User talk:Murry1975/Archive6

ANI and minors
Hello, Murry. I noticed your report on ANI about a minor self-posting identifying information. I have suppressed the page in question, but in the future, do not make these reports to a noticeboard. ANI and AN are the two most visible pages on the site, and the last thing we want to do is further publicize this information. I've had to suppress your report and a number of subsequent revisions from ANI because your own report included the minor's name and age. If you do come across something similar in the future, please email so it can be handled privately. Thank you. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 22:19, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Vandalism
Please read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Darragh_MacAnthonyTalk:Darragh MacAnthony I think you have been the unwitting victim of MacAnthony's Wiki Vandalism. He initially had someone or even himself remove bad comment and add his own spin. He then tried to promote his ventures through the page and that having failed he now just simply keeps editing the page so someone like yourself goes and deletes everything. The page used to have links to Companies house proving the liquidation of companies and legitimate links lawyers and victims pages. What you have done is helping this criminal. 109.145.54.169 (talk) 18:38, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Please understand that everything on the page has to sourced and and conform to biography standards. If it aint in the source it gets removed, if it aint sourced it gets removed. Whether it was MacAnthony doing it is not a proven. Murry1975 (talk) 18:27, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Talkback (Ks0stm)
Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 19:55, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Go n-éirí an bóthar leat
Thanks for your message Murry, hopefully when/if I do return your IP friend has got what's coming to him. So much for keeping it low key, go gcuire Dia an t-ádh ort. ★☆ DUCK IS JAMMMY ☆★ 09:43, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Email from Wiki
Hi Murry, I've sent you 2 emails (I think!)

Will check it out. Murry1975 (talk) 14:48, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

visitor
Given that you and I are the two people to have received that charming post, it would appear that RealEarthquake has found another IP number. Kevin McE (talk) 20:49, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does seem so, I only have one of the pages on my list that he likes to frequent- I might have to increase my knowledge of MSL! No doubt he will be back in some shape or form. Murry1975 (talk) 05:33, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Sent a post to Beckah Shae on her facebook page to write and verify her date of birth.
http://www.facebook.com/beckahshae

I have added the edit taking reference to Wikipedia only, as I found Beckah Shae missing in 1st of September births in 1978 ,inspite of Beckah Shae's immense contributions to religion and humanity.Mamta Jagdish Dhody (talk) 07:34, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Her article is missing a ref for it, WP:PRIMARY- but if there is little else to go on, if it is her on facebook that may be able to be used- check WP:RS, if it can add to her article and then just undo my edit, there will be no need on the 1 september page. Cherrs Murry1975 (talk) 08:08, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Can you elaborate on your changes to Comhairle Fo-Thuinn?
Hi Murry1975, I noticed that you made changes to the CFT article and left the following message - '(CFT only ROI since 1975, FSAC associated do BUF in NI)'. Can you please explain why you changed the article? I will explain why I stated that there are CFT clubs in NI. Firstly, the CFT website indicates that there are currently 3 clubs in CFT - please refer  Secondly, I found some recent CFT AGM minutes (circa 2011) online which indicate the existence of CFT clubs in NI (i.e. the Derry branch). Thirdly, the very existence of Northern Ireland Federation of Sub-Aqua Clubs, the sports governing body for 'Sub Aqua' (as it is called in the UK) in NI, is on the basis that non-BSAC clubs need to be included. Fourthly, there is BSAC branches in the ROI; there was also a Scottish Sub Aqua Club branch until relatively recently. Look forward to your reply. Cowdy001 (talk) 11:46, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi back Cowdy, to qoute you "the very existence of Northern Ireland Federation of Sub-Aqua Clubs, the sports governing body for 'Sub Aqua' (as it is called in the UK)", the UK and Ireland are two different countries, and use different governing bodies in sports and recreation, though these sometimes over-lap, again as you point out with an BSAC branches in Ireland, as well as CFT branhes in the UK (NI). Murry1975 (talk) 09:40, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Are you still about?
I haven't seen your name recently, so I wondered if you were still active. I hope that you are, and that you are well. Cheers! --- The Old Jacobite The '45  17:12, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the massage. I am around but due to workload not very often, it will lighten up soon and I will be on more. Hope all is well with yourself bud. Murry1975 (talk) 09:09, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I am holding my own, as the man says. Glad you are still here, though I do understand having other responsibilities.  Cheers! --- The Old Jacobite The '45  01:16, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Media_of_Ireland#Split_proposal
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Media_of_Ireland. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 21:39, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

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Media of Ireland
Your help is needed on the Media of Ireland article - now split out per our discussion. Thanks! --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 14:49, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Póilíní Airm
Hi. Can I just check why you reverted the PA back to the Military Police? Brocach (talk) 18:24, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * An other editor originally moved to to MP(I), I moved it back to PA, mentioned IMOS dealing with Irish names on the talkpage. Then I went to the link that the other editor had included in his summary (should have done that first) http://www.military.ie/army/organisation/army-corps/military-police which gives MP as usage so I self reverted. Why whats up? Murry1975 (talk) 18:48, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Nothing, just wondered. Brocach (talk) 18:50, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * BTW BWG reverting is getting tedious, was coming on to give you a shout. The last time I had problems like that the editor was Factocop and you commented on it on the IMOS tp. Murry1975 (talk) 18:54, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * God preserve us from comparisons like that. I only reverted twice, on the assumption that you hadn't understood my explanation first time around. My point was only that the BWG franchise for Mace operates only in the 26 counties; see here and here. In the north it's Musgrave, which is unrelated to BWG (and also based in the south). The article as was implied that the BWG franchise covers all of Ireland, and that there were only 220 Mace stores in Ireland, when there are 230 in the larger jurisdiction and 150 in the smaller. Brocach (talk) 20:27, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * While I'm passing, I see you haven't chipped in at Talk:Limerick. Brocach (talk) 20:35, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * lol sorry about that, hope it didnt come across wrong- hopefully it gave you a smile. The discussion was based on reverts from the Odeon cinema article- where again there is a 26 county presence aswell as one in NI- though it is listed as UK-Ireland. The main thing was that its perfectly ok to use, I will read over BWG next week when I get the chance. The only thing you done that irked me was the W in west, it reads West of Ireland, its not a proper noun and should be west of Ireland, yes I may be dyslexic but I still have a touch of OCD....or CDO- its like OCD but all the letters are in alphabetical order as they should be ;)
 * Limerick is an odd one, like Cork, or Boston really, which should have primary- I havent fully made my mind up. Red Stash(? think thats his name) has made an lot of presumptious edits on the outcome. When I finally have a decent enough opinion I will throw it in with a comment- if I dont throw one in its either because I havent been able to decide or I just have got busy in life (again!!).
 * Cheers bud. Murry1975 (talk) 21:08, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Ireland / Republic of Ireland
The WP:IMOS states that "Republic of Ireland", not "island of Ireland", should be the disambiguator in articles such as Caherconree. "Island of Ireland" should only be the disambiguator "where the state forms a major component of the topic (e.g. on articles relating to states, politics or governance)". Natural features such as mountains, lakes and rivers don't fall under this. Thus, the lede of Caherconree should be:"Caherconree is a mountain peak on the Dingle Peninsula in County Kerry, Republic of Ireland. At 835 m (2,740 ft), it is the second-highest peak of the Slieve Mish Mountains and the 26th highest in Ireland." ~Asarlaí 22:45, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I think this is based on a misreading of IMoS: "the names of major geographic features and locations should not be linked", meaning that Ireland is enough when referring to natural features such as mountains, lakes and rivers. The logic is that these geographical features predated, and may post-date, the present state. Brocach (talk) 23:09, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry gents been busy off-line. There was a discussion on this before (started by myself) here, location is state based, even if the existence of the topic pre-dates the state. "the names of major geographic features and locations should not be linked", means using Ireland- as in unlinked, either wiki-linked or pipe-linked, but as is the case here they should be linked to show location (as is primary) and the second mention of the island for clarity.
 * Ireland, Brocach, as primary would be inconsistant, as the rivers of Northern Ireland use NI as primary not Ireland even tough it equally applies. I have no objections to a re-run on IMOS tp to see if consensus has changed. Murry1975 (talk) 15:20, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Strokestown / Architecture of Ireland / Removal of Edits
Hello once again! I just noticed that you have removed all my edits to both the article on Strokestown Park and the article on the Architecture of Ireland. Bit extreme of you, don't you think?!! Surely you would agree that my rather minor edits actually improved these articles? For example, in the 20th century section of the Architecture of Ireland, it completely ignores the fact that three of the most iconic buildings to be constructed anywhere in Ireland in the entire 20th century were Belfast City Hall, Government Buildings in Dublin, and Parliament Buildings at Stormont. And I say that as a fully paid-up member of the U.A.H.S.!! And I was only 'tidying up' that article on Strokestown Park, which is a very poorly written article. Yet you have removed all my rather moderate, quite minor edits. Have to say, old chap, there are far, far worse edits on Wikipedia than my humble interventions!! With the greatest respect to yourself, I am starting to feel harrassed and bullied by you on Wikipedia. You seem a bit fanatical about all this, old chap! I really must ask you, again with the greatest respect, to 'back off' a bit, mate.

I also note that all my edits to the Castle Saunderson article have been, rather unfairly, removed by you as well. As it happens, my partner was 'born and bred' only a few miles from Castle Saunderson. I regularly go for walks there when I am down in south Fermanagh or north-east County Cavan. And yet you have removed all my rather minor edits from that article. Again I use the term: harrassment. I look forward to your response. Laggan Boy (talk) 20:37, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh you are communicating agian, thanks. Firstly I will remind you of the guidelines I have on occassion posted on your talkpage, that you ignore. WP:OVERLINK, WP:HONORIFIC and most importantly WP:OR. I do apologise if you feel uncomfortable, but you are ignoring the guidelines and make rubbish edits, such as reverted here I will get back to these in a moment . Your edits to castle Saunderson as you explain here on my page are original reseaerch.
 * Now back to the Snow edits. The Free State no longer existed when he was born, your edits were non-factual, misleading and unencyclopedic.
 * You have been blocked as an IP on several occassions for such edits, the Belfast Library IP being one that springs to mind.
 * Your obsession with adding Honorifics and referring to such people simply by "Sir", "Lord" and so forth is again not supported by guidelines.
 * My reverts are based on WP:MOS and its sub manuals. I dont think removing overlinking, OR, and anything else that I have pointed out to you from yor time as an IP until now is unfair, I feel that you have time and time again ignored my communications with you and that of other editors who have cleaned up poor edits that are not encyclopedic. Murry1975 (talk) 21:40, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, first of all, thank-you for the response. I note that you ask people, at the top of your Talk Page, to be polite to each other when posting comments here. Yet it is okay for you to openly insult people about their edits!! An example of this is you referring to my edits as 'rubbish'! Hardly a polite or well mannered comment!

On the Peter Snow article, I don't think I edited the article to say that he was born in the Irish Free State. My edit said that he was born in what later became popularly known as the Republic of Ireland. However, my edit stated that, at the time of Snow's birth, the state in which he was born was still officially a dominion within what was still called the British Commonwealth of Nations and that that dominion was officially called Éire. I may be mistaken here, but at no point did I say that Peter Snow was born in the Irish Free State. As you rightly say, officially, the Irish Free State ceased to exist at some point over the year 1936-1937. Historians disagree slightly about when exactly the Free State ceased to exist. It was certainly completely replaced upon the introduction of Bunreacht na hÉireann in Dec. 1937. From that point on, the official name of the state was Éire. However, the state remained a dominion within the Commonwealth until it left in April 1949. All member states of the Commonwealth were officially called dominions until the late 1940s at least. This is just another example of where you have removed my edit rather unfairly. Laggan Boy (talk) 08:31, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

As regards Castle Saunderson, you removed my rather minor edits, even though I was basing my edits on an article called 'The Saundersons of Castle Saunderson' written by Winifred Curtin, a local historian. The article appeared in Breifne: The Journal of the Breifne Historical Society, Vol. X, No. 39, published in 2003 and edited by Dr Brendan Scott, a young historian now based at N.U.I., Maynooth. The society is the main historical society covering County Cavan and County Leitrim (especially the eastern part of County Leitrim). I added a 'Further Reading' section to the Castle Saunderson article, listing Ms. Curtin's article. And yet you still removed all my minor edits from the Castle Saunderson article (which, surely you will agree, is quite a badly written article).

My edits even included the rather learned view of the late Mark Bence-Jones, the great architectural historian, that Castle Saunderson was probably - emphasising probably - designed by Edward Blore, the famous British architect who designed the nearby Crom Castle. Blore, I think, was from Edinburgh. Ms. Curtin quotes Bence-Jones in her article in Breifne. Yet, for some reason, you regarded all this as 'rubbish' and removed the lot!!

God knows, I may have been an unintentional 'sinner' on Wikipedia in the past!! That may be true, to an extent. It was certainly never my intention to disrupt in any way the Wikipedia 'project'. However, I am now a 'registered' person on Wikipedia, trying my best to be open, accountable and 'above board'. And yet I seem to be absolutely harrassed by your good self on Wikipedia!! It is not much of an encouragement to people to become registered 'Wikipedians'!!

And to clear another point up: in the recent past, I carried out a lot of my editing from Strabane Community Library and rarely (if ever!) from any library in Belfast. The library in Strabane is part of the Northern Ireland Library Authority, better known simply as Libraries N.I.. This body is headquartered in Lisburn. Laggan Boy (talk) 13:01, 15 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Your edits fail to mention citations or references when you add them, deal with that aspect, WP:OR, if you know something it doesnt count, reference it use citations. Also you edits are essay like, with descriptive phrasing, this maybe good and useful in other places but not in an encyclopedia.If you can ref it or cite it do- thats the most important thing on here.
 * Your edit on Snow was ridiculous, long winded and changing the infobox from WP:IRE-IRL guidelines, like you have done in the past, was again unhelpful.
 * I ask people to be polite, twice accusing me of harrasment in 24 isnt. I comment on edits not the editor, as is done above.
 * And do me a favour on talkpages- especailly this one, dont wiki-link anything that doesnt need to be.
 * The edits you made were IP geolocating to Belfast library- I will look them up if you wish.
 * As I have stated to yourself before, you have the knowledge to improve the project, just use references and dont add trivia, essay-like phrasing and sentences, and most importantly only add notable information to it.
 * Now if I can be of help to you, as I have stated from your time as an IP, I will give you assistance, but if I come across edits the you have made that do not conform to guidelines I will, as anybody on here can, undo or revert these.
 * So add citations- without these the encyclopedia looks weak, avoid longwinded language, follow guidelines and use the edit summary to say what you have done- I think this is very helpful and also will help others understand your edits. Murry1975 (talk) 13:37, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

May 2013
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Daniel Devine
Take a look again ;)

If you disagree with my addition to the wording of the cat then let me know, we could raise it at WP:FOOTY. Cheers, GiantSnowman 15:44, 23 May 2013 (UTC)


 * No probs, have a look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football. GiantSnowman 16:07, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

June 2013
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Keith Gallagher
Yeah please list him, section is here, just add him to the bottom of the 'PRODs' section. Cheers, GiantSnowman 08:23, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

British v Scottish for motor racing
Hi there, yes – you're right. If we're talking official nationality with regard to a driver's career ("sporting nationality"), then all British drivers have British licences and are classified as British by the FIA. The British Motor Sports Association is the FIA's only representative here, and there is no English / Scottish / Welsh equivalent, so it's technically impossible to compete as English / Scottish etc at top level motor sports. The text can of course mention English / Scottish etc but the infobox must say British. The only possible exceptions might be drivers who race in American series, where sometimes England / Scotland is used. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 15:55, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

UDR
Hi Murry. Thanks for your edit on the Ulster Defence Regiment article. It would help me a lot to know why I shouldn't have used bold text to highlight the National Arboretum memorial. I'm engaged in substantial editing on the article and endeavouring to upgrade it to A Class on Milhist so any assistance or opinion I can get could be really useful. Would you be kind enough to reply on the article's talk page please so that a collegiate pattern of discussion emerges from your input and so other interested parties can comment? Thank you so much. SonofSetanta (talk) 13:33, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
 * NP. Murry1975 (talk) 13:35, 29 June 2013 (UTC)