User talk:MurielMary/2020 Archive

Ida Affleck Graves
Thanks for reviewing the page, MurielMary, and for the edits. Linus E (talk) 17:29, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Question about Articles for creation: Barbara Zecchi (August 2)
Hello MurieMary, Thank you for reviewing my article. I will add my sources, as you indicate. I accidentally submitted it last night before finishing it, and did not know how to undo that. This article is meant for the Category: University of Massachusetts faculty. I plan to write several other articles for this Category: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:University_of_Massachusetts_Amherst_faculty While working on Barbara Zecchi's article I was not sure how to link it to this category. Any suggestion would be appreciated. Thank you very much! Lunaandmaya (talk) 13:15, 2 August 2020 (UTC)Lunaandmaya

Edits made to Draft:Lisa Von Tang: acceptable?
Hi MurieMary! Thank you very much for your advice on the edits to be made to my article. I've tried to follow your advice. Could you see if I have followed your advice properly? Thank you so much! I'm new to writing for Wiki.

There's this page made in 2013 that I've been trying to model my own page after. But now I guess the Wiki rules have changed over the years, and I don't understand why that older page can be accepted, but not mine. The older page is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priscilla_Shunmugam
IreallyreallylikewritingIreallyreallylikewriting (talk) 12:12, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, Shunmugam won a national award (designer of the year). There's no evidence in von Tang's article of similar national recognition. MurielMary (talk) 12:38, 25 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello! Thanks for your response, MurielMary. I've put in some further evidence to show that Von Tang is an up-and-coming fashion designer. (1) She is garnering recognition gradually in reputable fashion magazines. (2) Most recently her work was featured in VOGUE, (3) she did win second place just behind China's famous Guo Pei during Singapore Fashion Week 2016, and (4) her bespoke design has made it to the Met Gala in 2016, worn by Nicole Shanahan, the Google Founder Sergey Brin's wife. Do please consider these additional information. Thank you!
 * IreallyreallylikewritingIreallyreallylikewriting (talk) 06:22, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * People need to have already met the notability criteria for a biography on WP for an article to be written about them. Von Tang is "up and coming" therefore not at the level of notability for inclusion in the encyclopedia yet. MurielMary (talk) 08:01, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

revisit Draft:Angela Freiberger
Thanks for your review of Draft:Angela Freiberger. Citations have been added as recommended. Could you revisit? Thank you so much and all the best! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simon.letort (talk • contribs) 03:59, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Correction for Article for Creation
Dear MurieMary, Thank you so much for your feedback on my Draft article for Denise Ajayi-Williams. I have done the correction you pointed out. Best Wishes, (Ozonyiawiki (talk) 07:34, 2 June 2020 (UTC))

revisit please
Dear MurielMary, a separate "Awards and Collections" section has been added to Draft:Sharon Butler as you suggested. More citations have been added, too, to print publications. I hope this makes a stronger case for publication. Thanks for your help. Rocco718 (talk) 17:53, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

revisit please
Hello. I am very new to this and appreciate your valuable guidance. Regarding Katherine Haataja, on the Hannikainen Family website she appears in the family tree drawing on the right side, last on the branch, under her second name Elina born 1969. The parents names match the information available in public records. Obviously it is an old drawing, but she is most certainly included. In my research on Finnish Wikipedia I also found more relatives of female composer Ann-Elise Hannikainen whom I would like to include in the English Wikipedia. Can you kindly advise if I can simply make a translation of it when I create it? Thank you again very much. I really value your feedback and enjoy the research. Cr842morrow (talk) 20:11, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have responded on the talk page of the article. MurielMary (talk) 11:17, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

revisit please
Dear MurielMary, thank you for you time and suggestions, and could you possibly have a look once again on the Draft:Yulia Kuzmenko. The entry has been significantly extended to represent Kuzmenko herself as much as possible. It is hard to separate completely Yulia’s biography from her current ordeal (arrest and incarceration) – obviously a life-changing event.

You write “an article written about the trial”. Your suggestion is worthwhile, and judicial side of her case does need an analysis and publicity. But at the moment it is scarcely possible, since 1) authorities are procrastinating the trial, and 2) prosecution is secretive with their materials.

An article in English-language Wikipedia would be a valuable reference for those who appeal for justice for this woman. LTA for Ukraine (talk) 18:39, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

revisit please
Dear MurielMary

Please review Draft:Noha Nabil Have removed the citation you recommended to be removed of Instagram & Twitter. Please approve my article. Thank you so much and all the best!

revisit please
Dear MurielMary — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shm55 (talk • contribs) 12:01, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Please review Draft:Franziska_Emmerling Clarification to your comment has been added to the page.

Thank you in advance and all best!

revisit please
Dear MurielMary!

Please review Draft:OLENA MOSHENETS Your comments to the post have been taken into account.

Thank you, all the best!

revisit please
Please revisit Draft:Hunt & Fish Club

It alread has at least five full length rs articles devoted to it.

That clearly qualifies it for an article under the terms of gng

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:E010:1100:21B5:6160:D766:E4A4 (talk) 10:55, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Aldi Brothers for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Aldi Brothers is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Aldi Brothers until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article Hidar.ayube (talk) 14:20, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Just thank you
Mr.Muriel Recently I asked for your help in an article about deletion and you actually helped me to edit the article and revise it. You are one of the few here who really help and not just review. I just don't know how to thank you for helping me, I am new here and I am trying to adapt into Wikipedia. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hidar.ayube (talk • contribs) 21:57, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!
Hi MurielMary. Thank you for facilitating the publication of the Rosalind Gersten Jacobs page. Your edits and assistance in expediting the review is very much appreciated. I'm working now to upload images to enhance the page. If I use a photograph of her by Man Ray, what do I have to do to insure that the image is accepted? Do I need permission of the Man Ray Estate?Gaw54 (talk) 20:54, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, nice to hear from you! It's good to have Rosalind's page published now! With regards to getting permission to use an image, I'm not really familiar with the ins and outs of how to deal with this situation. I suggest you ask at the Village Pump (like a helpdesk page) on the Wikimedia Commons site (that's where images are uploaded). Here's the page to post your question on: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Village_pump/Copyright

All the best! MurielMary (talk) 06:54, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi MurielMay. I'm following up on my recent article with an entry on a woman whose life intersected with Rosalind Gersten Jacobs's story, Noma Copley. While she is the co-named founder of the Noma and William Copley Foundation, which is well documented, her story (unlike her then husband's story), has slipped through the cracks. So I made it my job to fix that. I would very much appreciate your taking a look at the draft Wiki entry I just submitted and facilitate its acceptance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Noma_Copley. Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide.Gaw54 (talk) 00:58, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

A to-do addition maybe
Hello MurielMary. I see you have a comprehensive to do list so maybe you don't really need me cluttering it up. However, there's an interesting lady, Fanny Fantham, who you might be interested in adding. Fanthams Peak on Mount Taranaki was named after her. She wss the first woman to climb it, and she worked in munitions factory and as a nurse in England in WW1. There's a bit about here > https://www.sooty.nz/ffantham.html Regards Moriori (talk) 21:15, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi thanks so much for the tip, she definitely sounds interesting!! I'll add her to my list! MurielMary (talk) 06:47, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Citation error
Hi Muriel Mary. Me again. I just tried to update the Gersten Jacobs page with the citation of an article that came out today in Women's Wear Daily. An error message appeared and I can't seem to figure out how to fix it. Your assistance would be appreciated. Thanks!Gaw54 (talk) 22:23, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi again, I just looked at the article and the added citation and it looks fine to me! What kind of error message was it? If you get it again, feel free to let me know and I might recognise it. MurielMary (talk) 07:16, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!
Hi Muriel Mary. I really appreciate you approving my article today. Thanks for the friendly welcome to Wikipedia. MsHorton (talk) 19:44, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, you're welcome! Wang is a tricky woman to write about as her career was before the internet age and it looks like there are not many online sources about her. Now that the draft is published though, there might be other editors who can access other information about her. By the way, if you are interested in creating articles about notable women, there is a group of editors called Women in Red that works on creating articles - you can find the page by searching Wikipedia for Women in Red. All the best! MurielMary (talk) 19:49, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for approving the Aimée de Jongh page!
I've fleshed this out a bit, based on your helpful suggestions. Jojuj (talk) 01:24, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It's looking good! I added some categories too. MurielMary (talk) 04:17, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Ayanga
Hi! I improved the article with citations, hopefully now it can pass. he is definitely notable. Teemeah 편지 (letter)  21:53, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!
Hi Muriel Mary. I really appreciate you approving my article about Prof Walker! Many thanks for all that you do! I can see I'm not the only one finding you very helpful and supportive! Valeria.depaiva (talk) 03:37, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Vera Chapman (New Zealand artist) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Vera Chapman (New Zealand artist) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Vera Chapman (New Zealand artist) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Fram (talk) 08:30, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The article is still under construction - it was only published a few minutes ago. MurielMary (talk) 08:38, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Ann E. Killebrew

 * Hi. I am puzzled by you evaluation of Ann E. Killebrew.  I would have thought that the many reviews of her books in well-regarded academic journals would qualify her as notable.NotButtigieg (talk) 12:15, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi IMO the draft doesn't make it clear how and why Killebrew's work is notable. What has she achieved that other people in her field have not, for example? What breakthroughs has she made etc? You are welcome to edit the draft to add more detail and re-submit, or re-submit as is, for another reviewer to look at. MurielMary (talk) 19:49, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Vita Kin
Hello! I saw your response to a recent review of this article. In accordance with your comments, I have reworked an article about Ukrainian designer Vita kin to make it encyclopedic. I added new information to the biography, supported by links in the media. Also, I added information about the awards and worked on the design of the article. I would be happy if you would consider applying for inclusion in the mainspace. Thanks! 192.71.166.25 (talk) 12:00, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * VPN blocked. This is likely Sockpuppet investigations/Çelebicihan trying to socially engineer you into moving their spam into mainspace. MER-C 09:03, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Jasmin Shojai
My opinion is this draft should not have been approved. References 1-5 are interviews, and thus do not contribute to notability. The other two refs do little to establish notability either. Perhaps revert to draft so the creator can work on finding better references? David notMD (talk) 19:19, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Purdah (film)
Hello! Based on your suggestions, I have refined the sources for Purdah by removing the IMDB and Amazon citations, and by including some others. There is currently a primary source citation to the website of the Oscar-qualifying Cinequest Film Festival that verifies that Purdah premiered there. There is also a citation of the article about the film's world premiere on the notable film trade publication, Screen Anarchy, in addition to a citation of the film's write up in PRWeb about the film's Los Angeles premiere at the famous Chinese Theatres in Hollywood. I've also listed some of the film's festival awards and nominations as well. There's also links to several positive reviews from recognized film critics who are some of the select few approved Rotten Tomatoes film critics. I've fleshed out the rest of the article and honed it as well. I hope it can be approved, or if not, I would love any additional feedback. Thanks so much! MovieDude2019 (talk) 17:16, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Tina Antolini
Hi, Thank you for taking a look at my draft article (Draft:Tina Antolini) a few days ago! I've made some tweaks to it, would you mind seeing if it's in a better condition now? Many thanks, Kj cheetham (talk) 18:49, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Ethan_Greenbaum
Hi-thanks for reviewing my draft == Draft:Ethan_Greenbaum ==

My understanding is the draft is rejected for "not having significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject"

I'm new to wikipedia publishing and a little confused as to what would qualify? There are links to articles about the artist in Forbes Magazine, Bomb Magazine, Interview Magazine and a review of a group show that mentions the artist in The New York Times as well as links to significant exhibitions at major venues like Hauser and Wirth and The Aldrich Museum. Having reviewed other artist wikipedia pages, it's unclear to me why this page is being rejected. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Also-do you advise listing print publications for which there are no web links? (i.e. Modern Painters Magazine etc).

Thanks so much

Fortyfifthroad (talk) 02:30, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

162.197.95.88 (talk) 06:50, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Help with new category
Hi there, Muriel - it's some time since we have been in touch but I always appreciate your recognition of my stats on WiR. Inspired by 's Category:Native American women academics, I thought it might be useful to have Category:New Zealand Māori women academics. I have tried to populate it as best I can but I am not at all sure all the names are those of women (here I often relied on Wikidata) or that I have added all the names of women who should be included. I would really appreciate any assistance you have time to offer.--Ipigott (talk) 17:53, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, sorry for the slow reply, I've been out of town on summer holiday! Thanks for the heads-up about this category, I will take a look. I think has written a lot about women academics in NZ and it would be good for him to look over it as well. Stuart, what do you think? MurielMary (talk) 10:12, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Good work User:Ipigott! I've written about every female prof in New Zealand (or all that I can find) and additional written about every Māori and Pacifica prof in the country. Most of these articles have my fingerprints on them so the lack of the category is probably my fault, I should have created it before. There's some complexity here separating ethnic Cook Islanders from Māori people, I don't usually add people to the Māori cats until I've found an attribution to an iwi / hapu. I also write gendered-pronoun free biographies, so quickly sorting articles into gendered cats may be slower than it might be, sorry. It's also worth noting that there are people like Karl Pulotu-Endemann who don't fit well into cats like these. (Thanks for the notification User:MurielMary.) Stuartyeates (talk) 19:59, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Still waiting... (Ludwika Ogorzelec page)
Hello, I would so appreciate it if you could review my revisions of the entry on Ludwika Ogorzelec that I have uploaded on drafts weeks ago. Thanks for moving the process along! I implemented your recommendation, and I think the page is ready to go live. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandarin54 (talk • contribs) 00:48, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Cai Wenjing has been accepted
 Cai Wenjing, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. If your account is more than four days old and you have made at least 10 edits you can create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer. Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! MurielMary (talk) 09:09, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the  [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_talk/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Cai_Wenjing help desk] .
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New article on Christchurch's residential red zone
Kia ora and hello! I am writing to you because you are a Wikipedian from Christchurch, who has edited the Christchurch Wikipedia meetup. I have just finished creating a new article for Christchurch's residential red zone following the 2010 and 2011 earthquakes. However, I am an American who has never visited New Zealand, let alone Christchurch, so I would find it helpful for Wikipedians from Christchurch to look over this article. In particular, I am hoping that someone will be able to contribute an image of the zone after demolition and removal of the houses that were there, especially an aerial image.

Thank you! I am an urban planning student with an interest in natural disaster preparation and recovery, so I saw this article as a hole that I could fill on Wikipedia.

Best,

Riverhugger (talk) 09:33, 26 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Kia ora Riverhugger, that looks like a great article! Thanks for creating it! I'll ping a couple of other Christchurch editors here as they are sure to be interested in it too and may have photos to add: and . Cheers! MurielMary (talk) 09:41, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Mōrena my friend, that last edit of yours did not trigger a ping. It's described here but basically, you need to create the notification link and place the signature in the same edit. Wikipedia is full of hidden surprises, eh?  Schwede 66  18:36, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

February with Women in Red
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Daisy Edgar-Jones
Re: your comments here: This actress is the lead actress in a current drama series and to boot has the lead role in the television adaptation of one of the most successful novels in the world last year. This is such a flying pass of WP:NACTOR it would be a WP:SNOW keep at WP:AFD - in what universe, and on what possible basis, would she be a candidate for speedy deletion or PROD? Suggesting that there "just isn't any evidence of notability" and making PROD/speedy nominations displays a worrying lack of understanding of WP:NACTOR and notability guidelines in general for someone approving or declining AfC drafts. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 09:27, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * We clearly disagree with each other on the quality of this article. However, as I've already stated, neither this page nor the talk page of the PROD project are the appropriate places to discuss the quality of the article and the person's notability. I am still trying to get an appropriate page for the discussion to take place on and meanwhile you are mocking me in quite an inappropriate way. I take exception to the repeated mocking tone that you are using in your messages to me e.g. "you're a comedian" and "in what universe". This tone is not the appropriate tone for one editor to another and I hope you will desist from continuing to use it either with me or with other editors. MurielMary (talk) 09:33, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Perhaps someone so completely unfamiliar with Wikipedia's deletion processes that they don't know how to nominate an article for deletion (and repeatedly attempt to use means designed for uncontroversial cases to nominate a clear and unarguable pass of WP:NACTOR despite being reverted by multiple longstanding editors) should do some large-scale guideline and process reading before attempting to judge notability at Articles for Creation. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 09:53, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I find your attitude rude, condescending, patronising, accusatory (you seem to be convinced that I am incompetent, saying that I "attempt" to judge notability, that I'm "completely unfamiliar with processes" for example) and unbecoming of a longstanding WP editor like yourself. Your comments are also inaccurate, as my actions have not been "reverted by multiple editors" (two doe not equal multiple, particularly when one of them is yourself). Your behaviour is not at all helpful in building a community of editors. I suggest you do some reading on the meaning of "good faith" and Civility as you have not demonstrated any of these values tonight; in fact you have not even acknowledged that your edit summary on the article, and your initial response on the PROD talk page, were utterly rude and uncivil. MurielMary (talk) 10:38, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * At WP:AFC, you're in a unique position to bite newbies if you so choose, and declining and then, when contradicted by another editor, repeatedly trying to delete an article that is an extremely clear pass for WP:NACTOR ensures that their first experience of Wikipedia is a bad one despite having done all the right things. That's really not helpful to building a community of editors. I always try to be helpful to people who are generally trying to do the right thing, but I return jerkish behaviour to sender. Your insistence on rudely ploughing on in this course of action without so much as acknowledging the existence of WP:NACTOR when pointed out to you is where you definitively go from the former category to the latter. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 12:05, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Wow. You really don't seem to understand the concept of Civility at all! Don't you see that calling me a jerk is really really uncivil and rude? In fact this whole conversation is very much a personal attack, with you attacking me as a person over and over again. Have you read No personal attacks recently? Please refresh your memory on why personal attacks aren't permitted here. MurielMary (talk) 08:53, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Your freewheeling evasion of the point, whether concerning your understanding of notability policy or your newbie-biting, is really quite impressive. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 08:59, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, I would have been willing to discuss those things with a reasonable, polite editor who didn't immediately ascribe bad intentions to every edit I made, but with someone like yourself who came at me fighting and calling me names right from the get-go - nope, no way, not having a discussion and opening myself up to even more abuse!! This is something for you to reflect on - to have a discussion you need to start off respectful, not start off with slinging names around. MurielMary (talk) 09:06, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * People who make edits clearly against guidelines and then adamantly refuse to discuss their edits tend to find they meet with strong criticism. This is the way of things. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 12:08, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Anna Janko
OK MurielMary. This is translated from Polish Wikipedia. The text is from verified sources Anna Janko. OK. I work on the project and add sources. Greetings.Fromzamoscwith (talk) 16:36, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The Polish Wikipedia is very different than the English one, and the two have different rules about things. I do not edit the Polish Wikipedia, for I cannot speak Polish, but I imagine that it may have different sourcing criteria than we do. The English Wikipedia is fairly rigid in sourcing guidelines, while in my extremely limited experience with other wikis not all have the same rules in the same places. Good luck! -- a la d insane  (Channel 2)  16:48, 10 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Done. I have added sources in two sections for prizes and publications - citations where the information comes from. I also added to the bibliography, added links, and other additions. Greetings. Fromzamoscwith (talk) 10:20, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you MurielMary. Fromzamoscwith (talk) 21:42, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Request on 00:58:47, 11 February 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Gdoig
Thank you for your review MurielMary.

I have added authoritative citations to the appropriate sections, as requested.

Best wishes,

GDoig

Gdoig (talk) 00:58, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Request on 02:26:52, 12 February 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Gdoig
Hello MM,

Could you please re-review the submission regarding Odette Wilen. It has been 'rejected' by a different reviewer claiming 'Wiki is not a place for Memorial Pages'. This is far more than a 'memorial'. I am unrelated to OW. I was doing historical research on refeeding syndrome when I learned she OW was the only one of 39 women SOE agents from Section F who did not have her wiki bio in English, so I did some more reading and put one together. It is now referenced to many historical citations. Is the other reviewer correct? Many male SOE agents have wiki bios and achieved less. Thank you for your time. Gdoig

Gdoig (talk) 02:26, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you
Thank you for your edits and approval of the bio on Odette Wilens. Regards Gdoig (talk) 20:55, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the help!
Thank you for your feedback on Draft Karlyn Percil. If you could give further tips on how to improved so that it is approved that would be very helpful. Thank you again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by AMPLIFYHER2020 (talk • contribs) 03:03, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Request on 20:32:41, 17 February 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Shansav71
Hi MurielMary - can you please help me understand specifically what is missing and/or incorrect about my submission? Do I need to cite different sources or is there a problem with the tone or style of the text? This is the first article I have written for Wikipedia and I would love some some guidance to improve this article as well as for achieving success in future submissions. Thank you so much.

Shansav71 (talk) 20:32, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Draft review for Noma Copley
Hi MurielMary. I'm hoping that your previous interest in my article on Rosalind Gersten Jacobs will extend to my related entry on Noma Copley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Noma_Copley. While she had a notable career as a fine arts jewelry designer and is the co-named founder of the Noma and William Copley Foundation, which is well documented, her story (unlike her then husband's story), has slipped through the cracks. So I made it my job to fix that. I would very much appreciate your taking a look at my revised Wiki entry, which was recently rejected for what was considered an informal tone. I would appreciate your feedback on the multiple revisions I've made and knowing if these concerns have been sufficiently addressed. Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide.Gaw54 (talk) 14:36, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Daria Usacheva
Could you please take one more look at Draft:Daria Usacheva and Daria Usacheva? You declined the draft at least twice, out of four declines of the draft, and the declines were stripped off the draft (and they say not to strip them off the draft), which appears to be a clear case of gaming the system. An article is now in article space. It doesn't appear that she yet satisfies skating notability. She is much closer to it than she was when you reviewed the draft, but her medals are still all at the junior level, which isn't in the scope of the guideline. However, I think that a before deletion search finds that she is famous for being famous as a young teenage skater, and that is enough for general notability. I don't like general notability, which is too subjective and winds up with arguments at Deletion Review, but it is policy. I don't like the fact that the sports notability guidelines and most of the other special notability guidelines contain language deferring to GNG, saying that a candidate who passes the special notability guideline is usually assumed to pass general notability. That winds up with arguments between the special notability guideline and general notability at DRV. But that is the way that the guidelines are written. However, this seems to be a real case where an article on an athlete should be accepted based on general notability. What do you think? Robert McClenon (talk) 17:37, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback; could you consider reviewing Draft:Felicity Volk again please?
Thank you for your feedback on Draft:Felicity Volk. As you have probably worked out I am new to content creation on Wikipedia and hopefully your advice on the use of inline citations has helped to improve this draft enough to publish. Reading the guidelines, I am confident that Volk warrants a wikipedia page, but my skills at preparing a reasonable page are still evolving. Any further advice would be appreciated if you still think it is lacking. Cheers. Peter  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterloone (talk • contribs) 13:31, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank You and revisit please
Thank You and revisit please Good afternoon dear Muriel Mary. I highly appreciate You review my first article about Prof Natalia Boytsun (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Natalia_Boytsun). Many thanks for all that you do! I rewrite and resubmit the article based on your comments. Thank You for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndriiTereshchuk (talk • contribs) 14:06, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Review page
Dear MurielMary. Can you please review my page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Marie_Rose_Abousefian Thank you.

CSVs
- Chris.sherlock (talk) 10:49, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Emily Tyra
MurielMary (talk)

Thank you for your initial comments about this article. I will review the criteria you have cited and get back to you with additional comments.

Best,

PackardTwin8 (talk) 16:37, 28 March 2020 (UTC)PackardTwin8

MurielMary (talk)

I have resubmitted Draft:Emily Tyra for your review. Please go to comments contained in Draft talk:Emily Tyra.

Thanks for your help!

Best,

PackardTwin8 (talk) 19:03, 2 April 2020 (UTC)PackardStraight8 Hi, it doesn't have to be the same editor who declined the draft that subsequently re-visits it. I suggest you re-submit the draft when you are ready and then any editor can review it for you. MurielMary (talk) 10:36, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Michelle Hannah


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Eddy Atkinson
I’m afraid I don’t agree with the changes you made to Ellen Atkinson. Edwin Atkinson was part and parcel of Ellen’s life and important background to her life. Also, you managed to cause issues for the referencing. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 02:10, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about?!? Daish’s paddock was completely relevant to Ellen’s life background! - Chris.sherlock (talk) 02:17, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * See comment on article talk page and discuss there so other editors can join discussion. MurielMary (talk) 02:20, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey, I apologise for the "hilarious" comment. I was frustrated, but that was no excuse. Please though, I spent a long time on that article and I did a lot of research into Ellen Atkinson's life. Your assertions that land rights weren't important to her is... not correct. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 04:03, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the apology. You've misunderstood my meaning around the relationship between land rights and her biography, I'll clarify on the article talk page. MurielMary (talk) 09:53, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I never meant to be so abrupt with you. I do appreciate your work, I’m just a bit prickly. I always regret it, as is happening now. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 13:08, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Vanessa Baraitser
She is notable for being a judge *in a particular case*. It is therefore not shocking that the article is mostly about that. Your objection is noted and found wanting. --Stalfur (talk) 01:38, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, you are free to re-submit the draft at any time and seek a different editor's opinion. However you should probably read up on the "1 event" notability exclusion criteria i.e. if someone is only notable for one event they may not be notable enough for WP. MurielMary (talk) 02:28, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!
I want to express my appreciation for accepting my AfC into the main Wiki space. Whenever Wikipedia accepts another woman CEO into its collection of informative articles, especially about a woman of color in a sector noticeably absent of women, such as pharmaceuticals (and science more generally) it is a victory for women and girls whose horizons have just broadened one more notch. Thank you for making Wikipedia a more inclusive place. Mathdestruction (talk) 06:41, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Request on 00:14:22, 14 April 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Haxlee20
Hi there! Thank you so much for reviewing and commenting on the wiki page. I wasn't really sure how to address the issue of her naming, because the information came from her herself, and I didn't know if that was against the guidelines of Wiki.

Haxlee20 (talk) 00:14, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Haxlee20 (talk) 00:14, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Akshara Singh
Hi mate, hope you are doing well. I have made significant changes in Akshara Singh. Please have a look at it. And, let me know if article is ready for resubmission or needs more improvements.-- 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 19:06, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, it doesn't have to be the same editor who declined the draft that subsequently re-visits it. I suggest you re-submit the draft when you are ready and then any editor can review it for you. MurielMary (talk) 10:33, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Caroline Shola Arewa
I am working on this draft and DGG mentioned the issues with the draft about WP:PEACOCK. It was quite clear and I made a cleanup. What I've understand till now is that it doesn't pass WP:GNG for now. I'd like your suggestion about this. The subject falls under the category British spiritual writers and I tried to follow the same pattern other pages in the category follow. Few examples are William Bloom, Cher Chevalier and Cassandra Eason. Most of the references they have are either their books or articles written by them.

So I'm a bit confused what could've gone wrong. Can I get your input on this one? Lunar Clock (talk) 07:47, 16 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Sorry to barge in again, did you find my above message? Lunar Clock (talk) 17:16, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, it doesn't have to be the same editor who declined the draft that subsequently re-visits it. I suggest you re-submit the draft when you are ready and then any editor can review it for you. MurielMary (talk) 10:32, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Svitlana Bevza
Hi, MurielMary! Can you please review the article about the Ukrainian designer Svitlana Bevza and move the article to the mainspace Svitlana Bevza? She has many Ukrainian and international professional awards, as well as many English-language sources (for example Vogue) that cover the designer's activities. I will be grateful to you! Thanks! 193.242.166.48 (talk) 22:29, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, it doesn't have to be the same editor who declined the draft that subsequently re-visits it. I suggest you re-submit the draft when you are ready and then any editor can review it for you. MurielMary (talk) 20:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Marguerite Julie Strauss
Mgrodzins (talk) 18:32, 21 April 2020 (UTC) Please review the changes I've made to the Draft:Marguerite_Julie_Strauss. Thank you very much.Mgrodzins (talk) 18:27, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, it doesn't have to be the same editor who declined the draft that subsequently re-visits it. I suggest you re-submit the draft when you are ready and then any editor can review it for you. MurielMary (talk) 20:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

I understand, and will do. Thank you very much.

Category
Hi Muriel, as I was going through fixing my category changes, I noticed this edit. Isn't that what was complaining about? - Chris.sherlock (talk) 21:30, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * a specific link to the post where I was "complaining" would be helpful here.
 * In the case of Fiona Balfour, is a non-diffusing subcategory of  (because gender subcategories are non-diffusing of their gender-neutral parents) so the article belongs in both of those categories. My "complaint" (Australian Wikipedians' notice board, User talk:Chris.sherlock/Archive 2, User talk:Mitch Ames) is regarding inclusion in both subcategory and parent when the subcategory is diffusing the parent on some non-gender criteria, e.g. "writers" (example) or "actresses" (example). Mitch Ames (talk) 02:36, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * My user page is not the appropriate place for a discussion about proposed category changes. Feel free to start a conversation somewhere in the "Categories" WikiProject, ping me, and I'll come and participate there.  MurielMary (talk) 08:19, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Raewyn Dalziel
How bizarre; this made my jaw drop! Within 12 hours of me setting up a Wikidata profile for Raewyn Dalziel you write her bio. Total coincidence (maybe so because you didn’t link to it), or did my work on Wikidata show up and inspired? I’m asking because if it did show up, I would not know how and where, but would be keen to learn.

Are you looking forward to level 3?  Schwede 66  08:24, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * LOL! Happy to solve the mystery for you! Her name showed up here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Missing_articles_by_nationality/New_Zealand Usually when I'm at a loose end for who to write about I browse that page (among others) for inspiration. I checked it this morning and was quite shocked that Dalziel was on it (i.e. didn't already have an article) as she's a very distinguished NZ historian; so decided to rectify that right away and start her bio! She's quite a private person, there's not much online about her (where she was born/raised/educated etc). Re Level 3, yes and no - husband and oldest son will be able to go to work, but that means I'm working at home + supervising the other two with their online high school lessons so I will probably be even busier! You? MurielMary (talk) 08:36, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Ha, so it was a total coincidence. I had seen her name as author of a number of DNZ bios and thought “is she notable?” Check; make Wikidata entry. L3 is good. As a company, we’ve decided to keep working from home through L3. Wife is “vulnerable” and will work from home, too.  Schwede  66  16:21, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Susan Varga and Barbara McGrady
Hi, I just wanted to thank you for the links for Susan Varga and confirm here (as well as on the Bonnie Women's Refuge page) that is going to write about her. She has just published Barbara McGrady. Oronsay (talk) 02:27, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

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Revisit and HELP please
Kiaora MurielMary

Please can I get help with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ingrid_Dahle

Please can you help me get WiR to work on this page?

This comedian has worked with the BBC and has referenced links, has been in a film and has referenced links has numerous articles including newspapers with referenced links and is listed on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_You_Think_You%27re_Funny#2012 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leicester_Mercury_Comedian_of_the_Year#2015 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desiree_Burch

I have spent time on this page as I saw it as a challenge to get it completed. I do love comedy and have seen this artist live, I am not affiliated/paid, I just like Comedy and believe in the cause of Women in Red. There are lots of pages that are published that do not meet the coverage of being notable. This page has all the above listed plus more referenced.

Please can you point this page in the way of getting help from other users?

I am still a beginner Comedyfanau (talk) 12:58, 30 April 2020 (UTC)ComedyFanAU

Please review Draft:Alina_Robert
Dear MurielMary: Please check Alina Robert´s Draft after eliminating unreliable sources. Alson add new references

Draft:Alina_Robert

Thanks. --Isbeta (talk) 12:44, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Isbeta, now that you've edited the draft and resubmitted it, it could be reviewed by any editor. Please be patient while editors work through the submissions, thanks. MurielMary (talk) 20:53, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Dear MurielMary:Can U help me? I just wanna know if I did a good work after your recomendationS! have a great day! --Isbeta (talk) 12:29, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Phyllis E. Zimmerman
Hi MurielMary, Thanks for looking at my article. I added footnotes in the text and revised the footnotes section (using the templates). I'd appreciate your feedback on my changes. Thanks! T. E. Meeks (talk) 19:35, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, now that you've edited the draft and resubmitted it, it could be reviewed by any editor. Please be patient while editors work through the submissions, thanks. MurielMary (talk) 20:54, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mana Up has been accepted
 Mana Up, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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 * Thank you a lot for approving my article! Jedi2be (talk) 11:14, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Linda Burnham -- thank you!
Thanks so much for your work on the Linda Burnham article. I'm excited for the world to know more about this interesting leader of women of color movements in the US. --Shockofsputnik (talk) 14:09, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Guidance on Draft:Wendy Videlock
Hi! You recently reviewed the Draft: Wendy Videlock and noted that you didn't think she meets the guidelines for a notable person. I was wondering if you could provide further guidance/clarification for what you would hope to see to prove notability. Thanks so much for the time and help! Shivpp (talk) 19:18, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

How Sydney Wikimedians are notified
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Guidance on Draft:Carmen Harra
Hello, MurielMary! Thank you for the guidance you gave me in creating the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Carmen_Harra. After six months in which I followed the instructions step by step, thank you for appreciating the result. Regarding your opinion that writing books and appearing in radio and TV shows does not equal notability, I completely agree. Compared to other writers, Carmen Harra has books in the Library of American Congress, a performance desired by any book author. This woman is known in the world due to her multiple careers: she was a singer in communist Romania, then she became a writer in the USA. Her books are published by major publishers and there are international editions of the books. Please consider when assessing the degree of notability that a woman fled the communist regime, arrived in the most important country in the world, and managed to publish 6 books in the Library of Congress. I appreciate Wikipedia because here I find relevant and verified information about people who have performed in various fields of activity. When I created this draft, I wanted to enrich Wikipedia articles. In a virtual world of social media platforms where only followers and likes establish "notability", I am convinced that Wikipedia remains a landmark of real, tangible objectivity. Thank you so much for the time and for the help! EmanuelB2019 (talk) 08:24, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

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Need Help
Hello, Can you please help me understanding that what content i need to add to this page to get published https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tina_Bhatiya

Please help Soumyakreations (talk) 12:23, 31 May 2020 (UTC)Soumyakreations

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Request on 21:17:12, 9 June 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by MFSinger
Hi there! This is a question regarding the draft entry for Esther Forman Singer (November 30).

We are trying to address the issue that all the materials we can find online are hidden behind academic or corporate paywalls. Thanks to a research librarian colleague we have three published articles in American Artist, plus a bio of her in the American Artists "Contributors" section, and a "Who's Who In American Artists 2006". Since links to those sources take you to a login, we tried the route of uploading the materials to the official site. It is ok to just link to the paywalled sources? We are trying to do everything right by Wiki rules and practices, but the lack of publicly visible info on Esther Forman Singer is literally the issue we are trying to address. Thank you in advance for any suggestions!





MFSinger (talk) 21:17, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Marta Soto
I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything at Draft:Marta Soto. The subject had an album that reached #1 on the Spanish national charts, one of her songs appeared on a popular national TV program, and another song was chosen as the official song for the Spanish women's national basketball team at the World Cup. Sources seem ample. What about this subject isn't notable? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:26, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Statue of Pania
In the process of linking your new articles to Wikidata, I have discovered that an article on the Statue of Pania already existed. It's called Pania. Afraid you will need to add any additional content you've discovered and then create a redirect. There are a number of images of the statue on Commons, while the one you have used has yet to be transferred there. Oronsay (talk) 21:51, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Oronsay, thanks so much for your work on linking the articles to WD, much appreciated! For Pania, yes there was previously an article which covered both the woman and the statue and I moved the material on the statue into a new page, Statue of Pania. Sorry I'm lost about your comment on adding content (to which article?) and creating a redirect (do you mean from one page to the other, in both directions?) MurielMary (talk) 09:53, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * False alarm! I just revisited Pania and realised that's about the woman and, of course, yours is about the statue. No merging required! Oronsay (talk) 18:13, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

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Revised Draft for Your Consideration: Diane Johnson Flynn
Thanks for your feedback on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Diane_Johnson_Flynn

I revised the subject and included notable mentions in published books (including Chip Connely's 'Wisdom at Work') and video interviews with Today, as well as mentions in The Wall Street Journal. I also removed all sources that weren't independent of the subject. Would you mind giving this a review? Thank you. JamesC33401 (talk) 01:01, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Jodi Rowley
Kia ora MurielMary! Thank you for moving Jodi Rowley into namespace! I noticed you removed the year of birth. This I had added after direct communication with the subject of the article herself, because, as you say, it is not mentioned in any of the articles about her. I guess this falls under Original research? If so, that's no problem. Thanks anyway! Dr Mark D. Scherz 11:56, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Kia ora Mark, the article can only include information that is available in the public domain i.e. in a reliable, published source. If there is a source which states her year of birth then feel free to add it and then you can add the birthdate, but until then, it's "unverified". Hope that helps clarify! MurielMary (talk) 12:22, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Michelle Penelope King
Hi, MurielMary! I've fixed all the pending issues of identification for Michelle Penelope King (a preferred name for the Wikipedia article because her full name distinguishes her very well from other Wikipedia pages associated with "Michelle King" for other people. Changes made: 1) I removed the wrong link for her "husband" in the Infobox - I virtually checked and verified every citation once again and that was the only wrong one. Obviously, I removed the wrong information from the Infobox 2) It is clear, that she is an author of the books in the "Publication" section, so it makes her easier top identify her - all her articles, books etc related to women and gender equality and also her occupation as Director of inclusion. 3) I couldn't not to establish her origin (not South Africa and not New Zeland) but it is confirmed that she studied and worked as Journalist in New Zeland by the links in the page(you can see her photo in the article - the same person but younger). She used to work as journalist but later in her career she turned to the gender equality activism, writing, publication and the UN work. http://tvnz.co.nz/view/tvone_story_skin/1431554 LinkedIn profile Here are the links which speak about her education in New Zeland and Cranfield University effectively about the same person: https://insight.aut.ac.nz/Breaking-invisible-gender-barriers-through-storytelling (AUT - Auckland University of Technology) https://www.cranfield.ac.uk/som/people/michelle-penelope-king-15199782

4) As I couldn't establish her exact origin, I removed New Zealand category and added categor "people with place of birth mising".

Please, take a look one more time once you find time for it.

--Gunkhalve (talk) 22:03, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Ann Dinham
Thanks for approving this article and for your comment about the name to use throughout. I've had a look at the MoS recommendation and accept that "Dinham" is the most appropriate style for Wikipedia. I intend to revisit the article because I do have further things that I could add, although there is, perhaps, a danger of wandering off into detail that might not be very relevant. Do you have any pointers that you could give me, please?

Thanks again, and best wishes Kahuzi (talk) 09:20, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Denial of translated article
Thank you for reviewing, MurielMary. I must have misunderstood the Wikipedia Translation tool and the pages it suggests. I take it from your denial that the (several) Spanish-language sources are not valid for English Wikipedia? In any case, I won’t try to contribute translation to Wikipedia anymore. Enby (talk) 05:00, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Enby, which article are you referring to? Thanks. MurielMary (talk) 05:03, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello MurielMary! It's this article: Draft:Denisse Peña. Enby (talk) 20:39, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!
Dear MuruelMary, wanted to drop you a quick thank you for accepting my article/bio on Sana Musasama and for your edits! Remolachacruda (talk) 16:15, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! Hope you are enjoying editing here! MurielMary (talk) 11:19, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thanks for your help on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Guerrero-Maci%C3%A1 Alexmenocal (talk) 12:28, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Review of Draft:Aicha Evans
Kia ora, and thank you for your speedy review. Following the advice of folks at the Teahouse and the new article creation forum, among others and, we have distilled down the Evans article to just substantial coverage (2 or more paragraphs) and favored those not behind paywalls. If you have inclination, please have another look. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Aicha_Evans

Thanks! Tarselli (talk) 09:29, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Draft:June Werner
Thanks for your edits and suggestions. Further inpuut is welcome. Bernardwerner (talk) 15:01, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Elizabeth Chevalier (model)
Your earlier PROD was contested. I noticed it while looking through the article history. You may be interested to see Articles for deletion/Elizabeth Chevalier (model) and perhaps make a comment if you choose. Note that I am not canvassing for any outcome. Your opinion may have changed since the PROD was contested. However you opine is fine, as is no opinion. Fiddle  Faddle  22:50, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Request on 10:27:25, 17 July 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Nikkidiscovers
{{SAFESUBST:Void| Hi, MurielMary I'm relatively new at editing Wikipedia but, I'd like to how I can change this page in order to get it up. The references I used were independent and the person is notable in South Africa unless it's because she's not internationally recognized. She was covered in the Culture Trip and Cosmopolitan. I might be asking the wrong person but, please do let me know what I can do. Thank you in advance.Nikkidiscovers (talk) 10:27, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Nikki, the draft doesn't show how she meets the notability criteria for a musician on Wikipedia. There are specific criteria listed on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles The draft needs to show how (and have references to back up) she meets one or more of those criteria. Hope that helps! MurielMary (talk) 10:53, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi, thank you very much for the feedback. I read the criteria and learned a lot. The artist in question does have a song which is a theme song of a Netflix Show called Blood and Water. She has toured through Europe and America. Am I reading the guidelines incorrectly or does this mean she does qualify for a Wikipedia page? Thank you again. Wishing you a lovely day. Kind regardsNikkidiscovers (talk) 10:27, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Nikki, if she has a song which is a theme song for a notable show (is Blood and Water notable?) then that would meet criteria #10. However it looks like that is the only criteria she meets, so I don't think she meets the criteria for a WP article, sorry. Touring internationally is not on the list of criteria for notability. MurielMary (talk) 10:48, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Deprodding of Starshipit
I have removed the tag from Starshipit, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Articles for deletion. Thanks! -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:08, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi MurielMary. Just for reference, I didn't remove the prod tag from the article; it was removed by another editor and I'm only notifying you as a courtesy (since I suspect they will not do so). -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:09, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Kamau Mahakoe
I placed the names of the books all in italics.

Thanks--Maronaut (talk) 10:00, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you and revision request
Hello! Thank you so much for reviewing the draft of Prunella Fraser Draft:Prunella Fraser. Having checked the notability requirements for academics, I'd like to ask that she's reconsidered for publication, as she is an elected fellow of the Society of Antiquaries, which according to this page should suffice for notability? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics) "Academics meeting any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through reliable sources, are notable.". Is the SoA link acceptable? Thank you! Medievalfran (talk) 21:26, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Request on 20:30:26, 29 July 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Giakuan
Giakuan (talk) 20:30, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Regarding notability
Her movies has been released movie pages is also there in wiki request you to kindly check Vamb30 (talk) 01:35, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Regarding article review
Hi sir.. we have updated this article with proper references now and which are pretty good enough to show that she is a noteable celebrity. And even she has acted in the notable movies which has its own approved Wikipedia pages.. Vamb30 (talk) 06:03, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, I don't know which article you're referring to. Also, "sir" is for a man and as you don't know if I'm a man or a woman, it's better not to use a sexist title like "sir". Thanks! MurielMary (talk) 10:11, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * You won't get an answer; this sockpuppet has been blocked.  Schwede 66  18:26, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Michelle King's draft
Hello, MurielMary! I found 2 links that address your concern. They clearly show her relation to the UN and journalist job in New Zealand for TV NZ. Please, check again. https://www.amazon.com/Michelle-P.-King/e/B07ZZZB5LD?ref_=dbs_p_pbk_r00_abau_000000 (Her Fix book and author biography) https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellepking/ (her linkedIn profile that has information about all her job experiences including UN position and her journalist job in New Zealand) And here is the link to her university in Auckland, New Zealand https://www.aut.ac.nz/alumni --Gunkhalve (talk) 18:18, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Revised: Diane Johnson Flynn
Hello, I removed all sources from this that aren't reliable. The entire article is now published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Could you please revisit this? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesC33401 (talk • contribs) 19:54, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Request on 22:38:47, 6 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Lunaandmaya
Hello MurielMary, Thank you very much for all your help with my draft "Barbara Zecchi"! I believe I've added all the information you requested: -New notes provide information about the list of universities Zecchi has been involved with -I created an entire new section on Film Festivals (with 5 additional references). -I moved some footnotes around. Zecchi is no longer director of Spanish and Portuguese (please see footnote 2) I believe the draft is ready for another review. Once again thank you very much!! Lunaandmaya (talk) 15:04, 8 August 2020 (UTC)LunaandmayaLunaandmaya (talk) 15:04, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Lunaandmaya

ready for a re-review of draft "Barbara Zecchi"
Hello MurielMary, Thank you very much for all your help with my draft "Barbara Zecchi"! I believe I've added all the information you requested: -New notes provide information about the list of universities Zecchi has been involved with -I created an entire new section on Film Festivals (with 5 additional references). -I moved some footnotes around. Zecchi is no longer director of Spanish and Portuguese (please see footnote 2)

I believe the draft is ready for another review. Once again thank you very much!! Best, Lunaandmaya (talk) 15:09, 8 August 2020 (UTC)LunaandmayaLunaandmaya (talk) 15:09, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Aysulu Onaran
Hello Muriel,

I wrote a page about Aysulu Onaran and I can´t understand why it was rejected. Most of the information about the person was gave to me from Aysulu Onaran herself. What can I do to have the page published?

Thanks in advance and best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeniusUK (talk • contribs) 08:58, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, you need to read the notability guidelines and show how she meets these criteria. Also, you need to use reliable, independent sources and add in-line citations to show where all the statements in the article come from. You can't use information from Aysulu herself to write this article as it's not independent and not objective. Read the guidelines here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people) MurielMary (talk) 10:05, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Clarification on Ali Cross Submission
Thank you so much for the quick turnaround on the Draft:Ali_Cross submission. I've just contributed on a few articles, so I am still learning the ropes.

I thought this was an article worth writing because she is a USA Today Bestselling author, and is already mentioned within another article: Whitney_Award

With over a dozen published books with accompanying audiobooks, that should rise to the standard of meriting an article.

Can you give me any suggestions on how to proceed from here?

Thanks!

--Alangh (talk) 02:16, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Request on 15:12:19, 12 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Lunaandmaya
Hello Muriel Mary, I hope this message finds you well and safe! First off I would like to thank you for your help editing my very first contribution, and for your useful feedback. Drafting this article has been quite challenging and time consuming, but such a fantastic learning experience! And I thought I was starting with an easy one! I believe I fixed all the problems you indicated in your second review. Some statements had many details and no references. I found an excellent source for verifiability that contains virtually all the information in my draft. I included it as footnote #2. I'm contacting you again because I'm not sure how to proceed. Shall I simply wait for when you have a chance to look at my draft again, or should I contact the AfC Help Desk? I'm eager to move on to a new article on another feminist film scholar. I don't know if it would be wiser to get this done first. Once again thank you very much! All the best, Lunaandmaya

Lunaandmaya (talk) 15:12, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Michelle King (journalist)
Hallo MurielMary, I saw your comment at Wikipedia_talk:Disambiguation. I added the three of them to the surname page at King (surname), but for the journalist I wasn't sure what nationality to put for her as the article doesn't mention it. I see you've done quite a lot of work on the article: could you add a nationality to the lead sentence? I guess she's from New Zealand (first degree, and your own field of interest) but there's no nationality or birthplace mentioned. Another editor added a NZ category, but I don't know on what evidence. Pam D  07:27, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * If I may butt in, King has a detailed bio on her LinkedIn page: "Michelle was born in South Africa and immigrated to New Zealand at the age of 16 where she earned a masters in industrial organisational psychology and a post graduate diploma in journalism."  Schwede 66  08:27, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * So where does that leave us: "South-African-born New Zealand..."? I'll leave it to MurielMary, as a NZ specialist. It's just that the standard Wikipedia categories, listings, etc always allocate people to a nationality. Pam  D  08:49, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for the messages here! I intentionally didn't put a nationality in King's lead paragraph as I couldn't find any mention online. Yes, she was educated in NZ but without any definite information about where she was born I left it out. Schwede, I don't think her LinkedIn biography is usable in a biography? MurielMary (talk) 10:34, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

No, it’s not usable. But it certainly gives the correct info and that may help with subsequent work (eg it can he used for more specific Google searches).  Schwede 66  18:07, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

draft
Hi, I have upgraded this postscript as much as I can. Do you think it is not ready to create it? Can you publish it?--Fichn gdj, (talk) 19:09, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Notes on Gender and age bias

 * My notes on gender and age bias in the Art+Feminism stats FYI. MargaretRDonald (talk) 01:15, 16 August 2020 (UTC) (does contain dodgy links)

Request on 11:19:16, 16 August 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by PhaithS
Hi, thanks for your review but I’ll like to say that the references attached are all notable and reliable sources recognized in Nigeria and all over. The likes of Punch, Vanguard, pulse ng, Lindaikejiblog, Encomium and so on. Cynthia Shalom is a public figure in Nigeria and deserves a profile on wikipedia. Your help is needed at this point if there’s something that wasn't done right. Thanks for your help.PhaithS (talk) 11:19, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

PhaithS (talk) 11:19, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback
Hi MurielMary,

I appreciate the rapid review of my draft article on Sarah McKenzie - painter! I'll make the changes that you suggested, adding the awards to the body of the article and providing citations for those. I do have a question about non-Internet sources such as printed books. Can I/should I also list those in the references, even if the content isn't retrievable online? I am new to Wikipedia, so learning as I go.

Thank you! Painter80302Painter80302 (talk) 12:40, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi there, yes you can use sources which are not online in the article, sure. Are you using Visual Editor to edit, or "edit source"? If you use Visual Editor, and choose "add citation" then "book" you will get a screen with blank fields which you can fill with the relevant information for a book. Hope that helps! MurielMary (talk) 02:28, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

September Women in Red edithons
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:51, 29 August 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:17, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

RE: Kuiljeit Uppaal
Hello! I just want to thank you for everything you did on making sure the article Kuiljeit Uppaal met the guidelines of Wikipedia. I have tried once to publish it and it got deleted real quick, but this time I know it won't all because you helped me. Despite being an experienced editor on the lusophone Wikipedia, I am still struggling a bit to fully understand the rules of the anglophone Wikipedia. Hopefully one day I'll reach your level. Thank you so much! Bad Boy97 (talk) 19:08, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Request on 15:56:27, 6 September 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Toomuchbroadway
Hi! My submission for draft:amber ardolino was rejected saying that the submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a wikipedia article, meanwhile I have seen a couple wikipedia articles of people with less references that exist. I'm sure the references can be checked first to see that the subject does in fact qualify for a wikipedia article as there are a few article for reference on the subject. Thank you!

Toomuchbroadway (talk) 15:56, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Happening to look in here, it matters a little what the references say: Your lead paragraph says: she starred in several musicals in Broadway, but she did not: she had a named role in only one-- in the others, she was a member of the ensemble or an understudy. .Similarly on television. At this stage of her career, she will not get a genuine review significant enough to show herself notable. And dn fact, all there is there in the way of references in mentions. There are many hundred thousand articles in WP accepted in earlier years when the standards were lower that we need to either upgrade or  remove.  The least we can do is not add to them.
 * ven more important, Since this is your only contribution, and since it is written in the format of a press release, it is reasonable to ask  whether you are a connected contributor, in which case you must declare the connection. Please see our rules on  Conflict of Interest  If you are writing this for pay or as a staff member of the organization, see also WP:PAID for the necessary disclosures.      DGG ( talk ) 01:47, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Blackball Museum of Working Class History for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Blackball Museum of Working Class History is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Blackball Museum of Working Class History until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  DGG ( talk ) 03:39, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of History House Museum


A tag has been placed on History House Museum requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company, corporation or organization that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the.  DGG ( talk ) 03:40, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Petronella Breinburg
Hey Muriel Mary. Thanks so much for your feedback. I've updated the referencing format and also swapped in WorldCat references instead of Good Reads. Hope that's ok! LevelUp2020 (talk) 12:27, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Request on 03:03:56, 12 September 2020 for assistance on Monique Skidmore submission by Anthropologist2020
<!Hello, I am requesting assistance about my submitted piece "Monique Skidmore" as this is my first foray into Wikipedia and I have had an article rejected, I think because there seems to be some suspicion that it is 'paid editorial' or in some other way a paid promotion. It is not, and I have included references. I cannot find any way to prove that something is not paid editorial if it isn't! I'd be grateful to know what more I can provide (if more is necessary), thank you> Anthropologist2020 (talk) 03:03, 12 September 2020 (UTC)Anthropologist2020

Anthropologist2020 (talk) 03:03, 12 September 2020 (UTC)


 * What you need to do is make a declaration on the draft page that there is no coi monetary or otherwise, and let me know on my user page. I will then revaluate. If there is no coi you are not required to say how you came to write the article, but it wouldn;t hurt to indicate somethign--but try to avoid saying just who you are---if you are not a coi editor, you have the right to anonymity.  DGG ( talk ) 09:07, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Blackball Museum of Working Class History for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Blackball Museum of Working Class History is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Blackball Museum of Working Class History until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  DGG ( talk ) 05:46, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of History House Museum for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article History House Museum is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/History House Museum until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  DGG ( talk ) 08:52, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

{{Angélique Gérards]]
I am a ltttle surprised you accepted such an obviously promotional article. I;ve queried the editor about COI, and will afd unless I get a satisfactory answer. DGG ( talk ) 09:00, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Request on 00:30:49, 13 September 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Anthropologist2020
Anthropologist2020 (talk) 00:30, 13 September 2020 (UTC) <! Thank you very much for explaining to me what I needed to do! I hope that I have now done that. But please let me know if there's anything else I need to know - it's a bit of a steep learning curve :) > Anthropologist2020 (talk) 00:30, 13 September 2020 (UTC)Anthropologist2020

question about my draft on Alicia Luna
Hello MurielMary: thank you very much for your prompt feedback on my new article on Spanish screenwriter Alicia Luna! I'm ready to follow your instructions! A quick question, before I do anything wrong. As I indicated on Draft talk:Alicia Luna, I translated this article from the Spanish Wikipedia. Would I be allowed to use the Spanish original as a reference (by adding a footnote)? I thought I could not add new inline citations if they are not present in the Spanish original. You say there are only 3 or 4 in the whole article, but I see 10 references. Maybe I don't understand what is the difference between a reference and an inline citation. Once again, thank you! Lunaandmaya (talk) 22:37, 13 September 2020 (UTC)LunaandmayaLunaandmaya (talk) 22:37, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello MurielMary, I just added links to three more videos of television news programs dedicated to Carole Alexis and Ballet des Amériques as well as links to two additional articles about Carole Alexis and Ballet des Amériques, one of them a review of the most recent performances choreographed by Carole Alexis. There are now references (links) to 8 substantial articles dedicated exclusively to Carole Alexis and her work and to 4 videos of news programs dedicated exclusively to Carole Alexis and her work. These 12 independent publications are based on independent journalistic research and/or on interviews with Carole Alexis and/or on attendance of live performances of her work. Almost all publications feature visual and/or audio-visual documentation (photos, video recordings) of the work of Carole Alexis. I would respectfully like to ask you to review these references (links) and let me know whether I can resubmit the article on Carole Alexis for inclusion in Wikipedia on this basis. I also saw the note "This article or section contains close paraphrasing of a non-free copyrighted source, https://www.balletdesameriques.company/carole-alexis. Ideas in this article should be expressed in an original manner." Having reviews my article and the referenced source, however, I am at a loss trying to determine wherein the close paraphrasing lies. After all, the biographical sketch I am submitted is a mere three paragraphs, while the referenced source is quite substantial. Perhaps you could guide me in this matter as well? Your help with this is very much appreciated. Best regards, --Giovannijacopo talk 21:22, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you and request to review additional sources for article on Carole Alexis
Hello MurielMary, I just added links to three more videos of television news programs dedicated to Carole Alexis and Ballet des Amériques as well as links to two additional articles about Carole Alexis and Ballet des Amériques, one of them a review of the most recent performances choreographed by Carole Alexis. There are now references (links) to 8 substantial articles dedicated exclusively to Carole Alexis and her work and to 4 videos of news programs dedicated exclusively to Carole Alexis and her work. These 12 independent publications are based on independent journalistic research and/or on interviews with Carole Alexis and/or on attendance of live performances of her work. Almost all publications feature visual and/or audio-visual documentation (photos, video recordings) of the work of Carole Alexis. I would respectfully like to ask you to review these references (links) and let me know whether I can resubmit the article on Carole Alexis for inclusion in Wikipedia on this basis. I also saw the note "This article or section contains close paraphrasing of a non-free copyrighted source, https://www.balletdesameriques.company/carole-alexis. Ideas in this article should be expressed in an original manner." Having reviews my article and the referenced source, however, I am at a loss trying to determine wherein the close paraphrasing lies. After all, the biographical sketch I am submitted is a mere three paragraphs, while the referenced source is quite substantial. Perhaps you could guide me in this matter as well? Your help with this is very much appreciated. Best regards, --Giovannijacopo talk 21:27, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Re-review Draft:Vyoma Nandi
Hi Muriel, I have made the changes and added references as suggested. It will be great if you can help re review it. Thanks Sherlock05 (talk) 19:03, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Please revisit and review the page as all necessary changes have been done Sherlock05 (talk) 17:15, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Please revisit Sherlock05 (talk) 18:44, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello
Hello there. I am having a trouble to understand why the article “Natali Thanou” was not accepted since there was more than 10 independent references from all type od media, as well on awards, song releases and awards? Thank you Nat3042013 (talk) 07:36, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Draft: Jamie Morgan
Hi MurielMary, thanks for reviewing the draft. It's a pleasure to meet you and great to see Wikipedia editing so strong in New Zealand! As for Jamie, she played in the European qualifier against other European countries. She played softball for a top US college and she's now a coach. If this isn't sufficient for the page. Fair enough. I thank you for taking the time to review it. MaskedSinger (talk) 17:16, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, there isn't a specific notability guideline for softball players in the list of guidelines for athletes here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(sports) However, the usual notability threshold is to have played in an international competition rather than a regional one. You're welcome to resubmit the draft if you'd like someone else to take another look at it though. Happy editing! MurielMary (talk) 18:47, 5 October 2020 (UTC)


 * It's ok. Your judgement is as good as anyone's. Not going to go shopping for opinions till I get one that works. Be well :) MaskedSinger (talk) 19:00, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Please revisit Draft: Vyoma Nandi
The required charges have been done. Please re-review it and help at the earliest. Sherlock05 (talk) 18:43, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Ara Institute of Canterbury Meetups and including them in New Zealand meetup table
Kia ora MurielMary,

I've updated the table to include your meetup. See the Aotearoa Meetup page as an example. Meetup/Aotearoa New Zealand Online

Einebillion (talk) 08:21, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Tino pai! Thanks for that!! MurielMary (talk) 08:30, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Re: Stuti Khare Shukla
Dear MurieMary, Thank you so much for your feedback on my Draft article for Stuti Khare Shukla. I will do the correction you pointed out, and is it possible to move back Draft:Stuti Khare Shukla to User:Nigel Franswah/sandbox, as when i click on my user (Nigel Franswah) sandbox i see a message This page is a redirect. Best Wishes, --Nigel Franswah (talk) 09:07, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Please revisit
Dear MurieMary, Many thanks for having a look at the page about Carrie Severino. My sincere apologies for getting it wrong the first time; it never occurred to me that those of us living in America and watching the news would have any doubts whatsoever about the power and influence of the subject of the page as an actor in contemporary American politics. But of course Wikipedia is global, and I should have known better. I do hope the changes make the subject's importance clear; if not, I am happy to edit this page further, which I plan to do anyway. But in light of current events, it seem valuable to have this page up as quickly as possible so that the public at large can benefit and contribute. With all my thanksPublius In The 21st Century (talk) 21:13, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

November edit-a-thons from Women in Red
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:51, 28 October 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Draft : Vyoma Nandi Please review
Hello MurielMary ,

Thanks for your valuable feedback. Based on your suggestions, additional references related to the person have been added to the Wikipedia article. The person Vyoma Nandi is very notable,successful and well known female Actor in the Gujarati regional Film Industry in India. There are many articles published across various social media and news platforms about the person's professional achievements and assignments. In the references section, I have included the ones which are more relevant to the content of the Wikipedia article and which provide sufficient coverage for the person highlighting the achievements. So kindly help to review the article again and provide your approval — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sherlock05 (talk • contribs) 15:55, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Undeletion of Mary M. Wigg
In March you deleted this draft article. I would like to continue working on it as I have new validated third party newspaper articles of her career. I've been locked out of my wazdanny account. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wazdanny#Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Mary_M._Wigg_(March_7) --Artcadet (talk) 10:09, 5 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi there, I didn't delete the draft - rather, I declined it. This means that after I declined the draft, it still existed for editors to work on. I don't know who deleted it sorry, but it might have been deleted automatically if it hadn't been worked on for 6 months or more. I suggest you ask your question at The Tea House. I'm sure someone there will be knowledgeable about this process and be able to help you out! All the best. MurielMary (talk) 10:21, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artcadet (talk • contribs) 10:56, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

M. Jenea Sanchez
Hello! Thanks for your edits and feedback. Question: is it *only* the "Selected Awards and Distinctions" and "Academic appointments" sections that need footnotes? I appreciate your help.BFDhD (talk) 16:17, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

About Rosemary Jessamyn Howell - possibly not meeting WP:NPROF?
Hi MM - according to her Melbourne Law school profile - she has "served a term as Secretary General" of the Law Council of Australia. It would also appear to me that the article title should be "Rosemary Howell" instead of "Rosemary Jessamyn Howell"? I would appreciate your opinions about this. Pete "I ❤ Sydney's ugliest building" Au aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:58, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Help with newly created articles!
Thank you for your kind words on my talk page. I am in a edit-a-thon. I have created some new articles and I need them on the main space as soon as possible. I was wandering if you could help me review it so I can know what I can improve on. As you know reviews can take months, i am in an edit-a-thon and it ends this Friday. I need the help of a experienced wukipedian and i will appreciate if you can help. Thank you Obiorah Precious Oby (talk) 14:52, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Noha Nabil - [Article Edit]
Dear Muriel Mary,

Please guide me on the recent removal of the changes for adding a vogue business source. I am a newbie and hence cannot understand what I did wrong for the removal and what to do further in order to get it approved. Thank you for your assistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shm55 (talk • contribs) 08:07, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Victoria Sanz-Moreno has been accepted
 Victoria Sanz-Moreno, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

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Submission at Articles for creation: Elie Che (November 24)
Hi, thanks for reviewing this draft, I would just like to clarify, the terms of refusal. Prior to creating this draft, I went through the requirements of notability and came to the following conclusions:

Significant Coverage
Some of the references are directly about the person in question: later". Pink News. Retrieved 22/11/20
 * "Trans Day of Remembrance: 'When one of us is hurt, we all feel it'". BBC News. 2020-11-20
 * Baddi, Spiritual. "To Elie Che: rest in eternal bliss". Galdem Zine.
 * Kerr, Sue (2020-09-04). "23 year old Black Trans Woman Elie Che Found Dead in New York City". Medium. Retrieved 2020-11-22
 * Parsons, Vic. "Trans icon Elie Che moved to New York because UK healthcare is so woeful. She was found dead less than a month

Published, reliable, secondary sources
The following all meet this criteria:
 * BBC
 * Galdem
 * Pink news

Independent from the subject
All listed in the previous point are independent news / journalistic organisations

It would be great to know what does not match up above, so we can try and find other sources if they exist. Many Thanks! Evertent (talk) 20:46, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Toni Severin
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December with Women in Red
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Jiny Lan
The draft article about Jiny Lan was polished, and I'm not surprised that you moved it to article space. However, I've stuck a COI template on the result, explaining the template at Talk:Jiny_Lan. -- Hoary (talk) 01:13, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

New message from ArriehM
Hi! Can you please take a look and review this draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ericka_%E2%80%9CMiss_Everything%E2%80%9D_Camata Thank you and Merry Christmas! ArriehM (talk) 00:21, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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Draft:Grizelle González
Hello! Thanks for reviewing the draft page for Dr. Grizelle González. I am a college professor and this semester my students did a project researching influential academics and writing wiki pages about them. This page was written and submitted by one of my students. I'm chiming in to note that the notability for academics doesn't require someone to be past associate professor and, second, that Dr. Gonzalez works for the US Forest Service and not a university, so her rank isn't analogous to assist/assoc/full professor. I think she could be considered notable under criteria #1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics). Could you reconsider this page for submission to go live? Thanks for your consideration! Csoconn (talk) 20:16, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi there, as I noted in the review comment, I don't think there is sufficient evidence in the draft to show that she has had a significant impact on her field. Suggest more details are added which show her impact on the field and then re-submit for another review. All the best! MurielMary (talk) 01:52, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Jenny Campbell (environmentalist): Thank you!
Hi there! I hope I'm doing this right; I haven't really contributed to Wikipedia before. I just wanted to thank you for accepting my article on the NZ environmentalist Jennifer Ann Campbell! Although hard to convey in a Wikipedia article (especially with limited sources available), she truly is a remarkable woman who keeps fighting for our environment on the front lines. I admire her a lot and I'm glad I could show her my recognition with a (now public) article on Wikipedia. Thanks again and happy holidays! David — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:CB:2F24:6400:9524:E4D2:648E:B07A (talk) 23:36, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi David, thanks for the note! That's a great first article and I hope you continue contributing to Wikipedia. If you're in New Zealand or particularly interested in writing about NZ, we have a few ways to connect with other Wikipedia editors: if you're on facebook, search up the Wikipedia New Zealand group; and on Wikipedia you can see a link to a group of new editors who get together on Zoom to share ideas and ask questions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Aotearoa_New_Zealand_Editor_Support Keep in touch here if you like, happy to help with any questions. And Merry Christmas! MurielMary (talk) 23:46, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Request on 11:39:55, 26 December 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Flixoye
Hi MuriMary, this is one of the author page. We have added most of the references. Can you please help us how can improve this. awaiting for your response.

Flixoye (talk) 11:39, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donna Bahorich
You reasonably declined it, but I wasn't sure whether this should be an exception. So, just like I did for a similar situation at NPP my first few months here, I accepted it and sent it to afd for a community decision.  DGG ( talk ) 06:29, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations!

 * Why thank you very much! I hadn't even noticed that! MurielMary (talk) 20:04, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Request on 21:57:59, 28 December 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Kentuckian in NY
Hi, MurielMary. I'm a little confused as to why this author isn't considered "worthy" of a Wikipedia page. Your reason provided — that there need to be more "published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject" — isn't logical. There are already 13 references, which is more than double the amount given for her male husband, Andrew Shaffer, who has long had a page. Are the requirements higher for women than they are for men? How many sources are enough?

Or is it the quality of the sources linked? Are outlets like NPR, Los Angeles Times, and Marie Claire — all of which are referenced in the entry — not considered "reliable" by Wikipedia?

Thank you for helping me better understand what needs to be done here. Kentuckian in NY (talk)

Kentuckian in NY (talk) 21:57, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Quick note to follow up: Since posting I saw in your bio that you are likely not in the United States. National Public Radio (NPR) is a HIGHLY respected national news outlet here. Los Angeles Times is likewise a respected, national outlet. And Marie Claire is an international women's magazine owned by news conglomorate Hearst. Happy to clarify the notoriety or integrity of any other sources mentioned. Kentuckian in NY (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 22:01, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, a couple of points to make here. 1, note the instruction on the submission review template which states: Please do not remove reviewer comments or this notice until the submission is accepted. You deleted my review decision and reason, so I have re-instated it. 2, sources for a biography need to be in-depth sources which focus on the person and their achievements. Some of the sources provided only mention Reisz in passing e.g. the one from The Loop is an article on the genre and has short paragraphs about six different books, of which Reisz's is one. So that doesn't qualify as an in-depth source focusing on her. It's not really a question of "how many sources are enough", it's more a matter of "how specific and how in-depth are the sources". Hope this helps. MurielMary (talk) 03:01, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Muriel. Not sure if I was supposed to, but I did not receive any notice you had responded. Just an FYI I manually visited your page after I saw and had responded to your other edits, etc. I appreciate your response, but it feels HIGHLY subjective. I don't know if you're a writer (I am, which is why I'm familiar with RITA, LAMBDA, and other literary awards). To have an article that's only on your book and five others is pretty darn in-depth. Authors long for that type of coverage. Also, that's only one example. Out of what is now 15 sources provided on the page. Again, I ask: There are hundreds of entries about male authors on Wikipedia that provide less than half the sources provided at Tiffany Reisz, including the entry on her husband! Is the bar higher for entries about women? Or is it higher for members of the LGBT community, which in my searching for more sources to please you, I discovered last night Reisz is? One of the new sources I added last night (Thrillist) is 100% focused on Reisz. Respectfully, what else are you arbitrarily expecting here? Kentuckian in NY (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:45, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm not sure why you didn't receive a response that I had replied. Maybe you have to put my talk page on your watchlist, I don't know. I have responded to your query about sources already (above) and also put this response on the draft page too. I see that you decided to revert the edits I made with the reviewer decision and comments, although I clarified for you both here and on the draft page itself that the Wikipedia policy for articles for creation is to leave all reviewer decisions and comments on the draft until it is accepted. My advice to you now is to edit the article as you wish, leaving my decision and comments on it, then re-submit for another review. Further advice on the nature of appropriate sources can be sought at The Teahouse. All the best, MurielMary (talk) 21:46, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Came here after the AFC Talk page note., FYI, notifications will only go to someone you reply to if you ping them or link their user page directly using ping/re or to or u, etc. or by using a wikilink like User:MurielMary.  Just wanted to point that out for future reference. -2pou (talk) 17:55, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's useful! MurielMary (talk) 18:53, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

A New Year With Women in Red!
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Janire Nájera
Janire Nájera is not my entry. I saw your note that you've scheduled it for deletion on my talk page, but you might have better luck directing that toward the user who created it or users who have been working on it, etc. It's not my page, though, so I don't want to take responsibility for someone else's hard work, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kentuckian in NY (talk • contribs) 23:09, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It's usual practice/common courtesy to inform editors who've recently edited an article that it's been proposed for deletion. See the advice: " You should notify the article's creator or other significant contributors by adding the tag or other appropriate text to contributor talk pages." at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion MurielMary (talk) 23:35, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

leave me alone
For the love of Pete, lady, stop following all my posts around and leave me alone. I've tried to be polite and professional here, I've reminded you of the ethics code, I've apologized whenever I could and told you time and time again I'm new and doing my best. LEAVE ME ALONE or I will report you for harassment. Kentuckian in NY (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:21, 30 December 2020 (UTC)