User talk:MusikAnimal/Archive 25

Popups in pageview tool
Thanks for the new pageview tool. I found a couple of issues that you might be able to fix. a) The articles are almost impossible to remove on small mobile views (cannot click on the x, would be nice to be able to use backspace/delete). b) the popups seem to be based on a threshold distance (i have not seen the code but guessing based on the appearance of multiple popups when there are a large number of points near the mouse) - it would be better to show a single popup for the point closest to the mouse. - Minor glitches in otherwise excellent work. Shyamal (talk) 03:14, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Mobile-friendliness is probably something I can improve, but I worry about the popups. I'm using a JavaScript library to create them, and it seems it has it's own set of issues. There are various options I can play around with to see if the popup overlapping can be reduced. I've found you can browse totals by hovering over the dates at the bottom of the chart, it may be easier to do it that way. Also try it on your mobile device by tapping on the dates and moving your finger left/right, that should work quite well. Thanks for the feedback, and glad your enjoying it! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  05:38, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for https://tools.wmflabs.org/musikanimal/pageviews updates, but redirects.
Hey, one of the serious problems with https://tools.wmflabs.org/musikanimal/pageviews, is that it doesn't allow you to check the page views of redirects in the search. You can force it with a link in the url: https://tools.wmflabs.org/musikanimal/pageviews#start=2016-01-16&end=2016-02-04&lang=en&pages=Wikipedia:Research_help/Med. But the search interface, removes the redirect when doing the search, in favor of the main page, without aggregating those pageviews. Alot of articles are going to be severely underepresenting pageviews because of it. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 18:56, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, is there any chance you could add support for meta? We have been trying to get data on The Wikipedia Library/1lib1ref for 2 weeks now, but stats.grok is down. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 19:01, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * You should now be able to target redirects pages. Still working on full cross-wiki support &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:31, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Brilliant! Your a champ! I am in no particular rush with the cross-project support, just that I would reach out to the volunteer maintaining, now that there is one :) I would also suggest keeping an eye on: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120497, and offering to participate, mentor and/or mantain the tool. Thank you so much for all this! Your a real champ! Astinson (WMF) (talk) 19:53, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * My pleasure! The tool should work on all WMF wikis now (assuming they all have the pageview extension). E.g. for meta try &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  22:14, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I am close to smothering you with love as well (per User:MelanieN), I also owe you a beer. Thank you so much! Now that everything is all fixed like, I think there might be one more small feature to make this tool thoroughly surpass stats.grok.se: a sum of the pageviews represented for each of the search terms. This is fairly easy to do manually, but it would be a really nice to have already calculated in a statement like "Page X, had Y pageviews over Z# days." That should hold through most of the features needs, until the commtech one becomes robust (or you take over the world :P), Astinson (WMF) (talk) 23:01, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Cool! I should be able to do that. I'll also look into the "this article ranked N in traffic on en.wikipedia.org". Not sure where that data is coming from but surely it is public &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  23:04, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Quote:

Astinson (WMF): ...until the commtech one becomes robust (or you take over the world: P). MusikAnimal: Cool! I should be able to do that.


 * Wow! I had no idea who I was cozying up to. Can I help you take over the world? --MelanieN (talk) 01:14, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Lol! The world might be okay with me in control, but now that I've got MelanieN onboard I'm a little more confident :) By the way, totals for the provided date range are now shown. There's also the handy "latest" links. More features to come! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  01:29, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Just dropping by to say thanks for the awesome pageviews tool. I've missed it (i.e. the stats.grok.se version that I depended on previously) and the new one is wonderful. Keep on keeping on! Antandrus (talk) 04:02, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! It seems to be quite a hit &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  04:50, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Likewise, kudos, it must have been quite an undertaking, but well worth it! Best, Castncoot (talk) 04:57, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Just did a fast check but so far... kudos!!!!! Love the tool! And now a wish -> could you add a multilingual button? (I would love to see how many visits did "Barcelona" got in last month, regardless of the language). --Kippelboy (talk) 09:23, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Pageview tool
Why has the valuable ability to look at historic page views been removed from this tool? Also, less importantly, why has it been changed from a column graph to a less appropriate line graph? It was better as it was. --Epipelagic (talk) 09:25, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * (watching:) you can change the period in the top line, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:31, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * (dang:) I noticed that earlier and then forgot. Too old and too much vino. I withdraw my curmudgeon grizzles. --Epipelagic (talk) 10:07, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I used to see the Beethoven spike again, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:13, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Wow, that is a heavily viewed article EVERY day. Does it spike on his birthday like that every year? That is pretty cool. --MelanieN (talk) 20:47, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It was the google doodle on his day of baptism, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:17, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I've just added 5 more chart types. Hit "Change chart type" at the bottom-left and you can select bar chart. The tool will remember your preference. Personally I think the line chart is easier to read, and find it a sensible default. There are some visual kinks to knock out, as you'll notice with a bar chart over a wide date range. I'll work to improve this. Cheers &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  06:49, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually I think I just fixed the spacing issue with the bar chart &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  07:04, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That's excellent! Thank you very much. --Epipelagic (talk) 10:49, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Template:La
You made a change to la today that has resulted in the following difference between the old and new versions:
 * Old
 * New
 * New
 * New
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Compare this to pagelinks

Is the removal of bullets and extra space between the lines deliberate? -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 07:06, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks like that was a result of a merge. Going to guess it was not deliberate., maybe use the sandbox? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  07:27, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I haven't merged anything; I just added the merger template. I had no idea that this would happen and don't know how to fix it, aside from unhelpfully removing the template.  Any assistance would be appreciated.  Nyttend (talk) 13:30, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It appears to be something to do with the noinclude tags around the TfM notice. When the merge discussion is over all should be OK. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 13:54, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Need help from somebody who understands this stuff
Hi, MusikAnimal! Could I pick your brain a little? I need to evaluate an article for resubmission, and it is too technical for me to follow. (I advised the author to make at least the lead intelligible in plain English, and I think they tried, but it's still over my head.) I had deleted the article as a result of this discussion. Among other issues, there were no independent sources. After this request I userfied it, with some advice about sources and such. It is now at User:Mkbergman/UMBEL, and the author wants to know if it is ready to put back into mainspace. The author is a disclosed paid editor (CEO of the developer of this open-source subject.) I do see numerous outside sources in the article now, and they do seem to be actually about the subject. So my inclination is to restore it, and to add a note explaining that it is significantly different from the deleted version and not eligible for G4. But I'd like an opinion from somebody who understands this stuff. I'm not asking you to explain it to me (probably a hopeless case), just to let me know if the article makes sense, and if you think it might be accepted as an article this time around. Thanks for any input! --MelanieN (talk) 20:50, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Wow. I can see that this is somewhat related to computer science (more so information science), but honestly that's all I know either! I'm tempted to call it a bit too WP:TECHNICAL. The article goes to explain mappings to large databases like Wikipedia, in what I assume is some renders itself a knowledge base of sorts. If in a nutshell this product is a knowledge base, or linked data or what have you, we should say that in the first sentence. I think the lead should more or less be all layman's terms. For instance, what if I knew of a friend who worked for the organization and I wanted to learn more about it – simply on a high level. Unless I'm an information scientist I won't even gather that this is software as opposed to something that's just theoretical. That aside, I think there are sufficient sources, even though almost half of them are primary. Overall I think it's probably suitable for the mainspace, but unfortunately I can't give a firm answer :/ Sorry I couldn't be of more help! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  05:25, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm glad to know it wasn't just me! 0;-D I took a look at some of the other articles in this category, and I couldn't understand them either, so maybe it's just the nature of this particular beast. --MelanieN (talk) 15:15, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

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RevDel Request
Hi there, I was wondering if you could perform a RevDel on the following edits:, ? The edit contains a user's phone number and i'm pretty sure that's a privacy violation waiting to happen. RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:45, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Pageviews Analysis
Hello. Why 0 is ignored in Pageviews Analysis? 0 is also an indicator. Can you fix, please? :) — Green Zero   обг  18:51, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, there's a problem. The pageviews API provided by WMF does not distinguish zero pageviews from data that hasn't been loaded in the database yet. See here for more information. I think there might be a way to work around this... will get back to you. Thanks &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:50, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If I understand correctly... We can do next: day with no data take as like 0. This will work? — Green Zero   обг  10:26, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * GitHub issue at . I think we can treat any NULL values on the most recent day or two days as "data unavailable". Anything before that can safely be assumed as having an actual view count of zero. This should work &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:48, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you!!! Good job! [[File:Emoticon smile.svg]] --— Green Zero   обг  17:06, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Legal threat?
Thanks for the help with the revdel request earlier. Before I send this to ANI, I wanted your $.02 on this post here, specifically the edit summary:. Would that constitute a legal threat, or just barely skirt by? RickinBaltimore (talk) 19:15, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * No, this is a report of defamation which does not constitute a legal threat, as it by default has legal consideration. AN/I seems most appropriate, and I would probably refrain from restoring the content until the issue is resolved. Hope this helps &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:44, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I'm going to leave it as is, I just saw the edit and the "legal threat" jumped out at me. The link you provided explained it well, I appreciate it. RickinBaltimore (talk) 19:46, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello from 202.62.98.33
Hello MusikAnimal. I saw you some days ago undid the protection on the Boca Juniors page and now is protected against editing once more. I dont agree with its content and some comments as they are tendentious and are not relying on reliable sources. Is it possible to undo the protection once more?Thanks --202.62.98.33 (talk) 18:02, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Make a protected edit request. Click on "View source" then hit the big blue button. Hope this helps &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:04, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

toollabs: pageviews
Hi,

thank you for making statistics available, also analysis for mobile, bot etc.

However, I would like to ask for an improvement: With every call, at least after cache clearing, users need to contact cloudflare.com and pass details about this user with this IP and this browser profile, and which page he is interested in.

Please find a shield at cdnjs which is supposed to cover all your needs, as far as I can see, and access resources within our world only.

My script blocking service directed my attention towards this issue.

Greetings --PerfektesChaos (talk) 19:44, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Are you using pageviews? There shouldn't be any requests to resources not governed by WMF. The plugins, images, etc, are all served locally. This was not always the case, though, which is why I think you might somehow be using an old version? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:49, 10 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see.
 * Someone passed musikanimal/pageviews to me, which is hard to distinguish, but now attempts to redirect (still failing). Perhaps cloudflare.com has been accessed there some days ago.
 * Now Firefox console tells me: TypeError: sites.includes is not a function, application.js line 1 row 2572. Enjoy.
 * BTW: Is there something like an official documentation page?
 * I would like to learn which URL parameters will be supported on the long run.
 * Since grok.se is not well now, I would like to link your tool into  page informations.
 * And you deserve a profile page like de:WP:LT/CS.
 * I guess something from #start=2016-01-18&end=2016-02-06&project=de.wikipedia.org&pages=WP:REN
 * How do you plan to deal with redirect pages? I am very interested in redirects that no one needs and never been touched in www, but others might expect getting redirected from shortcut and the content page being analysed.
 * Best wishes --PerfektesChaos (talk) 20:55, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes it used to serve cloudflare assets, until T126151 was filed. I can create documentation for the URL, but for most people you could simply enter the info you need within the interface and copy/paste the URL. For action=info you'll just want to remove the datestamps (so it shows the most recent data) and replace Dog with pages=. I don't plan to drop support for any URL parameters. If they change the app will normalize them into the new format.Redirect pages should work, even when searching for them within the interface. For instance, try . I can look into a feature that automatically includes all redirects, if that's what you mean. Very good idea :) I don't know anything about the pages at de:Wikipedia:Technik/Labs/Tools, but feel free to create one for me :) Here on enwiki we have Web statistics tool, and I think that's it. Many thanks for the feedback! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:39, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Here we go: de:WP:LT/pageviews. Best wishes --PerfektesChaos (talk) 10:08, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * redirect issues
 * https://analytics.wmflabs.org/demo/pageview-api/ follows all redirects unconditionally.
 * All regular attempts over redirect contribute finally to the target page count.
 * Do-not-redirect is required to decide upon further support of shortcuts, possibly misspelled wording etc.
 * Another issue is adressing by curid (pageid), which is no dramatic change for API access, but permits relocation-save observation of pages in some cases (switching between redirect and content etc.).
 * I assumed that you started some data collection on 2015-10-01, no answers before that day, but being able to answer queries for longer periods. Any idea of future limitations? Six months, one year?
 * Thanks for creating that page on dewiki! First off, I'm guessing you didn't mean to link to, which is the old demo tool (not mine). I originally had my tool using opensearch, which returned redirects, but then I was convinced that the faster prefixsearch also returned redirects. Well, it does not. So I've changed it back to opensearch, and you should now be able to query for redirects. I'm not sure what you mean about the pageid. Could you explain? Do you want to search by page ID? Finally, the new pageviews API from WMF does not have data prior to October 2015. That is why it won't let you query for earlier than that. Moving forward there will be no restriction on a daterange, so long as it's after October 2015. I guess I need to create an FAQ, as this has been brought up numerous times. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:07, 12 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Regarding analytics.wmflabs.org – I just mentioned it since I was bothered that this fellow did not evaluate touching of redirect pages but always forwarded me to the target page and gave me those numbers I was not interested in.
 * Some people may need the usage of probably superfluous redirects, others may expect to get the figures of the target page.
 * pageid means that we use quite often pageids for administrative purposes, since they are not affected by renaming. If we know the pageid of a content page we need not care whether this content has moved some months later, and the old name doesn’t exist any longer or is a redirect now. API accepts both titles and pageids spec.
 * Some query type like &pages=Cat|Dog|#123456 may be used. Since a page name never starts with a # this would obviously point to pageid=123456.
 * Nice to learn that future evaluations might look a year back; grok.se has been limited to 90 days which is sufficient for most practical cases, but sometimes I am a bit curious and got no data.
 * BTW: You have replaced grok.se in our pageinfo tools today.
 * Have a nice weekend --PerfektesChaos (talk) 19:37, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the very valuable feedback! I think I can do most of what you've requested. In particular I really like supporting page IDs. Also you brought up a great point that not everyone will want redirects when using the autocomplete. I'd hate for someone to type out Barak Obama and think the page views are accurate, when really they wanted Barack Obama. I'm thinking I'll have options for "allow redirects", "exclude redirects", and "include all redirects". The first two correlate to when using the autocomplete search. The last one will make the autocomplete exclude redirects, but when you select a page the data shown will include that from all of its redirects. Fun stuff! Cheers &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  20:47, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Pageview Analysis: agent categories "Spider" and "User"
Hey Musiker, Thank you for the wonderful tool Pageview Analysis! At the German-speaking WP, we've had a similar one implemented to all pages made by -- I suppose -- a private user from Sweden, but it didn't work anymore. Anyway, used to it for a long time, I missed such a thing, and yours now is even better. My actual request would be as to know the definition of agent categories "Spider" and whether "User" means only registered users or simply every unique visitor (including IPs like myself). Thanks again, 2.242.244.157 (talk) 09:25, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Spiders are search engines like Google. You will see lots of hits from these, which is why we want the ability to exclude them from our results. Users include any human who views the page, editors and anonymous readers alike. Glad you are enjoying the tool :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:03, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Pageviews and adblockers
Hey, the new pageview tool looks great and is a pleasure to use. One question, though: Why does it require me to disable my adblocker to work? No ads seem to be served when I do, so I'm curious how the active adblocker interferes with the tool. Thanks! Antepenultimate (talk) 21:09, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Not a clue. It's actually the Wikimedia REST API that is causing this. I need to open a phab report, just haven't gotten around to it. Thanks for reminding me to add this to the FAQ! Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:23, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick reply - it's not really more than a momentary bother, but I'm glad it'll be looked in to. Thanks! Antepenultimate (talk) 21:36, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Grant Gustin
There have been reverts. Extend PC or upgrade to semi? --George Ho (talk) 04:01, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

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Music templates
Hi MusikAnimal. Things are humming along with my Sound/list work (I've recently finished with Puccini and am heading toward Z in the alphabet). I was just wondering if you know why the icons look messed up all of a sudden, on my laptop anyway. Here's an example:

Cheers.Anythingyouwant (talk) 02:35, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey ! Hope you are well. You mean the icon shown with listen? It looks OK to me, Chrome OSX &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  03:42, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * All is well here in Massachusetts, but cold. Brrrr!  Hope you are well.  On my laptop, when I look at this thing, I see a big black rectangle separating the title from the description.  It definiteley appears very different from how it always looked up until last week.  Same for all the other "listen" icons.  If it looks okay to you, then maybe my computer needs a software update or something.  On my iphone, it looks the same as always, though I cannot play ogg's on my iphone.  My laptop is an Asus, and it uses Windows 8.Anythingyouwant (talk) 04:52, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, I can imagine! We're suffering quite a bit here in New York ;) I would recommend posting WP:VPT about your issue. My guess is you're probably not the only one who's experiencing this &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  05:43, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Will do. A friend of mine is turning 100 today (Feb. 15) in Elmhurst, Long Island so I will be heading there today for her birthday.  Stay warm.Anythingyouwant (talk) 05:52, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

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Pageviews and Time on Site
I'm glad someone already gave you a barnstar for this. Superb job -especially the comparison of page visits. Is there any technical way that Time On Site could be averaged out and displayed? If so, it could be great way for editors to assess how effective an article is in keeping readers engaged in content (or alternatively trying to make unravel and make sense of the garbage!) Just a thought - keep up the great work! Parkywiki (talk) 16:19, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That'd be some very interesting data to see, but unfortunately is not available to us yet. The API is evolving, and I'm going to keep an eye on it add new features as they get it ironed out. Next up is the top 1000 viewed pages within a given timeframe. The API doesn't really do a good job of giving us this info but I think I know a workaround. Thanks for the feedback and kind words! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:33, 15 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I'll add my thanks. I put in a question on git-hub on old data, even though I'm not that comfortable using it. My short response to your response there is that I'd prefer good data to bad data, even if it causes me some temporary inconvenience.  Thanks again.  Smallbones( smalltalk ) 17:27, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Pageviewer not working
Hi, after getting nil results from the groke page viewer for how many weeks (no one bothers to tell people it's never going to work again), I tried yours. Tells me to disable my adblocker (whether disabled or not). Thx. Tony  (talk)  00:31, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * See above &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  02:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Pageviews down?
Hi Musik, this is probably my fault and not yours but the charts aren't appearing for me. Instead, I see "Chart not appearing? Please ensure you have all ad blockers disabled or have /pageviews/* whitelisted"—but my adblockers have the site whitelisted and are disabled, and I've tried it with four different browsers. Is there something else I need to disable? Thanks for your help here. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 00:28, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hmm, still not working? I should at least change the message in case the pageviews API (WMF-side) goes down, so that people don't think it's their ad blocker. Everything is working on my end. What about you ? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  02:29, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Ugh, I quickly tried in Firefox and did see that it didn't load. This probably was my fault. This is why I'm working to add tests, so I have more confidence new builds won't break anything. After seeing how popular this tool has become, I've tried to improve the implementation to make it more manageable. Somethings might have fallen through the cracks. Sorry &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  02:33, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I reverted back to the state prior to my overhaul. Should be good now, please confirm &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  02:35, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Now on Chrome for Mac (no adblocker) it seems to work.

On Safari for Mac (with adblocker), you get: Pageviews Analysis Dates Latest 10 20 30 60 90 days Project Platform Agent Pages Chart not appearing? Please ensure you have all ad blockers disabled or have /pageviews/* whitelisted.

10, 20 etc day buttons look live, but are dead. en.wikipedia.org is grayed. Agent seems to do nothing. Pages has a weird vertical box.

But it's unclear whether the platform or the adblocker is the problem. Tony  (talk)  04:04, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It's really not a problem. Thank you so much for coding and providing this service; I really appreciate it. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:37, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The issue you saw in Chrome was unrelated. The ad blocker is the problem. This is the WMF-side, nothing I can do right now. Sorry! And thank you for your kind words :) &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  04:38, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, MA. And I was about to post a kind word or two here as well. I like certain aspects of the new facility. Well done thus far. Yes, the WMF needs to weigh in here to help over the medium term. My best. Tony   (talk)  07:08, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * I've been slacking on the admin duties lately, so not sure what I did to deserve this, but thank you!! :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  05:25, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Baie dankie
That is thanks a lot in Afrikaans. I have put your Pageview Analysis on our history pages and everybody cheered. So: thanks Jcwf (talk) 02:10, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Awesome! Thank you! This project has been very rewarding :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:09, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

More on new pageviews interface
I can't seem to get anything before October, and in general it seems to have a mind of its own. It would be really great to be able to get an arbitrary date range.  E Eng  01:16, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * See the FAQ. Data before October via the WMF pageviews API is either nonexistent or unreliable. Sorry &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  02:41, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * "You will have to rely on other tools to view data older than this." Well, um, what other tools? For years this data was available by clicking Page view statistics on any page history page. Where's all that data and/or how do I get at it?  E Eng  02:45, 16 February 2016 (UTC) P.S. I do appreciate your efforts to improve things. P.P.S. A format suitable for direct pasting into Excel e.g. row-major, column-minor CSV would be appreciated.
 * stats.grok.se still provides historical data, I think. Not really my problem, I'm using the WMF-provided API, and we get what we get. I hear they are working to backfill old data, so hopefully that'll become a reality. So the CSV format I'm providing now is no good? I don't really do Excel, just presented the data in the way it was received. If you could quickly illustrate the more suitable format I'd be happy to implement it! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  02:54, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Just one thing about the date format ... presumably it's US format. Two issues ... first, everyone else uses a different format, typically ddmmyy, not mmddyy; second, using numbers only forces users to wonder which one it is. 05/03/2006 ... March or May? But I'm going on memories from when I could access the interface, a few weeks ago. I might have the format thing wrong. One solution is to explicitly write "ddmmyy" or "day–month–year", or some such, to clarify. Tony   (talk)  03:58, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * . Hi . As far as I know, on the English Wikipedia the only all numerical date format embraced is yyyy-mm-dd. Cheers!  20:51, 19 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Let me suggest that you add this to the interface page:
 * ''This interface provides data from October 2015 forward; for earlier data, try the old interface.


 * The following format is an almost universal lingua franca:
 * "Date","Page views"
 * "2015-03-01","123"
 * "2015-03-02","143"
 * ...and so on, where the lines are separated by, well, newlines. If you want to be really well-prepared, offer a second format in which the quotes are gone and the commas become tabs.  E Eng  04:01, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * here. Hi and MusikAnimal. On Bad Aibling, Bavaria, Germany using the new analysis tool I was only able to get data back to February 9, 2016 and I would like to be able to see data before the date of the tragic train wreck there. I was not able to see data going back to even October, 2015. The Bad Aibling page is still a focus article on the main page of the English Wikipedia. Ping me back. Cheers!   20:51, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Bad gateway
Hi MusikAnimal. Since you're the wo/man I thought I would report this to you directly: Bad gateway at "Edit count" link at the bottom of this page: Special:Contributions/H.dryad. Ping me back. Cheers! 20:34, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I think something's up with Tool Labs in general. Everything is going realllllllly slow &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  20:53, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Everything is down right now. They're working on it... I assume &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:03, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Should be good now! :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:19, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

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Sandbox and new article
I just created my first article, Nicolo Schiro, and everything is fine with the article itself. But when I looked at the revision history of the article, I saw that all of the revisions of my sandbox were included in the history of the article. I didn't realize that you had to create a new sandbox before creating a new article (or even know that it could be done.) I first started writing the Schiro article on 05 February 2016 but there are revision from all the way back to August 2015, where I'm learning to use Wikipedia and tests for potential edits to articles or talk pages, like here and here. I made an inquiry at the Teahouse, here, about whether the revision history prior can be deleted and there was no definite answer. There's nothing in those prior sandbox edits that would violate any policy. I checked the page on revision deletion and it was kind of ambiguous about whether my situation applies or not. You are listed as one of the admins who deal with revision deletion, and hopefully can provide guidance on this issue. Libertybison (talk) 21:42, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It is possible to do a history merge (or in this case, really a history split). This seems reasonable as those older revisions are unrelated and don't belong to that page. I will try to take care of this for you, merging the old revisions back to User:Libertybison/sandbox &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:45, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅! Moving forward you could create a dedicated page in your userspace for a draft, or if you are the only author of the draft, you can just copy/paste to the new location. If other people helped with the article before it was published their edits will need to be given attribution with a page move. A nifty way to start a userspace draft is to use the form at Help:Userspace draft. You could even add the form to your userpage, as I have done on mine. Finally, you could consider creating your drafts in the Draft namespace, which is a more collaborative area, so others might help you in authoring it. Up to you! Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:58, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Also congrats on your first article! :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:58, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello from Marksteven1996
Hello. iam marksteven1996. its my third try making the same article but it is always deleted. Can you help me because i really need to have a wiki page. I did'nt see anything wrong with my article. I saw many articles like this in wiki but you did'nt delete their article. Please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marksteven1996 (talk • contribs) 12:12, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Bug in pageviews
Hi. In pageviews if the name of page have an apostrophe - does not work transition to article. For example:. --— Green Zero   обг  16:05, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Good catch! I'll have a fix out with the next release. Thank you! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:10, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

This should now be fixed. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  23:13, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi protect
Could Anderson Varejão please be semi protected. He is involved in a reported sports transaction and lots of anons have been adding unsourced content and jumping the gun. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 05:12, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-08
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Recent changes
 * Phabricator has been upgraded.

Problems
 * There was no new MediaWiki version last week. Changes that were planned to happen last week will happen this week instead. This is because of a bug that made saving pages take longer time.

Changes this week
 * After February 23, you can use Wikidata for inter-language links on Wikiversity.

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interwiki for pageviewer?
Hi. Could you eventually add something to the pageviewer for directly reaching the statistic for the interwiki articles? --Itu (talk) 03:04, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I assume you mean show data for a given article in all languages? If so, this feature is coming! Going to estimate within a month or so, but can't say for sure &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  05:09, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Of course not just add the hits for all articles over all languages. I thought about just a link to the interwiki articles stats .. are you thinking about displaying more then one graph at once? Or splitting the bars into segments - thats an idea. --Itu (talk) 06:22, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #1—2016
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Among experienced editors, the visual editor's table editing is one of the most popular features. If you select the top of a column or the end of a row, you can quickly insert and remove columns and rows.

Now, you can also rearrange columns and rows. Click "Move before" or "Move after" to swap the column or row with its neighbor.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Japanese, Korean, Arabic, Indic, and Han scripts, and improving the single edit tab interface.

Recent changes
You can switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor after you start editing. This function is available to nearly all editors at most wikis except the Wiktionaries and Wikisources.

Many local feedback pages for the visual editor have been redirected to mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.

You can now re-arrange columns and rows in tables, as well as copying a row, column or any other selection of cells and pasting it in a new location.

The formula editor has two options: you can choose "Quick edit" to see and change only the LaTeX code, or "Edit" to use the full tool. The full tool offers immediate preview and an extensive list of symbols.

Future changes
The single edit tab project will combine the "" and "" tabs into a single "" tab. This is similar to the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398) Initially, the "" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as an account preference for logged-in editors, and as a cookie for logged-out users. Logged-in editors will have these options in the tab of Special:Preferences: The visual editor uses the same search engine as Special:Search to find links and files. This search will get better at detecting typos and spelling mistakes soon. These improvements to search will appear in the visual editor as well.
 * , and
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The visual editor will be offered to all editors at most "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. The developers would like to know how well the visual editor works in your language. They particularly want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect the following languages: Japanese, Korean, Urdu, Persian, Arabic, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Hindi, Bengali, Assamese, Thai, Aramaic and others.

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 * Can you read and type in Korean, Arabic, Japanese, Indic, or Han scripts? Language engineer David Chan needs help from people who often type in these languages. Please see the instructions at mw:VisualEditor/IME Testing if you can help. Report your results on wiki (Korean – Japanese – all languages).
 * Learn how to improve the "automagical" citoid referencing system in the visual editor, by creating Zotero translators for popular sources in your language! Join the Tech Talk about "Automated citations in Wikipedia: Citoid and the technology behind it" with Sebastian Karcher on 29 February 2016.

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Time for me to learn something new
Hello M. Today the Cliff Richard article showed up in the Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates. It looks like it has something to do with 's edit here. I am not sure which - if any - of the templates added are causing the article to show up in the cat. Rebbing please don't think that I am complaining because I am not. I have been working with this cat for almost a year (and M is one of the editors who helps me) and I haven't seen this configuration for these templates before so I am hoping to learn about them. I am also trying to get that article out of the category since it doesn't belong there. Thanks to you both for any info you can provide. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 19:20, 25 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, Marnette. I believe the problem was that I'd added pp templates for edit as well as move protection (it has both). I removed the move protection template and it looks like the page is no longer listed as having an incorrect protection template. It's an unusual situation as the page is indefinitely under pending-changes protection but temporarily semi-protected, which effectively supersedes the pending-changes protection since anyone able to edit a semi-protected page will have her changes automatically accepted. Thanks for bringing my mistake to my attention. —  Rebbing    talk   20:04, 25 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for checking on this . At one point two different bots had things to say about the templates :-) I'm glad things got straightened out. Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 21:14, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, that I think might be a bug with MusikBot. Using is not a common way of indicating a page is pending-changes protected, but I suppose it was accurate. I'll look into it. Thanks &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  21:26, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Removing protection templates from unprotected page

 * Thanks, I think! I had to comment out File:Zootopia.jpg because it is a fair use file and should not be displayed outside the mainspace. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:38, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Notification about disabling the Wikipedia collections tool
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 * Boooooo &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:49, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello from Qesther16 (new user)
Hi there..I'd like to create a Living People - BIO for a well known radio personality that resides here in Georgia..his name is Cory Condrey...he's listed in Wikipedia but there's no content. Thank you! 2/26/1671.56.75.135 (talk) 21:05, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello! Looks like the article was repeatedly deleted as unambiguous advertising. In this situation I recommend using the article wizard to create a draft article. Once complete you can submit it for review and other experienced editors will help you refine it before publishing it. Hope this helps &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:55, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

New Tool?
Hi MA, if I may abbreviate! Random tool question for you since you seem to be quite proficient in those: Is there a tool wherein one can input a regex and search the Username/SUL list for occurrences thereof? Or if not, what it might take to build one? The current search feature is only "starting with" which isn't too useful beyond finding an open name. Thanks in advance! Crow Caw  02:30, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey! I don't think such a tool exists, nor does the API provide this functionality. However you could query the database directly using Quarry. Your query would be something like SELECT * FROM enwiki_p.user WHERE user_name RLIKE "my_regex"; &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:59, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Perfect, just what I needed! Thanks! Crow  Caw  19:19, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-09
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 * Thanks to the Graph extension and Pageview API, we now have   templates that can show pageviews for any wiki page for any of the wikis. See the examples.
 * The Capiunto extension is installed on test wiki. Capiunto provides flexible infobox functionality for Scribunto and generates HTML for infobox features such as headers and rows. It is designed for clean and modern infoboxes that are driven by data from Wikidata, easily usable across different language versions, and easily extensible.
 * The visual editor now follows the TemplateData  setting announced in November. When you edit or add a use of a template, the wikitext will be laid out in one of the two ways.
 * The order of parameters and format defined in a template's TemplateData will be now respected.

Changes this week
 * On wikis where the visual editor is available in single edit tab mode, red links may open the visual editor instead of the wikitext editor, depending on user preferences.
 * Anonymous editor warning is now displayed as a warningbox for consistency in both the visual editor and the wikitext editor.
 * Parsoid has been updated to fit some HTML 5 specifications.

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Pageviews Analysis
Hi MusikAnimal,

Could you please explain the dramatic decline in the number of views in the last three days on ruwiki? Somehow it concerns articles with titles in Cyrillic, compare |Обама,_Барак|Ленин,_Владимир_Ильич and |Intel|Microsoft. Sealle (talk) 12:35, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Wow, very interesting! Pageviews Analysis displays data directly from the WMF-provided API, and the fact that it's showing any data at all tells me something must be wrong on their end. I can get in touch with analytics team and see if they know what's going on &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:49, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, please do. Викидим (talk) 08:31, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Any response? The problem is still existing. --Алый Король (talk) 03:24, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * They are working on it! The phab task has even been given the highest priority, "Unbreak Now!" &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  03:57, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! I enjoy working there and glad to hear I'm doing a good job :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  04:52, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Rollback
I have been fighting some nice amount of vandalism, and I am looking for rollback permission in order to use Huggle. I believe that I am ready for it, and I certainly will never abuse it. I would like to have your opinion on whether I would be granted that permission, since I wasn't able to find clear guidelines. I am not requesting it on the regular channel because I afraid that in the event that I get denied it will be harder to get it in the future. Thanks, WannaBeEditor (talk) 06:06, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

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If i put a request for rollback, do i have a good track record?
Hey MusikAnimal, I was wondering if my current contribution track record is good enough to get rollback. Not a formal request but im seeing if my contributions stand up to scrutiny. Winterysteppe (talk) 16:07, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Doing a very quick spot check, I would be inclined to give you rollback if I were an admin. You should go ahead and request, you are likely going to get it.—cyberpower <sub style="margin-left:-13.5ex;color:\#FF8C00;font-family:Comic Sans MS"><span style="color:\#FF8C00">Chat:Limited Access 16:10, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Regarding my rollback rights
Hi MusikAnimal. Before I start, I'd just like to thank you for granting me rollback rights in the first place, as well as letting me keep them after my unacceptable edit summary shortly after receiving them. I really do appreciate that. However, I am now starting to take my actions whilst using Huggle into question, and so are many other editors. In this month alone, I have made several accidental reverts, either by misreading a revision, by presuming an edit is vandalism when it is, in fact, not, or by accidentally pressing the "Q" button when I am reading a revision. I am therefore requesting that my rollback be revoked for the time being. I'd rather admit to my unacceptable behaviour and face a milder sanction for it now, than be in denial and risk receiving a block later.

I am unsure whether or not I will be allowed to request these rights again, but that is not a concern of mine. I would like to take this opportunity to apologise for my unacceptable behaviour, and I feel as if this revocation will be in the community's best interest. If, however, I am able to apply again, I will only do so when I feel as if I have become a more responsible user. Kindest regards, --Ches (talk) 19:39, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ I don't really have time to review your contributions, but I will tell you lots of people make mistakes with Huggle – myself included. The idea I think is to not go too fast. Semi-automated software will work wonders for getting things done very fast, but consequently makes you more prone to error. Just try to be more cautious, is all. The important thing, at least going by what you're telling me, is that you are trying to do good and the fact you upfront about your shortcomings speaks volumes. If you feel you're ready for rollback again don't hesitate to reach out to me. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:17, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you sir. --Ches (talk) 18:06, 4 March 2016 (UTC)