User talk:My Pants Metal/Archive 1

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My Pants Metal, good luck, and have fun. – —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:31, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Speedy tagging
This was too speedy. You literally tagged this article for "no content" within 1 minute of its creation. New editors often drop minimal text on a page as a "placeholder" while they draft their article. (Unnecessary, of course, but a common newbie mistake.) By tagging the article for speedy deletion, you may well discourage the editor from completing their draft. Such speedy tagging, especially when applied to new users, is considered harsh and can discourage new participants. I generally wait at least 15 minutes after an article has been created to see if the author is going to expand it with any valuable information. The only exceptions are blatant spam, obvious copyright violations, and defamatory content, all of which must be dealt with as quickly as possible. But aside from those three situations, the 15-minute rule seems to work well. Happy editing. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:29, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Understood. Thanks for the advice. I'm (somewhat) new around here (I say 'somewhat' because I edited anonymously and only recently decided to register) so I apologize for my mistake. I'll try to slow down the tagging of speedy deletions :) --My Pants Metal (talk) 12:33, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * A follow-up question for you, WikiDan. Let's say User:JoeSmith creates a page called 'Joe Smith' and only says something like 'Joe Smith is an actor' or 'Joe Smith is an athlete' or whatever. Do you still wait the 15 minutes to see if anything else gets added or do you tag it for speedy deletion since the user appears to be creating a page about himself? Again, sorry for the newbie questions. Just trying to learn and help out. --My Pants Metal (talk) 13:02, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Generally yes. Creating a page about oneself is discouraged, but not actually disallowed. The material that may be forthcoming from Joe Smith about his acting / athletic / ... career may well prove him a notable person. Not likely, but there's no rush. Remember, with most things at Wikipedia, there's no deadline, so there's no need to rush to delete material that, while clearly not meeting inclusion criteria, is also clearly not harming anyone. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:08, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Exactly what I needed to know. Thanks so much! --My Pants Metal (talk) 13:25, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Yet here i am seeing the exact situation happen to myself on two articles I created i didn't invest too much time in my drafting them. I am a new editor and this situation did discourage me to use the site because you marked my article for deletion within two minutes of me getting started. I see from the awesome information by @wikidan61 to not post unfinished articles in the novice fashion i previously did.. but if it wasnt for him i would just stop trying. DjNassah (talk) 22:52, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Two different scenarios. In the scenario Wikidan presents, I tagged an article with no content for speedy deletion too quickly, when an editor could possibly add additional info. Your article was clearly an autobiography and made no claims of significance. It was going to get deleted no matter when it was tagged. Please read WP:NBIO, WP:RELY, WP:COI, WP:NAU and WP:AUTOBIO. And for what it's worth, I didn't tag the second article you created. That was another user (probably for the same reason I tagged your first article). --My Pants Metal (talk) 23:06, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * "It was going to get deleted no matter when it was tagged" I contested it but didnt want to bother investing that much time when i can take the stress-less route that Wikidan mentioned the only reason why you decided it was a obvious autobiography was because my account name and if i may reference the above "Generally yes. Creating a page about oneself is discouraged, but not actually disallowed. The material that may be forthcoming from Joe Smith about his acting / athletic / ... career may well prove him a notable person" I feel it is aggressive and discouraging. Thank you for the articles i will read them im a new editor so im just tryin to post things of significance that are within the guidelines. Also i should apologize i didnt mean to suggest you tagged two articles DjNassah (talk) 23:18, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * After re-reading what I wrote, I probably shouldn't write or edit when I'm overly tired or stressed from work. Firstly, I do apologize if I discouraged you from editing Wikipedia. That was not my intention; it's just Wikipedia has a set of guidelines as to what can be an article and what can't. Was I too aggressive and tag your article too quickly? Perhaps I did and I apologize. But on the flip side, I encourage you to check out the Article Wizard on creating your first article and to see if it meets notability guidelines. I sincerely hope you do stay here and contribute. If I came off as a bully or condescending, I'm sorry. Wasn't my intention. Hope you do stay here. --My Pants Metal (talk) 13:22, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
 * In addition, I will voluntarily take a temporary break from new-page patrolling until I get more experience in Wikipedia. In light of this, and the issue User:WikiDan61 presented to me about a month ago, I feel like I need to learn the ropes a bit more. I will instead resort to cleaning up hockey-related articles (I have my work cut out for me with the new season coming up soon) and reverting vandalism. --My Pants Metal (talk) 13:30, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Difference between proposed deletion and AfD?
I'm wondering exactly what the different is between proposing an article for deletion or nominating an article for deletion. When is it appropriate to use one but not the other? My Pants Metal (talk) 14:12, 4 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Proposing an article for deletion, or PRODing an article, is used when the article does not meet the speedy deletion criteria, but there isn't any reasonable objection or argument that could be made for keeping the article (uncontroversial deletions). AfD is used when there is a significant level of doubt for deletion of an article. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 14:23, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response. So when in doubt, articles should be sent to AfD for discussion on whether or not they should exist? --My Pants Metal (talk) 14:25, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Exactly. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 14:26, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help! --My Pants Metal (talk) 14:27, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Watch for copyright violations
Please be sure to watch for copyright violations when patrolling new articles. This is one of the steps listed at New pages patrol (where you'll find detailed instructions as to how to detect copyright violations), and it's very important. Thanks, and let me know if you have any questions. — Diannaa (talk) 21:55, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for this, ! I'll be sure to take a look at that. I'll ping you if I have any questions. --My Pants Metal (talk) 21:58, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Kim Possible
Thanks for the reverts, it's the same vandal as earlier, I already requested re-protection at RFPP as the previous protection expired on August 1. nyuszika7h (talk) 17:05, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem! I was just doing some recent changes patrolling and noticed the page being re-directed. I wasn't aware there was a vandal earlier doing the same thing. Had I known, I probably wouldn't have given the vandal so many warnings :P --My Pants Metal (talk) 17:07, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Rollback granted
Hi My Pants Metal. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=&page=User%3AMy_Pants_Metal enabled] rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback: If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see New admin school/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! Widr (talk) 21:22, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
 * Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
 * Rollback should never be used to edit war.
 * If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
 * Use common sense.

Question from IP user
hoe can k get involed in wp more thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.50.75.150 (talk) 17:09, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure what you're referring to. Can you elaborate? My Pants Metal (talk) 21:32, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

University Campus Aylesbury Vale & Rebecca Bunting
Hi there, We are digital team from Bucks new university and we own the copyright of ucav.ac.uk as it's our sister concern. We just created the wikipedia page and noticed it has been deleted for copyright infringement. Please give us a call on [redacted] and can speak to digital team or Public Relations team. We also published a wikipedia page for our Vice Chancellor, Prof Rebecca Bunting and that page has also been deleted. We do have consent from Prof Rebecca Bunting to publish her wikipedia page and she herself drafted the copy. Please reinstate both pages. You can write to us on digital@bucks.ac.uk. Much appreciated, Bucks New University Digital Team. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BucksDigital (talk • contribs) 15:03, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I do not work for Wikipedia. I contribute to this site voluntarily, as many others do. If you own the copyright, please see WP:DONATETEXT and follow the guidelines there. I am not an administrator so I do not have the rights to re-instate pages. You should get in touch with the administrator that deleted the pages. --My Pants Metal (talk) 15:12, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Question from DJ21384
I'm sorry i'm still trying to figure out how to properly use this site. also I tried to contact another user to help resolve me Deletion error, I was trying to update my page so it will not be removed and you messaged me. is it OK if I go back and edit the page I created now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ21384 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * You may edit the page, just don't remove the speedy deletion template. If you think a page shouldn't be deleted, click on the "Contest This Deletion" button on the template and provide a reason. --My Pants Metal (talk) 18:37, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I will warn you that the page will most likely get deleted. Wikipedia has specific policies on what can and cannot have an article. For a person to have their own Wikipedia page, they must meet general nobility guidelines. Also, since you're writing about yourself, please see WP:AUTOBIO. Autobiographies are strongly discouraged, and Wikipedia is not a place to advertise or promote your YouTube page. Check out WP:FIRSTARTICLE to learn how to properly create a Wikipedia page. --My Pants Metal (talk) 18:42, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Question from User:BrooklynDon8
hey i sent you a message and i would like to know the new tony ade page that i contributed should be deleted. I provided adequate citation, one of which is a report of an interview from an official White House news reporter. So i'm not really understanding why the article was nominated for deletion.

Please further explain. Thanks a lot! — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrooklynDon8 (talk • contribs) 14:57, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * First off, if this is an article about yourself, please see WP:AUTOBIO. Writing about yourself is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. Secondly, the sources you provided were not reliable sources. One was a Blogspot page, the other was a website that appeared to be a gossip website. These are not reliable sources since they are not fact-checked for accuracy. For further information, please read Wikipedia's policies on identifying reliable sources. --My Pants Metal (talk) 17:55, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Why did you ask for speedy deletion on my smackdown live 23/08/16 page — Preceding unsigned comment added by GamerKid9000 (talk • contribs) 18:37, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Why did you delete my page
why did you try and delete my Smackdown Live 23/08/16 page. It was not a copy of WWE Smackdown it was about one of the certain shows GamerKid9000 (talk) 18:44, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I did not delete the page. Only administrators can do that. I simply requested it be deleted because it fell under certain criteria. Each Smackdown Live episode does not need its own article. Wikipedia is not a directory or electronic program guide. Some TV episodes do have their own article, but they must meet certain nobility requirements. --My Pants Metal (talk) 18:46, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm gonna do it every week so can you just leave me and my pages alone. People want to know the results and what happen because it provides info for the upcoming payperviews. Some people cannot watch it so they can read my page to find out excalty what happened. More people will use wikipedia if these pages coz they wont have to go on random websites to find raw and smackdown results. If this should be deleted then every single Payperview should be deleted because these provide results just like those pages GamerKid9000 (talk) 18:57, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Question from Somebldy
Hello why do you keep on re doing my edits about the koh I noor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Somebldy (talk • contribs) 11:45, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I only undid one of your 5 edits to that page, and I did it because it was vandalism and unconstructive. --My Pants Metal (talk) 11:46, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

NPP
Hi. We appreciate your enthusiasm but new page patrolling is not a task for beginners. Faizanjamali is patently obviously Hindi written in Roman scrpt and not unintelligible nonsense. When you have significantly more experience, you can read WP:NPP and begin patrolling again. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:57, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Thing is, I pasted that text into Google translate and it didn't come up as Hindi, which is why I tagged it as such. Saying it's "obviously Hindi" is a bit of a stretch for someone who is unfamiliar with the Hindi language (such as myself). --My Pants Metal (talk) 14:05, 9 September 2016 (UTC)


 * I don't have the foggiest idea about Hindi either - it's usually written Devanagari (that's the one that looks like washing hanging on the line), but it took me 12 seconds in Google to find out what it was. That said, please hold off patrolling pages until you have read and fully understood the instructions - NPP is currently in such a mess that it needs to be done properly or not at all. There are plenty of other maintenance task you could be helping out with which you would probably be very good at.. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:31, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Casey Fitzgerald (ice hockey) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Casey Fitzgerald (ice hockey) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Casey Fitzgerald (ice hockey) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Joeykai (talk) 07:00, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

User group: New Page Reviewr
Hello.

Based on the patrols you made of new pages during a qualifying period in 2016, your account has been added to the " " user group, allowing you to review new pages and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or in some cases, tag them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed.

New page reviewing is a vital function for policing the quality of the encylopedia, if you have not already done so, you must read the new tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the various deletion criteria. If you need more help or wish to discuss the process, please join or start a thread at page reviewer talk. The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In case of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, the right can be revoked at any time by an administrator. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:34, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Be nice to new users - they are often not aware of doing anything wrong.
 * You will frequently be asked by users to explain why their page is being deleted - be formal and polite in your approach to them too, even if they are not.
 * Don't review a page if you are not sure what to do. Just leave it for another reviewer.
 * Remember that quality is quintessential to good patrolling. Take your time to patrol each article, there is no rush. Use the message feature and offer basic advice.

New Page Review - newsletter
Hello ,


 * Breaking the back of the backlog

We now have New Page Reviewers! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog. Now it's time for action. If each reviewer does only 10 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work! Let's get that over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.

Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work. Read about it at the new Monitoring the system section in the tutorial.
 * Second set of eyes

With some tweaks to their look, and some additional features, Page Curation and New Pages Feed could easily be the best tools for patrollers and reviewers. We've listed most of what what we need at the 2016 WMF Wishlist Survey. Voting starts on 28 November - please turn out to make our bid the Foundation's top priority. Please help also by improving or commenting on our Wishlist entry at the Community Wishlist Survey. Many other important user suggestions are listed at at Page Curation. Sent to all New Page Reviewers. Discuss this newsletter here. If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself from the mailing list. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:16, 26 November 2016 (UTC) .
 * Getting the tools we need - 2016 WMF Wishlist Survey: Please vote

Concerning the speedy deletion of : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divided_We_Fall_(video_game)
Hi My Pants Metal,

I've reviewed your feedback and reasons why you've recommended the speedy deletion of this article. I've rewritten large portions of it so that it's in a more neutral stance, as well as rewritten the copywritted text.

I hope this is enough for you to revoke the speedy deletion of this article. Please let me know if there are anymore issues.

thanks in advance

--Blazy008 (talk) 09:26, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

BBC 12-hour Editathon - large influx of new pages & drafts expected
New Page Reviewers are asked to be especially on the look out 08:00-20:00 UTC (that's local London time - check your USA and AUS times) on Thursday 8 December for new pages. The BBC together with Wikimedia UK is holding a large 12-hour editathon. Many new articles and drafts are expected. See BBC 100 Women 2016: How to join our edit-a-thon. Follow also on #100womenwiki, and please, don't bite the newbies :) (user:Kudpung for NPR. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:55, 7 December 2016 (UTC))

New Page Review - newsletter #2
Hello ,


 * Please help reduce the New Page backlog 

This is our second request. The backlog is still growing. Your help is needed now - just a few minutes each day.


 * Getting the tools we need

Sent to all New Page Reviewers. Discuss this newsletter here. If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself from the mailing list MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:55, 11 December 2016 (UTC) .
 * Improve the tools: Vote here.
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New Page Review - newsletter No.2
Hello , We now have New Page Reviewers! Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October. The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work! It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to. Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten. This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody,  and
 * A HUGE backlog
 * Second set of eyes
 * Abuse
 * 1) this very recent case of paid advertising by a Reviewer resulting  in  a community ban.
 * 2) this case in January of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting in  a community ban.
 * 3) This Reviewer is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.

Coordinator election
Kudpung is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at NPR Coordinators; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later. Discuss this newsletter here. If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself from the mailing list MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:11, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review-Patrolling: Coordinator elections
Your last chance to nominate yourself or any New Page Reviewer, See Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Coordination. Elections begin Monday 20 February 23:59 UTC. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:17, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.3
Hello , Voting for coordinators has now begun HERE and will continue through/to 23:59 UTC Monday 06 March. Please be sure to vote. Any registered, confirmed editor can vote. Nominations are now closed. We now have New Page Reviewers but despite numerous appeals for help, the backlog has NOT been significantly reduced. If you asked for the New Page Reviewer right, please consider investing a bit of time - every little helps preventing spam and trash entering the mainspace and Google when the 'NO_INDEX' tags expire. Discuss this newsletter here. If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself from the mailing list. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:35, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Still a MASSIVE backlog

New Page Review - Newsletter No.4
Hello ,

Since rolling out the right in November, just 6 months ago, we now have reviewers, but the backlog is still mysteriously growing fast. If every reviewer did just reviews, the  backlog would be gone, in a flash, schwoop, just like that!

But do remember: Rather than speed, quality and depth of patrolling and the use of correct CSD criteria are essential to good reviewing. Do not over-tag. Make use of the message feature to let the creator know about your maintenance tags. See the tutorial again HERE. Get help HERE.

Stay up to date with recent new page developments and have your say, read THIS PAGE. If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, go here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:43, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Newsletter
Hello, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update: Technology update:
 * The new page backlog is currently at 18,511 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a a day.
 * Some editors are committing to work specifically on patrolling new pages on 15 July. If you have not reviewed new pages in a while, this might be a good time to be involved. Please remember that quality of patrolling is more important than quantity, that the speedy deletion criteria should be followed strictly, and that ovetagging for minor issues should be avoided.
 * Several requests have been put into Phabractor to increase usability of the New Pages Feed and the Page Curation toolbar. For more details or to suggest improvements go to Page Curation/Suggested improvements
 * The tutorial has been updated to include links to the following useful userscripts. If you were not aware of them, they could be useful in your efforts reviewing new pages:
 * User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js adds a link to the new pages feed and page curation toolbar to your top toolbar on Wikipedia
 * User:The Earwig/copyvios.js adds a link in your side toolbox that will run the current page through

General project update:
 * Following discussion at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers, New pages patrol/Noticeboard has been marked as historical. Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers is currently the most active central discussion forum for the New Page Patrol project. To keep up to date on the most recent discussions you can add it to your watchlist or visit it periodically.

If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, go here. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:48, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Newsletter
Hello, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update: Technology update: General project update: If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, go here. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:33, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The new page backlog is currently at 16,991 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a a day.
 * has created a NPP browser in WMF Labs that allows you to search new unreviewed pages using keywords and categories.
 * The Wikimedia Foundation Community Tech team is working with the community to implement the autoconfirmed article creation trial. The trial is currently set to start on 7 September 2017, pending final approval of the technical features.
 * Please remember to focus on the quality of review: correct tagging of articles and not tagbombing are important. Searching for potential copyright violations is also important, and it can be aided by Earwig's Copyvio Detector, which can be added to your toolbar for ease of use with this user script.
 * To keep up with the latest conversation on New Pages Patrol or to ask questions, you can go to Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and add it to your watchlist.