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Tech News: 2017-14
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The  button now says   or   on most Wikipedias. The point is to make it more clear that the edit will change the page immediately.   is when you save a new page and   when you edit an existing page.
 * The tracking category    : is now added when a template loop is found. A template loop is for example when a template tries to use a second template that uses the first template.
 * English Wikipedia now has cookie blocks. It will come to more wikis in the future. This is an extension to the autoblock system so when a user is blocked, the next time they visit the wiki a cookie will be set. This means that even if the user switches accounts and to a new IP address the cookie will block them again.

Problems
 * Wikidata descriptions, aliases and labels that used some characters could not be saved. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 April. It will be on all wikis from 6 April (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 4 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * You can join the next office hour with the Wikidata team. The meeting will be on 5 April at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * New filters for Recent changes will come to Wikidata and Persian, Dutch, Russian, Turkish, Czech and Hebrew Wikipedia on 11 April. The new filters include filtering, highlighting and user intent prediction. User intent prediction means the filter tries to help editors determine if the edit was made in good faith or not. Other wikis will get it later.

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Musik Question
Hey Musik, was wondering what a "spider" is?? It's one of the options in the page view stats, and I notice that if I click on just that one, it has been pretty busy on my home page...lol. What does it do, and what the heck is it? Thanks, your pal→ Pocketthis (talk) 15:38, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
 * (tps) See Web crawler. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 16:02, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, there is a little ? symbol next to the "Agent", it brings you to the FAQ :) Sorry this is not obvious enough &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:36, 4 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks guys, Now I just have to figure out why my home page has been visited 130 times by a web crawler in the last 30 days. However, this page has been crawled 629 times in 30 days. Perhaps we are popular with insects. :-) → Pocketthis (talk) 17:27, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Rollback confirmation gadget
Hi MusikAnimal. I have the gadget version of User:MusikAnimal/confirmationRollback-mobile selected in my preferences, so when a thumb accidentally landed on the rollback link on an arbcom page while using my iPad a short time ago, I immediately tapped the "cancel" button. Unfortunately, the rollback happened anyway, so I had to rollback that edit. I thought that maybe I had missed the cancel button, but when I tried it again on my own talk, the same thing happened. I can send you details (OS version, browser, etc.) via email or IRC if you need it. Thanks ​—DoRD (talk)​ 09:50, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I tried this out on my iPad simulator, running iOS 10.2, and the gadget worked as expected. Perhaps you have a conflicting gadget? Nothing stands out in your common.js as being a problem &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  13:24, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

MusikBot?
Is he your creation? — usernamekiran [talk]   06:35, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Indeed! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:55, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * That's only of of his fabulous creations! --Neil N  talk to me 23:44, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-15
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg Tidy is going to be replaced with an HTML5 parsing algorithm. Bad HTML in wikitext would cause problems on a number of wikis. There is now a ParserMigration extension on all wikis that you can use to help clean this up. You can read more about how you can use it.

Changes this week
 * Some older web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis from this week. If you have an old web browser on your computer you can upgrade to a newer version.
 * New filters for Recent changes will come to Wikidata and Persian, Russian, Turkish and French Wikipedia on 11 April. The schedule has been changed to fix the user intent prediction filters for some wikis. User intent prediction means the filter tries to make it easier for editors to determine if the edit was made in good faith or not. Other wikis will get it later.
 * The list of special characters in the wikitext editor and the visual editor will now have a group of Canadian Aboriginal characters.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 April. It will be on all wikis from 13 April (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April and 3 May. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this.
 * RevisionSlider will change how you move between revisions. This will be available on the test wiki from 11 April. It will come to other wikis later if users like the change. You can test it and give feedback.

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Twinkle
Also about Twinkle. One year ago I made a proposal to make optional loading of XFD discussion page, but there were no other opinions and it was archived. How can I draw the attention of TW devs or other interested people? Take a look at this - more than 50 times a day Twinkle loaded the FFD page for me without my explicit permission:) A similar situation for the previous day. Thanks to newly enabled PROD for files, there will be less FFD entries from users (including me), but an option that makes optional loading of XFD discussion page still be needed IMO. XXN, 20:37, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * FYI. I think I just found a bug while checking the history of the FFD page for 10 April. Should I report it somewhere else (github/WT:TW), or you can fix it faster (I think these pages aren't watched by devs)? XXN, 20:54, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Reported this bug on github. XXN, 11:42, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late reply. Yes GitHub is the best place. The devs are watching it at and WT:TW, but there are a lot of bug reports so although we don't always reply, rest assured we see them :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

April 19: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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Tech News: 2017-16
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can add  to the end of the URL on Wikimedia wikis to disable your personal CSS and JavaScript. Example:  . This means you can test if a problem is because of your user scripts or gadgets without uninstalling them.
 * You can now see a list of all autoblocks on Special:AutoblockList.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Wikiversity and Wikinews logos are now shown directly from the configuration and not from . If you want to change logo or have an anniversary logo, see how to request a configuration change. This is how it already works for other projects. They can request logo changes the same way.

Problems
 * Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this. This will also happen on 3 May.

Changes this week
 * There is no new Mediawiki version this week. This is because of the data centre test.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * stats.wikimedia.org will be replaced. You can see the new prototype. You can leave feedback on this change.
 * Page Previews will be turned on for logged-out users on a large number of wikis in May. It could be postponed and happen later. Page Previews shows readers a short part of a linked article when they rest their mouse pointer on the link. This is to help them understand what it is about without leaving the article they are reading. Page Previews used to be called Hovercards. Users who have tested the feature can give feedback.
 * Octicons-tools.svg From next week, user scripts using very old deprecated wikibits functions will show errors. These functions have not worked since 2013. You should fix or disable broken scripts. You can see examples of how to upgrade scripts.

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Template:Test5 listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:Test5. Since you had some involvement with the Template:Test5 redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Ups and Downs 1234 (🗨) (My Contribs) 19:03, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

AWB and users renamed more than once
NgYShung has been renamed twice, first to QianLing and then QianCheng. But Special:Diff/774972019 only follows the first rename, not the second. If a user has been renamed twice, from A to B and then C, the bot should place C rather than B in WP:AWB/CP. Similarly, if A is renamed to B, which is in turn renamed to C and then D, the bot should place D on the check page, and so on for more renames. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 20:56, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I consider this very much an edge case, but you're right. What's weird is the bot should have figured out the second rename on its last run, which was earlier today. Having the bot follow all renames every time isn't particularly easy, but I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the report &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:03, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-17
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * New filters for recent changes are now available as a beta feature on most wikis. You can turn it on in your preferences. Remaining wikis will have the new filters on 9 May.
 * When administrators, bureaucrats and stewards make a user a member of a user group they can now set an expiry date. A user group is for example "administrators" or "bots". This means that they can give someone user rights for a limited time. This is similar to how blocks and page protections can be limited in time. Special:UserRights will have new options for this. You can read more about user groups.

Problems
 * Since the data centre test last week the content translation tool has been disabled. This is because of a database problem. It will be back as soon as the problem has been solved.

Changes this week
 * The GuidedTour extension will be enabled on all wikis. This is a tool to explain to new users how to edit.
 * Wiktionary will handle interlanguage links in a new way. The Cognate extension will automatically link pages with the same title between Wiktionaries. For this to work all old interlanguage links have to be removed. You can read more about this.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 April. It will be on all wikis from 27 April (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 25 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Removing protection templates from protected pages?
See this. If you want me to see your reply please ping me or use TB. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 10:27, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Three years of adminship, today.
Wishing MusikAnimal a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman ( talk ) 15:12, 28 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Three years already! Wow. Thanks for the WikiLove :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  20:29, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Happy holiday in Cuba - pageview dataset question
I hope you enjoyed your time in Cuba. There is a user in NYC,, who works with Cuban people on the Cuban government Wikipedia equivalent and who wants to bring more Wikimedia access into Cuba. If you have interest in Cuba beyond your vacation then maybe you could talk with her sometime.

I am writing to ask for some guidance. I would like to see a 2016 traffic report on all English Wikipedia articles about drugs. I suppose that might mean all articles drilling down in Category:Drugs, or it might mean all English Wikipedia articles which are instances of. I have some assistance in this; there is a statistics team at Consumer Reports who would help me sort and present data, if only I could get them a dataset of the daily 2016 traffic to every Wikipedia article on a drug.

Can you give me a suggestion on how to do the following -
 * 1) Get a list of all drugs which have English Wikipedia articles
 * 2) Given that list, how should I get daily traffic for it for 2016? Massviews will not collect 365 daily traffic reports for ~5000 articles, right?

Thanks for anything you can share.  Blue Rasberry  (talk)  19:58, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Going a little beyond this, I talked with Doc James about this. Suppose that I wanted to analyze:
 * all Wikimedia medical articles
 * in all languages
 * and noting differences between desktop, mobile, or whatever other types of access there are
 * Do you have any idea how I could get that larger dataset from which I could do analysis?  Blue Rasberry   (talk)  20:44, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey! You people at WP:MED are all about getting as much data as possible! =P Massviews now supports up to 20,000 pages for any date range. Unfortunately however it doesn't support recursive category search yet, so something like Category:Drugs won't work :( For this feature you can follow T149334. I think that is next on my list, I know Richard wanted the same feature to get more data for the Met.As for all medicine pages across all languages, I wish there were an easy way to do this, but there isn't. at least knows how to get data for all the MED pages here on enwiki, so you could do the same for the other major Wikipedias, if you want. I do like the idea of going off of Wikidata, as then you could indeed do cool things like get the pageviews of pages that are "instance of pharmaceutical drug". For that I've created T164113. It is likely however with that example, you'll end up with more than 20,000 pages in which case Massviews would give up. This is because currently all the processing is done clientside, so you are limited to what your computer can handle. With T157830 I hope to implement a backend service where we can take advantage of server resources and remove the 20,000 page limit. Lots of people want just the data, no charts or pretty interface, so adding the backend service is high up on my list, too.Sorry I can't help you but so much! We could write one-off scripts to get the data you want, but that's a lot of work and it makes more sense to me to revamp Massviews and the other tools to fulfill needs like this for everyone.As for Cuba, it was very fun! I wanted to ask people if they had heard of Wikipedia, but my Spanish skills only go but so far. Also, I saw first hand just how rare it is to enjoy internet at all, so I am under the safe assumption the free knowledge movement unfortunately is not widespread in that country. It seems to me that is challenge #1 – getting more people connected to the web. I went all five days without doing so much as checking my email, because at least in Havana you must wait in long lines to get internet, and you are limited to but an hour at a time. In some areas it's almost treated like a drug, where you can pay X amount to get access to someone's connection which is daisy-chained from a series of other households, where if one happens to unplug everyone else looses their connection. It's a real shame to see and was somewhat of a culture shock. I look forward to seeing Wikipedia in the hands of the Cuban people some day &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  20:29, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The popular page tool is calculating total pageviews for the WP for the month again. which is nice. Have asked Kaldari about the possibility of going back in time a few months.User_talk:Kaldari These numbers include redirects while from my understanding the masspageview tool does not.
 * I think that explains the 196 M versus 209 M for March 2017 but not entirely sure. Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 20:39, 28 April 2017 (UTC)


 * (I know I should not post to archives, but I am just closing this out.) You are very kind, yes, med people like data but overall I think we are just starting to realize how much there is and how we can become more ready for the flood of opportunity which you are creating. I looked over those tickets you created - you understand my needs, and you described them accurately in the tickets. Thanks for sharing this information with me. It is useful for me to get your confirmation about what is not currently easy to do, and encouraging for me to hear that what you are doing are the things likely to be useful to large numbers of people.
 * I expect that sometime before the year's end Wiki NYC will host some presentation about Wikipedia in Cuba and other islands. Probably this will happen on a WikiWednesday. I hope that you can join.  Blue Rasberry   (talk)  21:09, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Pageviews Analysis
Hi MusikAnimal: Is it just me, or has https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews been petering out? Over the last few days when I have tried to use it for various articles, it doesn't load any data, times out and then a message is provided stating, "Fatal error: Operation timed out. Please refresh the page to try again or report this issue". North America1000 23:40, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I have not received any other reports of this issue lately, and there have been no code changes since April 5. I do believe there was some maintenance of the Pageviews API recently, but that should be resolved now. Perhaps you happened to use it during those brief periods of downtime? Is it working for you now? The tool waits 30 seconds before timing out, so your internet connection could also be at fault here &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  23:49, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * . North America1000 23:50, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * , : Nevermind, it's working. An add-on in my browser was causing the malady. Thanks for the quick reply, though! North America1000 23:53, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

mediawiki.util and User:MusikAnimal/responseHelper.js
Hi, I noticed that this script is not enforcing dom ready before accessing the dom, and not declaring its dependency on mediawiki.util RL module. —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 17:04, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know! Does this look right (first block of code)? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  23:00, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Much better :) —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 07:33, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-18
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The content translation tool works again. It was turned off because of a database problem.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Scripts using very old deprecated wikibits functions show errors. These functions have not worked since 2013. You should fix or disable broken scripts. You can see examples of how to upgrade scripts. This is the same thing as Tech News wrote about in issue 2017/16. You need to add  block for your scripts also, or add   dependency in gadget ResourceLoader section in MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition.

Problems
 * Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 3 May. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this.

Changes this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week. This is because of the data centre test.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 2 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * All Wikimedia wikis will have cookie blocks from May 8. This is an extension to the autoblock system so when a user is blocked, the next time they visit the wiki a cookie will be set. This means that even if the user switches accounts and to a new IP address the cookie will block them again.
 * The,   and   buttons will look slightly different. This is to fit with the OOUI look. Users can test scripts, gadgets and so on to see if they work with the new interface by adding   to the URL.

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NPR
Hi. Salzburger Kunstverein is a classic example of tag-bombing and typical of the reasons I campaigned for a user right for page patrolling. The patroller doesn’t appear to have done any research and therefore ignores what a ‘’Kunsteverein’’ is in the German language region and even its German WP article, and did not provide this good faith new-article creator with any tips. As you know, I’ve given up on my 6-year campaign to get NPP improved, so as you accorded the right here, perhaps you could have a word with them and maybe also run a check across their other patrols - MrX is generally a user whose knowledge and work I appreciate. Cheers, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:05, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I suppose we could just ping him here: &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  23:01, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * if you disagree with how I patrolled this or any other article, you could have tried to discuss it with me first. I routinely do a minimal amount of research for any articles that I tag during a page review, including Google searches, reviewing citations, and reading the article. In this case, I believe that the tags I placed are reasonable given the article content. I have no idea why you think I owed the article creator any tips beyond the template suggestion (with links) in the tags themselves. While it would be nice, it's completely unrealistic given that number of articles to be reviewed.
 * I find it a bit ironic that that you are the person complaining about the NPP queue growing so fast and yet you find the time to suggest that another admin talk to me and review my other patrols. NPP is a thankless job and you just made it a little more thankless. Any admin who believes that the thousands of patrols that I've made over the past five years are not a net positive for the project is welcome to revoke the bit.- MrX 23:28, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 * , I don't see where irony comes into it. I’ve given up on my 6-year campaign to get NPP improved - that has been thankless enough, and my genuine concern here does not deserve you suggesting that I do not find your edits a net positive. That said, There may be a huge backlog but it has always been obvious that good patrolling rather than speed is quintessential. I don't find time because I'm on a Wikibreak - don't you think I deserve that after all the hours I put into Wikpedia for free? A quick stab to do some patrollng (not that my 20 patrols will make any difference to the 20,000) while I did have time to help out with the backlog immediately revealed in seconds that not only is the situation still not improving, but it's getting decidedly worse. It took only seconds to make the updated graph - nobody else is bothering or even gives too hoots about the situation - the WMF does  not appear to be overly concerned either  and I, of course therefore, am now past caring. At least you are among the tiny handful of users who have been watching Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and I thank you for that. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:44, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Here's my take... For starters, even in its older state, the article doesn't seem overly promotional. I would remove the mission statement, but it otherwise is not too bad. Notability is questionable, but I did find one NY Times article with some information, others look like passing mentions. So that I won't refute that, and it's also true much of the content is supported by a primary source. That being said I don't think was too out of line here. I personally would would have waited a little more time before tagging, and leaving a welcome template never hurts, even if it's a "problem welcome" template. Page Curation makes it pretty easy to leave the user a personal note, and I think Twinkle automatically leaves a welcome template, no? If not I can make it do that :) I hate to draw this contrast, but the later edits by  and  were very helpful, and obviously the more ideal way to deal with an apparent good-faith creation (especially copyright removal!). This will slow you down as far as tackling the backlog, but you may find you'll get an equal sense of satisfaction. I'll also note MrX didn't actually mark the page as patrolled, and hence is not "abusing" their patrolling privileges, per se. And that's what's most alarming... no one – MrX or any of the three subsequent page patrollers – actually marked the page as patrolled. Is there a bug, or did everyone actually forget?!? Obviously if you don't mark it as patrolled you're not helping the backlog :) &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  06:45, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Nevermind the above, I am curious why all of you made patroller-like edits to Salzburger Kunstverein but did not mark the page as patrolled? Did you intentionally leave it unpatrolled? Is there a bug in the software? Maybe Mz7 and Exemplo just wanted a second opinion, but Ymblanter and JJMC89, you both (nobly) made substantial edits to bring the article to an acceptable state. At that point surely you are OK with removing the article from the backlog? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:02, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * In the morning, I was not sure that the middle part is not copyvio (I had a quick check which did not give anything). I did not have much time and left it unpatrolled. I would have probably come back in the evening but it was already in a good shape.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:07, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I generally don't mark pages as "patrolled" unless I've given them a thorough going over, including a quick check of sources etc. In this case, all I did was fix a few formatting errors and add an improvement tag using AutoWikiBrowser (which, incidentally, does not show if an article is "patrolled" or not.) Exemplo347 (talk) 21:14, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I can't remember specifically why I did not mark the article as reviewed, but usually I will not mark an article as reviewed if I think it may be a borderline CSD/AfD/PROD candidate, or if I suspect WP:COPYVIO issues but couldn't find any myself. My hope is that a second reviewer can make a final determination. In this case, I think I would have normally marked it as reviewed, but possibly forgot.
 * In response to your and 's comments above, I think there are different approaches to page reviewing and personal judgement will vary from editor to editor. If anything, the notability tag that I placed was probably the least defensible. I stand by the advert tag, while acknowledging that the issues were minor and very fixable. @Kudpung, yes of course you deserve as much of a Wikibreak as you want. But I don't think it's fair to point out an example of my page reviewing that you disagree with as an example of why NPP needed to be a user right. I routinely see new articles tagged with 4-7 tags; articles inappropriately G11ed; page patrollers that do nothing but add useless no cat tags or orphan tags; and extremely hasty CSD tagging. I think it's usually more productive to ask why a patroller did something, before hinting that they should not be patrolling at all. Perspective is important.- MrX 22:01, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I only went to the page due to Kudpung mentioning it here, not to patrol it. I didn't even check whether the page was patrolled or not. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 02:11, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2017). Administrator changes
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 * An RfC has clarified that user categories should be emptied upon deletion, but redlinked user categories should not be removed if re-added by the user.
 * Discussions are ongoing regarding proposed changes to the COI policy. Changes so far have included clarification that adding a link on a Wikipedia forum to a job posting is not a violation of the harassment policy.

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 * You can now see a list of all autoblocks at Special:AutoblockList.
 * There is a new tool for adding archives to dead links. Administrators are able to restrict other user's ability to use the tool, and have additional permissions when changing URL and domain data.
 * Administrators, bureaucrats and stewards can now set an expiry date when granting user rights. (discuss, permalink)

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"must wait for the document to be ready"
Isn't that exactly what the outer  does? — Earwig   talk  00:30, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I thought so too, but I think the anonymous function is just a way to add closure and not let the variables leak into the global scope. probably knows more... :) Anyway hopefully that's OK that I made that change! I got very excited that I finally figured out the issue. On Chrome at least, half the time the script and others wouldn't load (unless it was in my common.js). See also T149449 &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  00:41, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but... — Earwig   talk  00:43, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Well that's enough to convince me! I'll undo my mess &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  00:46, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I see, User:MusikAnimal/responseHelper.js was using a "vanilla" anon function, and not wrapped in jQuery, hence why TheDJ pointed it out. A little embarrassing that it's taken me this long to figure this out &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  00:48, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah ha, that would make sense. Appreciate your looking into it, nevertheless! — Earwig   talk  00:50, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

JavaScript RegExp problem
I noticed your JavaScript genius userbox, and was hoping you could help me with a problem I've run into writing a userscript.

Please see my post at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject JavaScript.

Thank you. The Transhumanist 11:31, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't have time to help right now :( It looks like there are some regex experts chiming in on the discussion though. Hope you get it figured out! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:18, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

REQ: Mar Thoma Syrian Church
Massive removal of content without consensus and there also seems to be some sort of filter setting,can you check whether this account is a single purpose account and whether this user has initiated this filter to circumvent any changes of theirs. Meanwhile kindly revert to Arjayay's last edit. Thank You.

Arjayay's last edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mar_Thoma_Syrian_Church&oldid=777121053

Can you also provide links to where to read about automated filters and its settings, for process understanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.213.18.168 (talk • contribs)
 * The place to raise your concerns would be at Talk:Mar Thoma Syrian Church, so that others familiar with the subject can chime in. You can ping other users with the code . Hope this helps &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:20, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Re: the filters that blocked your edits, it looks like those might indeed be false positives. I can try to look into it but WP:EF/FP is the venue used to report false positives. Someone there may be able to help you quicker. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:21, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually it looks like it blocked your edit because it contained the word "JEWS" in all caps. This is a tricky one... in your case it was the URL of a citation. We will have to look into this. In the meantime, as I said, try consulting the concerned users on the article talk page. If necessary someone can make the changes on your behalf &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:26, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

responseHelper
For some reason, responseHelper only works for the edit summaries, but not inserting the template on the actual page. Can you help? Am I doing something wrong? Thanks! Jdcomix (talk) 17:22, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I am not sure, no one else has reported any issues. You can check your JS console for errors, see WP:JSERROR. However, with all due respect, you might want to reconsider responding to any requests as a non-admin. This is often frowned upon &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  20:10, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-19
<section begin="technews-2017-W19"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * Some users have a problem with the watchlist. Some changes in categories make the watchlist a blank page. The developers are working on this. Until this is fixed you can try some things that have helped other editors if you have this problem. You can turn on  in your watchlist preferences. You can turn off   in your watchlist preferences. You can remove problematic categories from Special:EditWatchlist/raw.
 * There was a problem with the visual editor for several days. You could not save edits that triggered a CAPTCHA. This would for example be when a new user added external links in references. This was fixed on 2 May.

Changes this week
 * When you edit you can switch between the visual editor and the wikitext editor. This works if the wiki you edit has the visual editor. The menu will now say  and   instead of   and  . This is because it was confusing when the menu said you could switch to the editor you were already using.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 May. It will be on all wikis from 11 May (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 9 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * You will be able to get a notification when a page you created is connected to a Wikidata item. This will come to Wikivoyage on 9 May. If there are no problems it will come to most Wikipedias on 30 May. It will come to other projects and English, French and German Wikipedia later in the summer. It will be opt-in for existing users and opt-out for new users.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Markup that looks like code for language variants might need to be fixed. If  is used in transclusions or web addresses it has to be escaped appropriately. You can use   for transclusions and   in web addresses. A transclusion could for example be when you use   in a template:  . This is because of some code fixes to the preprocessor and affects all wikis.

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About 'confirmed user'
Hello, isn't confirmed user and autoconfirmed user are two different user group in Wikipedia? fer dous   12:58, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * They effectively are the same, only "confirmed" may be manually granted by admins so that accounts don't have to wait to be automatically confirmed ("autoconfirmed"). See User access levels for more &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:31, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * thanks for the response. I applied for the 'confirmed user' group because I want to use the translation feature. Your bot replied there by mentioning autoconfirmation. Please check it manually.  fer dous    03:08, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Editing News #1—2017
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<div style="float:right;width:230px;margin-left:1em;border-style:solid;border-width:1px;padding:1em;"> Did you know?

Did you know that you can review your changes visually?

When you are finished editing the page, type your edit summary and then choose "". In visual mode, you will see additions, removals, new links, and formatting highlighted. Other changes, such as changing the size of an image, are described in notes on the side.



Click the toggle button to switch between visual and wikitext diffs.



The wikitext diff is the same diff tool that is used in the wikitext editors and in the page history.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has spent most of their time supporting the 2017 wikitext editor mode which is available inside the visual editor as a Beta Feature, and adding the new visual diff tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the work finished each week at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, supporting the 2017 wikitext editor as a beta feature, and improving the visual diff tool.

Recent changes
A new wikitext editing mode is available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices. The 2017 wikitext editor has the same toolbar as the visual editor and can use the citoid service and other modern tools. Go to Special:Preferences to enable the.

A new visual diff tool is available in VisualEditor's visual mode. You can toggle between wikitext and visual diffs. More features will be added to this later. In the future, this tool may be integrated into other MediaWiki components. 

The team have added multi-column support for lists of footnotes. The  block can automatically display long lists of references in columns on wide screens. This makes footnotes easier to read. You can request multi-column support for your wiki. 

Other changes:
 * You can now use your web browser's function to switch typing direction in the new wikitext mode. This is particularly helpful for RTL language users like Urdu or Hebrew who have to write JavaScript or CSS. You can use Command+Shift+X or Control+Shift+X to trigger this.
 * The way to switch between the visual editing mode and the wikitext editing mode is now consistent. There is a drop-down menu that shows the two options. This is now the same in desktop and mobile web editing, and inside things that embed editing, such as Flow.
 * The item has been moved to the top of the  menu (from clicking on the  VisualEditor - Icon - Menu.svg icon) for quicker access.  There is also now a "Templates used on this page" feature there.
 * You can now create   tags (sometimes used as  ) for chemical formulas inside the visual editor.
 * Tables can be set as collapsed or un-collapsed.
 * The menu now includes characters for Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics and angle quotation marks (‹› and ⟨⟩) .  The team thanks the volunteer developer, Tpt.
 * A bug caused some section edit conflicts to blank the rest of the page. This has been fixed.  The team are sorry for the disruption.
 * There is a new keyboard shortcut for citations:  + +  on a PC, or  + +  on a Mac.  It is based on the keyboard shortcut for making links, which is  +  on a PC or  +  on a Mac.

Future changes

 * The VisualEditor team is working with the Community Tech team on a syntax highlighting tool. It will highlight matching pairs of   tags and other types of wikitext syntax.  You will be able to turn it on and off.  It will first become available in VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode, maybe late in 2017.
 * The kind of button used to, , and finish an edit will change in all WMF-supported wikitext editors. The new buttons will use OOjs UI.  The buttons will be larger, brighter, and easier to read.  The labels will remain the same.  You can test the new button by editing a page and adding   to the end of the URL, like this:  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Sandbox?action=edit&ooui=1  The old appearance will no longer be possible, even with local CSS changes.
 * The outdated 2006 wikitext editor will be removed later this year. It is used by approximately 0.03% of active editors.  See a list of editing tools on mediawiki.org if you are uncertain which one you use.

If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. User:Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:19, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Jacques Rosas
Morning Musik could you possibly tell me if this page has been nonindexed and if so if the template tag can be removed?Masterknighted (talk) 12:49, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Jacques Rosas was unreviewed using Page Curation, this removed the indexing, as any article that is unpatrolled or under 30 days old is not indexed. However you are autopatrolled, so this page should not have showed up in Special:NewPagesFeed at all. Going by the revision history I think it did... otherwise it's strange patrollers during the same short timeframe. I will look into this! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:38, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I have also re-patrolled it, so it should be indexed now &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:39, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I see what happened... must have used Special:NewPagesFeed to view all recently created pages (including ones that were already patrolled). He then unpatrolled it, which in turn meant other patrollers showed up to edit it (since it then showed up in the unpatrolled list). So there ya have it! Unfortunately I don't think you can re-patrol your own pages, but if this happens again you could check the log, then ask the user who unpatrolled it to give it another review. Hope this helps! &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  15:44, 8 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you Musik, so if it is still not indexing who do ask at this point?Masterknighted (talk) 23:10, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * It should be indexing now, but maybe Google and others haven't crawled it yet. I would check back in a day or two &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  23:53, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

MusikBot
Hey, do you think your bot can run with a one-minute delay, given edits such as in here? It's not necessary that the bot's edits be done instantly, right? Drmies (talk) 01:42, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * No, not necessary, but here it was incidental. The bot runs on a 10-minute schedule, as you can see 23:10, 23:20, 01:40. With the most revert, indeed it got in the way of your rollback, which is definitely not ideal :/ But the same issue would have happened to DangerousJXD: If they had rollback (they don't), they wouldn't be able to use it due to the bot edits, yet in that case the bot waited 8 and 9 minutes after the last edit. So a delay isn't the solution, it seems. The only thing I can think of is that the bot could go off of ORES to determine if the last edit was likely vandalism, and if so, don't edit. Fun idea but not sure how easy it will be to implement &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  03:07, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. I didn't know it ran on a schedule. SineBot runs immediately, right? There's much that I don't know, though I am realizing that the two vandals in that article are probably one person. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 04:28, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Per the docs: "Except on pages that are frequently modified, the bot will normally give editors a grace period (a minute or so) to sign and date unsigned/undated comments before assuming that a particular editor forgot to sign." --<b style="color:navy">Neil N </b> <i style="color:blue">talk to me</i> 04:34, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Filter 852
I have no idea how filters work, but I was wondering why continued edits by the IP (e.g. this) apparently hadn't been picked up the filter? Cheers, Number   5  7  11:55, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

I don't know why
I don't know why, but until now I thought that this was a bot account. Apparently you are an actual user - sorry I didn't notice sooner haha. --TheSandDoctor (talk) 05:29, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * User talk:MusikBot redirects here. Maybe that's why you're confused? :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:28, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Quite possibly haha. I've seen MusikBot around a lot at WP:PERM etc as well as you and somehow thought them to be the same haha (I realize the difference now). --TheSandDoctor (talk) 14:33, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

FilterMonitor config
As a non-EFM who watches the recent filter changes feed, I was a bit annoyed that the names of private filters (which are public) were not showing up in the list. The link to the filter provides no information whatsoever for private filters. So I tried changing the bot configuration JSON...as far as I know I made no syntax errors, but it appears that the bot got confused and spit out a decades-long history of filter modifications? I'm not sure what happened. – Train2104 (t • c) 16:25, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I know you saw my revert, but to repeat it here, I will look into fixing this. Including the description was something we decided from the beginning that we didn't want to do (hence why that feature was never tested), but you're right that these descriptions are already public. We generally try to give LTA/sock filters ambiguous names, too, so this shouldn't be a problem &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:58, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

help for a beginner
on may 12 the first 'on this day' entry ran--May 12: Birth of Muhammad al-Mahdi (Shia Islam, 2017) the article states that the general concensus is that he was born in 869 c.e. i posted a message on the main page errors talk page, and when i saw later that it hadn't been changed i posted a similar message. the next day i received a notification from user Stephen that my edit had been reverted, with a message that rather baldly stated 'it has already been explained to you'. i hadn't received an explanation and wrote a message to Stephen asking for clarification, if they had the time and energy, but haven't heard back. your username showed up on one of the messages, and on your userpage i was quite happy to see that you like to help beginners, but a little distressed to see that one of your specialties is dealing with vandalism. if you have the time to explain how a message on a talk page can be viewed as an edit that can be reverted it would help me understand a little more how wikipedia works, and if you could help clear my name of any charges of vandalism i may inadvertently accrued i would be very thankful. and as far as the 'on this day' entry goes, i figure if it was somehow not incorrect i don't see how it could be construed as not incomprehensible. i feel bad about asking for your time, but this has me pretty confused. thanks, Potholehotline (talk) 03:55, 15 May 2017 (UTC) Potholehotline (talk) 03:55, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-20
<section begin="technews-2017-W20"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can now use ISBNs to automatically generate citations in the visual editor. This works on wikis that have enabled Citoid.
 * The Two Column Edit Conflict View is available as a beta feature on all wikis. It is a new interface for the edit conflict resolution page.

Problems
 * The  library does not load automatically any more. Your Special:MyPage/common.js may use it. If you have technical problems that started a couple of weeks ago you can try adding   as the first line in the file and   as a last one. Tech News wrote about this in the 2017/18 issue.

Changes this week
 * The RevisionSlider extension will be a default feature on all wikis. RevisionSlider is an easier way to move between changes in the page history. It has been a default feature on German, Arabic and Hebrew Wikipedia and a beta feature on all wikis. You will be able to turn it off in your preferences.
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes
 * Administrators will soon be able to search through deleted pages.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Markup that looks like code for language variants might need to be fixed. Tech News wrote about this last week. If   is used in transclusions or web addresses it has to be escaped appropriately. You can use   for transclusions and   in web addresses. This is because of some code fixes to the preprocessor and affects all wikis. You can now see the full list of wikis with this problem and help fix them to avoid that things break later this month. You might find false positives. You can read more about what to fix.

Older unreported changes
 * Your Meta user page is shown on all wikis where you don't have a local user page. You can now add the magic word  to your Meta user page to stop this.

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Sunday May 21: Metropolitan Museum of Art Edit-a-thon + global online challenge
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Mosul-Deir Ezzor-Palmyra offensive
I'm guilty of this form. I accidentally pressed the Save page. I need to get from the start with Admin and all other members and help to open and edit it right this article. Why? I'm responsible. Help me, please, or rearrange. The battle for the city of Mosul has nothing to do with the battle in the west of the province. These operations are aimed at Deir ez-Zor penetration from the east to the Euphrates. Similarly Airport T4 Palmyra offensive (2017) from January to March in prokrajini East Homs. Eastern Homs offensive (2017). --Baba Mica (talk) 19:19, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Bot clerking question
No rush on this question - definitely don't let it interfere with what I hope is an excellent vacation.

At WP:RFP/A a request was added with User: prefixed. As a result the bot clerked it as a non-existent User:User:. The requester fixed the section header, and I fixed the transclusion of rfplinks. I also removed MusikBot's clerking in the expectation that would force it to re-clerk the correct username - but that hasn't happened. So, my question, what triggers MusikBot to clerk a request?

Thanks, Cabayi (talk) 09:34, 18 May 2017 (UTC)


 * The grant has been made without any clerking, so the non-rush is even less now. Thanks, Cabayi (talk) 17:58, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * If it didn't comment then the user met all qualifications, and there were no other issues detected with the request. The full list of functionality is at User:MusikBot/PermClerk. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:50, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Sorting in Revision history statistics
Hi, in X!'Tools Page history tab found under Revision history statistics link at History tab (example from cswiki) columns with fractional numbers are not sorted right: 40 gets sorted between 3.3 and 5.4. Could this be caused by comma/period delimiter issue (Czech language uses comma while X!'Tools uses periods) or are all those affected columns (%, atbe) sorted as strings? Regards --09:28, 18 May 2017 (UTC), Utar (talk)
 * Hey! This issue will be fixed in the new version of XTools which you can expect to be out in the coming months. Stay tuned! :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:52, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - Newsletter No.4
Hello ,

Since rolling out the right in November, just 6 months ago, we now have reviewers, but the backlog is still mysteriously growing fast. If every reviewer did just reviews, the  backlog would be gone, in a flash, schwoop, just like that!

But do remember: Rather than speed, quality and depth of patrolling and the use of correct CSD criteria are essential to good reviewing. Do not over-tag. Make use of the message feature to let the creator know about your maintenance tags. See the tutorial again HERE. Get help HERE.

Stay up to date with recent new page developments and have your say, read THIS PAGE. If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, go here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:43, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

May 24: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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Definition of Speedy Approval
Hi, I am a crat on Wikispecies and have a couple of bot requests for there that are being considered for speedy approval. They use AWB to do repetitive editing in short bursts. Both accounts were formerly doing this on their own main accounts but it was recommended to them to make bot accounts due to high volume. The content has been previously discussed and there is no issues with the edits being performed. In any case, I have never had to consider a bot for this type of approval. I would appreciate it if you would briefly tell me, or point me to an explanation, of what would permit you to speedily approve vs approve a bot. At present I am basically assuming it would mean to approve without trial as the main difference. Thanks in advance for your help. Cheers <font color="#004730">Scott Thomson ( Faendalimas ) talk 16:53, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Speedy approval (no trial) would be used for a case such as yours. More at Bot Approvals Group/Guide. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  20:25, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-21
<section begin="technews-2017-W21"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 May. It will be on all wikis from 25 May (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg There will be a  tag around HTML from the MediaWiki wikitext parser. Gadgets with code that does not follow recommendations could have problems with this. You can report new problems you think are related to this.

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Phabricator Task
Hi, I'd like to know if you have time to see this. Regards and Thanks. —<font color="#1406D0">Alvaro Molina (<font color="#137500">✉  - <font color="#137500">✔ ) 06:58, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't really know what the protocol is for granting rights on the beta cluster, so I'll leave it for someone who does. Sorry! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  13:43, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

What's the dealio with AWB approvals?
Okay, I just saw you approved someone for AWB who requested approval yesterday, not to mention all the other approvals of ones who've requested access after me. Some of us have been waiting a week like myself. I know there was some delay due to a leave of absence but that is over. Have I done something wrong in my request? I have over 2,000 non-automated edits. Did I not ask for the right reasons or not give enough information? If I am going to be denied, I would have preferred that happen right away, not being dragged on for so long. I have tried to be patient, but seeing today's approval is the last straw. Would sincerely appreciate some insight. Thanks! dawnleelynn (talk) 18:45, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The ones I've been responding to were more straightforward, while yours and others required more digging and evaluation. There's more to it than just checking if the prerequisites have been met. Fortunately it looks like I'm finally getting some help over there! :) So hopefully you'll get your yes/no soon. Apologies for the long wait &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  12:49, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply. I appreciate the explanation of the process, that is helpful. And I did not realize your circumstances. But, yes, someone yesterday asked me some more specific questions. I did get an approval today after I supplied the additional information yesterday. Glad you got additional assistance. Forgive if I was brusque. Again, I appreciate your assistance. I only work under deadlines on WP infrequently, so sometimes forget what that is like. Anyway, happy trails to you!  dawnleelynn (talk) 15:54, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

MusikBot bug
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:MusikBot/FilterMonitor/Recent_changes&oldid=782279078

There's some kind of unclosed span.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 20:14, 27 May 2017 (UTC).

Tech News: 2017-22
<section begin="technews-2017-W22"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * Last week’s MediaWiki version was rolled back from some wikis because of a problem. This means planned changes did not happen.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 30 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * You will be able to control who can notify you on the Wikimedia wikis. You will have a user blacklist. When you add a user to the blacklist you will not get a notification when they mention you. You can test this on Beta Wikipedia. You can read more and give feedback on Meta.

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Re:
Sorry for being late...handling brunodam is one of the boriest tasks of mine and I've been procrastinating job execution tooooooo long. --Vituzzu (talk) 20:26, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2017).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Doug Bell • Dennis Brown • Clpo13 • ONUnicorn
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg ThaddeusB • Yandman • Bjarki S • OldakQuill • Shyam • Jondel • Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC proposing an off-wiki LTA database has been closed. The proposal was broadly supported, with further discussion required regarding what to do with the existing LTA database and defining access requirements. Such a tool/database formed part of the Community health initiative's successful grant proposal.
 * Some clarifications have been made to the community banning and unblocking policies that effectively sync them with current practice. Specifically, the community has reached a consensus that when blocking a user at WP:AN or WP:ANI, it is considered a "community sanction", and administrators cannot unblock unilaterally if the user has not successfully appealed the sanction to the community.
 * An RfC regarding the bot policy has closed with changes to the section describing restrictions on cosmetic changes.

Technical news
 * Users will soon be able to blacklist specific users from sending them notifications.

Miscellaneous
 * Following the 2017 elections, the new members of the Board of Trustees include Raystorm, Pundit and Doc James. They will serve three-year terms.

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An issue
Musikbot stated that I didn't meet the prerequisites for a user right, even though I do. Gamebuster19901 (Talk║Contributions) 08:12, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * , the bot gave your current non-automated tally. It didn't say anything about prerequisites. It's my understanding that any user with <500 non-automated edits gets flagged in that manner. Primefac (talk) 11:51, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The edit summary stated that I had "unmet prerequisites". Gamebuster19901 (Talk║Contributions) 01:15, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Shows you how much attention I pay to edit summaries... Primefac (talk) 01:17, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I can change the edit summary. Internally these figures are known as "prerequisites" (same is true with the admin instructions), but in practice they are not. It is a guideline at best, it ultimately all falls on admin discretion &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:22, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

The future of NPP and AfC/Work group
Hi ,

In view of the huge and sudden backlog at Special:NewPagesFeed since mid 2016, the WMF has begun a dialogue in a quest to examine the situation and possible solutions. Please consider commenting there if you have not already done so. It is highly recommended to read it all before it becomes too long to follow. The project is at New pages patrol/Analysis and proposal, and its talk page. If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, go here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:57, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-23
<section begin="technews-2017-W23"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can see new files on Special:NewFiles. You can now pick which dates you want to see files from.
 * When you read Wikipedia on a mobile device the first paragraph now comes before the infobox.
 * You can now remove navigation elements from your results when you search. This could for example be part of an infobox that is only there to help you find the previous or next article.
 * New users on Wikivoyages and Wikipedias (except French, English and German) now get a notification when a page they created is connected to Wikidata. Other wikis will get it 13 June.

Problems
 * The MediaWiki version from two weeks ago was rolled back. It was fixed late last week. Changes that were planned to go out last week did not happen.

Changes this week
 * Wikimedia wikis can show fewer links to articles in other languages. This is to make it easier to find the languages likely to be useful to the reader or editor. Everyone can still click to see the full list. Logged-in users who use the compact language links will see languages they have in their Babel box on their user page in the first, shorter list. You can turn the compact language list off or on in your preferences.
 * You can choose what dates to look at when you look at a user's contributions.
 * When you click on your watchlist in the mobile view you get a list of all pages in the watchlist instead of the latest changes to them. Logged-in users with at least ten edits will now get the latest changes instead.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 June. It will be on all wikis from 8 June (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg String comparisons in Scribunto modules are now always done case-insensitively by byte order. Before they were sometimes in a case-sensitive US-English collation order. This could break some modules.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 6 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The 2006 wikitext editor will be removed the week of 27 June. This is the old toolbar with small square blue buttons. You can see a picture of it. 0.03% of active Wikimedia editors use this old tool. They will not see a toolbar at all.
 * Wikimedia wikis use OCG to create PDFs. The OCG code has a lot of problems and will stop working. It has to be replaced. An alternative is Electron. You can tell the developers what you need the PDF service to be able to do. Electron already works on German Wikipedia. It will be on English Wikipedia later this week so you can test it there too.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Architecture Committee will change and get a new name. You can read and comment on the draft that describes the new committee.

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Script fix
FYI: I fixed spamublock.js —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 07:58, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Nice! Thank you very much! :D &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:48, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 9 June 2017
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Tech News: 2017-24
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Recent changes
 * Some wikis have the larger and brighter OOjs UI edit page buttons. When you write an edit summary there you can now see how many bytes you have left before the summary is too long.
 * When you search on Wikipedia you can now find pages on other Wikimedia projects that could be relevant. You see them next to the search results.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 June. It will be on all wikis from 15 June (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 13 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * You will soon be able to get a notification when someone tries to log in to your account. You can test this on the test wiki. This will only work if they fail to log in to your account.
 * Wikimedia wikis use OCG to create PDFs. The OCG code has a lot of problems and will stop working. It has to be replaced. An alternative is Electron. You can tell the developers what you need the PDF service to be able to do. Electron now works on all Wikimedia projects.
 * Administrators can soon search for deleted page titles and find results that are similar to what they searched for. Today the search only finds pages that are exactly the same as what you search for. This is to make it easier to find pages when you don't know the exact title. Administrators on Arabic, Catalan, English, Persian, German, Italian, Polish, and Russian Wikipedia and on mediawiki.org can test this by adding  to the end of the web address when looking at Special:Undelete.

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Thursday June 22: Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon @ MoMA
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A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! Your input and help with this project has also not gone unnoticed, and is greatly appreciated :) I look forward to providing more stats soon &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:02, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Filter 860
Hi MA, I reenabled "warn" on this - we are giving out a lot of WP:VOA blocks on this, if they actually stop after a warning they get a pass right now. We are hoping this is a short lived attack. — xaosflux  Talk 00:45, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * See WP:EFN for current discussion - if this goes on for a few days, no issue with changing to block only. Basically, trying to avoid these people getting creative. —  xaosflux  Talk 00:50, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Replied there. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  01:07, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-25
<section begin="technews-2017-W25"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Problems
 * ORES had some problems on 13 June between 16:00 and 19:40 UTC. It has now been fixed.

Changes this week
 * has to be rebooted. This will probably happen on 21 June. It may be postponed. Some tools use this to get the recent changes feed. They will not work when it is down.
 * Octicons-tools.svg  will be an entry point for machine-readable page data.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 June. It will be on all wikis from 22 June (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 20 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg CSS in templates will be stored in a separate page in the future. You can now see how the TemplateStyles extension works on Beta Labs.

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Possible curation bug
Bothering you here over what is a relatively minor (and somewhat personal issue) rather than posting on one of the already too long NPP pages. I came across Pietro Campori, a a biography about a guy who was twice the runner up to be pope that I created yesterday. Page curation has him tagged as no citations, which is certainly not the case. Any idea what might be causing that? I don't want to start a phab task if there is already one on it. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:05, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Good catch! I don't believe this is a known issue. When I look at the page directly, Page Curation does not report any issues, but indeed at Special:NewPagesFeed it says "No citations". There is some caching involved, but it should be invalidated (I think) every time there's an edit to that page. If you could create a phab that'd be great. Thanks! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  01:19, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Done . There was literally no version of the page, draft or live, that didn't have a reference. It was in sfn format, which is my suspicion as to what causes the bug. Thanks for the review even though this isn't your area. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:24, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, that in fact is the issue! I will comment on the phab. Thanks for creating it &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  01:51, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

The bot is removing pp templates
Hello MusikAnimal! I have noticed that the bot has been removing the pp=yes template on some pages which are still under pending change protection, which is how I find out about it. Is this an error or am I not understanding what the bot is doing? Thanks, d.g. L3X1  (distænt write)   )evidence(  19:00, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I believe should be adding pp-pc1 or  and not pp by itself. Or, Template:Pp needs to be reworked so that it doesn't put the page in Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates when the page is under pending-changes protection. MusikBot goes off of that category and assumes pp by itself refers to normal edit protection. Pinging.
 * I have looked into this and found an issue with the API response in some cases. A normal API response, like this gives information about the type and level of protection. However, sometimes, some pages come back with a response like this which don't give any information about wetaher the page is autoconfirmed protected or pc protected. TheMagikCow (T) (C) 08:32, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Within MediaWiki, mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs (also known as pending changes) is not considered "protection", rather that a page is "flagged". You'll need to add to get this information |flagged&inprop=protection. Hope this helps &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  19:59, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
 * That's brilliant - thanks very much for that info. I will now implement that into the bot. TheMagikCow (T) (C) 08:24, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Also, not sure why this revert was warranted? The change looks constructive to me, and either way "Page is protected" is not a valid reason to reject it &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:24, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for explaining to me. d.g. L3X1  (distænt write)   )evidence(  19:39, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:MusikBot/StaleDrafts/Report
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The Signpost: 23 June 2017
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Speedy deletion nomination of User:MusikPuppet/Test page


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice that the page you created, User:MusikPuppet/Test page, was tagged as a test page under section G2 of the criteria for speedy deletion and has been or soon may be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:52, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-26
<section begin="technews-2017-W26"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The <inputbox> has a new  parameter. You can add values like  . It will add that to the user's search query.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 June. It will be on all wikis from 29 June (calendar).
 * Users will be able to choose whether they want to see Wikidata changes in enhanced watchlist/recent changes. Previously, this was disabled for everyone.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 27 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * You can join the next WMF Language team office hour, an open session to talk about Wikimedia Language projects. The meeting will be on 27 June at 13:00 UTC.

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nonautomated_edits
Hello, wish you in good health, I wanna ask if we can use this tool in ar.wikipedia? --<font size="3" face="Script MT Bold" style="color:black;">Alaa )..! 12:48, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I will get back to you on this. There is a new version of XTools that will be released soon, and it will include a non-automated edit counter that works for all wikis. However, it only looks for edits made using known tools, and the current list only accounts for those that are used on the English Wikipedia. I will try to add a way for users to request new tools be added, so that slowly over time it will be more useful on other wikis such as arwiki. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:36, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

X Tools
XTools is not reporting WPCleaner edits. '0' returned for one user who has made over 8,000 edits with it in the last month. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:09, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Which user? I will make sure this is fixed in the new version of XTools. The beta version will be released VERY soon! :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:21, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
 * It was User:AvalerionV who has made around 8,000 edits in just one month at the speed of a bot. Further investigation shows that it appears that except only 100 or so, they were made with WPcleaner script. It's possible, of course, that I'm missing something. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:59, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry if it's a bad thing using a bot to fix some minor issues in articles. >.> <span style="color: #0e0404;font-weight: bold;text-shadow: #a0a0a0 0em 0.1em 0.5em;font-variant: small-caps;">Dawood Khan 11:48, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * X-Tools returning blank results. E.g.: https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=Chrissymad&project=en.wikipedia.org Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:31, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * This happens every once in awhile, and when it does just check back in 5-10 minutes and it should work. It won't be a problem with the new XTools, which again will be released very soon! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:40, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-27
<section begin="technews-2017-W27"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * There was a problem with maps on Wikimedia wikis that used <mapframe> when you clicked on the link to another map service. Open Street Map or Google Maps are examples of other map services. If you had marked a place on the map the marker would not be in the same place on the other map service. It was in the middle of the map. This has now been fixed.

Changes this week
 * Very old and inactive unpublished translations in the Content Translation database will be removed. This is because of technical maintenance. If you have not worked on a translation after 1 January 2016 you will lose it after 6 July. If you want to keep the unfinished translation you need to open it before 6 July with the Content Translation tool. You can continue working on it later. Translations that were started or have been worked on after 1 January 2016 will not be affected.
 * There is no new Mediawiki version this week.
 * Octicons-tools.svg EventStreams is a new way to show activity on Wikimedia wikis. It works with the recent changes feed. It will do more things later. It will replace RCStream. Tools that use RCStream should move to EventStreams before 7 July. Tech News wrote about this in the 2017/07 issue.

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A message from Daanv
I think I am far more qualified to write about Cuaybeno than anybody else in the entire world. See my profiles: https://www.facebook.com/DrDaanVreugdenhil and https://www.linkedin.com/in/drdaanvreugdenhil/ and my co-authered document: http://www.birdlist.org/downloads/parks/estrategia_conservacion_areas_silvestres_sobresalientes_ecuador.pdf

I discovered processed and enlarged the area (original 150,000 ha to 600,000) but if you as a music maker chose to erase the contributions of a lifetime PhD conservationist, who processed the creation of the park, then I am not going to waste my time. Btw, what I wrote about the reserve is a fact: There is no other Amazon park in the Andes countries with plaines. That is what makes the reserve so special.

But a musician knows better, and my website score far better on cuyabeno than Wiki, so good luck with your rules. Funny to see that other lodges with far less authority are now allowed on your article.

Cheers, Dr. Daan Vreugdenhil

Daanv (talk) 20:52, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi ! The issue is not that you are not qualified to be writing about this subject, or that I somehow know more than you (I don't). Rather, the issue was the content lacked sources, and was a bit promotional in tone. Wikipedia is based solely on previously published information, hence why we never consider Wikipedia itself to be a "source". Rather, it's like an essay based on a collection of sources. I'm certain the content you added is factual, but the reader does not know that, or that you are an expert, apart from someone else who may be making things up entirely. That's why we have to add citations to reliable sources to back up the claims. You can learn more about why verifiability is important and how to add citations by reading the introduction to referencing. Hope this helps! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:48, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Possible bug in curation tool
Check this out please? I used curation tool for AfD, and it piggy-backed to a 2005 AfD. <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em; color:#A2006D;">Atsme 📞📧 20:35, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I can file a bug for this. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:50, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Six years of editing

 * Happy anniversary M. many many thanks for all that you have done here at WikiP in the last six years. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 01:35, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Aww, thanks! Though my first registered edit (by my first account) was just over 11 years ago :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  02:04, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Sunday July 9: WikNYC Picnic @ Governors Island
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Administrators' newsletter – July 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2017).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Happyme22 • Dragons flight
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Zad68

Guideline and policy news
 * The RFC discussion regarding WP:OUTING and WMF essay about paid editing and outing (see more at the ArbCom noticeboard archives) is now archived. Milieus #3 and #4 received support; so did concrete proposal #1.

Technical news
 * Fuzzy search will soon be added to Special:Undelete, allowing administrators to search for deleted page titles with results similar to the search query. You can test this by adding ?fuzzy=1 to the URL, as with Special:Undelete?fuzzy=1. Currently the search only finds pages that exactly match the search term.
 * A new bot will automatically revision delete unused file versions from files in Category:Non-free files with orphaned versions more than 7 days old.

Miscellaneous
 * A newly revamped database report can help identify users who may be eligible to be autopatrolled.
 * A potentially compromised account from 2001–2002 attempted to request resysop. Please practice appropriate account security by using a unique password for Wikipedia, and consider enabling two-factor authentication. Currently around 17% of admins have enabled 2FA, up from 16% in February 2017.
 * Did you know: On 29 June 2017, there were 1,261 administrators on the English Wikipedia – the exact number of administrators as there were ten years ago on 29 June 2007. Since that time, the English Wikipedia has grown from 1.85 million articles to over 5.43 million.

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A message from Jurr23
Hello, need some help, can you please tell, what is the easiest way to get top 100 rows from your tool "Topviews Analysis" to Google Sheets( in .csv format) directly and automatically from website?

Thanks! Jurr23 (talk) 13:37, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * (c.f. meta:Talk:Pageviews_Analysis/Archives/2016/3). — xaosflux  Talk 21:22, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I see that post is written almost year ago and i would like to ask is that download=true added for now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jurr23 (talk • contribs) 10:28, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, the option was never added, but for the same reasons I described in that post, I don't think this is the best way to offer such functionality. Instead I want to implement a backend that you can hit directly. I plan work on this soon, hopefully within the coming month or two. You can follow T157830 for updates. I assume you are aware you can manually browse to Topviews and download as CSV. Hopefully that will hold you off for the time being :) Sorry I cannot help you any further! &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  16:45, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, but i would like to ask another question: is there any sql sentence what gives the same information as there are in your tool "Topviews Analysis" from Mediawiki database? I myself thought that watchlist could help, but i am not sure because i got errors that this table does not exists? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jurr23 (talk • contribs) 08:02, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Pageviews data is not in the MediaWiki database, but rather offered by the Wikimedia REST API, specifically the /metrics/pageviews/top endpoint. The raw data given by it does not filter out known false positives or incorporate editing data. The latter is in the MediaWiki database, and could be fetched with a query like this. Topviews filtering data is in a private database but you might be able to use it's API. I'm not sure if it blocks cross-origin requests. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:15, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-28
<section begin="technews-2017-W28"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Recent changes
 * There are sometimes links to pages about the same thing on other Wikimedia projects. A Wikipedia article about Berlin can link to the Wikivoyage guide or Wiktionary entry about Berlin. You can now see when that page has a badge. A badge could be the star that shows that an article is a featured article.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Mobile users will be able to edit Wikipedia without JavaScript. This will make it possible to edit the wikis from older mobile phones. This will probably happen on 18 July for most wikis.
 * We will not use Tidy on Wikimedia wikis in the future. It will be replaced by June 2018. It could be earlier. Editors will need to fix pages that could break. You can read the simplified instructions for editors.

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Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:47, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Deleted &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:40, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

July 19: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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New Page Reviewer Newsletter
Hello, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update: Technology update:
 * The new page backlog is currently at 18,511 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a a day.
 * Some editors are committing to work specifically on patrolling new pages on 15 July. If you have not reviewed new pages in a while, this might be a good time to be involved. Please remember that quality of patrolling is more important than quantity, that the speedy deletion criteria should be followed strictly, and that ovetagging for minor issues should be avoided.
 * Several requests have been put into Phabractor to increase usability of the New Pages Feed and the Page Curation toolbar. For more details or to suggest improvements go to Page Curation/Suggested improvements
 * The tutorial has been updated to include links to the following useful userscripts. If you were not aware of them, they could be useful in your efforts reviewing new pages:
 * User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js adds a link to the new pages feed and page curation toolbar to your top toolbar on Wikipedia
 * User:The Earwig/copyvios.js adds a link in your side toolbox that will run the current page through

General project update:
 * Following discussion at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers, New pages patrol/Noticeboard has been marked as historical. Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers is currently the most active central discussion forum for the New Page Patrol project. To keep up to date on the most recent discussions you can add it to your watchlist or visit it periodically.

If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, go here. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:48, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 15 July 2017
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Tech News: 2017-29
<section begin="technews-2017-W29"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * "Wikimedia Labs" is now called "Cloud VPS". "Wikimedia Tool Labs" is now called "Wikimedia Toolforge". This is to help clarify the purpose of these services.

Problems
 * On some pages, the Table of Contents is not being shown. It will normally appear if you edit the page again. Investigation is currently ongoing.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 July. It will be on all wikis from 20 July (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 18 July at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is: Migrate to HTML5 section ids. The meeting will be on 19 July at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Page Previews, currently a Beta Feature, will be enabled for logged-out users for all remaining Wikipedias (with the exception of English and German) the week of 24 July. An A/B test will be run on English Wikipedia to collect data before approaching the community for further discussion.

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PERM
I see your helper script for New Page Reviewer to add new user group members to the mailing list has been disabled and a separate button put in its place. Admins are not using it and I'm finding myself having to clean up after them and add the names manually. Was there a reason for this change that I missed? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:51, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * It has not been disabled and should still be working. The "Update mailing list" link was added as a reminder for admins who aren't using the script, per this discussion &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:49, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Then I don't know, but I had to go through all the month's requests and add manually add about 10 to the mailing list. I also noticed that some users had not received the confirmation message either, but I just could not be bothered to do that as well. I think this could be information for your next admin newsletter. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:53, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2017-30
<section begin="technews-2017-W30"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg CSS in templates will be stored in a separate page in the future. This will make it easier to make templates look good on mobile devices. This now works on mediawiki.org and Wikitech. It will come to more wikis later.
 * Octicons-tools.svg  modifier class is deprecated and has been removed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * It will be possible to restrict who can send you notifications on a wiki. This new feature will accessible in your preferences, in the Notifications tab, on Wednesday, July 26. Please see the documentation.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the Wikimedia Foundation July 2017 Metrics & Activities Meeting. The meeting is about how Wikipedia and the Wikimedia movement are perceived and understood by the world. The meeting will be on at 19:00 (UTC). See the agenda and how to join.

Future changes
 * New Filters for Edit Review, at the moment available as a Beta feature, will be released by default for the Recent Changes in September.

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RfA

 * I had no idea that there would be 300 votes, but thank you for casting it. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  00:39, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:ACC notice
Template:ACC notice has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Barbara (WVS) ✐   ✉  12:10, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

User:MusikAnimal/Nightpedia.js
Hi MusikAnimal,

When I tried to use one of your scripts linked, it didn't work. I saw the Nightpedia link, clicked on it, got nothing. I use Google Chrome. -- 1989 00:22, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah sorry, it's been broken for a while... :( Fortunately I can tell you that you're not missing out on much, heh. I never really finished it. There is a similar and more complete script by available in Gadgets > Appearance > "Use a black background with green text". Give that a try. Hope this helps! &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  00:44, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Green on black skin needs some updating (re-skinning the edit form and T147667 fixed). With the short summer nights I haven't spent time on it.  I'd like to end up with something that can be easily palette swapped to more pleasing color (like your skin).  In the meantime, Stylish has a few skin, with Wikipedia Dark (ST) notable for have styles for table cells.  — Dispenser 18:47, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-31
<section begin="technews-2017-W31"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Problems
 * Some pages show the error . This problem happens on pages with a Lua module that uses Wikidata. The developers are working on fixing the problem. You can fix a page by opening it for editing and then saving without changing anything.
 * Wikidata and German Wikipedia could not be edited for an hour on 28 July. You can read why and how we could avoid it in the future in the incident report.

Changes later this week
 * Some wikis already have the larger and brighter OOjs UI edit page buttons. All remaining wikis except Commons will have these from 1 August.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 August. It will be on all wikis from 3 August (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 1 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The default font in the edit window will soon change for some users. Instead of using the browser default it will be monospace. Users can change this in their preferences. This should only change this for some users on Macs and iOS devices.

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Administrators' newsletter – August 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2017). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Anarchyte • GeneralizationsAreBad • Cullen328 (first RfA to reach WP:300)
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Cprompt • Rockpocket • Rambo's Revenge • Animum • TexasAndroid • Chuck SMITH • MikeLynch • Crazytales • Ad Orientem

Guideline and policy news
 * Following a series of discussions around new pages patrol, the WMF is helping implement a controlled autoconfirmed article creation trial as a research experiment, similar to the one proposed in 2011. You can learn more about the research plan at meta:Research:Autoconfirmed article creation trial. The exact start date of the experiment has yet to be determined.
 * A new speedy deletion criterion, regarding articles created as a result undisclosed paid editing, is currently being discussed (permalink).
 * An RfC (permalink) is currently open that proposes expanding WP:G13 to include all drafts, even if they weren't submitted through Articles for Creation.

Technical news
 * LoginNotify should soon be deployed to the English Wikipedia. This will notify users when there are suspicious login attempts on their account.
 * The new version of XTools is nearing an official release. This suite of tools includes administrator statistics, an improved edit counter, among other tools that may benefit administrators. You can report issues on Phabricator and provide general feedback at mw:Talk:XTools.

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A message from Djmelt
Djmelt (talk) 13:39, 2 August 2017 (UTC) Hi MusikAnimal, the page of Consumers Distributing is blocked for six months and generally it should be blocked only few days. Please unlock this page because we can't edit anything if we have something to edit. Thank you. Djmelt (talk) 13:39, 2 August 2017 (UTC) From Djmelt, August 2 2017.

Edit filter 860
Hello, I'd like to see if the following can be added to the edit filter in question. I do not have EFM rights and cannot make this change, but I would like to request that the filter be expanded to include talk pages as well. As an editor who has witnessed the vandalizing edit requests at Talk:Cheez Whiz before that page's eventual protection, this is a concerning issue for me among many other editors who look at these edit requests.

If this is not possible, can it be included in a separate edit filter that handles such edits? Thanks in advance, and please let me know if this has already been included or addressed. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 16:34, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Have you seen this disruption on other talk pages? I've got the filter to run on just Talk:Cheez Whiz for now, and have removed protection. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:19, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Sadly, this is the only page I've noticed this on. I suspect the reason behind the edit requests is due to a phrase that the individual in question made that mentioned the product. Something along the lines of "No, but I got Cheez Whiz!" jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 21:18, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 5 August 2017
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SQL help
Hi there. Thanks for the tips at meta. I currently use the API with a query like  to get all my contributions in the Wikipedia:-namespace. I wanted to try a quarry to get the same info but I noticed that the revision table does not store either the page name or the namespace. That seems to be in the page table which only holds the latest revisions. I think there is a way to create a query that combines searching both but my SQL is so rusty I cannot figure it out. Would you mind giving me another tip? Regards  So Why  19:55, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure thing! We just need to JOIN with the page table so we can get the columns of both. Check out query/20699. I also re-joined with revision so you can get the size of the edits. The revision table contains "rev_len" but this is just the overall size of the page at the time of that revision. Finally, I limited it to 500 edits so it'd go faster, but if you need all edits just remove the LIMIT clause at the bottom. Best, &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:28, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Unfortunately, now I'm hooked and will probably bother you some more For example, I think I understand the syntax now but I am baffled why this query doesn't work. Regards  So  Why  17:11, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries, I don't mind being bothered :) In the database, page titles always have underscores instead of spaces. So consider query/20702 &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:24, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * D'oh. I completely forgot. Thanks! Now I just need someone to give me access to the toolserver and I can try those queries with real scripts Regards  So  Why  18:19, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Everything you need to know can be found at wikitech:Help:Toolforge. Toolforge is the name of this service, by the way. Toolserver was shutdown in 2015 :) Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  23:16, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-32
<section begin="technews-2017-W32"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Recent changes
 * You can now see which Wikipedia language versions are read in a specific country. This tool is called Wikipedia Views Visualized.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Architecture Committee is now the Wikimedia Technical Committee. You can read the charter.

Problems
 * You can get an email when a page on your watchlist was edited. You can choose not to get emails for minor edits. There is a bug that means that you then don't get an email when someone does a normal edit after a minor edit. The developers are working on fixing this. Until it has been fixed you can activate "" at the bottom of "" in your preferences if you want to.
 * The thanks button sometimes didn't work for mobile users. This was because of a new bug and has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 August. It will be on all wikis from 10 August (calendar).

Future changes
 * Editors and readers who still use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP will not be able to use Wikipedia. Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP can't connect securely to the wikis. When we allow them to do so it means that we get less security for everyone else. If you use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP you can install Firefox 52 ESR instead. Around 0.1% of the traffic to the Wikimedia wikis comes from Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP.
 * Links to sections on Wikipedia don't work well in languages that don't use the Latin script. The URL in the address bar in your browser shows Latin characters like  instead of the section heading in the wiki's language. Links to sections in non-Latin scripts will be in the script of that wiki in the future. This will happen in the next few months.
 * Wiki pages printed by the web browser "Print" function will have an updated style. This new style will be similar to the when you download a page as PDF. It will be better at showing tables, infoboxes and headings.

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User:MusikBot/ECPMonitor/Report: List only when there is change
I noticed that my name was put on this list when I semi-protected Richard B. Spencer for editing. The reason seems to be that there was a previous move ecp still active that I did not change (and did not enact). It occurred to me that perhaps it's not desirable for things to work this way - I don't think someone not changing a protection parameter is quite the same as enacting or endorsing it, which I suspect is what we want the list to focus on. Thoughts? Samsara 14:46, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

The "Preview" section
Hi MusikAnimal, I was wondering if you could help with a technical problem. Maybe others have already brought it up. When I am editing, and I click on the "preview" button, the script reverts back to the top of the page (like it used to years ago), causing me to have to scroll down to find where I was editing. I assume this is now happening with everyone. Can it be repaired? Johnsmith2116 (talk) 10:40, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hmm yeah maybe that was a recent change, but this should be desired behaviour, no? The purpose of "Preview" is to review the content. It would then seem helpful that it auto-scrolls you to the content &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:39, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I think you're talking about two different things. OP is talking about the edit window, which used to stay at the line you were editing. Now, when you edit a big page somewhere in the middle, and hit "preview", it reverts to the top of the edit window instead of staying where the last edit was made. Primefac (talk) 14:47, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I meant the edit window, sorry. It really would help if it would stay in place to save time and effort. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 19:18, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Bah, I see. Hmm, I don't know if that's a new bug or what. I tried searching on Phabricator but didn't find an existing task, but I can help you write a new one :) I would first bring this up at WP:VPT, though. People there might know more, when it started happening, etc. Also, I highly recommend User:Anomie/ajaxpreview, which will not only make previewing faster, but will also retain your scroll position in the edit window &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  20:14, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-33
<section begin="technews-2017-W33"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Recent changes
 * Bureaucrats can now set users as confirmed. Previously only stewards could do this on most wikis. Nothing will change for wikis that have previously decided to let administrators set users as confirmed.

Problems
 * The symbols in the language list that show that an article is good or featured in that language doesn't work. Links to the Commons category in the sidebar doesn't work either. The developers are working on fixing it.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 August. It will be on all wikis from 17 August (calendar).

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A beer for you!

 * It was a blast! So glad I got to hang out with THE ! :) See you in Cape Town, I hope! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  01:25, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Auto confirmed to Confirmed.
Hi, I have applied at Requests for permissions/Confirmed thrice but every time it says already done.I have 150+ edits and have more than a years experience on wiki although for the first 8 months or so, I was inactive but after that I have been active continuously. Kindly help.Thank you. Bingo bro (Contributions)
 * Autoconfirmed and confirmed are one and the same. Go to Special:Preferences and look for "member of groups" under "Basic information", and you should see "Autoconfirmed users". What is making you think you are not confirmed? Is there a page you are unable to edit? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  13:56, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yup, I can't edit a few pages such as Cars (franchise) and some others. Any more requirements needed? Any problems? Please help. Bingo bro (Contributions)   —Preceding undated comment added 14:02, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Nope, you should definitely be able to edit that page. Do you see a "View source" tab instead of "Edit"? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:11, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Nope, it says view source and a few other pages show im just fine. Im new here so thought it was some difference between Confirmed and Autoconfirmed. Bingo bro (Contributions)
 * FYI, my autoconfirmed user, Xaosflux_ep works right when trying to edit that page. — xaosflux  Talk 15:54, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Well for starters, I see you're using Twinkle, which only (auto)confirmed users can use. I'm not sure what to tell you... we could try manually confirming your account, but that literally will make no changes to your already autoconfirmed account. Could you try the link Xaosflux provided that directly goes to the edit interface ? Have you enabled any gadgets? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:04, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

So, I've stopped using twinkle still no change! And the lin once opened says this page is semi protected so that only autoconfirmed users can edit it.Well I am autoconfirmed? Then why this? .I've even removed my user page's Twinkle top icon. Bingo bro (Contributions)
 * For what it's worth, xtools shows that you're autoconfirmed. I suppose it would be possible to manually add you as "confirmed" (it won't actually change anything) but clearly the fact you're able to use Twinkle means you're in the system as autoconfirmed. Try clearing your cache, logging out, and then logging back in? Primefac (talk) 14:03, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I've tried everything you mentioned but still no help? Bingo bro (Contributions)   —Preceding undated comment added 14:16, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I've temporarily added the confirmed flag to your account for the purposes of debugging. Let me know if you are now able to edit Cars (franchise) and others. Please try within the next 24 hours, afterwards the confirmed status will automatically be removed (but you will still be autoconfirmed) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  20:45, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes,finally I'm able to edit thank you! Bingo bro (Contributions)   —Preceding undated comment added 10:24, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hmm OK, well I'm still going to let the confirmed flag expire. This is standard procedure, where we removed "confirmed" from any autoconfirmed account. I'm currently at Wikimania, so if come tomorrow are still having problems, I can talk to some other tech folks here and further debug this issue. Glad to hear you can edit for the time being, though! :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:35, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * If you ask me, this is likely because you didn't purge your cache. Try emptying your cache next time.— CYBERPOWER  ( Chat ) 14:38, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The user said they see the "View source" tab instead of "Edit". This does not involve JavaScript or templating, rather the check on user permissions happens on the backend at runtime and sets the markup accordingly, so I doubt it's related to caching. Certainly doesn't hurt to try, though! Bingobro, see Bypass your cache on how to do this &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:42, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Normally yes, and when applied via permissions, is immediately accessible. However autoconfirmed happens automatically, and when I was autoconfirmed, I couldn't edit semi-protected pages until my cache was purged.— CYBERPOWER  ( Chat ) 15:14, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

God!, really? now even the bypass your cache article says View Source when opened it says this article is semi-protected so, only auto confirmed users can edit it.And no improvement still view source.Although thanks everyone. Bingo bro (Contributions) I'm still not able to edit semi protected pages. Bingo bro (Contributions)   —Preceding undated comment added 08:48, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I really don't know what to tell you :( At one point yesterday, your account had the "confirmed" flag, and you said you cleared your cache and the "View source" tab appeared again. So we know for sure the issue is not with permissions on your account. Looking at Special:PrefixIndex/User:Bingobro/, it seems you have no user scripts installed. The only thing I can think of is that there's some conflicting gadget, so let's try loading Cars (franchise) in safemode. Do you see an "Edit" tab? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:06, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Well, yesterday when I had the Confirmed flag I was able to edit the Cars (franchise) article however the clear your cache article still said view source. Bingo bro (Contributions)  15:16, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Bypass your cache is semi-protected, just like Cars (franchise). If you can edit one, you should be able to edit the other. Did safemode work for you? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:19, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Nope, not even safe mode. I think i'll just leave it and continue to edit unprotected pages. Bingo bro (Contributions)  15:25, 13 August 2017 (UTC) Ok, forget what I said and also forgive me for it.I really need some help here!. Bingo bro (Chat)  15:25, 14 August 2017 (UTC) I went down to Request for permisions/confirmed to seek help again by another admin or something and all I got was your bots automated response.Please help you really are my last hope! Bingo bro (Chat)  15:25, 16 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Aw, thanks! It was my utmost pleasure to assist you, and I'm sorry I wasn't able to figure it out. The folks at VPT are already on to something, it seems. You're not the only one with this problem! I hope it gets sorted out! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:08, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

COI - of a different kind
Hi. Because it involves New Page and AfC reviewers along with other maintenance workers (SPI, COIN), an informal chat has begun on some aspects of paid editing. See Conflict of Interest - of a different kind. Please add your thoughts there. It is not a debate or RfC. From WP:NPPAFC. Opt-out. Sent by  MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:24, 20 August 2017 (UTC) .

Tech News: 2017-34
<section begin="technews-2017-W34"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Recent changes
 * You can now test the new Timeless skin on the test wiki and mediawiki.org. You can turn it on in your preferences. You can report bugs in Phabricator. It will come to more wikis soon.
 * Your watchlist can now have the option to unwatch pages. You have to turn this on in your preferences.
 * If a table has several columns you can often choose which column you want to use to sort the table. This has not worked for some columns for readers who have used Firefox or Safari. This has now been fixed.
 * The RelatedArticles extension has shown related pages on Wikivoyages. You will now see the related pages at the end of the article together with an image. Previously the links were in the sidebar. Wikis that want this extension can request it on Phabricator.

Changes later this week
 * Videos will now be played in the WebM format in all browsers. Previously some browsers used Ogg Theora (.ogv). If you use Safari, Internet Explorer or Edge you may see slower playback speed at high resolutions. Instead we will get better quality and smaller file size. You can still upload video as Ogg files. They are automatically converted to WebM. This doesn't affect Ogg audio files.
 * The default font in the edit window will change for some users this week. Instead of using the browser default, it will be monospace. Users can change this in their preferences. This should only change this for some users on Macs and iOS devices.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 August. It will be on all wikis from 24 August (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 22 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Hello, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update: Technology update: General project update: If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, go here. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:33, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The new page backlog is currently at 16,991 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a a day.
 * has created a NPP browser in WMF Labs that allows you to search new unreviewed pages using keywords and categories.
 * The Wikimedia Foundation Community Tech team is working with the community to implement the autoconfirmed article creation trial. The trial is currently set to start on 7 September 2017, pending final approval of the technical features.
 * Please remember to focus on the quality of review: correct tagging of articles and not tagbombing are important. Searching for potential copyright violations is also important, and it can be aided by Earwig's Copyvio Detector, which can be added to your toolbar for ease of use with this user script.
 * To keep up with the latest conversation on New Pages Patrol or to ask questions, you can go to Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and add it to your watchlist.

Tech News: 2017-35
<section begin="technews-2017-W35"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Syntax highlighting is now a beta feature on Wikimedia wikis with text written from left to right. It will come to right-to-left wikis later. This beta feature is based on CodeMirror.
 * You will now get a notification when someone tries to log in to your account and fails. If they try from a device or IP address that have logged in to your account before you will be notified after five failed attempts. You can turn this off or choose to get an email notification in your preferences. You can also turn on to get an email when someone logs in to your account from a new device or IP address.

Problems
 * Some pages show the error . This problem happens on pages with a Lua module that use Wikidata. This has now been fixed and no new pages will get this problem. You still need to fix pages that were broken before and still show the error message. You can see how on this page.

Changes later this week
 * You can block users from sending you notifications.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 August. It will be on all wikis from 31 August (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 29 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the next meeting with the Technical Committee. The topic this week is Migrate to HTML5 section ids. The meeting will be on 30 August at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * In the future you will have global preferences. This means you could set something in your preferences to work in the same way on all wikis. You will not be forced to use global preferences. The developers are now asking if editors need exceptions. This is where you want to use global settings on almost all wikis, but have some wikis where you want it to work in a different way. If you want this you need to tell the developers now. You can do so on the talk page.
 * New filters for edit review is a beta feature to improve recent changes pages. It will work on watchlists from 5 September.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The jQuery library will be upgraded to version 3 in September 2017. Wikis can ask on Phabricator to get it early, so they can help find and solve problems now.

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Metrics for reuse on Commons?
Hi, Sam Wilson suggested I get in touch. I work at the University of Edinburgh as the Wikimedian in Residence and library staff there have suggested they would be more inclined to share content to Wikimedia Commons if there were extra metrics for the images reuse. Knowing who is downloading the image and where the downloaded image is being reused/shared elsewhere on the internet is obviously too much like surveillance but wondered if number of clicks on an image (to enlarge for instance) or number of downloads (people choosing to save by right click 'Save as' or via download link etc) could be measured? Is this something you could advise about? Apologies if I'm barking up the wrong tree. Cheers, Stinglehammer (talk) 19:05, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey! Sorry for the late reply. The Analytics team does offer data on how many times an image or static media was downloaded or viewed at full size, and also how many times audio/video files were played. The raw TSV files for this can be found at dumps.wikimedia.org. I'm not aware of any tool that can visualize the image data, but for audio and video there is commons-video-clicks and the upcoming T149642. Hope this helps! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:54, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

StaleDrafts
Would you be able to have you bot update the StaleDraft report daily for a while? With G13 expanded to cover everything on that report, the report is shrinking. More frequent updates would help rid the report of deleted pages as well as postponed and refunded pages that are no longer G13 eligible. That would make it much easier to work with until the backlog is reduced.. Thanks in advance. Thanks. Legacypac (talk) 03:38, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Done! It is now running daily &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:54, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

those 54 ips
If you're converting all of them to 1-year blocks, you got your work cut out for you. I saw Katie blocked a few ranges for two years; isn't that an easier option? Drmies (talk) 00:38, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Someone's running a bot that monitors recent changes, and reverts everyone's edits? My last two spelling corrections were nearly instantaneously reverted by an IP. Can't get any work done if that can't be controlled. – wbm1058 (talk) 00:48, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yep, I was just blocking to get more IPs to show up and discover more ranges. Mostly thanks to Katie I think it's slowed down. I'll continue to monitor. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  00:51, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * My pleasure! And thanks for the WikiLove :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:11, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

SQL help: All AfDs from a certain date?
Hi there again. After creating my AFD closes script, I was wondering about creating a script to analyze who are the main people involved in closing AFDs for a certain day but I am not really sure how to get a list of AFDs to analyze. Is there a way to find out which pages are transcluded instead of linked to using the pagelinks table? I tried this query but it is not limited to transclusions. Thanks in advance! Regards  So Why  18:42, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I think you want the templatelinks table :) See query/21179 for the modified query. If you're trying to get the AfDs for a specific day, I'd use a direct equality comparison of the page title rather than using LIKE &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  00:48, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the updated query. I didn't know there was such a table, that does make it quite easier of course :-) Regards  So Why  06:51, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Can I trouble you with another question? I tried working on my deletion analyzer script but I am struggling with a way to handle the huge logging table efficiently. Trying to grab a single day's deletions using this query takes quite a long time but I cannot think of a better way to limit the results to certain dates. Trying this query within a script on my local install always leads to a 504 error Can you think of a better (more efficient) way to grab those deletions? Regards  So Why  19:29, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The replicas differ from production in that they have different indexing. This is very annoying but thankfully there is a guide, see wikitech:Help:MySQL queries. So in our case we want to find log entries made by a specific user, so we'll use logging_userindex. That should make it significantly faster. Another tool I heavily rely on is Hedonil's SQL optimizer. This doesn't tell you how to improve your query but it will tell you if it is inefficient. There if you copy your query using logging, you'll see the EXPLAIN suggests it will scan 68,277,806 rows!!! With logging_userindex, you're down to just 36,690 rows :) Note that in a normal MySQL-ish environment, you can run EXPLAIN [your SQL] directly to get this info, but EXPLAIN is not available to end users on Toolforge. Hedonil's tool does some special magic to surface the same information &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  20:38, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much. That does make it quite simpler of course! Regards  So  Why  06:17, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I created the first alpha version here, check it out if you are interested. Feedback is always welcome Regards  So  Why  21:27, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Remove rights
I will no longer use my alternative account GTAlt. Can you please remove all user rights from that account except "extended confirmed"? I am asking you since you were the one who added the rights on 1 December 2016. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 01:52, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Done &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  03:36, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

A goat for you!
I feel you deserve it. Thank you for blocking those irritating zombie proxies.

Sro23 (talk) 22:02, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  13:57, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

ANI
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. 24.91.248.60 (talk) 14:59, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

A message from Tornado chaser
There is a user who has a custom "user infobox" on their userpage, this infobox contains the following line: "|girlfriend     = Yes" "yes" links to a BLP, is this a violation of policy? The user also says they are unmarried as a protest for LGBT people, making it seem like they do have a girlfriend. Also the link to their email says don't count on a response unless you'r Kirsten Dunst. I don't know weather this is all a harmless joke or a BLP issue (unverifiable/false info on who a living person is dating) (I asked you because your an admin who is active at the time). Tornado chaser (talk) 16:06, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Tornado chaser (talk) 16:06, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2017). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Nakon • Scott
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Sverdrup • Thespian • Elockid • James086 • Ffirehorse • Celestianpower • Boing! said Zebedee

Guideline and policy news
 * ACTRIAL, a research experiment that restricts article creation to autoconfirmed users, will begin on September 7. It will run for six months. You can learn more about the research specifics at meta:Research:Autoconfirmed article creation trial, while Wikipedia talk:Autoconfirmed article creation trial is probably the best venue for general discussion.
 * Following an RfC, WP:G13 speedy deletion criterion now applies to any page in the draftspace that has not been edited in six months. There is a bot-generated report, updated daily, to help identify potentially qualifying drafts that have not been submitted through articles for creation.

Technical news
 * You will now get a notification when someone tries to log in to your account and fails. If they try from a device that has logged into your account before, you will be notified after five failed attempts. You can also set in your preferences to get an email when someone logs in to your account from a new device or IP address, which may be encouraged for admins and accounts with sensitive permissions.
 * Syntax highlighting is now available as a beta feature (more info). This may assist administrators and template editors when dealing with intricate syntax of high-risk templates and system messages.
 * In your notification preferences, you can now block specific users from pinging you. This functionality will soon be available for Special:EmailUser as well.

Arbitration
 * Applications for CheckUser and Oversight are being accepted by the Arbitration Committee until September 12. Community discussion of the candidates will begin on September 18.

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X-Tools
is loading a lot of unwanted characters. Mainly hash signs, swuare brackets and curly brackets. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 19:37, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

ACTRIAL deadline in 5 DAYS
Thank you for the admin newsletter. As you are on Horn's team, can we assume from this that the Foundation is on schedule for the 7th? We have had no recent communication from them on this point. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 22:46, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm on the same team but very much out of touch of what's going on ACTRIAL-wise. I did hear today that we got the OK from the security team on the Article Creation Workflow extension, so we're on track for the 7th &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  22:48, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. In the meantime Danny  has also confirmed that  they  are on schedule. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:18, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Email (Subject: vpngate.net)
Hi,

Just so you know, I normally edit under IP addresses, but I recently made an account in order to email you some information regarding the recent abuse coming from open proxies/VPN usage. Also (and most importantly), thanks for all that you're doing here... :-)

–Conkird (talk) 04:23, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Filters 803 and 34
What is the purpose of these filters? If you look at my abuse log, I've been blocked by each one already performing anti-vandal work. Filter 34 prevented me from blanking a talk page constituting promotion (I had to comment out the content instead). Filter 803 blocked me from tagging a user page as a WP:NOTWEBHOST violation.

Also, why is filter 34 private? Filter 33, which appears to do the same thing, is not. 24.91.248.60 (talk) 18:32, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * 803 disallows any new editor from editing someone elses user page. This was a result of a giant RfC that I can't dig up right now. You should see the filter message explaining this when you attempted to save. 33 and 34 are for similar purposes, it would seem, but you're right they are very similar and could probably be combined. I don't know why 34 is private, but I can poke some people about it. Surely you understand the bulk of disruption and harassment originates with new accounts and logged out users, so sadly they often are caught in a filter when in actuality they are doing no harm. That being said, here I don't think there were any false positives, it was just an unfortunate consequence. I'm not in the slightest suggesting you should register an account, but I can say it offers many benefits and you'll find you aren't subject to restrictions imposed by filters like the ones you've mentioned &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:16, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I have now created an account. Pillowfluffyhead (talk) 23:56, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * And another false positive from an anti-sock filter. Again, these filters are way too broad. Pillowfluffyhead (talk) 15:19, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:EF/FP is the correct venue to report false positives. I did not author that filter, either, sorry. On the subject of filters, it was a little hard to ignore this exchange where you apparently again assumed that just because a user tripped a filter, they must be in the wrong. As you've personally experienced, false positives definitely happen, so don't assume otherwise, especially given you're unable to see the filter.At any rate, I very much appreciate your dedication to fighting vandalism. Once your account is automatically confirmed (two days from now), I recommend turning on Twinkle in your gadget preferences. This will help your work considerably. Then, after a few hundred edits of fighting vandalism, we can grant you rollback and you can use more powerful tools like Huggle :) In the meantime, please do report any issues you run into with edit filters. It sucks people fall victim to false positives, but it's people like you that help ensure they happen less often. Regards &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:29, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

YGM
Pillowfluffyhead (talk) 21:40, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Meow! You're awesome.

Pillowfluffyhead (talk) 11:57, 3 September 2017 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>

Wikipedia:FAKENEWS listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Wikipedia:FAKENEWS. Since you had some involvement with the Wikipedia:FAKENEWS redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Timothy Joseph Wood 16:57, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-36
<section begin="technews-2017-W36"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News
 * We are asking Tech News readers five questions to make the newsletter better. You can answer the questions here. We are grateful for every reply we get.

Recent changes
 * The RevisionSlider user interface has changed. You can now select revisions by clicking on the bars. You can move the blue knob past the yellow one and the yellow one will move along, and the other way around.

Problems
 * Some users have problems loading very large watchlists. It is working better than earlier but the problem has not been solved. The developers are working on fixing it. Until it has been fixed you can turn on "" in your preferences and see if it helps.

Changes later this week
 * New filters for edit review is a beta feature to improve recent changes pages. It will work on watchlists from 5 September.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 September. It will be on all wikis from 7 September (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 5 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can see a presentation about and discuss the new Technical Committee on 5 September at 17:30 (UTC). There will be a presentation on YouTube and a discussion in  on Freenode. You can use the web chat.

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The Signpost: 6 September 2017
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Xtools timecard
Hello! I understand that you are a maintainer of Xtools. I'm looking for the documentation for the Xtools timecard, which is part of the general user statistics. I haven't been able to find it on toolforge, Phabricator, or elsewhere! I'm hoping to look at the documentation, potentially contribute, and also look into what data I can get from it. Any info you can provide on where to find the timecard documentation would be appreciated! Hexatekin (talk) 01:09, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Well first let me make sure you're referring to the new XTools, which is at https://xtools.wmflabs.org. It is still in beta but we're close to an official release. Documentation lives at https://xtools.readthedocs.io, specifically tools/editcounter.html#timecard for the timecard. Not a whole lot there but maybe it is of some help. Any contributions to the documentation (or the code!) is most welcome :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  01:16, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

File:WikiFilterLogo.png
Hello MusikAnimal...Not so long ago, was recently updated. For some unknown reason, the topicon of your user page has not updated when I'm on the computer. However, I can see the updated version on your user page with my Iphone. I also have the image displayed on my user page showing the updated version both on computer and phone, however, when I clicked on the image file from my user page, it shows the 2015 version. Do you have similar issues? — JudeccaXIII (talk) 22:03, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I see the new version, yes. This sounds a lot like this issue (permalink). I had the same problem with that image, where I could see it on the article, but it wasn't shown when I clicked on it. I recall this same issue happening to someone else maybe a year ago, so I don't think it's anything new. I'm going to comment on the VPT discussion about this &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  22:17, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-37
<section begin="technews-2017-W37"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can get a notification when a page you created is connected to a Wikidata item. You can choose to get these notifications in your preferences. Some wikis already had this option. It is now available on all wikis.
 * The Newsletter extension is now on mediawiki.org. The newsletter extension is for newsletters where you can subscribe by getting a notification when a new issue has been published. It will come to more wikis later.
 * The Linter extension helps you find technical errors in articles. There is now a new high-priority category: . This usually affects templates with horizontal lists. You can read more about using Linter and the Tidy whitespace bug.

Problems
 * Tech News 2017/36 reported about new filters for edit review coming to watchlists. This was planned to happen last week. It will happen next week instead.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 September. It will be on all wikis from 14 September (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg OOjs UI will be updated. This could affect some icons. You can read more about the changes.

Meetings
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 12 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * You can't use OCG to create PDFs after 1 October. This is because of technical problems. You can use Electron instead. Most PDFs are already created with Electron. Electron will get missing features before 1 October. You can create books but they will not have all planned features until November or December. You can read more on mediawiki.org.
 * New filters for edit review are available now on recent changes as a beta feature. Some of those filters and other features will be deployed as default features in the coming weeks. Users will be able to opt out in their preferences.

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A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! :) Though I must give the bulk of credit to Hartman, who informed us of a working solution. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:30, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Achraf Baznani
Dear MusikAnimal, Please restore Achraf Baznani's page, I will edit it. The artist is well known, I have many informations to add to his wikipedia page. Thank you! 105.155.64.71 (talk) 20:21, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * See User talk:MusikAnimal/Archive 9. The old article will not be restored, and the mainspace title will remain protected. You are however free to create a draft &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:09, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

September 27: WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting
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 * P.S. On the weekend before the annual meeting, you can join: Action=History @ Ace Hotel (Sunday, September 24, 2017)

MusikBot duplicate TAFI notices
Hello there! I noticed that MusikBot is posting duplicate WP:TAFI notices at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Food and drink (see diff 1 and diff 2), and just wanted to bring this to your attention. Cheers, -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:22, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

RfD
Hi! At Redirects for discussion/Log/2017_September_14 you !voted for a redirect to WP:Zimdars' fake news list, but after you !voted I presented an argument against doing that, and none of the !votes after that were for that redirect. The MfD has been relisted. Would you be so kind as to re-examine the MfD and see if the arguments put forth after you !voted might cause you to reconsider? --Guy Macon (talk) 02:47, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-38
<section begin="technews-2017-W38"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can now see contributions from an IP range at Special:Contributions. Before you could only see contributions from single IP addresses. Some older contributions from IP ranges could be missing at first because it will take some time to add them.
 * Flow has been re-scoped to become Structured Discussions and the development has restarted. Phabricator projects and repositories have been renamed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 September. It will be on all wikis from 21 September (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 19 September at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 20 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * We are replacing Tidy on Wikimedia wikis. Editors need to fix pages that could break. You can read the simplified instructions for editors. Some wikis have already switched. If your wiki would like to switch to the new format now, you can file a task.

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New Page Reviewer Newsletter
Hello, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update: Technology update: General project update: If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, go here. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:16, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The new page backlog is currently at 14304 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a day.
 * Currently there are 532 pages in the backlog that were created by non-autoconfirmed users before WP:ACTRIAL. The NPP project is undertaking a drive to clear these pages from the backlog before they hit the 90 day Google index point. Please consider reviewing a few today!
 * The Wikimedia Foundation is currently working on creating a new filter for page curation that will allow new page patrollers to filter by extended confirmed status. For more information see: 
 * On 14 September 2017 the English Wikipedia began the autoconfirmed article creation trial. For a six month period, creation of articles in the mainspace of the English Wikipedia will be restricted to users with autoconfirmed status. New users who attempt article creation will now be redirected to a newly designed landing page.
 * Before clicking on a reference or external link while reviewing a page, please be careful that the site looks trustworthy. If you have a question about the safety of clicking on a link, it is better not to click on it.
 * To keep up with the latest conversation on New Pages Patrol or to ask questions, you can go to Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and add it to your watchlist.

The Signpost: 25 September 2017
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Tech News: 2017-39
<section begin="technews-2017-W39"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Wikitext syntax highlighting is a beta feature on Wikimedia wikis with text written from left to right. This beta feature is based on CodeMirror. You can now search through the entire article with +  or  +  when you edit. Before it just searched through a part of the article. The developers are also fixing a couple of other bugs.
 * Administrators on wikis that use Structured Discussions as a beta feature or by default can now create and move Structured Discussions boards. Structured Discussions was previously called Flow.

Changes later this week
 * You now get a notification when someone tries to log in to your account and fails. If they try from a device or IP address that have logged in to your account before you will be notified after five failed attempts. For security reasons you will soon get an email by default when someone tries to log in to your account and when someone logs in to your account from a new device or IP address. This can be turned off in your preferences.
 * Users with extremely old browsers (for example Netscape 2–4, released from 1995–1997) which do not support Unicode will no longer be able to edit. They should try to install a new browser.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 September. It will be on all wikis from 28 September. (calendar).

Meetings Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 27 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.


 * The Wikimedia Foundation Readers department has proposed changing the mobile website. You can read more on mediawiki.org. This would be a big change.
 * You can't use OCG to create PDFs after 1 October. This is because of technical problems. You can still create PDFs. Tech News 2017/37 said the function to create PDFs from books would still work. It is now clear it will not work for the next few months. The developers are working on fixing this. You can read more on mediawiki.org.

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MusikBot posted to redirect page
MusikBot recently posted a notice to a redirect page. I've moved it to the redirect's target, but you might consider updating the bot to detect and follow redirects itself in future. Mitch Ames (talk) 01:21, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll look into this, thanks! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:11, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Holiday abroad
Template:Holiday abroad has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:26, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2017). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Boing! said Zebedee • Ansh666 • Ad Orientem
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Tonywalton • AmiDaniel • Silence • BanyanTree • Magioladitis • Vanamonde93 • Mr.Z-man • Jdavidb • Jakec • Ram-Man • Yelyos • Kurt Shaped Box

Guideline and policy news
 * Following a successful proposal to create it, a new user right called "edit filter helper" is now assignable and revocable by administrators. The right allows non-administrators to view the details of private edit filters, but not to edit them.
 * Following a discussion about mass-application of ECP and how the need for logging and other details of an evolving consensus may have been missed by some administrators, a rough guide to extended confirmed protection has been written. This information page describes how the extended-confirmed aspects of the protection policy are currently being applied by administrators.

Technical news
 * You can now search for IP ranges at Special:Contributions. Some log pages and Special:DeletedContributions are not yet supported. Wildcards (e.g. 192.168.0.*) are also not supported, but the popular contribsrange gadget will continue to work.

Arbitration
 * Community consultation on the 2017 candidates for CheckUser and Oversight has concluded. The Arbitration Committee will appoint successful candidates by October 11.
 * A request for comment is open regarding the structure, rules, and procedures of the December 2017 Arbitration Committee election, and how to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.

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Tech News: 2017-40
<section begin="technews-2017-W40"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can now use preload features in the visual editor. This means you can create links to create new pages and some text will already be in the edit window when someone clicks on it.

Changes later this week
 * If you have turned on "" you will now get the 2017 wikitext editor. Before this you had to turn it on manually even though it is a beta feature.
 * Special:Block and Special:Unblock will get the OOUI look.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The jQuery library will be upgraded to version 3 on all Wiktionary wikis from 2 October. It will be on all non-Wikipedia wikis from 4 October. It will be on all wikis from 5 October.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 October. It will be on all wikis from 5 October (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 3 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * A new feature called Reading Lists are coming to the Wikipedia mobile apps. First it will be in the Android version. Reading Lists are a private user preference where you can see lists of articles on multiple devices. You can give feedback on this feature.
 * The search function has used fallback languages for language analysis. This means a language could be analysed with the grammar of a completely unrelated language to find related words. This will be removed from most wikis the week starting with 9 October. You can read more and give feedback.

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Hello!
Hi MusikAnimal - I'd like to ask you some questions about the new edit filter helper right, if that's OK. I'm interested in applying for the right in the foreseeable future; would it be helpful for somebody like myself, who engages in anti-vandalism work and helps out at UAA? Would it help me to better spot sockpuppets, and report them, for instance? Secondly, will I have to sign the confidentiality agreement? I turn 18 this month, so I am more than willing to do so (until then I can't sign it), as I have a sound knowledge of what it means to keep matters confidential (without going into details on-wiki, I have some real-life experience in dealing with confidential matters). I do have some REGEX knowledge, although it is very basic and I won't jump into doing anything I know I can't do. So, in conclusion, do you think I am ready? Thanks in advance, and enjoy the rest of your day. :) Patient Zerotalk 13:11, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * It just lets you see the logs. Most anti-vandal filters are public, so no, I do not think you present a compelling use-case. You're not missing out on anything, I promise. There should never be a moment where you think, "am I ready?". This is not rollback. You won't be able to "do" anything with EFH &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:27, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * That's OK, understood - thanks for your reply. Take care! Patient Zerotalk 10:22, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Special:AbuseFilter/852
Unfortunately I've just seen that they're back. Would it be possible to reenable it? Cheers, Number   5  7  19:51, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Done &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  00:11, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-41
<section begin="technews-2017-W41"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The number of active users listed by  and on Special:Statistics will now only include Wikidata edits as activity on Wikidata and not on other wikis too.
 * Previously you could create wiki links starting with two colons. Now you need to use one colon. :File:X.jpg now has to be File:X.jpg . There is now a new Linter category. You can see a list on Special:Linterrors/multi-colon-escape. The Linter extension helps you find technical errors in articles. You can read more about using Linter.

Problems
 * You will not be able to edit or upload files to Commons for around 30 minutes on 11 October. This will start at 06:00 UTC. This is because of work to let Commons show 3D models.

Changes later this week
 * The font in the edit window is monospace by default. Today you can change preferences to another font family or use "the browser default" instead of monospace. Switching to the browser default has only changed the font on Macs. The option to use browser default will be removed this week.
 * If you want to print a page or make a PDF of a page you can do so in the side menu. The way the pages look when you do this will change. You can read more on mediawiki.org.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 October. It will be on all wikis from 12 October (calendar).

Meetings
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Protected templates
Shouldn't these templates with "thousands of transclusions" be set to Template protection ? Just asking :P -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 17:11, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I did that for the templates with 5,000+ transclusions. The others it could be debatable whether template protection is appropriate (e.g. where are the templates are used? Are they frequently edited by non-template editors?). Giving them at least semi is better than nothing, so I'm just doing that for now &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:21, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * , WP:HIGHRISK allows unilateral indefinite semi-protection of templates with 1000+ transclusions but TE requires a bit more scrutiny (and more transclusion) so I'd support the current actions taken (particularly with all the vandalism recently). Primefac (talk) 17:23, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Okey, dokey. Thank you both. -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 17:26, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

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Tools format
Dear MusikAnimal,

When I likened your work to the shades of blancmange 'Twas a jocular, but méfiable mensonge; But 'tis true (to my eye) that the old shades of red Were more crisp and succinct than the shade which instead You have rendered so thickly, in broad crossing line To the bars which the monthly endeavours define (So one sees without scrolling but three or four months Where of old one compared many more at a glance) And the blob-charts revealing the hours of my labour Are bulging, each button too close to its neighbour, The colours of pastel, canary and green, In co-ordinate artifice cover the screen, And if to a syllabub I did compare 'em, 'Twas the jest, or the groan, of an old harum-scarum, And nothing I said was design'd to offend: And this, be it hoped, all offences will mend. But chiefest of all, in the list of top edits (found near the foot of the series of credits) The inclusion of pages in Userspace names Puts a lot of informal old work into frames And brings into focus and ready access Things for eyes unintended, and other such mess From the old Wikipedia days, when discretion Was not so considered as now, when profession And care more judicious is taken to what Should be found on the internet, and what should not. Yet in case it should seem that I only complain, Pray think me not thankless, nor wishful to pain, For doubtless the X-Tool is greatly improved By your latest additions and faults now removed, And if your aesthetics go a trifle too far, Still the World may applaud with a ringing "Hurrah!" Eebahgum (talk) 11:03, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * First off, thank you for the amazing poem! :D Now, let me make sure I've got all of your concerns accounted for:
 * The bars of the month/year charts are too big. There will be a new version released probably tonight/tomorrow (my time) that will make this smaller, so I'll get back to you.
 * The "Top edited pages" isn't broken down by namespace. We just fixed this today, so hopefully all good there :)
 * The bubbles of the timecard chart are too big. For this, I assume your screen size is smaller than mine, because the bubbles are not overlapping for me. This is still an issue, though. They should stay proportionate when the screen size is smaller. I've created T177898.
 * There is some concern around the colours? This part I was not able to extract from your beautiful poem, so please elaborate :)
 * Anything else?
 * Thanks for the feedback. It is always welcome, good or bad! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  00:45, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * So relieved at your kind response! Thankyou. I do apologize for my excess of language at Gerda's page, which had partly humorous intention. My reservations about the colour will be resolved by the adjustments in sizes as it will feel less immersive. It was old sandboxes etc. appearing in the final list that troubled me, but you are on the case. Thanks again. It's such a helpful tool. BTW, do you have an opinion about these occasional one-off huge peaks of page-viewing? I suspect some sort of automated data-capture. (It's 3.00 am here, so my poet-self has nodded off....). With kind regards, greetings, Eebahgum (talk) 02:22, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

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Incorrect removal of protection templates after moves
The bot incorrectly removes protection templates with "removing as page is not -protected" for the edit summary after protected pages are moved. This happened in Special:Diff/801836655 and Special:Diff/804955477 after the moves to "Zxcvbnm" by Anthony Appleyard and "Sanju(Film)" by Jack Shukla respectively, for example. What caused this bug with the bot to occur, and how can it be fixed? GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 22:46, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The "not -protected" in the edit summary is totally a bug (should say "edit-protected"), and that has been there for a while, I just haven't gotten around to fixing it :/ As for removing the template, the bot first goes off of Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates, and sometimes double-checks the protection state in the API. I think what happened here is both were cached and MediaWiki just didn't catch up with the page move by the time the bot did its run. Not sure what I can do... maybe check if the page was recently removed, and if so wait say 30 minutes before attempting to check the protection level &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  23:09, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Musikbot
Hello, can you design Musikbot for Azerbaijani wikipedia? We would really appreciate as we are strugling to archive links.--Azerifactory (talk) 03:38, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Perhaps! It depends on what you're archiving. For normal everyday discussions, User:ClueBot III or User:Lowercase sigmabot III are probably better options. MusikBot mainly handles archiving of discussions at WP:PERM, which have a unique format &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  03:41, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Edit counter issue
I happened upon the most edited "User talk" pages here Is User talk:TheStrayDog supposed to be formatted the same way in the edit counter as the real talk page's title is formatted? I can't tell whether that's deliberate or not. Huon (talk) 22:24, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * , it would appear so, given that my own stats are quite colourful. Primefac (talk) 01:30, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Each namespace has its own unique colour. The colours were borrowed from Supercount (with permission). I agree for Biografer the high-edit count in the User talk namespace has produced a very vibrant appearance... It's nearly burning my retinas! =P I think we should reconsider the colours, but I'm not sure how to do approach this. The old colours offered a very dull experience, especially for the mainspace which in most cases is the most popular. You'll notice the smaller pie charts in the "General statistics" section are more of a pastel colour. This is the new colour scheme we'd like to go by... especially because it is colourblind-friendly. Unfortunately the palette we've prepared only offers 10 colours, when we are dealing with at least 32 namespaces. I'm going to try to see if we can extend the palette, but this might mean the colours will not translate to the old ones. In your opinion, does the colours->namespace correlation matter that much? In other words, if you saw the mainspace (articles) in a pastel blue, would you be confused (because they used to be red) -- even with the legend on the left side? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  07:47, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * MusikAnimal, we're talking about the Top Edits, where the formatting of the User talk "title" is shown instead of just normal formatting. I did notice the change in pie-chart colours, but haven't found it to be an issue (yet!). Primefac (talk) 11:57, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Indeed. In Primefac's list of edited user talk pages, "User talk:kikichugirl" is lowercase and purple. "User talk:SwisterTwister" is black and partly bolded. "User talk:KGirlTrucker81" is dark bolded pink on a bright pink background. That's the same formatting as for the page title on the respective user talk pages themselves. Article titles in the edit counter are italicised when there's a italic title on the respective article, and so on. Is that deliberate? Wouldn't it make for a cleaner look to use the same formatting for page titles trhoughout the edit counter tool? Huon (talk) 13:27, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry for my misunderstanding. Yes, it was deliberate! It goes off of the WP:DISPLAYTITLE. Is this no good? I was unsure myself. In a way it's kind of cool, especially for mainspace articles where movie titles are supposed be italicized, etc. (as opposed to user page titles, which are formatted just for fun), but I can see how this could be distracting. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:06, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Personally I don't mind, though I obviously can't speak for Huon. Most people don't go nuts with their talk page titles like they do with their sigs, so as long as it doesn't show that styling like Dispenser does, I'm happy. Primefac (talk) 19:24, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Kindly provide a copy of a deleted page.
Hi, this time its no technical issue I just needed a copy of the deleted Confident Airlines article. I plan to use the copy and develop it into an article with better ref's in my sandbox. Thanks! Bingo bro  (Chat)  12:30, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-42
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Recent changes
 * When you edit a template with the visual editor it follows the template's  configuration on how to save it. You can now change the format in more powerful ways if your wiki wants it.
 * The TwoColConflict extension is a new way to solve edit conflicts. It makes it easier to copy and paste the relevant text to the text field. It has been a beta feature for the last five months. You can now try out the new interface on a page where you will actually get simulated edit conflicts. You can give feedback to the developers.

Problems
 * There is a problem with recent changes pages and your watchlist that show a large number of pages. Until it is fixed, Wikidata edits will not be shown on recent changes or in your watchlist on Commons or Russian Wikipedia. If necessary, Wikidata edits will be removed from all wikis.
 * Notifications are not working for some actions. For example some users don't get a notification when they are mentioned. The developers are working on fixing this.
 * Users on some wikis could not change their preferences. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Editors and readers who still use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP will not be able to use Wikipedia from 17 October. Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP can't connect securely to the wikis. When we allow them to do so it means that we get less security for everyone else. If you use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP you can install Firefox 52 ESR instead. Around 0.1% of the traffic to the Wikimedia wikis comes from Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 October. It will be on all wikis from 19 October (calendar).

Meetings
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Filter 31
I had sent you an email regarding adding exceptions but I just wanted you to know that RF implemented them. Thanks a ton anyway. :) G'day. --<span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Geneva,sans-serif"> QEDK ( 愛  •  海 ) 18:59, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

A message from Haverbemashber
Hi! As one of the active maintainers of XTools I was hoping you could help me. One of the statistics of the 'Page history' tab in Xtools is "Reverted edits" (under general statistics). I wanted to know if there's any way of extracting this statistic for a number of articles automatically. Say by some way of listing the articles names (maybe in a pagepile or something..) as an input and getting each article's revert number as an output. Also, if it isn't too much to ask, could you tell me how you calculate the number of reverted edits? I mean, what counts for a reverted edit? This is for academic use and could save me A LOT of time. Many thanks in advance!

Haverbemashber (talk) 05:20, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The reverts are detected via edit summary of the edit that followed it (e.g. "Undid edit by..."). The better way to do this is probably to compare the  field in the   table. We do not have an API to get this information from an article because it requires parsing every revision, which would be too slow for an API. If you are able to write your own application, I would recommend going off of  . You are also free to borrow from our regular expressions, just look for entries that have  . Hope this helps &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  22:30, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Hehe you'll notice from my RfA voting history that I always aim to be the 100th, 200th, 300th, etc. It doesn't always work, and I have to cheat, and sometimes people revert me, but this time I got it fair and square! :D Thanks for the WikiLove &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:02, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Template:Holiday
I saw your concerns regarding holiday and the loss of holiday abroad. I did my best to keep the same functionality, and now 2 (which can also be called country) has been added. This means that should give almost the same result as  (and it's fewer chars!). holiday Turkey If that looks good, I'll go ahead and redirect the latter into the former. Primefac (talk) 18:38, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 * It doesn't show the country's flag, but that's fine. Thanks for doing the work in trying to please picky people like me :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:47, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Well that's an easy fix! Primefac (talk) 18:56, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Awesome! Looks great. Thanks again :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:12, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Newsletter
Hello, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update: Technology update: General project update: If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, go here. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:47, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * The new page backlog is currently at 12,878 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a day.
 * We have successfully cleared the backlog of pages created by non-confirmed accounts before ACTRIAL. Thank you to everyone who participated in that drive.
 * Primefac has created a script that will assist in requesting revision deletion for copyright violations that are often found in new pages. For more information see User:Primefac/revdel.
 * The Article Wizard has been updated and simplified to match the layout style of the new user landing page. If you have not yet seen it, take a look.
 * To keep up with the latest conversation on New Pages Patrol or to ask questions, you can go to Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and add it to your watchlist.

Thank you for supporting the Sustainability Initiative!
Hi MusikAnimal,

Thank you for supporting the Sustainability Initiative, which aims at reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement. There are currently over 350 supporters from all over the world – please encourage other community members to sign the page as well! You can also read an update from the Sustainability Initiative in the most recent edition of the Wikipedia Signpost.

Thank you, and kind regards, --Gnom (talk) 11:46, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 23 October 2017
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Tech News: 2017-43
<section begin="technews-2017-W43"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes Changes later this week
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can use  when you create an abuse filter. This can be used to look for multiple words or phrases within a string. It will find words where some characters have been replaced. You can read more in the documentation.
 * When you search in some languages the search function could use specific other languages if the first language didn't work. This is called a fallback language. This didn't work properly and created bad searches. The search index is being fixed to work better.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 October. It will be on all wikis from 26 October (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 24 October at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 25 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * There is a Structured Commons community focus group for Commons and Wikidata contributors who want to give input on structured data on Wikimedia Commons. You can sign up to join it.

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Large sockfarm
Recently you blocked several socks. However, you missed quite a few accounts: I have no clue who the sockmaster is; it's probably a much older LTA. Maybe has an idea? Sro23 (talk) 23:44, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I saw those but wasn't certain they were socks. Do you mind explaining the behaviourial evidence? I'm not very familiar with the case, and from a CU standpoint I could only say at best &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  00:58, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * They are all new accounts WP:STALKing WWGB, either reverting his edits (example: ) or making an inconsequential change to a page after he edits it. Sro23 (talk) 01:01, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * All blocked, plus several others. was the oldest account I found &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  01:54, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

OTRS - possibly in your baliwick?
I wonder if you could take a glance at: ticket:2017102610010514

I am sure you have more insight than I have whether the request is plausible.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  21:13, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * , this was (briefly) discussed at AN, and I started a few conversations at regarding the issue, and the short answer was "no we cannot". Maybe MusikAnimal knows something the others didn't, but that's how I've closed the two or three other OTRS tickets I've seen with the same issue. Primefac (talk) 12:15, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I've replied and closed that ticket with some info I thought might help. Embarrassingly, this was the first ticket that I've ever closed! Since I got access last month, I just haven't had a chance to help out at all. Thanks for the ping, I needed that push to get me started :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:14, 27 October 2017 (UTC)