify. MurielMary (talk) 00:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

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Draft:Dinah Johnson
Hi Muriel,

I was browsing through some recently declined draft articles about women writers and saw that you declined to create this one. I'm quite surprised, as it appears to easily pass WP: NAUTHOR#3 and is well written, well referenced, and well formatted. I don't do new article reviews, so I'm not familiar with all the criteria reviewers apply. I was wondering if you could elaborate on why this article was rejected? pburka (talk) 13:57, 2 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I'll put some comments on the draft page. MurielMary (talk) 08:20, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Drew Ne'emia page title
Hi, I moved Drew Neemia to Drew Ne'emia as he announced that this is how his last name should actually be pronounced/spelled on final episode of The Masked Singer NZ, which aired on Sunday. I've now added a reference supporting this to the lead. Would you support moving it back? Should I start a Requested move? Ollieinc ( talk ) 08:28, 3 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Kia ora Ollie, oh that's quite tricky, isn't it! All the secondary sources list him as "Neemia" but you say he's said on air that it should be "Ne'emia"? I think the page name could be "Ne'emia" with a note somewhere in the lead about this being the correct name according to him .... I think do that, and then let's see what other editors think. Maybe put a note on the talk page as well, inviting discussion of the best way to handle it? Cheers! MurielMary (talk) 09:36, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

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Hey MurielMary, a heads up that a draft you reviewed (about author Gwenda Bond) is getting discussed on Twitter at the moment. You might see additional activity due to that thread. Thanks for being an AfC reviewer! Suriname0 (talk) 01:40, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for notifying me, that's so interesting to know! I hope the article can be developed enough to be published! MurielMary (talk) 04:52, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Kim_Gordon_(designer)
Hi MurielMary, I noticed you declined the submission for the draft on the California designer Kim Gordon. I was wondering if you checked all of the sources, because I'm quite confident that multiple sources feature in depth, reliable, and independent coverage. For example:

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-himi-kim-gordon-20181007-story.html

https://www.mydomaine.com/kim-gordon-healthy-home-design-ideas-5119866

https://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/hot-property/la-fi-hp-0507-kim-gordon-20160507-story.html

https://www.argonautnews.com/news/designer-extraordinaire/article_a903948b-22e2-5420-82bc-d87b2d015008.html

https://www.snyderdiamond.com/blog/Interior-Diviner-Kim-Gordon

https://csq.com/2020/06/designer-kim-gordons-market-defying-residential-havens/#.Y0BNHnZBxPY

https://www.californiahomedesign.com/house-tours/a-place-in-the-sun/

https://www.elledecor.com/design-decorate/house-interiors/a8690/glass-house/

All of these articles have multiple paragraphs about the subject. The Los Angeles Times is regarded as reliable as per WP:RSP. ELLE is not listed, but the discussion on the notice board suggests editors so far have considered it as reliable. As for C Suite Quarterly, Snyder Diamond, Argonaut News, MyDomaine, and California Home & Design, there has not been enough discussion by Wikipedia editors to form a consensus on their reliability, but all of them have in depth coverage and on first glance some of them seem to have decent editorial standards.

Maybe the issue is that most of these articles had quotes from the subject, so you read them as interviews? I'm sorry to bother you about this, it's just that with all of the coverage in national publications, I'm having trouble seeing how this wouldn't meet WP:SIGCOV. In the notice you left on the draft, there were no details about what the specific issues were, so I'm just trying to better understand your thought process.

Thanks.Chagropango (talk) 16:25, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

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Redirect of Elizaveta_Glinka to Elizabeth Glinka adding plot of Doctor Lisa
You are a top editor of Elizaveta_Glinka (see Talk:Elizaveta_Glinka) I have been editing Doctor Lisa and Elizaveta_Glinka  for the past week. Please watch Doctor Lisa, as top editors will not allow me to add a plot. See: User_talk:DanCherek


 * Number 1:

I suggest the article be moved to Elizabeth Glinka the name used in English speaking countries:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Elizaveta_Glinka#Suggested_move_to_Elizabeth_Glinka

See Talk:Elizaveta_Glinka


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I need a plot summary that meets the draconian rules of Wikipedia. Here is what I have written thus far:


 * The plot is of one day in the life of Elizabeth Glinka who is the head of Fair Care Foundation in Moscow in 2012.  As the day starts, Elizabeth and her husband Gleb Glebovich Glinka are going to celebrate their 30th wedding anniversary. Elizabeth is waiting for her three sons and close friends to arrive.


 * Before the party, the last thing she needs to do is drop by Moscow Paveletsky Railway Station to check on weekly patients at the Fair Care fund and to send humanitarian supplies to people in need.


 * At the clinic, a man calls Doctor Lisa. In a hospital in the Moscow suburbs his five-year-old girl, Eva, who is dying. The doctor on duty has to discharge Eva. Due to medical formalities the child, who suffers from cancer, is left without painkillers. Doctor Lisa agrees to help.


 * This request results in Doctor Lisa breaking the law for this girl.

My Russian is bad so it is difficult for me to write a proper plot summary on Doctor Lisa. Thanks in advance. Metro2fsb (talk) 05:28, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

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Boukari Laouali Chaibou
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Draft:Kunsulu Zakarya
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Vera Shabshai
Dear @MurielMary.

Thank you for your previous comment on the Draft:Vera Shabshai. I took your feedback into consideration and have since revised the language and clarified the draft. I kindly ask you to take a look at the updated draft and let me know if there are any further improvements i can make. Your contribution to improving the quality of Wikipedia articles is highly appreciated.

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declining
Dear Muriel, I saw that you declined Tatjana Ostojic. I am not sure what do you mean when you say leader. However, being The first designer in Serbia who made a collection from which proceedings goes to children with cancer, also designer of inclusive fashion for people with disabilities, founder of The first online archive of Belgrade socialist modernism, but also winner of awards for the best designer, having a lot of press and fashions shows sound pretty ok to me. Maybe the problem is that you dont understand Serbian. I will paste you one translate from the article in which Tatjana is just "mentioned" (Story). And there is a lot of similar articles. "Tatjana Ostojić is one of the most influential Serbian fashion designers of the younger generation, known for her characteristic visual language in which various inspirations such as architecture, comics and science fiction are intertwined. She won several awards at the Belgrade Fashion Week, and she is finishing her postgraduate studies at the prestigious Politecnico di Milano university. During 2019 and 2020, he cooperates with the Italian house Versace, where he works with Marco Colagrosi to create the new Versace Jeans Couture line. She is the founder of the website Belgrade Social Modernism, which examines the meanings of the architectural phenomena of New Belgrade through archives and documentation. He lives and works between Belgrade and Milan." 162.253.182.30 (talk) 12:57, 2 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I just hope it's not the case that you think women from this region are not important, since I've seen her turn down a couple of very important ones. 162.253.182.30 (talk) 13:00, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Can you please clarify why you rejected Ukowna Ojo's page?
The reason given was "There is not enough evidence from the cited sources that the subject meets the notability requirements for a biography on WP." This is confusing because 18 citations were used, including articles specifically about Ojo in major publications such as Variety and Adweek. The citations clearly indicate that Ojo is one of the most decorated female business leaders of African descent currently alive. Combined with her recognition from outlets such as Forbes, Fortune, and Financial Times (also cited clearly on the draft page), her profile seems to compare favorably, at minimum, with other women whose pages you have approved, such as Stacy Shortall or Theresa Gattung. I understand that Shortall and Gattung are from your region, whereas Ojo is not, but can you please explain what other criteria factored into your decision to approve their pages while rejecting Ojo's? Emmagoldhuman (talk) 17:17, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

The Julius Family were slave owners in the Caribbean - you can delete all you like. It’s a fact. 180.150.36.48 (talk) 09:52, 12 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi, the statement was deleted because there was no reference to support it. All statements on Wikipedia must be referenced to a reliable source. MurielMary (talk) 10:59, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Elizabeth Diggs
Can you give me some more feedback on why you declined my Draft:Elizabeth Diggs AfC? Your stated reason was not meeting the inline citation requirements. But the inline standard specifically says that inlines are required for only four categories, the only one relevant here is a statement "likely to be challenged." The list of most of the plays and corresponding awards in my draft are already extensively cited in the body of the article. "For all other types of material, the policies require only that it be possible for a motivated, educated person to find published, reliable sources that support the material, e.g., by searching for sources online or at a library." The list of plays would also meet this test. Unless you feel that someone might challenge whether or not Elizabeth Diggs wrote one of the plays she said she wrote and is distributed on her behalf by a playwright rights agency? In addition, the guidance for reviewing Articles for Creation state: "Articles that will probably survive a listing at Articles for deletion should be accepted." I think its reasonable to say that my draft would not be deleted, as it doesn't seem to me to meet criteria for deletion. The number one error to avoid for AfC review is "Avoid declining an article because it correctly uses general references to support some or all of the material. The content and sourcing policies require inline citations for only four specific types of material, most commonly direct quotations and contentious material (whether negative, positive, or neutral) about living persons." Justinkrivers (talk) 14:45, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

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Hi MurielMary! I just saw that you declined Draft:Athena Vas. Sorry, but I don't understand why when it was already reviewed by Onel5969 last April 19 and went live for almost three weeks until someone moved it back to draft due to COI on May 8. Athena Vas was the grand winner of The Bachelor (Greek season 2), which makes her notable. Please review the draft. Thank you.Bmjc98 (talk) 14:26, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

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Hello, I have multiple citations that meet wikipedia's requirements for Secondary Independent Sources (including books, ISBNs, Poets & writers directory listing, other companies, reliable magazines and books where work by the subject has appears), please advise why these sources continue to fail reviewer's requirement as 'reliable' and 'independent'. Thanks! Here is the draft page: Articles for creation: Sara Cahill Marron (July 15) Filipoet (talk) 13:53, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

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Draft:Awilda Rodríguez Lora
Thank you for evaluating Draft:Awilda Rodríguez Lora and providing feedback. You declined the draft. I have added references from El Nuevo Día, which is the leading newspaper in Puerto Rico; from the peer-reviewed journal Obsidian: Literature and Arts in the African Diaspora, published in the United States, and from a forthcoming scholarly academic book from the University of Michigan Press. I have also added a scholarly source from the Instituto de Cultura Puertorriqueña Magazine, and created a section indicating the scholarly and media attention that Awilda Rodríguez Lora has received during her decades-long career in Puerto Rico and the United States. I have included the ISBNs for the scholarly books featuring this artist. I hope these additional sources show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article.Lawrlafo (talk) 05:54, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

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Draft:Leca Araujo
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I contributed to the draft Draft:Leca Araujo since your last review on 14 May 2023. You left a comment that she won any national and international awards. Yes, she already won an international award called "The Future We, Want, United Nations 75th anniversary" and I already added the awards and cited with the source.

Could you please look at it? Thanks Goldabrun (talk) 20:01, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

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Draft:Chloé Frammery
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Women in Red October 2023
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Women in Red - November 2023
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November Articles for creation backlog drive
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Draft:Teija Niku
Your reason for rejection of this article submission as stated

''The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you''

makes no sense to me. Minimal standard for inline citation is never defined or given in the Wikipedia rules and recommendations Bocin kolega (talk) 20:27, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

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Please elaborate
I would really appreciate it if you explain why this draft Julia Church was declined. Regards TheChineseGroundnut (talk) 10:45, 26 December 2023 (UTC)


 * See the explanation on the page itself. MurielMary (talk) 11:07, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I have seen it. I have added more sources also. May I re-submit? TheChineseGroundnut (talk) 11:40, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You can resubmit at any point for another review. All the best, MM. MurielMary (talk) 01:22, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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Draft: Uman
Hi @MurielMary I wanted message this is the second time you have declined this page. I wanted to add some context to the artist notability. The notability for this artist is the fact that she is also a Somali painter and artist. There is much representation for contemporary art world. For that fact alone I think it’s is important for Wikipedia being a platform to show the understanding of the wider world especially African/black artist which are not as represented on Wikipedia. They are akin to Gagosian and Zwirner which are considered blue chip galleries :  high-value artworks by well-established artists – artists with a solid reputation for creating art that increases in value over time. Also the fact that she has represented by one of the biggest and successful art galleries in the world Hauser and Wirth who represent artist on Wikipedia such as  Avery Singer, Paul McCarthy, Roni Horn, Alexander Calder, Rashid Johnson, and George Condo Charles Gaines, Glen Ligon, Mark Bradford, Sonya Boyce, The fact that there even isn’t a representation in the Wikipedia artist page by nationality is an issue. Would you reconsider declining the page? Nabil vega (talk) 23:40, 2 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi, drafts are considered in comparison to the agreed Wikipedia criteria for inclusion. The subject needs to meet these criteria. You are welcome to edit and resubmit the draft at any point for another review. All the best, MM MurielMary (talk) 01:21, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Question: "Sarah Young" Submission
I see it was declined based on her notability as a prominent figure. However, I have updated the draft to include the following pertinent information: her Jesus Calling Series (which already has its own Wikipedia page) has sold over 45 million units worldwide, as referenced by global publisher HarperCollins. This makes Sarah Young one of the most successful female Christian authors in all of history. I believe this makes her well within the requirements for her own posthumously published Wikipedia entry.

Thank you for your reconsideration, and for working to make Wikipedia an accurate, amazing resource! Boygary (talk) 17:26, 5 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I see the draft has now been accepted. All the best with your future editing, MM. MurielMary (talk) 09:59, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you MurielMary! I’m excited to have my first Wikipedia page published. Thank you for helping me improve the page!
 * JMC Boygary (talk) 18:20, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Draft Articles Reviews
Hi MurielMary, I want you to take a look about my recent articles in draft Draft:Mister Supranational and it is declined by Mr. Maximilian and as I looked to your accepted articles you have a good reviews in terms of accepting new articles. And in my recent articles I provide a lot of verified news media outlet and website to support my article in each statement just like your recent and previous accepted articles reviews and thought you could help mine to get back in the main space thank you.Rc ramz (talk) 09:37, 7 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi, this draft isn't on a topic I'm familiar with. I'll leave it to another reviewer to comment on. All the best, MM. MurielMary (talk) 09:52, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks for the response I hope you'll help me regarding this matter I will wait until this things resolve. Rc ramz (talk) 16:08, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

2024 ACC Women's Premier Cup
Hey MurielMary, I received a notification that Draft:2024 ACC Women's Premier Cup was reviewed by you; but the draft page still shows as review waiting and it hasn't been moved yet. Can you please clarify about this, thank you. Cric editor (talk) 12:35, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red February 2024
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Christchurch Wikipedia Meetup


Kia ora! For the first half of 2024 I'm the Aotearoa Wikipedian-at-Large, based in Christchurch and funded by a grant from Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand. As part of the project I'm running regular meetups in Tūranga where local Wikipedians can meet, chat, help each other out and collaborate on projects. I'll also be organising edit-a-thons, wikiblitzes, and training for new editors. The goal is to grow the editor community in Christchurch and convince local institutions that Wikipedia is worth taking seriously.

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 * Initial meetup: Sunday 18 February, 10:00–12:00, Foundation Cafe, Tūranga

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Women in Red March 2024
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We invite you to stand for the WANZ Committee
Kia ora Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand (WANZ) members.

We invite you to consider standing for the WANZ Committee at our AGM 22 April 2024 to help shape and influence events and decisions.

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Women in Red April 2024
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New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024
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Constance Barnicoat
Kia ora, given your interest in kiwi women I thought I'd highlight the page on New Zealand journalist and mountaineer Constance Barnicoat. A new biography of her has been recently published; I've added some detail on those sources to the talk page. A copy of the book is available at Tūranga. David Palmer aka cloventt (talk) 21:36, 19 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Oh, thank you, that looks very interesting! I see from the article history that I edited that article some years ago - will be good to go back to it again and develop it further. Thanks! MurielMary (talk) 09:35, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Cathleen Piazza
Hi MurielMary—Thanks for your review of this article. To improve it (remove the stub), could I expand the section about her research and contributions to pediatric feeding disorders? I didn't include many details about that since I wasn't sure if it would removed. Thanks for your help. Hockmana (talk) 11:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red May 2024
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New Zealand Women in Architecture WikiProject
A+W NZ are bringing back the New Zealand Women in Architecture WikiProject Walking Tour and Wikipedia Edit-a-thon for 2024 with two concurrent in-person events in Tāmaki Makaurau Auckland on Saturday 18th May 2024. We will build from the good work of 2023 and welcome any contributions, in-person or off-site.

More information: New Zealand Women in Architecture WikiProject.

We welcome new editors or those who want a refresher, so please let any Auckland friends / whānau who might be interested know.

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Women in Red June 2024
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Nomination of May Gilbert for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article May Gilbert is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Women in Red August 2024
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Janneke Parrish
Hi, just seeking clarification around the basis on which you approved Janneke Parrish? This seems to me to be clear case of WP:BLP1E; fails to meet GNG; and further, is a page created by the subject. Cheers Cabrils (talk) 01:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)