User talk:MurielMary/2021 Archive

ITN recognition for Adele Rose & query re DYK
Thanks for expanding this -- would you be interested in subbing it jointly to DYK? I believe it would qualify. Espresso Addict (talk) 02:34, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi ! Yes sure, although I don't have much experience of DYK and how that works. What do you think would be a suitable hook - maybe that she wrote more scripts than any other C Street writer? MurielMary (talk) 02:49, 2 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I'd try to roll in first woman as well, if possible, though I know WiR don't tend to like "first woman" hooks very much. I may be the only Brit who has never watched Coronation Street but even I was surprised that something so obviously aimed at women viewers had a male-only writing team for its early years. Do you want to nominate, or shall I? If you have fewer than (I think) 5 DYK credits you get a free pass from reviewing another submission, but I don't mind doing that if you'd prefer. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 02:57, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think I've ever nominated anything for DYK, though I might have several years ago! Shall I have a try? e.g. "DYK that Adele Rose, the first woman scriptwriter for the British soap opera Coronation Street, went on write 457 scripts over 37 years?" MurielMary (talk) 03:00, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks great. I linked Coronation Street in the DYK nom. I don't use a watchlist, so if there are comments and you need me to help out, drop me a note (I have bad luck with pings, for some reason -- possibly the space and the barbarous tendency to spell espresso with an 'x'). Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 03:40, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , the nomination has been approved but the reviewer is asking for a QPQ. I think this is where I've become unstuck in the past with the DYK process. I'll have a go though .... MurielMary (talk) 10:03, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, looking at your talk archives it looks as if you got credited with that one about all those new MPs late last year? That alone would have wiped out your grace period. If you want me to do the QPQ I can easily do it this evening, but not until then, will be going offline soon. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 10:10, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * That would be appreciated, thanks! MurielMary (talk) 10:44, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Yangon Thu Michelle
Yangon Thu Michelle is an advocate for women empowerment who stands on her own feet. She produces her own videos, co-founded Myanmar Women’s Self Defense Center, and is a country lead for Myanmar in the Bangkok-based Wedu Global social enterprise. Her videos and interviews aim to support women in Myanmar and she does so with no expectations of benefits or rewards. This is why she is someone who should have a page on Wikipedia.

She does not focus on fame while endeavouring for women’s rights and human rights and her efforts have been documented in interviews and articles by various media outlets. In addition, we have added a citation where State-owned media has written about her work. Her wiki page was constructed based on these facts. Thus, we kindly request an AFC review to be conducted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burmese King (talk • contribs) 07:47, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigations/Nyiminsan
It seems you're already aware of it, but here is the link to the SPI for your convenience. Also I don't know why this undid itself, so sorry for sending you 3 pings. Curbon7 (talk) 09:08, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

A goat for you!
Thanks for reviewing and accepting my recent articles! It means a lot.

Esamiarum (talk) 11:54, 2 January 2021 (UTC) 
 * many thanks, what an adorable goat! Hope you enjoy editing here and thank you for your contributions - several new articles recently, great to see! MurielMary (talk) 10:05, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

the submission declined on the draft of Barbara Pravi on 3 January 2021
Dear MurielMary;

Thank you for your fast review of the page. '''

on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music), it is written: “that Musicians (...) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria.” Barbara Pravi responds to several of them (arguments in bold and italics):

1) Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries. Many of the sources used in the article come from famous french reliable independant national media, such as France.tv, Le Figaro, France Bleu, 20 minutes, Le Parisien, RTL, BFMTV, and even international one junioreurovision.tv

2) Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country. Though TikTok is not yet listed in the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_recording_certification, the artist has got the first golden TikTok of History for the song Bim Bam Toi.

3) Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels : Universal Music France (through its subsidiary Capitol Records) has published two CD’s of the artist.

4) Has won first, second or third place in a major music competition. The song J’imagine co-written by the artist has won the Junior Eurovision in 2020 (most famous European contest for groups and singers).

5) Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network. The artist being one of the twelve artists in competition to represent France for the 2021 Eurovision, many programs on TV, radios and newspapers at national and international level have begun to be broadcasted. Knowing that, could you update your review and accept the publication?

Sijoemonins (talk) 20:02, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi . I don't agree with your assessment of the notability of Pravi's achievements in relation to the WP criteria, thus my "decline" decision on the draft. You are welcome to re-submit the draft for another opinion from another reviewer. MurielMary (talk) 02:59, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Māori Women Weavers Editathon
Just letting you know I've created a Dashboard for the event if you wish to register. It is purely optional as I've created it to attempt to have some metrics in order to report back to the Aotearoa New Zealand group and also to raise the profile of New Zealand editors and our events to hopefully help justify getting funding for others from the Wikimedia foundation. See this link if you want to join the dashboard. - Ambrosia10 (talk) 00:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Florence Earengey comment
Thanks so much for the feedback! I am a newbie to this so your help is greatly appreciated! Msproject2021 (talk) 23:35, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

question about rejected submission of Sarah McKenzie (artist)
Hi MurielMary- I created this page a few months ago, and I appreciate that you spent the time reviewing it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sarah_McKenzie_(artist) You rejected my second draft. Before I make significant further edits, I would appreciate it if you could clarify whether the primary issue was that the artist's awards and exhibition history did not qualify as "notable," in your opinion, or whether the problem was primarily that the cited sources were not adequately independent of the organizations that granted the awards. The feedback you provided was a standard response and very broad, so I'm trying to determine whether this entry still has potential. Thank you! Painter80302 Painter80302 (talk) 15:37, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, IMO the awards and exhibition history in the draft don't meet the requirements in the notability criteria here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Creative_professionals For example, there is no evidence that her work is held in the permanent collection of a notable institution.MurielMary (talk) 10:43, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. That clarification is extremely helpful! Painter80302 (talk) 13:24, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Adele Rose
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Margaret Weston
Thanks for your work on this! I think you are right, it might be the best we are going to get. Pity, as she sounds to have been fascinating. Espresso Addict (talk) 10:09, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Grace Saif
Hi! Thank you for your feedback with my draft on Grace Saif. I have done my best now to remove all the wiki/ fansite references and replaced them. I have also added more content and reworded so it focuses either on 'Saif' or pronouns.

If you could have a look at it again, if you have time, I would appreciate that greatly. Jamzze (talk) 14:32, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Alba Marina Cotes
Hi there! How goes it? I noticed you left a comment on the article that More reliable sources are needed - for example the list of awards is referenced to her own site, I think, or her own CV? You do know that domain at [scienti.colciencias.gov.co:8081/cvlac/visualizador/generarCurriculoCv.do?cod_rh=0000215350] is a university, which makes that academic cv? As an academic CV, it has been checked and if she lied, it would have been ethics violation and she would be out the door. So it is effectively set in stone. I know I'm harping on like an idiot here, but you did see the two newspaper articles as references, that combined with the CV would be enough.  scope_creep Talk  16:41, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft inquiry
, Regarding this draft. About notability. The article subject is published on the Swedish language Wikipedia. However, if relevance to the largest newspapers of smaller languages doesn't qualify for English WP, then what does qualify in terms of smaller language journalists for English WP? Hope you understand the question. What would make it relevant to have a second look on said draft? Have you really reviewed this draft properly, taking into account the non-English language context? Greetings.

Draft:Reyhaneh Parsa
can you rereview it was already deleted 3 times and kept in farsi https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D9%86%D8%B8%D8%B1%D8%AE%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%87%DB%8C_%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%DB%8C_%D8%AD%D8%B0%D9%81/%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%AD%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%87_%D9%BE%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%B3%D8%A7_(%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86_%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B2%D8%AF%DB%8C) Baratiiman (talk) 10:30, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * As per my comment on the draft, more evidence is needed of how she is notable. The draft only states one incident of something she did on Instagram, and a list of movies (some of which aren't referenced). MurielMary (talk) 10:36, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Yu-Chen Wang Submission declined
Dear MurielMary, unfortunately I still don't understand why there seems not to be significant coverage for the Yu-Chen Wang to be suitable for Wikipedia.I was hoping, all the reviews and articles about Yu-Chen Wang, as well as her exhibition in prestigious museum and art spaces would qualify her for a WP article. Looking at your links, I thought it would be ok. Could you help me with more information? I really would like to make this work. Thank you --Sabine Hagmann (talk) 13:04, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Sabine Hagmann please read the guidance here for determining notability of an artist on Wikipedia. I don't see evidence that Wang has met these criteria. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Creative_professionals MurielMary (talk) 11:09, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Jila Hoseini
Hi @MurielMary, after searching for new different references, finally I added too strong references in English to the draft. Please read the new sources and let me know if it is ready to be sent for reviewing. Thanks a lot Khabat4545 (talk) 21:17, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Khabat4545 please read the guidance here for determining notability of a writer on Wikipedia. I don't see evidence that Hoseini has met these criteria. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Creative_professionals MurielMary (talk) 11:10, 20 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your attention, If you read the sources like this and this, this poet will be included in paragraphs one and two of this Wikipedia rule, because she is known among the writers of Kurdistan and her works have been mentioned, and the important point is that she is the first woman in Kurdistan to enter the field of modern Kurdish poetry. Instead of classical poetry. Thanks 178.252.166.70 (talk) 14:42, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, I don't agree that those sources meet the criteria of the notability guidelines. Hoseini is mentioned in passing (mentioned by name only - this is not in-depth coverage of her) and there is no evidence of being widely cited by peers. You are welcome to edit and re-submit the draft if you wish but my opinion stands, that there is insufficient evidence of notability. MurielMary (talk) 10:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

About Te Kāhui Tātari Ture Criminal Cases Review Commission
Hi MM. Possibly something for you to review and improve? (Looked it up and apparently I'm just Pita in Te Reo) --Shirt58 (talk) 10:41, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

File:Emily Carr (1939) Odds and Ends.jpg scheduled for POTD
Hi MurielMary,

This is to let you know that the featured picture File:Emily Carr (1939) Odds and Ends.jpg, which you uploaded or nominated, has been selected as the English Wikipedia's picture of the day (POTD) for March 20, 2021. A preview of the POTD is displayed below and can be edited at Template:POTD/2021-03-20. If you have any concerns, please place a message at Wikipedia talk:Picture of the day. Thank you! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:46, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your article recommendations
Good Afternoon, MurielMary. Back in Oct 2019, you reviewed my article on Harvey S. Whistler. Although the article was rejected, thank you for your time and critique. Your suggestions led to the submission of completely new, expanded, and (I believe) more appropriate article for wikipedia. I hope you get a chance to read the most recent product. All the best, J — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmdakon (talk • contribs) 21:21, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

April editathons from Women in Red
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Helen Allan (nee Miller)
Hi, I see you created the above article, there is discussion on the talk page about confusion over the name. You used a reference for a book source, which I can find some details of on google books, but not enough of an excerpt to confirm what is in the article. Just wondering if you'd like to comment? Spike &#39;em (talk) 12:45, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for alerting me to that discussion! I will take a look and contribute. MurielMary (talk) 03:10, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

 * Hi MurielMary! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission.  I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.
 * The Wikipedia Adventure Start Page
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Speedy deletion nomination of Ulla Jokisalo
Ulla Jokisalo, which you accepted as an AfC reviewer has been nominated for speedy deletion as unambiguous copyright infringement. Noah 💬 01:13, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Request article review
Hello, Mr.Muriel Could you take a little time to review my draft: Mohamed Gaber Taha please , Thank you ,

Hi MurielMary !

Thank you for the 411 on Katharine Mulherin Contemporary Arts, I am new to Wikipedia ! What should I do to refine the page in order to publish ? Let me know :)

Thank you ! - t. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TayaCornett (talk • contribs) 03:06, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

May 2021 at Women in Red
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Dab pages
Nothing wrong with red links on dab pages, but one blue link per entry is a requirement. Just so you know.  Schwede 66  08:49, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

"Brooke Roberts (Q102049390)" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Brooke Roberts (Q102049390). The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 5 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:23, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Performing Arts Aotearoa - Wiki Project – funding success
Great news. The Wikimedia Foundation gave me the grant for the Performing Arts Aotearoa Wiki-Project. It starts on 17 May 2021 and runs for four months. Thanks for being a volunteer or endorsing it.

Go to the project page for guidance on starting to contribute as an editor. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pakoire/Performing_Arts_Aotearoa_-_Wiki_Project

I will update this project page regularly plus send out weekly updates. The focus of this grant is on quality content on Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata. I encourage you to go in-depth and reach out for hints about where to get resources. There is heaps available on-line. Reach out with problems eg. Categories etc

There will be three formal edit-a-thons in Wellington, Auckland and Dunedin. Dates to be confirmed.

You can email me at any time maule.lisa@gmail.com or message me on my talk page.

My focus once the project starts will be on getting resources available for editors from organisations, and educating people in organisations on what Wiki platforms are and how and why they can be engaged. Pakoire (talk) 07:43, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Please let me know your area of interest so I can focus material for you. You can add to the project page or email me maule.lisa@gmail.com. There is also short on-line meeting tomorrow (Tuesday 12.30pm) as a preamble to the project. This will bring together participants, discuss exchange with our Canadian colleagues working in a the same area, and for you to share areas of interest and any questions. For attendance tomorrow email me and I will send a link on Jitsi Pakoire (talk) 20:36, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

A request
Hi Muriel, I see you have written a couple of Sri Lankan women biographies. That's excellent work! Can I request a simillar article, if it is not too much? Dr Lorna Dewaraja is a Sri Lankan historian, a prominent authourity on the Kandyan period of the country. Hope it will be fun write. Regards-- Chanaka L ( talk ) 11:39, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that suggestion! I have added her name to the list I am working on here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/The_World_Contest/Missing_articles/Asia#_Sri_Lanka MurielMary (talk) 11:45, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
 * That will be great, Ask me if any help needed there. Cheers-- Chanaka L ( talk ) 11:53, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

draft Pamela Golbin
bonjour, a lot of sources : 24, Knight of the Order of Arts and Letters, articles from The wall street journal, The mad (musée des arts décoratifs de paris, Le Louvre) a lot of books... It is not sufficient ??? --Jeanchristopheflorence (talk) 08:08, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject update - Performing Arts Aotearoa
The project is now two weeks in and the profile of the project is building in the performing arts communities. Editors have created seven new articles in Wikipedia and 291 new and improved entries in Wikidata. These have been tagged in Wikidata to the project using the property p5008 ‘on focus list of Wikimedia project’ – ‘Performing Arts Aotearoa New Zealand.’

Thank you if you have made a contribution already, there will also be lots of other ways to contribute over the coming three and a half months.

The current focus is the Wellington based festival Kia Mau. This weekend Saturday 5th June there is a takeover of the Wellington Meetup with an edit-a-thon focus to Wikify the festival. Kia Mau is an established festival based in Wellington celebrating and promoting “contemporary Māori, Pasifika and international Indigenous live performance experience.” For more information look at the Wellington Meetup page or the Kia Mau Wikiproject Worksheet. Over the next few days resources will be shared, including stubs and links to information. Focusing on this festival will start to address the bias in Wikipedia that means there is low content on indigenous people, plus there are many women involved. Which means you can also add them to the Women in Red projects #1day1woman, some would fit onto the year-long campaign: Women's rights, and some into the June focus Wiki Loves Pride.

Increasing content on women and indigenous people is part of the Performing Arts Aotearoa Wikiproject.

Participating in the Kia Mau editing can be in person or remotely. You can start this week, join for an hour or more on the day, and follow up afterwards also. Any improvements to Wikipedia, Wikidata and Wikimedia Commons content will make a difference.

Please let me know if you have any tips or questions to help me help you. If you aren't in a position to contribute right now that's ok too - take care.

Many thanks, Lisa Maule / Pakoire (talk) 22:04, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Aiki Flinthart
Thanks for your review and advice regarding Aiki Flinthart's page. I'll continue to look for articles about her and her work to build references. Thanks again.

WikiProject update - Performing Arts Aotearoa 20 June
Many thanks to all who have contributed so far. There are 28 new Wikipedia articles (thanks for your articles) and over 500 new Wikidata entries. The Kia Mau Festival mini edit-a-thon happened with useful learning for me about what seems simple and what is possible. I am proud of the persistence of editors – a much improved article for Audrey Brown-Pereira for example, a new article for The Māori Sidesteps and lots of links from performance UPU to various poets. And many Wikidata entries.

You can now link to the project page through my website (http://www.lisamaule.info). Easier to remember and google-able (Wikiproject Lisa) if you want to direct other people where to look.

Things to do:

•	DEEPEN CONTENT: Have a look at the new articles on the project page: User:Pakoire/Performing Arts Aotearoa - Wiki Project. Many can be expanded including with this resource: Theatre Aotearoa database https://tadb.otago.ac.nz/theatre

•	LINKABLE ARTICLES: Create articles for a venue, a company or a festival. This will help facilitate biographies being linked to other articles. Suggestions on project page.

•	KEEP GOING with your own area. Let me know what you are up to. See my new research google doc (linked on the project page) – feel free to comment if you need something (ask me for permission to edit)

•	IMPROVE ANY ARTICLE on any performing arts topic, theatre, dance, venues – feel free to use my suggestions as a starting point and then going where it takes you. Reach out for suggestions in your area of interest, or ideas for research. I am a subject expert which helps with searching, and now have a pool of academics and others who I can ask too.

Examples of articles to get formatting ideas:

•	New Zealand Opera

•	Dunedin Writers & Readers Festival

•	Bangarra Dance Theatre

•	Hugo Weaving

•	Tusiata Avia

•	Kia Mau Festival

•	Circa Theatre

•	New Zealand Festival of the Arts

•	Raewyn Hill

Very simple stub articles:

•	Eagles Theatre

•	Camden Fringe

DIARY the three in person edit-a-thons now scheduled 10am - 4pm:

Dunedin Saturday 10 July (location tbc) - topic Allen Hall and contemporary companies in Dunedin

Auckland Saturday 14 August (location tbc) - topic Auckland Women in performing arts

Wellington Saturday 21 August (Nola Millar Library, Te Whaea) - topic Toi Whakaari and New Zealand School of Dance alumni

Many thanks – do what you can (might be nothing, might just be one citation) and take care, Lisa

Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive
 Hello :

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a  month long Backlog Drive!

The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running until 31 July 2021.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.

There is currently a backlog of over articles, so start reviewing articles. We're looking forward to your help!

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject Articles for Creation at 21:54, 7 July 2021 (UTC). If you do not wish to recieve future notification, please remove your name from the mailing list.

Request on 14:39:30, 11 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Timathan
I want to make sure I understand your reservations about publication of the Ivy Nicholson posting. The rejection messages mix "not notable" concerns with "reliable sources" concerns. When I look at the draft I see that three of the references are highlighted in red. Is that telling me that those are the items of concern, and if I can remove them, the article will be ready for publication?

Thank you. Timathan (talk) 14:39, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Timathan (talk) 14:39, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

August Editathons from Women in Red
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A kitten for you!
thanks for all that you do!

I am having trouble using the right references for my article and I found your edits and notes very helpful to get started, thank you :)

MCbotski (talk) 21:38, 24 July 2021 (UTC) 

Request on 09:41:03, 28 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Andiy323
Could you please pinpoint the sources that do not seem independent to you? Is it because it's a European person I am referring to? The articles presented are impartial and cover adequately the artist. I believe that the denial of my article was unfairly justified.

Andiy323 (talk) 09:41, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello MurielMary, I would like to thank you for all your corrections - and to say that I am very sorry for 'pushing' the wrong button twice at least for submission - forgot to remove the sentence in the beginning of the draft ...! really sorry for it (everything is new to me on wikipedia). The problem is that I am not sure of seeing your corrections. Also do not know how to find citations for awards (it takes me too much time to understand the format and information), therefore, I will remove them as well as articles written by media - as is not clear for me how I can write them in wikipedia format.

I am working since 1 week now on the wikipedia site and I have hard time to understand how I can write better the draft (mainly citations to awards or media - also have no idea if is ok to add them due to copyright issues even if I can access them free on youtube or google). The equipments of the laboratory (that you said should be removed) were obtained with grants and actually are used for large-scale projects - I tried to describe them shortly as ... they refer actually to 'grants' and 'projects'. As do not have enough time, I'll remove all refs. to media and awards. Thanks for understanding...

Thanks for your notes, why don't I qualify?
Hello! Thank you so much for your notes and feedback on my article about fitness personality Billy Blanks Jr. At this point, I have well over 20 external sources and Billy Blanks Jr. is referenced on his father, Billy Blanks, and wife, Sharon Brown's, Wikipedia pages as a notable figure. Billy Blanks Jr. has been a working actor and fitness instructor since the 70s as my sources reflect, so I'm curious as to why this subject does not qualify for a Wikipedia article in your opinion? And what can I do to ensure that this article is approved in the future? Thank you again for your time and guidance.

Best, Taylor

WikiProject update - Performing Arts Aotearoa 04 August
Many thanks to all who have contributed so far. Half way through.

There are two more scheduled edit-a-thons as part of this project: Please diary and attend in person or remotely if you are able.
 * Auckland on Saturday 14 August 10.30am - 4pm at the Auckland Theatre Company studio - 487 Dominion Road, Mt Eden, Auckland 1024. The focus is influential Auckland women in performing arts.
 * Wellington on Saturday 21 Augusts 10.30am - 4pm at the Nola Millar Library, Te Whaea: National Dance and Drama Centre - 11 Hutchison Street, Newtown, Wellington. The focus is staff and graduates of Toi Whakaari and the New Zealand School of Dance.
 * Examples of articles to create: Tanea Heke, Turid Revfeim, Taiaroa Royal, Taane Mete, Sarah Foster-Sproull, Paul Mathews, Dolina Wehipeihana, Miriama McDowell, Cathy Downes, Elizabeth Whiting
 * Examples of articles to improve: New Zealand School of Dance, Hori Ahipene, Mitch Tawhi Thomas, The New Zealand Dance Company, Pop-up Globe

Add suggested articles to the project pages or get in touch with me. A Women in Red (WIR) August campaign is Indigenous women and there are heaps on my list so if you create or improve these articles be sure to tag WIR on the talk page. Pakoire (talk) 09:15, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

UPDATE WIKIPEDIA There are now 31 new Wikipedia articles reported on the project page that include 19 new biographies, 14 of these about women and six are of people of colour (three Māori people). Keep up the good work. Keep seeking out women and people of colour to celebrate through Wikipedia.

WIKIDATA The targets specified in this project for Wikidata were exceeded within the first week of the project with the concerted efforts of two editors. A Wikidata item was created to track entries. Performing Arts Aotearoa New Zealand (Q106787482). With claims of ethnicity the policy is to include references from a biography, interview or personal website. Ethnicity of white people is strongly encouraged to be included where this information is available. Māori is listed and then also iwi (tribe/s).

EDIT-A-THON DUNEDIN The Ōtepoti Dunedin Edit-a-thon was a success. It was at the Hocken Library on Saturday 10 July. The coordinator Pakoire and co-host DrThneed were joined in person by seven others, which included six new editors from the performing arts community, and two people working remotely in Wellington and Christchurch.

The new editors added 27 references to Wikipedia between them and a total of 2,017 words. Comments from new editors after they had learnt the basics and started editing related to how accessible they found doing it. There was motivation amongst many in the group to continue to meet as a way of progressing the articles they are interested in. With the experienced editors overall including Wikidata the edit-a-thon added 48.1K words, 4 commons uploads, 245 references, across 53 articles including 4 new Wikipedia articles and 15 new Wikidata articles. COI Conflict of interest (COI) is an area of consideration for editing in performing arts, since most subject experts are also practicing arts and producers. The edit-a-thon / meetup format was useful and people worked on unrelated articles but in tandem with others who knew where to get information.

IMAGES There is more work to do to create opportunities to upload images to Wikimedia Commons under appropriate licences, as predicted this involves a lot of education with individuals and organisations as well as motivating people to follow through. Take some pics of a local entertainment venue and upload them. Music venues, amateur arts, town hall, converted theatre, you would be surprised what isn’t there.

SUPPORT All edits count - reach out if you need help or guidance and many thanks for any contribution you can make.

Pakoire (talk) 09:15, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Request on 19:44:43, 4 August 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Shepherdonhydra
Good evening MurielMary! I recently submitted an article- thank you for your comments! I wanted to ask you about the sources, as you said they didn't qualify for a wikipedia article. Was the problem with the published Marie Claire article and a Business Day article the fact they are solely about the article's subject, Naza? I hoped that because they from a reputable source, they would be deemed independent enough. Is it not possible to use articles/interviews with the subject of the article as references? Thank you so much for your help! Very best, Shepherdonhydra

Shepherdonhydra (talk) 19:44, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

My Draft...
Hello MurielMary, thank you for reviewing the submission, but I need to understand why the list is too long? I have seen pages with longer lists and they all exist. What can I do to get the Draft accepted? How do I choose?

Thank youQuotassent (talk) 16:42, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Maud Cameron for deletion
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Nomination of Dk Nadiah Pg Khashiem for deletion
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Nomination of Narantulga Buriad for deletion
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WikiProject update - Performing Arts Aotearoa 19 August
A short update this time. The project has created 74 new Wikipedia articles and improvements to many. An example is one person has been working through improving and creating notable composers of New Zealand which is a great enhancement to Wikipedia. There is a now a regular meetup happening in Ōtepoti.

The COVID19 status of New Zealand means the next workshop is fully online. Wellington Saturday 21 August Please add yourself to the project page and dashboard of you are able to do any editing. You can join into the zoom (link below) – come to the introduction at 10.30am, pop into the ‘Tearoom’ to say hello to others and informally ask questions. You can also work by yourself (please add yourself to the dashboard for the reporting).

Here is a google doc with suggested articles categories as 'dance' and 'theatre' with links to references. You can make suggestions with comments.


 * Articles to develop Performing Arts Aotearoa google doc

Saturday 21 Aug ZOOM Wikipedia Edit-a-thon 10.30am - 4.00pm Join at any time - you might have to wait to be let it.

Join Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85672644820?pwd=QnJWdXk1TCtZenBEaHJMZEZGbXRWdz09

Meeting ID: 856 7264 4820 Passcode: 907118

WikiProject update - Performing Arts Aotearoa 08 September
The Performing Arts Aotearoa Wikiproject officially ends in 2 days. I am happy with the momentum that has built since the project started. Many thanks to everybody who was able to contribute.

There are 99 new articles listed on the project page. Performing Arts Aotearoa Wikiproject
 * If there are others not listed please can you update.
 * If you have a draft waiting to be moved into main space please list it too (or move it)

I am looking to maintain the project in an ongoing way connected to New Zealand Wikipedia, I will let you know where.

Pakoire (talk) 03:35, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Susan Jordan


A tag has been placed on Susan Jordan requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a real person or group of people that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Wen Li (space physicist) has been accepted
 Wen Li (space physicist), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Stub-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. It is commonplace for new articles to start out as stubs and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the  [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_talk/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Wen_Li_(space_physicist) help desk] . Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

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Thanks again, and happy editing! MurielMary (talk) 10:37, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021
Hello ,

Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our  Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but  there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.

At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.

There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software. Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here. To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here. Sent to 827 users. 04:32, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

too many edit conflicts
I'll wait till youve done your bit - I seemed to find quite afew correlating trove refs that can reduce reliance on the adb item whichis the problem anyways. Good onyour bold editing ! JarrahTree 11:29, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Cheers for that! I'm done for tonight, so over to you! I did some more paraphrasing and ran the article through CopyVio again - it's at 52% which is better than what it was, but could still be improved! MurielMary (talk) 11:34, 12 October 2021

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 * Thanks for that - your hard work is much appreciated... JarrahTree 11:47, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

About Kathryn McGrath
MM - I really don't see how this article meets WP:NPROF. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:14, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Suggested article for women in oceania
Hi. I see that you have been active in the Women in Oceania contest. Also, when I think I have found an interesting woman to write about I invariably find that you have already written the article! You may like to take a look at Hilda Halkyard-Harawira. To do her justice needs a knowledge of Maori culture, which I do not have. Thanks. Roundtheworld (talk) 09:52, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Kia ora, and thanks for posting here! I'm very impressed by your extremely productive October in Women in Oceania - what a great contribution you've made this month! You're right, I have written quite a few women's biographies but there are definitely plenty more to look at. I've actually just added another redlist to the contest page, and that's Dr Thneed's list of women who have won a NZ Women of Influence award. Thanks for the idea of looking into Hilda. The Harawira family is very well known and politically strong, so I'm sure I will be able to find some good sources. Cheers, and happy editing! MurielMary (talk) 10:16, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Elizabeth Kopel for deletion
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Elizabeth Kopel
Hi. Why has your article on this lady been deleted? Thanks. Roundtheworld (talk) 19:21, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

January 2022 with Women in Red
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