User talk:MusiCitizen/Archive 2

User talk:MusiCitizen – 2005 Archive

Images
Hi. I noticed that the images you uploaded for the Dave Concepción have been tagged as "unverified" since April. If you could please add info on sources and copyright status to the image description pages it would be appreciated, thanks. Handy references for Wikipedia image use policy and tagging images: Images, Image copyright tags. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 01:24, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Belated New Year greetings
Thanks for your New Year's message. Same back at you. I've been away from Wikipedia for a couple of months, but am now thinking of making a return; kind of tentative, let's see what happens, see if I can take the heat. Best, –Hajor 00:27, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Friendly Chat
How you doing, my friend? Just wanted you to know that my son and his wife are taking me to New York this summer to see a Yankees game and then we're heading for Cooperstown. After that we'll go to Boston to see the Sox Play and then to Philly. Men, the last time I was in New York (My birth place) was in 1969, when I was sent to Nam. Well, I just wanted to share this with a friend and who better than someone like you who likes baseball. Take care. Tony the Marine

Norm Zauchin
Hi! I've got a question about Norm Zauchin. I got into a miniature pissing match with RickK yesterday when I deleted Norm's birth from the 1929 page. While I know that there's no formal policy about birth and death days, the overall notion I've always had about the year pages in general was that they were supposed to list the big moments of a given year (in the case of 1929, things like the St. Valentine's Day Massacre, the Stock Market crash, and so forth). Similarly, the births and deaths listed would be ones like Grace Kelly, Martin Luther King, Jr., Anne Frank, and Audrey Hepburn. So when I checked out the article on Norm Zauchin (nice article, by the way), it seemed to me that he didn't quite live up to the notability level of the other 1929 folks. In fact, to be frank, it seemed to me that he wasn't even the most famous "Boston Red Sox and Washington Senators player from the 1950s" born in November of 1929.

Anyway, I really don't want to drag you into any kind of disagreement I'm having with a third party (although we both seem to have steered scrupulously clear of each other today, which is probably for the best), and I do want to reiterate that I like the Norm Zauchin article (he won a bear? What did they think he would do with it?), but I was just wondering about why you added him to the 1929 page. Just a little curious, that's all.

By the way, it took me a moment when I saw your name on the Norm Zauchin Edit History, but I finally figured out where else I had seen it recently. Of course, those weren't the only times our edit paths have crossed. Which also reminds me that I've really been meaning to work on the Pumpsie Green and Choo Choo Coleman articles (Cripes! Holy Red link, Batman! There's no Choo Choo Coleman article? Not even under his never-used real name of Clarence Coleman? Nope. Wow. Damn!). Did you know that Pumpsie Green once tried to defect to Israel from the Red Sox, along with Gene Conley? --Ray Radlein 06:27, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)

Expos/Nationals debate
There is a major debate going on, and I wondered if you might want to chime in. The debate involves how to deal with franchise moves in baseball. The question is whether Montréal Expos should be its own article or if it should redirect to Washington Nationals. All other instances of franchise moves in MLB redirect the old team name to the new team name, and the history of the franchise is covered within the new team name (for MLB, NBA and NFL examples, see here. Some people are confused and think the Expos and the Nats are different teams. Some people don't want to upset Canadian readers.

Indeed, the Washington Nationals are not a new team - the Montreal Expos franchise has moved to Washington, and the old franchise name should redirect to the new franchise name, just like the 20+ instances of this occuring in Wikipedia. For example, Brooklyn Dodger history resides in the Los Angeles Dodgers article. New York Giants history, including the Shot Heard 'Round the World, resides in the San Francisco Giants article.

If you have the time, maybe you could chime in on the conversation there, Votes for deletion/Montréal Expos. Kingturtle 17:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Syntax on day articles
Hi Musi,

You recently made some edits to some day-articles that changed the syntax for people born in the same year. The syntax you chose is not the agreed upon syntax for such instances. The agreed upon syntax is:


 * 1911 - person A
 * 1911 - person B

See WikiProject Days of the year for examples, and visit WikiProject Days of the year if you want to discuss the matter further.

Keep up the good work, Kingturtle 15:34, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank You For Your Support
Hey my friend, I would like to thank you for your support and kind words on the article Military history of Puerto Rico. Remember that I once told you that this summer I was going east with my son to see a Yankees game and then to Boston to see the Red Sox? Well, my plans have been changed for next year (darn!). Take care buddy, Tony the Marine
 * I would like to thank all of the Wikipedians who supported and/or contributed to the article Military history of Puerto Rico. Because of Wikipedians like yourself, this article was able to make featured article status. It was my goal to celebrate my first year in Wikipedia with a featured article and you all made it possible.  Thank you once again Tony the Marine

Friendly Chat
Hi, I just thought that I would let you know that Linuxbeak has nominated me for adminship. I would like to invite you to participate at WP:RFA if you wish to do so. Thank you and take care Tony the Marine

Baseball portal
Hello. Some of us, including me and Googie man, have been discussing the creation of a Baseball portal (see Wikiportal). Would you be interested in helping out on this? Danny 23:10, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

How you doing?
I.m going to look into the baseball players that you mentioned. You know, I would also like to find out something about the fathers of Reggie Jackson and Orlando Cepeda, who were also ball players.

I want to share with you something that is amusing and that has become a part of Puerto Rican baseball lore. The town of Guayama in Puerto Rico is known as "La Cuidad de Los Brujos" and therefore, its citizens are also known as Los Brujos de Guayama. As a matter of fact the towns Basketball franchise is called Los Brujos and the famous Spanish singer Julio Iglesia, once said that he also visited the town of Guayama where his grandmother was born and therefore he was a brujo. All I mylife I taught that the name was related to people practicing witchcraft but, recently I found out the truth. When baseball first arrived in Puerto Rico, the town of Guayama had one of the first franchises. The best player in the team was a youngman by the name of Moncho, whose father practiced witchcraft. Moncho became known as "Moncho el Brujo". Whenever Moncho came to bat, the fans would go crazy and light up candles and shake witchcraft related items to intimidate the other team. Ever since then the town adopted the nickname of "Los Brujos". Isn't it interesting how baseball can even have its efect on a towns name?

Don't forget I've been nominated for adminship. If you want you can vote for me here: WP:RFA,  Hasta pronto mi gran amigo, Tony the Marine


 * Hi. We have set up the portal at Wikiportal/Baseball. Your input and suggestions would be great! Danny 23:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)


 * There is now a section called "Today in baseball." It would be great if you could fill it in a little. Danny 13:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)


 * It looks great. Do you have any ideas for other topics we can add to the page? Danny 23:30, 29 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Looks great! Now we just gotta fill in the blue. ;-) Danny 22:41, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Your Request
Hey my good friend, thanks for your congrats. I've been a little busy but, I finally wrote the stubs on Millan, Arroyo, Pagan and Pizarro as 7you requested. Look them over and do your thing. Happy editing Marine 69-71 22:10, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

All-star categories
Hi - I don't know if you noticed, but a relatively new user attempting to follow the example of the all-star by year categories started creating similar categories for nfl pro-bowl players. These categories were nominated for deletion at categories for deletion and summarily deleted (the discussion is archived here). You have clearly spent a considerable amount of time creating and populating the all-star by year categories, but can you let me know what you might think about converting these to lists or perhaps articles about each all-star game? I actually think a per-year list or per-year article about each game is a better way to organize this information (can include much more content than the category, and avoids the "category clutter" of the current mechanism), with links to these lists or articles from each player (perhaps in a standard "all star appearances" section). One reason to do this is to avoid similar CFD situations. Another response might be to create all-star game by year categories for all sports, and vigorously defend them if they end up on CFD. In any event, please think about this and let me know what you think. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:42, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

'''I'll be away from Wikipedia for a week, so hopefully in the next few days, I will have everything back on track. Cheers, MusiCitizen 03:14, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)'''

Lots of edits, not an admin
Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. If you're at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in this list? I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list, although there is certainly no guarantee anyone will ever look at it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 13:50, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Safely reaching base
Hi there. You do a lot for baseball, so I'd like to ask you to take a look at 8 ways to safely reach base, its talk page, and its VfD nomination. Thank you. &#8594;Vik Reykja 03:55, 26 July 2005 (UTC)


 * August – None

Active/Current roster
Hello, Is it really an Active roster if it includes the disable players, too? --CrazyTalk 22:11, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

Year in baseball
Hello, We were going to be using the links to the years on the baseball pages as the " in baseball" links that you have been working on/creating. I was not sure if you were currently working on pre-1970 links so I just wanted to touch base with you. What I was going to do create stubs for the pre-1970 years so the links would not be red. I was probably just going to cut and paste what was on the baseball section of the " in sports" link for now. It will probably be month or so before I start doing that, but I just wanted to give you a head's up. As far as the content of each page, if you do not mind, I was going to leave that up to you or someone else who would be interested. Let me know if you mind, have a good one!--CrazyTalk 19:36, 18 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Hello,
 * I have been working up some infoboxes for baseball, and I came up with one for you. Check out 1971 and let me know what you think.--CrazyTalk 01:56, 25 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I like the standings you put on there. I added a link on the Major League Baseball page for the final standings.  Eventually, the annual league leaders should go on there, too.  If I ever get around to it, I will stick the Japanese final standing on there, too.  If you want/need help with some of this, you should post a "help wanted" sign on the Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Baseball page, divy up the years and see if anyone can help out.  Keep it up, have a good one!--CrazyTalk 22:02, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Final standings tables
Hi there—I like the postseason addition. I think the standings table looked better before, though, without the GB column; a little less cluttered and scrunched together. What if we keep the table simple with only the most basic stats, and then have a link to someplace where the user can find all the detailed stats for the season? What do you think? —Cleared as filed. 00:55, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Canaries and some other birds
Jawohl. I added the point that the team was shown as "Lord Baltimore" in the standings, but the list as presented is just not quite satisfactory. There is a tendency by modern writers to try to make "Lord Baltimores" be the team nickname. I was pretty sure that was untrue, but I hadn't heard the "Canaries" story before. I should have questioned before reverting. So solly. Meanwhile, someone, sometime needs to do a more thorough review of pre-1900 "formal" names vs. nicknames. I get a little tired of having to point out that the primary New York City team was called simply "Mutual", not "The New York Mutuals". Maybe nobody except the two of us care about this issue. d:( Wahkeenah 16:57, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Another way to put it would be... Formal names:
 * Boston
 * Lord Baltimore
 * Mutual

Plural references:
 * The Bostons
 * The Lord Baltimores
 * The Mutuals

Nicknames:
 * The Red Stockings
 * The Canaries
 * The Green Stockings

and so on. Wahkeenah 16:57, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Images
A number of images you uploaded are of doubtful copyright clearance.

Please review those images you have uploaded and clarify the copyright situation for them where possible. A project is underway to delete unfree images and many of your images may be deleted unless you do this. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 21:04, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Days in Baseball
This might be a little extreme. Just a heads up that it might get Vfd'd. Job  E  6   01:54, 14 October 2005 (UTC)


 * November – None

New York Mets roster cleanup
Hi. What sort of cleanup were you looking for in New York Mets roster? I was planning on changing to the 40-man roster format that other team roster pages have. You have other changes in mind? wknight94 15:37, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I like the look of Pittsburgh Pirates roster and Boston Red Sox roster. There's a count for each position and the roster is rearranged to show the entire 40-man, not just 25, right? And there's a heading for the rosters too.  Fine by me.  Is this something that some committee or project has approved?  wknight94 16:17, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Hey. On a related topic what about the New York Yankees roster? Can you add some guidance to what changes you want to the talk page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackalsclaw (talk • contribs)

Years in baseball
Since we seem to be the main people working on getting these started/formatted, I thought I'd bring up a few points regarding the best format. A major issue, I think, is page size - the 2005 in baseball article is almost 100K (about three times the recommended page size), and doesn't even include any births yet (for obvious reasons). Much of the content there is probably unnecessary, especially the long details under events - I think it's useful to include the one or two hundred occurrences of the year, each covered in one or two sentences; the rest of the details can best go on other pages for the people or events involved. Among the things that should be included would be no-hitters, hitting for the cycle, and other major batting and pitching accomplishments, as well as various records that are set. Among the things which I think can be dropped are trades and contract news (except the most notable handful in any year), as well as day-to-day highlights such as "player X had 2 home runs and 5 RBI in the Pirates' win over the Mets." The graphics for the standings take up a substantial amount of page space, and allowances can be made for that.

Under the section for births, I notice that you've been formatting these with a more graphical style (with bulleted dates under each month, and position notations); since that tends to take up more page space, I think a simpler style is preferable, and allows for more info elsewhere. Just including the dates and names for births is probably sufficient, considering that this section is about events which weren't noted at the time.

As for links to other pages, I've been deleting those for basic terms such as home run, run batted in, second baseman, and so forth; I think we can proceed on the presumption that anyone reading one of these pages has a working knowledge of how the game is played, so linking to common statistical terms and positions is unnecessary. Names should almost always be linked (at least the first time they appear), and dates should always be linked; team names should be linked where they are most important, and also pages for events and any non-baseball topics.

I'll think about any other general guidelines, but let me know your opinion regarding all of this. MisfitToys 23:21, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

San Francisco Giants roster cleanup
Sorry, but I can't see what exactly needs to be cleaned up. A little clarification? ςפקιДИτς ☺ ☻ 22:55, 17 December 2005 (UTC)


 * ThanksςפקιДИτς ☺ ☻ 16:36, 18 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Just in case you're wondering, I cleaned up the page and removed the tag. ςפקιДИτς ☺ ☻ 06:17, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Feliz Navidad
O.K. MusiCitizen, so you don't believe in Santa, but I still want to wish you and your loved ones all the happiness in the world and the best new year ever. Your friend, Tony the Marine 04:21, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Help
Hi, I uploaded an image of Ari Meyers within the the accordance established by Wikipedia (source and licence) and someone put it up for deletion because "it is unencyclopedic". The image is of good taste and just because it is a wallpaper image I don't think it should be deleted. Please view and if you can, express your opinion. Images and media for deletion/2005 December 24 Thank you, Tony the Marine 04:21, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Hi. I, SoothingR would like to commend you on your edits pertaining to the article December 25 in baseball. Edits like that give Wikipedia the christmas spirit which we need so much. Especially today.

Thanks for your peaceful and useful contributions, and I wish you a merry christmas - and ofcourse - a happy new year.

Best wishes, SoothingR(pour) 14:03, 25 December 2005 (UTC)



Happy New Year
¡Feliz Año Nuevo! I wish you all the happiness in the world and remember, if an injustice is ever committed against you or one of your articles, I will always be by your side. Your friend Tony the Marine

Image copyright problem
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If you have any questions, just leave a message on my talk page. Thanks again. --wknight94 20:59, 31 December 2005 (UTC)