User talk:Musco1976

February 2023
 Your account has been indefinitely blocked from editing because of the following problems: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business, organisation, group, or web site, which is against the username policy.

You may request a change of username and unblock if you intend to make useful contributions instead of promoting your business or organization. To do this, first search Special:CentralAuth for available usernames that comply with the username policy. Once you have found an acceptable username, post the text  at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with your reasons to be unblocked. In your reasons, you must: Appeals: If, after reviewing the guide to appealing blocks, you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal it by adding the text  at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your reason here" with the reasons you believe the block was an error, and publish the page. Cullen328 (talk) 22:34, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Disclose any compensation you may receive for your contributions in accordance with the paid-contribution disclosure requirement.
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.


 * Sorry I have never worked with Wikipedia and am unfamiliar with how this works. So if a company wants to create a Wikipedia page, that page cannot be written by an employee of that company? Who is allowed to write/edit/maintain content for a company's Wikipedia page? The purpose of my editing was to fix the content which had been flagged for being promotional and making it strictly informational. Any guidance on how to best move forward would be appreciated. Musco1976 (talk) 23:18, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * You are confused. There aren't "company Wikipedia pages". There are articles about notable companies, written by people without a conflict of interest, based on what reliable sources (WP:RS) say about that company. This is a critical distinction. For example, I don't edit the article discussing the company I work(ed) at. For example, we expect Microsoft employees not to edit Microsoft. Most certainly, that article isn't maintained by Microsoft. If you want to promote your company, which is a perfectly reasonable thing for you to want to do, you should use your own website or social media to do so, not this encyclopedia. If this is your only goal here, I'm afraid this is the end of the line. If you wish to write about other subject areas, you should convince us you have read, thoroughly understood, and will comply with WP:COI and WP:PROMO, understand and can explain to us why your editing was inappropriate, and tell us what you plan to do differently going forward. It's perfectly reasonable for you not to want to bother. You probably expected you could control the article on your company, as this is how almost all other websites work. But it's not how Wikipedia works. --Yamla (talk) 23:25, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, I used a few other pages that seem to focus on large companies as a reference, such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Deere and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philips, whose page structure and content don't seem all that different in nature from how I went about editing this one, which was to take an encyclopedic approach to informing readers of the company's history and products, citing reliable external sources, without being promotional or sounding like an advertisement. So to be clear, the distinction is that the ones I used as a reference were not written by anyone associated with those companies? Musco1976 (talk) 23:52, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes. That and they used less promotional wording. The specific policies here are WP:COI and WP:PROMO. I want to be clear, both are critically important here. --Yamla (talk) 23:55, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok. Would it be possible to be provided with an example of wording from this article that is too promotional? I feel like it was presented in a factual, informational manner but again I'm not familiar with the site's standards. Thank you. Musco1976 (talk) 00:07, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Frankly, no. If this is your only goal here, you aren't going to be unblocked, so there's no point. Please, please take the time to read the policies and guidelines I and others have linked you to. --Yamla (talk) 00:11, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for all the clarification. Musco1976 (talk) 00:24, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

As you work at the company you have a conflict of interest meaning you mustn't edit the article directly, any changes you would like to be made would need to be requested on the articles talk page, and provided that none of the requested edits are promotional then a 3rd party uninvolved editor would be able to make those changes. If you can refrain from making any promotional edits and editing any areas where you'd have a conflict of interest then you would stand a better chance of being unblocked. -- StarryNightSky11   ☎  01:51, 14 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the input. Musco1976 (talk) 13:01, 14 February 2023 (UTC)