User talk:Murry1975/Archive9

Posting to AN
Yes, you can add to the AN thread. Dougweller (talk) 06:11, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

 * No problem. But if he has been editing for six years and he is that bad an AN/I on his competence will be needed when his unblock tomorrow.(I wont be around when that happens, sorry). Murry1975 (talk) 19:18, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I have a feeling he'll get bored and won't bother returning. Will keep an eye out. JMHamo (talk) 19:22, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * He is having fun. Well I cant keep an eye. Hot date time :))))) Laters peeps Murry1975 (talk) 19:23, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * How was the date? Tyau123 (talk) 3:19, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes the date was amazing we had a lovely time Murry paid for everything. Thank you for asking Tyaul, haha. (Sorry I couldn't resist feeding the troll) &#9733;&#9734; DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 08:39, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * ^banter Tyau123 (talk) 16:03, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Gaisce
Why did you once again revert the Gaisce article? It covers the whole country, not just the Republic. A ref has been provided, yet you still replaced Ireland with Republic of Ireland. Why? 79.97.64.240 (talk) 22:17, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * "A person is also employed to operate the Award in Northern Ireland under the administration of the Duke of Edinburgh’s Award". 22:27, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * "I live in Northern Ireland. Can I do The President's Award?-
 * No. In Northern Ireland The Duke of Edinburgh's Award has a Joint Agreement with Gaisce - The President's Award which enables young people who complete their programme to have a choice of Award certification: a Duke of Edinburgh's Award Certificate, a Gaisce - The President's Award Certificate or an International Award Certificate". Answered on their website. Murry1975 (talk) 22:47, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * "In 2005 under an agreement, initiated by the Award patron in Ireland and the UK, and brokered by the Duke of Edinburgh’s Award International Award Association, Gaisce became available to young people in Northern Ireland under the Joint Award initiative." - in other words, the Award is given to anybody in Ireland, north or south, who qualifies. It is not merely a RofI award.79.97.64.240 (talk) 00:05, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * "under the Joint Award initiative", they themselves as linked ablove say that someone in NI cant do it, they do the DoE and can choose which cert they get, which is the paragraph you have removed, with citations from both Gaisce and DoE. Murry1975 (talk) 09:23, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Any reasonable objection? Murry1975 (talk) 23:26, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Copied to gaisce tp Murry1975 (talk) 10:12, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Help
Hi Murry1975,

You and another person who monitors the articles have indicated the same things which I am doing wrong. I thought the process was a lot easier then it is and have looked into getting some professional advice/help from someone who is better then I am at this.

Once things are clearer to me and more importantly in better shape to be accepted by yourselves, these articles will be submitted again. I wasn't aware I was meant to save them to be reviewed and then move forward from there.

I do apologise and sorry for my poor understanding on how to use Wikipedia in the right way.

Kindest regards,

--Riddleman7 (talk) 22:31, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Simon Palmer & Back2Basics
Hi Murry1975

You recently the deleted the page that was set for the radio show Back2Basics indicating that it was a local radio show and not of sufficient notability. We're listened to by 100,000 worldwide through iTunes, are a Feature Podcast on Podbean and would also like to confirm that show has now been picked up by national radio and we're in the process of transferring to RTE. The show will shortly be airing on RTE Pulse and will be the first all vinyl radio show on RTE in approx 20 years (RTE's PR department is confirming the exact date). I can't confirm this on my page yet because we haven't made the formal announcement with RTE. This is why I recently amended my own page to highlight that the show has finished on Dublin South FM. My apologies as I forgot to log in. Once we make the announcement from RTE I hope to be able to reinstate the page for the show itself. Will this be possible? Is there anywhere the content is saved? I will also annotate my own page.

Thanks for your help.

Simon Palmer --Simonjohnpalmer (talk) 18:25, 7 January 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simonjohnpalmer (talk • contribs) 17:51, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Stop editng that page. WP:COI. Stop edtng your article page, again COI. You shouldnt confirm anything on "your page". Stop using wikpedia to promote yourself and your show. If it is indeed notable enough others will do the editing for you. Understand this is an encyclopedia with notability criteria, a collection of many things, please read these links. I see you have had a few articles deleted, and also copyright issues over images.
 * You are on here since 2007, with over 400 edits (not including deleted articles, nearly 80 deleted edits). So not a fantastic high total, but still one that would allow you to come to an understanding of wikipedia. My utter honest advice to you is read the links I have given, dont edit an article that mentions you, dont create one either, read as many guidelines, WP:MOS is a must read, it shows the standard style edits n here.
 * I hope these are helpful to you, but I will be blunt, dont promote yourself on here. Edit martial arts articles, improve the ones you already have edited, and enjoy being on here. Murry1975 (talk) 18:55, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

OK thanks for the advice, which I will read and refresh myself with. Thanks, Simon Simonjohnpalmer (talk) 21:11, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Back2Basics
Hi Murry1975, I was just updating the page of national Irish broadcaster RTE Pulse, providing details of various shows that are not included. I have just seen that one of the pages has been deleted for a new show called Back2Basics. I was going to add a page. Are you aware that the show is national show on RTE. It is the first all viny show on RTE (for 20 years) and is now significantly more than a local show of insignificance for which it looks like it was deleted. I also understand it has significant international listeners. Is is possible to reinstate the page for the show. Regards, Roger P.S. Sorry as I saved I saw the comments on the show above. I can confirm that what is stated there is correct.

Charles Algernon Parsons's Nationality
Dingley doesn't give up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charles_Algernon_Parsons&diff=prev&oldid=590820589

Do you want to, or should I? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.2.213 (talk) 15:12, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

I added some information on Charles Algernon Parsons, and I just happened to note it was quickly removed, both last week and today. Why is this? Why do you want to remove references to Ireland? Parsons came from a famous Irish scientific & Engineering family, from a town named after them, 'Parsonstown'. Parsons is celebrated in Ireland, but yet a neutral reader would think he had little or no connection to Ireland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donn300 (talk • contribs) 22:26, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * The fact is do you have references to add Ireland? He came from an Anglo-Irish back ground- mentioned and sourced. He was born in England, grow-up in Engalnd, studied in Ireland and England, and businesses were English. All sourced. Now how is he Irish? And yes he did have little connection with Ireland. Murry1975 (talk) 15:58, 23 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Charels Parsons grew up in the family home in Ireland (in fact he also grew up in the family town, called "Parsonstown"! Parsonstown is now called Birr, in County Offaly (formerly known as King's County)). Charles and his brothers were tutored by eminent scholars working in his father's observatory at Birr Castle on the Western edge of the town. He then went to a good univesity in the capital, Trinity College Dublin, and later went to Cambridge. By contrast, what is is your view on the great philosopher G.E.M. Anscombe? She was born in Limerick, Ireland, but nobody says she was Irish (nor "Anglo-Irish"), she was a British person who happened to have been born in Ireland (her father was stationed there). There are countless examples of the same. Also, using the term "Anglo-Irish" does explain a bit more about a person's heritage, and social class, but in fact the "Anglo-Irish" were surprised to hear of themselves being described as a 'hyphenated Irish' person! This is because they themselves considered themselves as "Irish". At different stages of varying political debate and intensity some of the (Anglo-)Irish may have called themselves British ASWELL.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donn300 (talk • contribs) 19:13, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

.Donn300 (talk) 20:53, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Back2Basics Definition national or not?
Hi Murry1975, RTE Pulse is defined as national by RTE are they are the national broadcaster obviously, but also because the stations can be picked up national via the RTE Saorview service, and also UPC, so whilst digital coverage and UPC are not quite national Saorviews does cover the whole of the country. RTE also included reference to it being national radio in their media release. All their stations are national in some way as far as I'm aware. Thanks, Simon Simonjohnpalmer (talk) 20:35, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * "RTÉ Pulse is one of a suite of digital radio services from RTÉ available on digital radio (where available), on Saorview Channel 205, UPC channel 943 and the internet via the RTÉ Radio Player, which is available on all mobile devices", qoute from the cite you added, nothing about it being national.
 * Its a digital service, or are you now going to claim because its on the internet its an international one like you have done before?
 * I have asked you before to stop editing your own article. Murry1975 (talk) 20:43, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Murry1975, I only added references, I didn't alter text. Saorview is a national service, and RTE Pulse is national digital station i.e. you can get it wherever you live in the country and that's without having to resort to the internet. Yes they put "where available" after digital but they shouldn't have to put "nationally" after Saorview because they assume everyone knows it is national. RTE also included 'national radio' in the quote they wrote for me in their media release. If you don't want to put that then it's cool, no biggie. Thanks anyway. Simonjohnpalmer (talk) 20:57, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Just checked Wikipedia's own definition of RTE Pulse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTÉ_Pulse and it says in the info box "Broadcast Area: NATIONAL, Ireland". Maybe I'm being pedantic but I'd hate my page to contradict the main page for RTE Pulse ;) 109.255.90.92 (talk) 21:03, 20 January 2014 (UTC) That was me that added that last comment. Sorry I hadn't realised I'd logged out. Simonjohnpalmer (talk) 21:04, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

January 2014, your edits to Talk:Ireland
Hey Murry,

Why did you summarily reject my move request without so much as even sitting down to talk about it? I wanted to bring the matter up for discussion, and if such a function hadn't been locked for the article (as it was), I would've performed the move myself. Any thoughts on your decision? Leave them on my talk page. User:Davidfreesefan23 (talk) 22:20, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry I didnt get to reply before you were blocked, my bad? Murry1975 (talk) 19:49, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

The Tudors
Thanks for reverting, I checked up the article talk, its written in American English therefore spitting image should be used which you did, again thanks for that. Actually the title "Tudors" led me into believing that the article used British syntax.  Soham  10:35, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Disruptive Editing Warning
Hi, Murry1975. I thought I'd let you know that if you persist in moving my comments out of where as shown in this diff|I put them, or if you persist in using foul language in our edit discussion, you will have to be reported to ANI. Also, please stop leaving comments on my Talk page in unrelated sections. It's confusing and disruptive. If you need help in starting a new section, feel free to ask. BlueSalix (talk) 17:50, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Discussion at ANI
Seeing as your mentioned and involved in that discussion at the Duke of Edinburgh article you should be made aware of this: Administrators'_noticeboard. Mabuska (talk) 01:21, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Dear Murray
I am the person who recently deleted a line from your entry on the Provisional IRA:

'"The United States includes them in the category of "other selected terrorist groups also deemed of relevance in the global war on terrorism"'

The source you quoted is the US State Department's Country Report on Terrorism. You have cited the (outdated)2004 report which included this section at the bottom. However this is not an official designation(unlike the FTO categorization),hence it was changed to "Other Groups of concern" in 2006 (http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2006/82738.htm) and removed completely from all subsequent reports(latest is http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2012/209989.htm). This is the reason I deleted the offending line. Perhaps if you modified it to use the past tense it would be acceptable. In any case, I was trying to help improve the accuracy of this entry and would appreciate it if you would be a little more courteous in future(calling someone a "quack" and questioning their grasp of English is offensive and unnecessary). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.71.202.123 (talk) 12:52, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Eva Birthistle
Please can you stop editing/reverting personal information about Spouse, this was updated correctly. Thanks Eva & Ross — Preceding unsigned comment added by RonSpa (talk • contribs) 14:25, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Murray. You've done it again? Why? I don't understand why it's now incorrect and it's causing upset. If you want to keep your own version fine but can you do your research and get it right. Eva Birthistle — Preceding unsigned comment added by RonSpa (talk • contribs) 06:27, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0083795/bio?ref_=nm_ql_1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by RonSpa (talk • contribs) 08:39, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

See the bit where it says DIVORCED. Please leave my update as it is Murray. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RonSpa (talk • contribs) 08:42, 10 April 2014 (UTC)


 * MBD isnt a WP:RS for blps, all addition to be bios must be sourced. Stop adding violations. Murry1975 (talk) 08:45, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Are you a robot or a person? I don't understand entirely what you're saying. What would you like me to do email you a divorce certificate!? If you're happy to I can email you directly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RonSpa (talk • contribs) 08:50, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

On here there are guidleines which you are choosing to ingore, you have been reported to admins for your behavour. Murry1975 (talk) 08:52, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

OK, Would you be kind enough to help me update it correctly in the right manor? Thank you Eva — Preceding unsigned comment added by RonSpa (talk • contribs) 08:55, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
 * As per the note (WP:COISELF) left on your page you are not meant to be editing your article. Murry1975 (talk) 09:00, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Dublin Airport
Could you please stop editing Dublin Airport to say that it is located in Fingal as Fingal is not a county. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dobbs1996 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Please help
Can you please help recreate my Antrim Forum article in a more notable fashion? Sorry about our big fight. This is what I have so far: The Antrim Forum is a multi-purpose activity centre located in Antrim, Northern Ireland. It opened in 1972 as the largest of its kind in Northern Ireland and still is to this day. The Antrim Forum has been home to the Antrim Hockey Club since 1991. During the 1980s it was a popular venue for concerts, hosting acts such as Ozzy Osbourne, Meat Loaf, Dio, Status Quo and Metallica.

Boodles
He's a Director of the company. He's not just with the company. We know his role in the company. So why are you removing it? It's not puffery, it's just a fact. He's a director. Not a janitor or a Chairman.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:36, 4 February 2014 (UTC) OK, that's fine.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:41, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

What constitutes vandalism?
Is this vandalism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.138.223.87 (talk) 22:17, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Depends. How long is a piece of string? Mabuska (talk) 23:06, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * please do me the favor69.138.223.87 (talk) 02:55, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Teach you grammar and indention? Murry1975 (talk) 16:04, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

will you please stop stalking me
Stop editing all my stuff what I put up ,it's like your stalking me,peil is not a word in Irish and what is with the gealic word after it ,it does not make sense in Ireland it' just football, you must be from the north  football is soccer ,please I do not want to block you ,please I am not trying to be mean  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tupolevjet (talk • contribs) 22:37, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I only edit your mistakes ;)
 * A quick Irish lesson
 * playing football = ag imirt peile
 * Football = peil
 * Now hopefully you can see this link to a dictionary. Murry1975 (talk) 16:03, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Free clue
At the top of my talk page, there is an infobox identifying me as one of the 400 most active Wikipedians and an admin. I reverted a spam link. I also blocked the spammer who inserted it. Guy (Help!) 21:11, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Spot on, my friend! You are now elevated to the ranks of Senior Rule Ingnorer :-) Guy (Help!) 00:11, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Euromillions edits
Hi there, I see that you have restored an edit that was added by Peterwilson69 on the Euromillions page. I consider that edit to be spam as the citation is to a website that sells Euromillions tickets.

I have raised this edit with the administrators after Peterwilson69 threatened to block me, this led to his edit being reverted and him being blocked by them as a spammer. Yet now you have restored his edit.

Please consider reversing your changes or else explain your reasoning here.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.85.13 (talk) 21:19, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * See above, this is sorted, as I said by email. Worry not. Guy (Help!) 00:12, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

RIC
Just realised you did a revert of the IP as I was editing the section, so just a heads up that my edit sumary is directed at them. Do we need "armed" in the lede? I removed it as the following sentence mentions "unarmed" which to me implies the RIC was armed, as many police services are. I also don't think we need to state the partition in the first sentence as it is mentioned in the last sentence of the paragraph where it gets a little more explanation so think it's unneeded, should also stop the IP. Mabuska (talk) 11:58, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The lead isnt great, I think mentioning it was armed is needed- I will re-jig it later. The IP seems alittle confused :$ Will get back later. Cheers bud. Murry1975 (talk) 12:03, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Smallest re-jig ever! I removed major and replaced it with armed. There was no minor police force, DMP where local to Dublin and that is mentioned. Murry1975 (talk) 12:35, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Help improve page
Hi, would really appreciate your help in reviewing the Law Society of Ireland page - I've made suggestions on how it can be improved on its Talk page but no one has come forward to do the necessary apart from some minor changes. Have also left a message on the WIkipedia Help page but no response. Hope you can help or suggest someone who can FriendlyuserCP (talk) 17:50, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Arklow Town AFD
The technical aspect of the close was fine - but unfortunately you cannot close while there remain valid 'delete' !votes. I would suggest you post a comment at the AFD stating you withdraw, then ping Fenix to advise him that you have done so because of new evidence of notability. If he changes his mind and !vote then you can re-close, if not then it will have to remain open I'm afraid. GiantSnowman 09:17, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Operation Flavius
Am Was I really in violation of 1RR (see ), and if so when am I free to edit? Thanks. Quis separabit? 20:01, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * So at what time would I be free to edit the article? Thanks. Quis separabit?  20:09, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Back2Basics
How come you deleted the information that I added? I amended it to adhere to Wiki's guidelines so that the language was neutral, there was no promo and that references were added to confirm each interview. How come you also removed the logo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simonjohnpalmer (talk • contribs) 20:45, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:COI. Murry1975 (talk) 21:22, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Antrim Forum now definitely notable with new content
Didn't you read the article? I added new content. "It has been approved by the London Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games (LOCOG) as an Olympic standard training facility". Please respond on my talk page. Evangp (talk) 20:34, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:GNG, we dont use ads for notabilty. You are going to end up on ANI if you keep this up. Wasting time and space on here. Murry1975 (talk) 20:36, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Irish Free State map
The 1922 map is too small and its quality is horrible. And it's not even a 1922 map. It's a 1933 (1929-1938 to be more accurate) map just like the one I added. But the borders of Europe didn't really change between 1922 and 1938 so it doesn't really matter. The map I added shows the same thing, but it's bigger, has better quality and shows more than the old, small map. Look at the other pages. These kind of maps are not used anymore, it should have been changed already. --Emihunty (talk) 10:32, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

The old map is a 1922-1938 map and the one I added is also a 1922-38 map, since the borders of Europe didn't really change between 1922 and 1938. I just wrote 1933 on a whim. --Emihunty (talk) 12:11, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you
For undoing vandalism of my user page. --John (talk) 23:05, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Stephen McPhail
I'm not doubting that; I was simply undoing the work of a long-term blocked editor, see and WP:DENY. GiantSnowman 12:46, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

List of foreign Premier League players
Please do some research first before you undo others changes. Nick Proschwitz is now on loan to Championship side Barnsley and Marko Marin has left Chelsea last Summer for FC Sevilla. I also didn't delete Proschwitz, but put his name at the right position according to the alphabetical order. Please be more thoroughly when you edit articles. DrunkenGerman (talk) 20:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Marko Marin is still a Chelse player, on loan to Sevilla, still primary club Chelsea, so you do the research. Murry1975 (talk) 20:10, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Please do read the introduction and requirements of the article before you edit. The list is not about where a player is somehow signed. The list is about capped players. Only players which have been capped in 2013/14 are listed with a "–14" at the seasons. And only players capped in 2013–14 and currently being members of a Premier League squad are in bold. Really poor work by you. DrunkenGerman (talk) 20:19, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Nope you cant read right,
 * Note that seasons, not calendar years, are used. For example, "1992–95" indicates that the player has played in every season from 1992–93 to 1994–95, but not necessarily every calendar year from 1992 to 1995
 * In bold:players who have played at least one Premier League game in the current season (2013–14), and are still at the clubs for which they have played. This does not include current players of a Premier League club who have not played a Premier League game in the current season
 * In other words if is still signed to the club, and he is, he is listed as XXXX- still, but as he hasnt played this season you dont bold him.
 * In your way if he plays for Chelsea when his loan expires he is 2012-13 and 2013-14, yet the above says 2012-14. Murry1975 (talk) 20:26, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Marko Marin has played no game in the Premier League in 2013-14, only in 2012-13. Thus the correct entry is 2012-13. If he would play yet a Premier League game in 2013-14, the entry would be changed to 2012-14. Pretty simple principle....DrunkenGerman (talk) 20:33, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Can-Linn
Hi Murry, you undid my change in Can-Linn. Can means sing (imperative, 2nd person singular), linn means with us. So, why do you think "sing with us" is wrong and "to sing together" is correct? To sing together is canadh le chéile.

The cite in http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=ireland_to_be_represented_by_kasey_smith is wrong. -- MacCambridge (talk) 17:24, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi MacCambridge, it mat be not correct but until one of us two finds a source to say otherwise we have to leave it. I presume it was a translation mix-up, I would say Irish to French or German and then back into English on the the part of Eurovision. Give me a day to try and find a correct translation in an article. Cheers. Murry1975 (talk) 17:55, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
 * A quick search isnt too helpful. Murry1975 (talk) 18:14, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, sorry to insist. ;) The best source for a translation is a good dictionary. The best Irish dictionaries (Ó Dónaill, de Bhaldraithe) are available online. Irish verb can: http://breis.focloir.ie/en/fgb/can (Irish verbs are cited in most dictionaries by their root form, i.e. 2nd person imperative singular, so can = sing! Here's the conjugation of that verb: http://breis.focloir.ie/en/gram/can Irish linn: http://breis.focloir.ie/en/fgb/le Linn is a pronominal form of le = with (see: http://breis.focloir.ie/en/gram/le) so linn = with us. -- MacCambridge (talk) 20:59, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Year-in-country
Pointedly not included in the examples of "intrinsically chronological" articles in the massive community RFC in 2009. Tony  (talk)  11:02, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

L/Derry
In this case WP:IMoS does not apply. It is a historic reference, same as Londonderry City parliamentary constituency. Snappy (talk) 19:38, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
 * What about Vehicle_registration_plates_of_the_United_Kingdom,_Crown_dependencies_and_overseas_territories, are you going to change that too? Snappy (talk) 19:41, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I pointed out another article, thought we might have a discussion about it, but first thing you do is go off and change. That's quite silly. We should probably take this to the naming dispute page and please leave any pages in their current state until the issue has been discussed. Snappy (talk) 19:46, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Done on the UK article, your example is wrong, as per WP:DERRY, Londonderry City parliamentary constituency is a specific entity and should be named as such. While linking to counties and cities we use Derry for the city, no matter when in history.

IMOS then Snappy? Murry1975 (talk) 19:48, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Imos and I left a note on the UK/NI reg page too. Also there was an act of parliament specifying each county/city and its code, the act said Londonderry City - IU, that is what is being referenced in these articles. Snappy (talk) 19:54, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately Snappy, another act states the name of the city as Londonderry not Derry. Murry1975 (talk) 20:15, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
 * You seem to be missing the point, we'll see what others say. Snappy (talk) 21:46, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Bog of Allen
This is a geographical feature so it can best be described as being in the centre of Ireland...no? Sarah777 (talk) 19:37, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
 * No :) There was a discussion previous about the Newgrange sites and the outcome was we use the modern state. Murry1975 (talk) 19:40, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Jeez! I'm not reading all that...so OK. Sarah777 (talk) 20:13, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

My bad!
Sorry for that! >_< --Kutsuit (talk) 18:46, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Its a perfectly easy mistake to make, a hatnote might help. Thanks for the message. Murry1975 (talk) 18:50, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Ulsterrugbyplayer
Hey there. Just an FYI, I've already blocked Ulsterrugbyplayer as a blatant block evasion of Davidoeples. So obvious no point arguing about it. Canterbury Tail  talk  14:28, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Cheers, RPP- you protected just after I filed it, SPI filed you blocked probably before I had finished typing it. If there is no chicken left for my supper I will blame you too :) Murry1975 (talk) 14:39, 20 April 2014 (UTC)


 * :)  Canterbury Tail   talk  14:49, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Michael Fassbender
Hi, thanks for the curatorship you've done on the above article re: relationships. Unfortunately, I am extremely busy IRL and simply don't have the time (or the energy!) to respond to the objections being raised by Malik047 on the talk page. I also don't want this to just be an argument between me and him—right now it looks like I'm the only one making a 'consensus'. If you have a moment please drop a line there with your views; otherwise the silence will probably be taken as an inability to refute the points and the content will just be re-added. Thanks! Julia\talk 19:27, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

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Wikihounding: Cease and desist immediately.
I recall you are the same editor who made implicit threats of wikihouding on my talk page recently. This is deemed a serious conduct violation by Wikipedia policy, as is clearly outlined by WP:STALKING, and especially when it is being coupled with tendentiousness. This appears to be an accurate description of your behavior on the McCann article's talk page, in particular. Indeed, your recent and sudden involvement in multiple unrelated talk page discussions in which I am active implies you are following through with the threats that you've issued. Your actions are being well-documented, and will be brought to the attention of a Wikipedia administrator if they continue. Malik047 (talk) 16:55, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Bring it to the admins attention, as per stalking, if an editor sees behavour which isnt in-line with policy he is perfectly permitted to follow the edits. And throwing around accusations of racism isnt permitted, whether they are specific or general, if they are unfounded.
 * And I didnt threaten you, as was point out by another editor. You have continually shoved a POV on the two articles I, so go on WP:ANI is where to go, and it will save me filing it. Murry1975 (talk) 17:17, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Deleting text
Hi Murray1975,

I noticed that you have removed content from Laura Whitmore's page. Please could you explain why you did this? I am contacting you from Laura's Management and Laura would like this reverted please. Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoneyManagementUK (talk • contribs) 16:35, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Deleting text
Hi Murray1975,

I noticed that you have deleted the changes to the Tower Records page. I understand and appreciate your position, however how can we update with documented sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Music.rflynn (talk • contribs) 14:36, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Removing my post
You removed my posts twice. Here is American government list of Lt Colonels in the Air Force selected 2012. Please look at page 3. If you are looking for reliable source here is the link.

http://www.afpc.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-121205-036.pdf

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salahito (talk • contribs) 00:41, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

There are a couple of reasons not to include him. One he is nowhere cited as Druze (should be eas enough), and the big number two he is not notable to have an article. Wikipedia is not a collection of random lists and facts. Its an encyclopedia, and these lists have a form. Maybe in a few years time he will have an article but not now and unfortunately we dont guess at these things. Murry1975 (talk) 19:04, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

How many Lebanese, Druze, doctor and Lt colonels in USAF do you know? If Samir Kuntar the infamous is notable! You should keep this list for people like him. Thank You.

Thanks for removing Samir Kuntar.

Gaelic football
Hello Murry1975,

I see you have removed my insert on the Gaelic football wiki to the Gaelic football rankings on the grounds that they are unofficial with no source. Nevertheless, I clearly stated that the rankings were unofficial and in the Gaelic football rankings page, the method used to calculate the rankings, in addition to the source of all information, are clearly described.

If you have any other concerns about linking a Gaelic football page to a unofficial Gaelic football ranking page, please let me know so that I can address them. In the meantime, if you can undo your delete, it would be appreciated.

(Mistakenly posted this in your archives last week - first time using the talk function!)

Cheers. Tinahinse 11:46, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

OVERLINK
Hi there MURRY, AL from Portugal "here",

i'll never understand that approach by WP (to me the only thing that should not be linked even once would be "England", and common words as "hand", "nose" or "eating", etc), but i have to respect it.

Happy week, cheers --AL (talk) 19:01, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Removing my links
Hello You removed my links the other day. I am sorry if you thought I was spamming. I was just inserting an external link to the page to a website that I thought was very relevant to the subject matter of page - ie: the page is about rivers and the website is also pertaining to rivers and seems to be earnestly researched and hardly inappropriate. I'm sorry that I put this information out in quick succession on a few pages and it obviously appeared to be spam to you! All I can say to you is that I acted in good faith and had no malicious or devious intention. I hope you could reverse the removals. Birdhillbilly (talk) 20:13, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Birdhillbilly, first of all welcome to wikipedia. I understand you acted in good faith but I am not going to reverse my removals on the basis that the generic site you listed adds nothing that isnt contained in the articles themselves. Sorry about that, but if you have a more specific site you know that could be added in my opinion. I see I wasnt the only one who removed your links, thats usually an indicator that links are not meant to be added by some guideline on here. Murry1975 (talk) 12:40, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Murry, while the link to http://www.dicklerfitz.com/ probably shouldn't be added to all of the individual river pages, I still think it would be a benefit if it were added to the Rivers of Ireland page. Within that page there are rivers listed that have no length details (let alone flow rate details!). Important rivers like the Inny, Boyle, Laune, Kings, Brosna have no lengths given! Some rivers have lengths given but with no references or sources - Moy, Liffey, Slaney. The river Suck has a wrong length given with no reference and an external link to data from an 1846 source. Other pages like the river Lee has a reference that leads nowhere. Also I think a link http://www.dicklerfitz.com/lakes/ would be of benefit to the List of loughs of Ireland as it supplies extra info: perimeter lengths, lake volumes etc. Birdhillbilly (talk) 20:21, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Murry. OK I give up - House Robots rule!Birdhillbilly (talk) 22:47, 31 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Nothing has changed since you last added them, why did you re-add them? Murry1975 (talk) 22:51, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Murry. I left a talk message above (20:21, 20 May 2014 (UTC)) stating why I might insert links to those pages. I was hoping you would set me straight on the matter. - as you can see I am no wizard at this! - However, since I got no reply in over a week, I decided to insert the links as mentioned in the above message. Why did you not reply to the above talk message? Now all I have for my troubles are warnings about being blocked and websites being blacklisted! You do understand that the only agenda I have is the furthering of knowledge regarding our waterways, which I am passionate about! Birdhillbilly (talk) 08:26, 1 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Sorry to disappoint you about me not getting back, I pop on and off this some days alot some days very little (or even lately not at all). The point of the matter is that the link is to a site that doesnt under scrutiny pass WP:RS or fails WP:ELNO. Also as far as I can make out you might be adding it for its own benefit. Murry1975 (talk) 09:02, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Murry. Ok - we'll agree to differ! Anyway, I won't post links to the offending site again!79.97.237.150 (talk) 09:04, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Couple of edits regarding Ireland and its territories
Demographics of atheism. I've been 'bold' and reverted your edit. I gave a reason why in the edit comment thing: we need to ensure the readers aren't confused, as the statistics specifically concern the Republic of Ireland alone, and not the whole of the island, which is also called Ireland. Also, the link pointed to a disambiguation page, rather than the page on Religion in the Republic of Ireland.

As for the Counties of Ireland, as six counties are a part of the United Kingdom, this article must also belong as part of that category. That the other counties are there too, the reverse argument could be made regarding the Republic of Ireland versus Ireland (the island): 26 of the counties don't belong to Ireland (the Republic). I'd be interested to hear if you have any suggestions, if you still protest at the idea of including the article in both the Republic and UK categories. One possible compromise might be to exclude Northern Ireland from the article all together. There is an article already dedicated to Counties of Northern Ireland anyway, I believe. We could then rename the article Counties of the Republic of Ireland.

I apologise, as I'm not aware of the previous conversation you've suggested. That's not to say it didn't happen - I'm just not aware of it!

I've enrolled here recently, so I'm not sure this will show up. I've not logged in. --75.176.181.60 (talk) 03:30, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi. You've undone my edits now three times. The first time, you offered rationale in your edit comment. I answered that by explaining here (and in my edit comment when I undid your edit) that there is clear ambiguity in this table: the territory which uses the name of the island (Republic of Ireland) is not the same as the territory which is the whole island. The table strongly suggested (before my edit) that the whole island follows the statistics listed. That is not the case. The statistics very definitely apply solely to the territory of the Republic of Ireland alone.

The wikilink also directed to a disambiguation page, rather than to the page relating to Religion in the Republic of Ireland.

The Manual of Style/Ireland-related articles page is, apparently, a set of guidelines. Here is what Wikipedia says about guidelines:

''Guidelines are sets of best practices that are supported by consensus. Editors should attempt to follow guidelines, though they are best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply.''

So these guidelines suggest:

''Use "Ireland" for the state except where the island of Ireland or Northern Ireland is being discussed in the same context. In such circumstances use "Republic of Ireland"''

So I've inadvertently followed the guidelines anyway: Northern Ireland is being discussed in the same context (as a part of the United Kingdom in this case).

I've also attempted to follow the Wikipedia guidelines for editing - a "bold --> discuss --> edit -->" cycle. However, so far, you've not followed that process yourself.

This will be my last edit to the article for a while. Of course, you will probably undo my edit again, but I have more important things to waste my time on! Following guidelines here on dispute resolution, I am taking a break from this specific article. Perhaps this will give you time to reflect and perhaps help me come to some kind of solution which we both feel will aid the Wikipedia site, and which we will both agree to.

I feel the article was misleading to readers, which is why I made the edit to begin with. Hopefully you can see your way to replying here in the next day or two? I will come back to the article at some point in the next few days probably. If my edits have been undone again, I will follow the guidelines and request an administrator to help out. Thanks.

--75.176.181.60 (talk) 00:56, 14 June 2014 (UTC)


 * The ONLY mention of Ireland on that page is the state, so NI isnt being mentioned at all, yet alone in the same context, its a table of states so NI wouldnt be on it anyhow. Also sign in while editing.
 * I also notice you seem to edit UK instead of Britain/Great Britain in articles, because its the states name, dito for Ireland so we use that. If you cant see the double standard of your edits. Now if you wish we could bring this up at IMOS. Murry1975 (talk) 06:06, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for replying. It's a table of states, yes - so we would need to be unambiguous, to let the readers know that it's the state of Ireland specifically that the table is referring to. Many people I have met in my life who are confused because they think the whole of the island is a single country. The Wikipedia exists to enlighten people on facts, so we should surely endeavour to bring to them the information that there are two sovereign states currently in Ireland. Again, I think common sense should prevail here, as the guidelines suggest. Northern Ireland is mentioned in the context of the UK. Its statistics (although I haven't checked) would include Northern Ireland.

I have no idea what you think my other edits regarding the UK and the name of an island have to do with this. If anything, I'm being completely consistent with those edits by referring to a specific political entity, rather than an island. For example, Ireland & Britain are islands; the Republic of Ireland and the UK are sovereign states.

Anyway, have we any common ground here regarding this dispute? Perhaps we could move on from there. --75.176.181.60 (talk) 04:59, 15 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Ireland is the name of the state. If you want to misinform people of its name go somewhere else, the guideline exist to help, you edits exist to push your point of view. There is no mention of NI in the artilce, and its a list of states, if you have not constructive to add stop adding it. The name of the specific polical entity is Ireland, if you have a problem with that, as you seem to have, contact http://www.oireachtas.ie and ask them to change it. Murry1975 (talk) 12:18, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

 * Martin, I was not attacking anyone, and I dont see myself as having selected enemies, I am a Trot, I make no bones of this, but when I am on here I try to use a level head and edit from neutral prospective. Yeah there are times when I read an article and think "minority hating nationalist is more appropriate", but I step back. I believe in society working for society, and to an extent wikipedia is such, its a society of editors using their varing abilities to contribute to an encyclopedia for society, it has rules, guidelines and formal processes like all societies. If you want to contribute please feel free to follow these, but like all societies should, break these and the society will remove you from it. Its not a democracy on here and several other things. Murry1975 (talk) 14:15, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Emmy Nominations : )
Hi - You have corrected Emmy nominations for PBS special several times and I am at a loss as to why. Is it the language? Please help so I can add the nominations. Thank you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Londra#Biography — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.153.223.253 (talk) 16:05, 19 June 2014 (UTC) Hi - I see I didn't sign last time. Trying again now. Can you please tell me why Emmy nominations were removed. Thank You Michael Londra — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shivne (talk • contribs) 22:56, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Sockpuppet
Hi, Ages ago I got a message that I think was from you about an investigation about me. Someone falsely accused me of using 2 accounts there has been no result so am removing it of my talk page. WARNER one --9999 (talk) 13:59, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes the result was you we were warned to log in. Murry1975 (talk) 14:03, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I never got told anything WARNER one --9999 (talk) 20:27, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * June 2014 (Warning: Editing while logged out) on your talkpage by King of Hearts. Murry1975 (talk) 20:30, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Simon Palmer
Hi Murry1975, I have just removed reference to my former membership of the National Union of Journalists. I am not longer a member and was told membership would affect my job prospects. As I currently applying for positions I needed the reference removed urgently. Apologies for doing this myself, but I could not get an independent third party to do it quickly enough. Regards, Simon.
 * That is a perfectly acceptible reason to edit your page, removing out of date/incorrect information that may have a negitive effect on yourself. BTW best of luck. Murry1975 (talk) 21:59, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Apology
I previously used to be WARNER one and have since reincarnated myself to be more friendly, useful, cooperative, less nationalistic and all together a better editor. I have identified you as one of the editors that I have wronged in the past which is why I urge you not to consider my previous actions in the future as I am completely different. I would like to be friends so we can hopefully collaborate in the future. If you understandably still don't want to colabarte and/or see my new side then that is 100% fine. Just please leave me a note here so I know for the future. THANKYOU! --Warner REBORN (talk) 17:27, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

National Day of Commemoration
Just pointing out that edits that go against the WP:IMOS does not allow you to WP:EDITWAR. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 06:44, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Bourne out of frustation CBW. Thanks for the polite reminder. Murry1975 (talk) 08:34, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd wait until the three days are up. If it continues after that then full might be done. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 08:45, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Deleted text from Leixlip: Notable people
Hi, I've restored Richard Guinness and Matt Goff to Leixlip's notable people.

1. Richard Guinness has been on the page for over a year. Why remove it now?

2. Matt Goff has his own page, and a local bridge is named after him. Why remove him but retain the likes of Enda Murphy who, to be fair, isn't going to have any landmarks named after them anytime soon?

Anyway, that's the reasoning. If you disagree, please answer questions posed rather than escalating to an edit-war.

Thanks.


 * Richard Guinness doesnt have an article (the standard for notability) and Matt Goff wasnt linked to an article, and BTW Byrne plays for Arsenal Ladies, not the PL team. Guinness should go. Murry1975 (talk) 19:17, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Agreed on Byrne; it was a pre-existing error that I did not catch. However, rather than delete the Matt Goff reference immediately it would have been polite of you to consult with me, or at least do a quick Google search of him. You were too quick to edit IMHO.


 * I agree that a Wikipedia page is a standard for notability, but this metric is imperfect. Wikipedia is not perfect. This is acutely true in the case of 18th century businessmen. Some pages are not yet written. Richard founded Guinness with his brother Arthur and, seeing as he lived on Main Street in Leixlip, likely played a role in the choice of Main St in Leixlip as the location of the original brewery. His page does not exist yet, but he is a notable person in Leixlip's history. I think you're playing your cards too quickly here... again.


 * I have no reason to "consult" with you, the evidence needs to be added by you. As for Richard Guinness, his page doesnt exist, so the idea that he is notable doesnt follow, your logic of not written yet,and imperfect metric, doesnt show how by consensus it should remain. Murry1975 (talk) 13:21, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

change to Ireland MOS
I agree that it isn't necessary to remind users that these MOS pages only apply to the English language wikipedia nevertheless I think it is useful for new editors to include this reminder. The justification for many of the policies on this page is that the policies only apply to the English language wikipedia and thus the policies are tilted to suit English language speakers. This is different from the practice in some parts of the Republic of Ireland where many documents try to be more even-handed between English and Irish speakers. I think it might even be useful to put a bannner accross the page confirming that: This Manual of Style page only applies to the English Language Wikipedia. For the Manual of Style of the Irish Language Wikipedia see Vicipéid:Lámhleabhar Stíle. filceolaire (talk) 18:10, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No, it is unneeded, this is En wiki, the page deals with Irish names and place names quite well, there is no crossover. The titles are designed for EL speakers, and editors of EN wiki, no one-else, not Irish wiki or Dutch wiki. Murry1975 (talk) 19:32, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Commonwealth of Ireland
I am just wondering why you undid the edits on the Irish Free State article and on the Dominion article. The republic of Ireland was the successor of the Commonwealth of Ireland. The Commonwealth of Ireland was when the constitution of Ireland was established and had loyalty to the crown.

Elevatorrailfan (talk) 18:12, 27 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Never existed. Murry1975 (talk) 18:28, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You have 240 deleted edits, and 228 live edits, and I notice you have created many deleted articles, maybe you should consider WP:AFC as a route for these. Murry1975 (talk) 18:33, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I see, that you have not tried to put forward any reason to keep the article, that alone speaks volumes. Murry1975 (talk) 11:35, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Never heard of this commonwealth either. Mabuska (talk) 12:54, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
for that SPI. Sorry I didn't have time to work on it. Dougweller (talk) 13:01, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

PCB Piezotroincs
I saw that you deleted my content from the PCB Piezotronics page for not having sources. Except I had about 4 or 5 sources in there so i'm not sure why it was deleted. Explain please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.103.142.238 (talk) 15:58, 15 August 2014 (UTC) Any Comments? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.103.142.238 (talk) 18:57, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Msg
Message for you on my Talk page -- HighKing ++ 20:34, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I sent an email. -- HighKing ++ 11:57, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

O'Dea
Hello Murray. I really thought my edits to the O'Dea article were effective and factual, so why revert? Fergananim (talk) 20:19, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Fergananim, the may have been factual, but using Irish on English wikipedia follows a guide, these edits where not in keeping with his. Also I found the edit summary "Fixed the plural forms in England and Gaeilge" was misleading, as this is not what was done. Murry1975 (talk) 20:25, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Re
Thanks. Hope all is well for you! I got a round of truly hilarious, unprovoked abuse come my way on here recently, so I pop in to check my watch-list for any more humorous wiki encounters... As for the land outside of Wiki, It's China, Cornwall and Devon. Regards, Somchai Sun (talk) 19:18, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
Yep that misspelling wasn't intentional! Dmcq (talk) 10:08, 9 September 2014 (UTC)


 * LOL it did make me laugh bud. Murry1975 (talk) 12:30, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Cathal Pendred
Hi there - I think you're looking for and. As far as I can see none of the article creators are known socks. GiantSnowman 19:58, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Undoing informational edits
Hi Murry1975,

understanding both the history of the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland I can see your views on Carl Frampton being "British" as Northern Ireland is technically part of the UK, however Frampton represents both communities, he does not walk to the ring in the union jack flag or the tricolour, he is Northern Irish, because he is from Northern Ireland. As for the rest of what I posted I put my references there, and my sources have been cited, everything I posted is true and I felt relevant to the article, why you deleted it I have no clue, as you cited zero sources. Merely voicing my opinion here, my edits were informational and unbiased, whereas yours seem to be biased towards claiming Frampton as a Brit, which he hasn't even done himself, in fact he even said himself he was proud to box for Ireland so actually, technically he boxes for Ireland, but factually he is Northern Irish. That is a fact, you can't dispute that. Anyways cheers, and please don't revert my edits, I am trying to edit without bias here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluelightning40 (talk • contribs) 03:33, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * No "fact" you added shows Northern Irish, the fact is he boxes under a British pro liecence, is considered as reason enough, here and . You state "he is Northern Irish, because he is from Northern Ireland", this simply is not true, it is vastly more complex than that and hours have been spent discussion the subject on here. The section added aswell is not fit for the lead, and aswell the daily mail is not a WP:RS. To confuse matters you add his manager calling him Irish into the lead. Now Irish describes anyone or thing from the island, it can also mean someone who holds Irish citizenship. Sources can be found for British here, and here for example. And ALL the fight tables across wikipedia use the union flag. I look forward to your accurately cited addition or corresponding discussion.
 * And for the record I am Irish, very much no basis for your "seem to be biased towards claiming Frampton as a Brit", I like his boxing style and could not give a hoot what his nationality is, but I edit from facts and by guidelines on here, so my nationality can be totally obscured by the facts I enter- which it should. So now that you ideas the fail WP:RS and WP:OR, as well as the fact that Norhern Irish can also contravene WP:NPOV I have removed it. Murry1975 (talk) 10:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

In this link you sent me here he is called Northern Irish. He is only called British by scott quigg. Frampton has never once called himself British — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluelightning40 (talk • contribs) 12:19, 11 September 2014 (UTC)


 * "The unbeaten British pair have been constantly linked with a domestic dust-up as their professional careers have continued to soar in the last few years. " The wordss of the beeb. Again you have used poor sources on a BLP I ask you this time to remove them yourself. Also you edits I have browsed over are mainly unencyclopedic POV fluff. Murry1975 (talk) 12:22, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Well the article calls him both Northern Irish and British, so it contradicts itself. Anyways, saying he is Irish upsets the loyalist community, and calling him British upsets the republican community, so seeing as how Frampton is himself a symbol of neutrality, I think Northern Irish is best suited for him, seeing as how he is from Northern Ireland. I have moved the edit I made on the quote from McGuigan calling him Irish as you are right, placed there it contradicts and can confuse a reader. We can compromise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluelightning40 (talk • contribs) 18:26, 13 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Bluelightning40 it doesnt matter what either you or I think, he is the British title holder and omitting that from the lead is unencyclopdic. Just as using an unreliable source, which btw can be removed as a BLP violation, he is neutral so he married a catholic? WTF? When is that a condition of nuerality? Its what is normal in every free society, marry who you choose. It would be biased if he refused on religious grounds but it does not make a point of neutrality.
 * Speaking of BLP violations, "implying" that someone is an Irish republican or adding incorrect inforamtion on purpose are violations, these will get you blocked if they are repeated and kept up.
 * Also sign your comments on talkpages with ~ thanks. Murry1975 (talk) 15:15, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, Murray1975, the thing is in Northern Ireland there tends to be a division between the catholics and protestants, the catholics see themselves as Irish republicans, and the protestants tend to be seen as British loyalists, so very rarely does a catholic marry a protestant as they don't get along well. And in addition to wearing pure white or pure black on his shorts, frampton does NOT wear the tricolor or the union jack, so he has become a symbol of neutrality to the north. And eammon O'kane is from a republican area in northern ireland, and he wears the rosary on his way into the ring, so he would see himself as Irish. Frampton however represents neither side. That is one of the things that makes him special. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluelightning40 (talk • contribs) 16:03, 14 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Are you really failing to understand sourcing? You cant use a tabloid as a sand alone source in a BLP. What you have typed above is know as original research. And again his marraige doesnt show neutrality. Murry1975 (talk) 16:10, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Tower Hamlets college
Hi...we're wondering who you are and if you worked at the college previously perhaps?

How can we come to an arrangement to update the page that meets both sides needs amicably?

Many thanks Big Al THC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.8.28.121 (talk) 15:52, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

September 2014
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I'm not personally attacking anyone. There is a user who thinks he, and only he, can edit certain pages; someone who is constantly reverting edits for no reason. There is no hard and fast rule on "time stamps" as long as they have the correct date. He is constantly reverting timestamps even though they have the correct dates. Plenty of people have had problems with your trolling and the trolling of this user and your bullying and harassment of other users. I've already said I don't want contact with you - as there are plenty of other moderators who can engage in discussion about this. Keep up the harassment and see where it gets you. Your IP is already on file and police already know your name anyways. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.158.80 (talk) 16:07, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, this is where this ends. Your treats are pointless, my IP as a registrared user is unknown by you. And it is you who have slandered famous people on here, Eamon Dunphy, springs to mind and you called Henry a nigger, so if the police do call around I am sure a couple of famous people wonder why you have got away with this muppetry would be far worse than any precieved injustice on your part. Stick to the way we edit on here or go away. Your choice. Murry1975 (talk) 20:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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Derry
Hi. I noticed that you reverted my edit (adding the IPA for the received pronunciation of Derry and Londonderry) and summarized it as "test?". Why was this reverted? Sotakeit (talk) 11:39, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I saw the large white space, and presumed you made a mistake, or were testing your edit. I see know that you add the British IPA standard. As the artticle is under a 1RR you shouldnt revert, just in case, so I will. Sorry. Murry1975 (talk) 11:49, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah! Not to worry. Thanks :) Sotakeit (talk) 12:06, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

List of cities with defensive walls
Hi Murry1985, Can you explain how you think my edit is not in keeping with IMOS? To me Ireland and Northern Ireland are mentioned in the same context. thanks. Dubs boy (talk) 13:23, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Mitchell St. vs Parnell St.
Hi Murray1975, You've now twice reverted an edit I made to Clonmel relating to an image of a street which is mislabeled, despite the fact that I provided evidence (https://www.google.ie/maps/@52.3532316,-7.7004521,3a,75y,251.92h,80.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sAYPxBh8GXNndPeeuFX3bCg!2e0) to show that my edit was correct. I happen to have lived in Clonmel for my entire life and unless the street was renamed yesterday and all of the maps are wrong, I can confidently say that the image is of Mitchell Street, and not Parnell St. which adjoins to it. Mitchell St. is locally known for being a pedestrianised street as you can see in the image. Parnell St. is not pedestrianised. It is blatantly obvious to anyone who has lived in Clonmel that it is Mitchell St. and not Parnell St.

Here is a StreetView image which actually shows the street sign: https://www.google.ie/maps/@52.3533044,-7.6999538,3a,75y,284.54h,84.49t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sOV00TndDuwWrBOWqovL1GQ!2e0

I won't edit the page again for fear of getting wrongfully banned over something so trivial, but I hope you'll reconsider your erroneous reversion...

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Hull
caluam jahraldo-martin is not in Hull City's squad http://www.hullcitytigers.com/team/ here is the official team squad list... why then therefore are you and others constantly adding his name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.248.212 (talk) 17:13, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
 * You are confusing your view of what the list is and the consensus view of what the list is. There are guidlines on here and you seem to not have a fundemental grasp of them, judging by your edits. Be polite, use WP:MOS when doing basic edits (like starting a ew section, and signing your comments), assume that everything is done from a veiw of improving the encyclopedia. You have lready once been blocked, for the very same edit. Murry1975 (talk) 17:25, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

You have the official club list why is that not suitable as being the truth? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.248.212 (talk) 17:38, 12 October 2014 (UTC)


 * The truth? Murry1975 (talk) 17:55, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Let's do it in baby steps; as you are clearly not understanding this. Can you see Caluam Jahraldo-Martin's name on the official Hull City squad list as featured on the official web site; i.e the definitive website, i.e the truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.248.212 (talk) 21:32, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

No answer then? Is that because I am right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.248.212 (talk) 08:02, 14 October 2014 (UTC)


 * You havent read a single thing anyone has said to you on here. Lets do this in baby steps, if you cant folow guidelines go play in the sandbox until so you can learn you can play with the others. Murry1975 (talk) 07:43, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

can you show the evidence where caluam jahraldo-martin is listed in the Hull City squad? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.248.212 (talk) 07:38, 17 October 2014 (UTC) Where is the proof re Jahrado-Martin...? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.248.212 (talk) 15:48, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

still waiting for the proof re caluam jahraldo-martin... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.248.212 (talk) 08:45, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Valenciacf.com
Indeed, the site is Spanish. But this page is? No, and this "in English" looks dumb (no offense, surely, not meaning that you're dumb or something like that). Think about this: we are in an English WP, and generally the links are Enlgish, as the link pointed in André Gomes is too.

Cheers, happy editing. MYS  77  ✉ 21:14, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Account...
I much appreciate the vote of confidence, but in short, "been there, done that"! 79.97.71.180 (talk) 16:26, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

ip and new user BITING
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 * You have a COI. As an IP or an editor you have a COI. I am not biting, I have pointed out your COI multiple times. Pointing out and revert COI promo/unsourced edits are not biting. Murry1975 (talk) 18:07, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

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Carl Frampton
so what should we do over the edit warning regarding his nationality ? Cement the consensus with RFC or Third Opinon? otherwise I fear this will end up in lamest edit wars Avono (talk) 21:54, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Map
Murry, you seem to have got hold of the wrong end of the stick regarding my edits of Manchester derby: I wasn't trying to suggest that Old Trafford is within the boundaries of the City of Manchester but rather that the map shows those boundaries, with the ground clearly outside them, rather than Greater Manchester as a whole which would include Bolton, Wigan etc. Haldraper (talk) 14:17, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * So your saying its a map of  the city, because it doesnt have the rest of GM. But look at your logic, it cant be a map of the city because it shows Trafford.... Murry1975 (talk) 14:21, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It is a map of the City of Manchester. If it was a map of Greater Manchester, it would include the whole of Greater Manchester. It's just a map of Manchester that includes bits of GM. – PeeJay 19:00, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * "It's just a map of Manchester that includes bits of GM" is a bit awkward to use in a caption..as per this edit it seems fine. Murry1975 (talk) 19:05, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Query regarding UK and Irish singles charts
Hi Murry1975,

Do record sales, downloads and audio streams in Northern Ireland count towards both the UK and Irish singles charts?

I ask this following an edit you made to List of Irish Singles Chart Christmas number ones back in May.

Regards, Bluebird207 (talk) 14:43, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * No they dont. My edit in may didnt imply they did. A WP:IRE-IRL edit. Murry1975 (talk) 14:54, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, OK. Just curious.


 * And in any case, I'm not the biggest follower of either chart.


 * Regards, Bluebird207 (talk) 15:21, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes there is only some good music out there now, oh the days.. Murry1975 (talk) 15:23, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Emmet Dalton reversed edits
Hi Murry1975, I am baffled by rv.s on 14 Dec. of my 24 Nov. edits without comment. Elsewhere similar edits have not been reved. Fact is Dalton like most other voluntary recruits, were not commissioned into the regular British Army but certainly in Ireland joined Irish regiments of the temporary New British Service Army. Why is it a problem with being clear about this? His image does not suffer in any way. Implying he was in the Regular British Army (=British military) may appear to enhance his image, but it is technically incorrect and misleading. I intend to re-enter my edits. Should there be relevant objections, please let's discuss them on the talk page. Thank you. Osioni (talk) 19:35, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
 * There were edit summaries used, WP:EASTEREGG. Murry1975 (talk) 16:09, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
 * OK thanks, got it, I did not recognize the term first time. Regarding the very unspecific term "British military", the term "British New Army" (= i.e. link Kitchener's Army)" is both clearer and correct in the case of the National Volunteers, which I propose using instead. Osioni (talk) 19:56, 27 December 2014 (UTC)