User talk:Mychele Trempetich/Archive 1

Welcome!
Welcome to Wikipedia, Mychele Trempetich! I have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on or by typing helpme at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Oh yeah, I almost forgot, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on, or place helpme on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! Dougweller (talk) 07:43, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
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Tiamat
Hi Mychele, I've had to remove the D&D image from the Tiamat article because we can only use it "for commentary on the character or characters in question," - the D&D character that is, so basically it can be used in the D&D article but not in the Tiamat article. Sorry about that, don't let this discourage you, there's always a learning curve in Wikipedia and our copyright policy is sometimes hard to understand at first. Dougweller (talk) 07:45, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Your recent edits
Please stop adding text and creating articles without inline citations to reliable and verifiable sources. See WP:RS, WP:Verifiable and WP:CITE. In one case you even changed the information in a line that had a source, which made it look as though that information came from the source, which it didn't. Dougweller (talk) 19:27, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Since you haven't responded, I've raised my concerns at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ancient_Egypt both to check to see if others share them, and as a place (one of them) where you might be able to get help and advice on AE articles. Dougweller (talk) 19:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Dougweller (talk) 10:49, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikiproject Ancient Egypt
Could you please add this at the top of any AE articles you create? . You might also want to add them to WikiProject Ancient Egypt/Ancient Egypt Watchlist - carefully and preview as it tends to leave a blank line when you add to it. Thanks. You might want to join the project also - WikiProject Ancient Egypt, And nothing to do with you, really (others use it as a reference also), I'm not sure about using a website on tombs by Anneke Bart Associate Professor Department of Mathematics and Computer Science Saint Louis University would qualify as a reliable source Dougweller (talk) 11:53, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Qaineit
I have nominated Qaineit, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Qaineit. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Dougweller (talk) 19:50, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Orphan tag
Hi Mychele,

You may have added some more links since I placed the orphan tag, but at the time, I recall only seeing one true article (Itet) linking to Ankhreshet. Feel free to remove the orphan tag if you wish, but I still feel that it could use some more links (to see what links there, click What links here on the lefthand column of the article). Ruby2010 (talk) 19:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Dougweller (talk) 18:37, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

April 2010
Welcome to Wikipedia. Your test on the page Talk:Neferetnebty worked, and has been removed. If you would like to experiment further, please use the sandbox. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing and its related help page for more information. Thank you. ArglebargleIV (talk) 14:57, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Argh, please ignore that, I am an idiot. There was nothing wrong with what you did, what I did was wrong, and I've restored the edit. Please accept my apologies. -- ArglebargleIV (talk) 02:21, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Egyptians
Dear Mychele,

There are some problems about the articles you've been writing about Ancient Egyptians. In Wikipedia we generally don't write articles about persons about whom very little is known. (See Notability (people).) The articles you created, for example, on Rahotep and Nofret's fifteen children, aren't necessary, because the small information in them is already included in Rahotep's article. (Actually all we know about them is their names. It is unnecessary to repeat in fifteen articles that the subject had fourteen siblings and was probably of ancient Egyptian religion.) Generally, if X is only known as Y's wife/child/whatever, and nothing else is known about them, then there's no need to create an article for this single sentence, it is enough to mention X in Y's article.

Also, you erroneously name them princes as princesses, as only the "King's son" and "King's daughter" titles are translated as such, and these were the children of a prince, not of a king.

Also, either translate the names in their entirety or leave them untranslated. Picking out the words you recognize and leaving out the rest or not recognizing their grammatical relation to each other makes no sense. For example, Iynefer's article says "nefer means beautiful", instead of "Iynefer's name means the beautiful/good one has come" (Hermann Ranke: Die ägyptische Personennamen). Also, please don't remove the transcriptions of hieroglyphs. They're useful for Egyptologists. It's not only for the fun of copy-pasting them letter by letter that I added them (since enwiki has no Egyptian transcription characters).

The small articles, like the ones on Rahotep's family should be merged then redirected. – Alensha   talk  16:22, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I agree with Alensha, we shouldn't write articles that can never be more than stubs. Part of our Manual of Styles says " Articles should not be either too big or too small." and some of yours are too small and incapable of meaningful expansion. And I agree, no partial translations of names. Dougweller (talk) 16:35, 18 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, we're all in agreement. We can start with the fifteen children, do we give them a joint article or just make them redirects to Rahotep? Dougweller (talk) 16:46, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, of course Hemiunu deserves his own article, I was talking about the rest of them. But I think children of princes should only be referred to as princes if they had the "King's Son" title. Some grandsons of the king had this title, others didn't. – Alensha   talk  18:48, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * We need to keep the discussion all on this web page. Mychele, we should not use forums in AE articles, or other Wikis such as Wikiversity. Most web sites aren't really that good either, although some are ok perhaps. Books (with page numbers) and articles are the best. The new interface makes it easy to do proper citations, although I suspect it will take a while before editors start using it properly - I'm finding it very useful though, especially now that I've found that if you show the hidden fields for a book you can add the page number easily. Dougweller (talk) 18:55, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Speculating on Family relations
Dear Mychele,

Adding in information that is not substantiated by literature is considered original research and should be avoided. After all there is nothing wrong by saying that we just don't known who someone's father, mother, children, etc are. Making up family relationships because "it might be possible'' does not belong on wikipedia.--AnnekeBart (talk) 19:31, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Ahhotep
It's complicated; most sources say there were two Ahhotep's, but Dodson's book lists only one (I guess he concluded that the two are one and the same). – Alensha   talk  15:10, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

"Raised high" I think, because it comes from the verb ḫˁỉ, "going up" or "shining". (actually has a different h in it, I'll correct it immediately). – Alensha   talk  16:08, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm not, Anneke is the expert, I'm just studying Egyptology (it's my 2nd year at university) also, it's been my hobby for the past 10 years or so :) – Alensha   talk  16:12, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Tyldesley mentions that there are 2 scenarios:
 * 1) There is only one Ahhotep, she's the wife of Seqenenre Taa II. She's the daughter of Senachtenre Taa I and Tetisheri. It is assumed that the burial equipment from Dra Abu el Naga (found in 1858) and the coffin found in TT320 (in 1881) all belong to the same queen, but that her funerary equipment somehow was split up/
 * 2) Ahhotep I is the wife of Seqenenre Taa II. The coffin found in 1858 is hers. The coffin found in 1881 belongs to another queen - Ahhotep II - who may me the wife of Kamose.

Robins even argues that there is a Ahhotep III based on the titles used in different places. Ann Macy Roth has a very interesting article about the Ahhotep coffins in Gold of Praise: Studies of Ancient Egypt in Honor of Edward F. Wente. (1999) --AnnekeBart (talk) 17:44, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, that's very strange. Three Ahhoteps? Also, there were three Nefertkaus.--Mychele (talk) 17:46, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

I just completely rewrote the pages for Ahhotep I and Ahhotep II. The information was all mixed up :-)

Are you sure about this? You moved picture of Ahhotep I to Ahhotep II. And was there really Ahhotep III?
 * Yes I am sure. I used Dodson and Hilton, Tyldesley and the article by Ann Macy Roth. The woman whose coffin was found in Deir el Bahari is called Ahhotep I and the woman whose coffin was found in Dra Abu el Naga (the gold leafed one) is referred to as Ahhotep II. The idea that there was a Ahhotep III was suggested by Gay Robins. Most think that Ahhotep III is the same as Ahhotep I --AnnekeBart (talk) 12:37, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Egypt, and "Egyptian hieroglyphs"
A reply to your question: what do I know about Egypt?... I got to the hieroglyphs thru the museum exhibit "Spledors of Egypt", (from the Pilazeus Museum, Germany, 6-8 venues in USA-Canada). I immediately went to Budge, The Rosetta Stone, and after 2 years did work on the cuneiform Amarna letters. I made the 3 categories for Amarna letters ...authors, locations, and Category:Amarna letters officials. The precursor was an "Article"-(refined after 8-weeks) but it took 2-weekends to start the article: Amarna letters-localities and their rulers. At the end of making as many reasonable articles, or adding to existing ones, I went to the web and googled all clay tablets available to see, (Side A, or reverse, Side B, and so about 15 pages, you can web, ==External link== to the actual clay tablets)

I have finally made two pages of hieroglyphs, but they are the culmination of the last 1-year+, and they include a navigation box for the alphabet; article-1: List of Egyptian hieroglyphs by common name: A-L. After I did the navBox in English (I had previously made about 5 STUB espanol-(Spanish) articles, I did 6 STUB articles for the 24 letter alphabet. It was from the fellow in Spanish (who changed his box from 4x6 =24, to a 2x 12 Box, but he used the correct equivalent alphabetic values for the characters. I used his (Template) for the subcategories he had made in Spanish, as my template for the two pages: A-L, M-Z. The 2 articles could not have been created, had I not done the previous 1 years work,... or all the other people in WikipediaLand (including yourself) that have done the work. (Another example of trying something before the articles have been created: I tried (a year early) but finally did a category: Category:Fossil trackways. I am presently working on the "mountain ranges" in Arizona or the Lower Colorado River Valley (near Yuma, Arizona, Category:Winterhaven, California(I just started it.). But my latest favorite articles: the Pajarito Mountains, part of a small cluster of hills/mountains: the "Tumacacori Highlands"; but I am presently working out of a 1000 page seminal, notable, ground-breaking book called: Life on Earth, from the 1970's. The 3 pages I've made so far are: List of adaptive radiated marsupials by form,.. List of adaptive radiated Hawaiian honeycreepers by form... (patterned after my article: List of White Sea biota species by phylum. The third article is Sequence of proteases - chymotrypsin A - trypsin - elastase... So at the moment I have put all Hieroglyphs on the back burner: One of the last I did, though... (a nice one is: Gold (hieroglyph) with the beautiful hieroglyph coin). ...the latest h-article was: Cross-ndj (hieroglyph). Note I had gone to WikiCommons last year spring 2009, for the first time and put the photos in categories: it took about 5-months. If you want to see the most amazing stele, by a specialist artisan, with altered forms of beautiful hieroglyphs, go to the 'Meteor hieroglyph', and double clik the stele to put it in high resolution. (the meteor is in line about 5), at the base of the Ba(Soul) bird... (the other Meteor Photo, I used for the Stair-single (hieroglyph). Sorry about a long answer, and what nationality are you, and where do U live? I am in the SonoranDesert, southwest Arizona, USA... (And I see above you have a section on Tiamat... after I did the "hieroglyphs" in Commons, I then did the Cuneiform: See a category: "Category:Cuneiform on media")(or "Category:Hieroglyphs on media" (it also has a section for the Luwian language hieroglyphs) Cheers! Mmcannis (talk) 16:30, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Glod (mythology)
Hi, Mychele. As I see it, the question is whether we are justified in identifying Loki, the Eddic figure, with Loge/Háloge, the figure mentioned in Þorsteins saga Víkingssonar. Though the euhemeristic element in this case is fairly transparent, I don't think a 1:1 correspondence is warranted, and I didn't see any such identification in the sources I reviewed - which were admittedly sparse. Besides, seeing as Loki's wife is traditionally identified as Sigyn, I think keeping the two separate is in order. However, if you find any reliable sources where this identification is explicitly made, don't hesitate to either work them into the article yourself or to contact me or another editor for assistance. Thanks, -- Aryaman (talk) 16:22, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * P.S.: I just noticed you added that Glod was "in some sorces described rather as wife of Loki, who is god of fire". This kind of claim needs a citation. I'm assuming you have one at hand - if so, please add it. If not, then the statement is best removed until it can be verified in a reliable source. Thanks, -- Aryaman (talk) 16:28, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * But where are these "secondary sources"? I don't doubt they may exist, but we can't have such a nebulous claim stand in the article like that - particularly in the absence of any kind of verification. The Fornjót article is not the best point of reference, either. If you know of any sources which discuss Glod other than Anderson (1877; 1880), then now is the time to bring them forward so we can see how to work them into the article. If not, then the possible connection between Loki and Loge needs to be kept at Loki and not at Glöð - otherwise we're getting into original research with regards to this topic. -- Aryaman (talk) 08:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Again, we need to identify the "secondary sources" you mentioned in the article Glöð if the statement is to remain. As far as the more distant relatives of Fárbauti go, I won't strike the mention (I imagine someone else will do that), but it borders on the superfluous, IMO. -- Aryaman (talk) 16:01, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll take the issue regarding Fárbauti to the article's talkpage so we can get the opinions of other interested editors. Thanks, -- Aryaman (talk) 17:17, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Germanic mythology
Mychele, since you clearly have an interest in Germanic mythology, I think you would benefit from getting hold of the following handbooks on the subjects, all written by scholars: All are available from Amazon. Enjoy! bloodofox: (talk) 10:12, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Lindow, John (2001). Norse Mythology: A Guide to the Gods, Heroes, Rituals, and Beliefs. Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-19-515382-0
 * Orchard, Andy (1997). Dictionary of Norse Myth and Legend. Cassell. ISBN 0-304-34520-2
 * Simek, Rudolf (2007) translated by Angela Hall. Dictionary of Northern Mythology. D.S. Brewer ISBN 0-85991-513-1


 * Thanks! I notice you also like Greek mythology, according to your edit on Aphrodite's article.--Mychele (talk) 10:22, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem. We can always use more hands and eyes on the Germanic mythology-related articles! And yep, I am interested in Greek mythology (and I think it's shameful that our articles on the subject matter are so terrible...), as well as all Indo-European religions, but, as you can see, I am primarily interested in matters Northern European. :) bloodofox: (talk) 11:11, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Source quality
Hello Mychele, please be careful in your edits about mixing what attestations actually say with interpretation and theory. Confusing these things can result in a confused mess for the reader. Also, I notice that you're using a lot of websites as source material. Rather than that, I recommend that you do some searching on books.google.com, and then ask yourself if the source is scholarly or not. You'll find the results to be of much higher quality than unreferenced personal websites. bloodofox: (talk) 16:30, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Quoting sources correctly
There are several occasions where you deleted "probably" or "likely" from the article. Like Nefertiabet likely being the daughter of Khufu. By changing the stetement you are introducing mistakes and falsehoods. The reference (Dodson and Hilton) specifically says she MAY be a daughter. That means there are still questions about her parentage. Similarly you have a tendency to just declare people parents - Meritites for Baufre for instance - where there is no such information. This is considered original research and you are in violation of WP:OR with that. Making statements just because you think it's a nice theory is not acceptable on wikipedia. You need to be able to source that with a book. In this case finding some website that agrees with your theory is not a sufficient source. This has been brought up before. Please read the section on WP:OR and maybe even WP:POV. --99.13.114.41 (talk) 18:24, 3 October 2010 (UTC)


 * This is not my opinion -Reisner was the one who had theory about Baufra's parentage.--Mychele (talk) 12:58, 4 October 2010 (UTC)


 * If someone like Reisner has a theory about parentage, then feel free to include it, but mention that it is just a conjecture (i.e. don't make it look like a given fact) and possibly include what the guess is based on if possible. This could be something like the location of tomb, architectural elements of the tomb, etc. That kind of detail makes the page a lot better, and it explains to readers what is going on. --AnnekeBart (talk) 11:49, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, he said in one manuscript that Baufra was full brother of Djedefhor and Kawab and a son of Meritites. He is allmost sure bout it. I think he woud said 95 % that he is sure in what he is saying.--Mychele (talk) 08:50, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Kanefer's children
Yes, if you know the book or article where this is mentioned, then include what he says about them. Giving give the source of the information will add nicely to the list of references. What article does this come from? I'm curious :-) There are some articles via JSTOR that mention Kanefer, but I have not had time to include that information in the Kanefer page yet. --AnnekeBart (talk) 11:49, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I just noticed you edit. Please include the title of the article/book and the year it was published. This helps with WP:VERIFY and is standard practice.--AnnekeBart (talk) 11:54, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you add the actual references in? Just citing "Reisner" is not enough. The name of the article/book and year of publication need to be included. --AnnekeBart (talk) 22:40, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

October 2010
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Please stop adding conjectures as fact
In Persenet you changed it to say that Nikaure was her son. Please do not change conjecture to fact. This is misleading. As you wrote it the sentence was also not supported by the source (Dodson and Hilton). --AnnekeBart (talk) 14:10, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Continued problems with edits
There is still a problem with a fair number of the edits you make. Just to name a couple of issues:
 * 1) WP:VERIFY Articles need to be written based on the appropriate sources. Inline references need to be included so that others can check the work. This means no websites, but appropriate literature. The sources need to be accurately used. This was for instance the case with the edits to Kanefer. Just giving "Reisner" as a reference is inappropriate. He wrote so many articles and books that stating that the reference is Reisner is virtually useless.
 * 2) WP:OR The article needs to represent what is written in the literature. Personal theories do not belong on Wikipedia. This is a continued problem in posts. There is no source that states that Persenet means "sister's house" or something like that (just to give one example). If even for the plain reason that the name is too damaged to even be sure what the real name was.
 * 3) Replacing modern research with old theories, as was done in Persenet, is not appropriate. (re Nikaure)
 * 4) Creating pages for non-notable people is not appropriate.

Looking at the many discussions on this page this is a larger problem and the discussions don't really seem to change your behavior. One solution may be to see if someone would be willing to mentor you. The enthusiasm is commendable, but the mistakes in the edits are a problem. --AnnekeBart (talk) 15:54, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Are these all the same person? User talk:Gospodar svemira, IP93.136.50.7, Mychele Trempetich. If so why the different names?

Quoting from my talkpage:
 * Enthusiasm is good. So, we can agree - you can wrote the truth, but I am here to make a style like wiki. And marks must be putted on right places, categories and links, infoboxes and images must be placed right. This will my duty. See Persenet. I prefer that I can edit wiki style of articles and thus help to you.--Mychele (talk) 16:27, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 * That would require actual knowledge of areas in cognitive science. The way you have overlinked articles (to pages that do not exist for instance) shows you may want to be careful there. Infoboxes is a whole other "can of worms". Some people think they should be minimized (or completely deleted). Care definitely needs to be taken in using infoboxes. Without nuance the short versions can be misleading. --AnnekeBart (talk) 17:27, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Dear Anneke, if someone is not against you, then he/she is for you. Don't be angry on me. There is no reason for that. We can work together here, we just need agreement. I would always put links etc. You can always see my articles when I wrote them, and I will always see yours (maybe you made some mistakes in anguage, or maybe we need to put .,:" etc.). Team work is good, so why are you against it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.138.69.15 (talk) 09:21, 20 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I added your comment from my talkpage here to have the discussion in one place. This attempt at communication on my part is not out of anger. I'm trying to help you. You keep making serious mistakes in editing and they are considered a problem. To put any typos I make at the the same level as the mistakes you make is clearly a sign your are either unwilling or unable to grasp what the real problem is. In talking to you I am trying to avoid a more serious Request for Comment WP:RfC --AnnekeBart (talk) 12:52, 20 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Mychele, please keep the discussion here, not on other talk pages. It isn't just Anneke who is concerned about your editing. You know I've expressed my concerns in the past, and looking at the comments above, so have several other editors. Your edits are frequently a problem. Are you also editing as ? Because if so, Ymir's daughter is another problem as we don't know enough about this mythical character (except that she may have a name, Bestla, but you say she doesn't) for her to have her own article. Perhaps you need to be adopted by someone who can guide you. See Adopt-a-user. Dougweller (talk) 15:14, 20 November 2010 (UTC)


 * How you dare to insult me? My edits are not problem, there is no problem, and I don't know what I did wrong here.--93.138.69.15 (talk) 15:22, 20 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I ask again, are you editing as Gospodar svemira? And if you edits aren't a problem, why are half a dozen editors questioning them? Dougweller (talk) 15:30, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

I will change what is wrong, but please made me facts who are wrong.--Mychele (talk) 15:32, 20 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Please stop using the Minor edits tick box - it's probably better that you don't use it at all. It's for "Examples include typographical corrections, formatting and presentational changes, rearrangement of text without modification of content, etc. A minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute." - you are using it when you add text, eg X was Y's daughter. Dougweller (talk) 19:16, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case
Your name has been mentioned in connection with a sockpuppetry case. Please refer to Sockpuppet investigations/Mychele Trempetich for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to cases before editing the evidence page. Dougweller (talk) 19:12, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

November 2010
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 3 days for abusing multiple accounts. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text below this notice, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 06:17, 21 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Note to any Administrators considering unblocking - this editor used this IP to edit today, and the Gospodar IP twice on the 19th. In other words, Mychele, you are editing today while blocked, and you must have known which account you were logging in to on the 19th. I don't know what your purpose is in doing this, and it may simply be an issue of competence - you might want to read WP:COMPETENCE, it may be that you are not competent enough to be editing, at least without a mentor, and I urge you again to consider asking to be adopted. Dougweller (talk) 13:12, 21 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Mychele, you can login to edit this page, but if you continue to use IPs to edit other articles your block will almost certainly be extended. Dougweller (talk) 13:15, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

I am telling you that this is a mistake. I never used Gospodar svemira; this can be simply redirected to my account wich I always used. My edits are no false. For example, Žut is really Croatian word for yellow. My intention is not to put lies or half-truths, but just what is true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.0.226.117 (talk) 13:19, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

I am using Gospodar on wikimedia and Mychele here. Before 2 days, I forget to log out from Media and so I remained here as Gospodar svemira. This was just mistake. And I can have two different accounts for two different things - Media and wikipedia. There are no bad intentiones. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.0.226.117 (talk) 13:26, 21 November 2010 (UTC)


 * That's possible. That doesn't explain why you have been using an IP to edit articles today at the same time you are asking to be unblocked. Either you know you shouldn't be doing that, or you for some reason think it's ok to carry on editing if you can avoid the block. Neither of these indicate that you are trying to improve problems with your editing. I'm blocking the IP now, please log in next time you want to use your talk page. Dougweller (talk) 13:42, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

This is really my explanation. And I am trying to improve problems. But how can you see that without you giving me a chance? I never used Gospodar svemira for any reason. I was surprised when I saw that I am Gospodar svemira on wikipedia and then I remember that I forget to log out from wikimedia.--Mychele (talk) 08:11, 22 November 2010 (UTC)


 * That is no excuse for using an IP for editing while blocked. You haven't explained that, and when you were asked several times if you were Gospodar you didn't answer - it took the SPI and the block to get you to admit it. Dougweller (talk) 08:37, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

I was afraid at first that you will think that I am using account for some bad manner. All using of account Gospodar were mistakes. This is only what I can say about this. I know that I used this account after being blocked - but I was then Gospodar because I forget to log out and I notice later that Mychele is blocked.--Mychele (talk) 08:40, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Either you are not telling the truth or you aren't competent enough to edit here. You posted here as asking for an unblock. That means you knew you were blocked. That post was at 12:49, 21 November 2010. 24 minutes later, knowing you were blocked, you made this edit  and then two minutes later this one. . So please don't tell us you didn't know you were blocked when you made those edits. Dougweller (talk) 09:45, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

I made that, that's true, but not as Mychele or Gospodar svemira, and not with bad manner. I wrote something what is clearly right and I never put lies here.--Mychele (talk) 09:47, 22 November 2010 (UTC)


 * This is what I meant. You knew you were blocked but decided that as you were right, you could still edit. And adding quotation marks around a word the way you did is not 'clearly right'. By the way, would you please read WP:INDENT? Dougweller (talk) 10:32, 22 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, I wrote this now. It is bad if wrote something true even if I am blocked when it is clear this is true? You should understand this only in a good manner and just a logical question. And is my unblocking soon?--Mychele (talk) 10:47, 22 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, posting when blocked is considered a violation of the rules. Please read WP:EVADE and WP:BLOCK --AnnekeBart (talk) 13:41, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Family relations
Please don't add all kinds of extraneous family relations. Mentioning great-nephews in for instance Minkhaf I and grand parents in Kawab is not benefiting the page. Remember that this is an encyclopedic entry we are writing. The fact that Kawab is Sneferu's grandson is not important. He did not serve under his grandfather, nor is he associated with him other than his family relation. It would only make sense to mention something like that if he had served at his grandfather's court or was in some way connected to his funerary complex, or something like that. The only place to mention namesakes is in the very first sentence where we refer to similar named people. --AnnekeBart (talk) 12:40, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Minkhaf II


A tag has been placed on Minkhaf II requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.) or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Rawer


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Sahure
The main change I made was the reference. You used Tyldesley as a reference and the actual source for the information is Verner and a book by Dodson and Hilton. The style is not that important. In paragraph style the inline references were a bit easier to accurately include. That's what's up. --AnnekeBart (talk) 00:46, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Nefermaat
Please do not introduce factual mistakes by claiming relations as fact when they are merely theories like you did in Nefermaat. The edit changed the text to something that does not accurately represent what is written in the source used as a reference. It is important to mention these nuances. This is the exact same problem that has been brought to your attention many times now. These kind of edits are a problem. This has been mentioned to you several times now by different people: This is related to actually quoting the sources correctly as mentioned here: I do not take reverting edits lightly. If I did that it's because I consider there to be factual mistakes in the edit. --AnnekeBart (talk) 17:05, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * User talk:Mychele Trempetich
 * User talk:Mychele Trempetich
 * User talk:Mychele Trempetich
 * User talk:Mychele Trempetich
 * User talk:AnnekeBart


 * Anne, please do not be mad on me! It's a New Year! We should make some agreements and decisions - I will TRY to follow your steps and advices. But if I see any mistake in article, I will always do something to fix it. We should not argue, but rather try to find a common language. And this is easy. I am here to be friend to you, no to argue.--Mychele (talk) 18:22, 1 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I copied your response from my talkpage here. I'm not mad, but it is a tad frustrating to have to go over the same issue many times. And for as far as I can see you were not fixing any mistakes. The information was correct and appropriately sourced. Alensha had taken care to clean up the article and it looked very good.
 * And I do wish you a happy 2011! :-) --AnnekeBart (talk) 18:29, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Look now at Nefermaat. I just do this:


 * edit gallery
 * edit reference
 * put a link on vizier

I just made some edits relatd to the style.--Mychele (talk) 18:31, 1 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Per WP:Galleries it is better to include images in the body of the article. Galleries are only appropriate if there is no real place for the images in the article but they still add to the knowledge about the subject. I added more information about the tomb and the Meidum Geese. I swapped the image of the 2 geese for one with all 6 because there is symbolism involved in the entire image (explained in the text now).--AnnekeBart (talk) 19:23, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Question for you
This has nothing to do with your edits really, but just something I have been pondering. In some of the infoboxes it says something like: Religion: Ancient Egyptian religion. Is it me or is that kind of a silly thing to say? What other religion would they have? And that is about as uninformative as it goes considering how complex AE religion is! This lumps together cults of Re, Ptah, Amun, Aten, etc. And we do not really know if they adhered to one god or goddess more than another. I sometimes delete it from the info box because it just seems like an entirely empty statement. What do you think? --AnnekeBart (talk) 19:33, 1 January 2011 (UTC)


 * For example, Khufu believed in Ra and Khnum, so we can say "Ancient Egyptian religion". But Nefertiti believed in Atonism, so we can say "Atonism" in her infobox. Agree?--Mychele (talk) 12:58, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ofelia Cano


The article Ofelia Cano has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article. &#32; The nominator also raised the following concern:
 * Not much noble info listed, should have at least one noble source, for people in TV/Movies like her go to the IMDB for one source.

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I will myself put references soon.--Mychele (talk) 09:12, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Betrest
Hi! There´s an high quality lecture of german egyptogist Silke Roth, which has written a book about all king´s mothers from early dynasty to Cleopatra. It could raise the quality and actuality of the said article. I and my portal at de.wikipedia have set up an intersting article, too. with greetings; --Nephiliskos (talk) 17:49, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Djeseretnebti
Hi, it´s me again. I have completely redesigned the article basing on good literature and I truely hope I did well pointing to technical things. I´m sorry if I did things wrong, but I´m yet a bit unaccustomed with the technical settings of en.Wikipedia articles. Please give me the time to learn and practice! I just wanted to update and correct the article which is now interesting for you, as I hope. Greetings;--Nephiliskos (talk) 03:13, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * While I have tried to fix the grammar and links, Iam concerned at the accuracy of Nephiliskos' changes. Not being an expert of the period, could you please check Nephiliskos's well intentioned changes.  Thanks --Chewings72 (talk) 03:38, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * @Chewings72: If you are concerned about my edits, why don´t you talk with ME about? Or is it common here to talk only behind other´s back obout them??? There´s truely no single reason to mistrust my works just because my sources are not english. disappointed, --Nephiliskos (talk) 03:50, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi there
Sorry for the slow response :-) Nice to hear from you again. Hope you had a nice valentines too. Life is still pretty hectic .... --AnnekeBart (talk) 13:07, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

LOL Thanks for the woman's day wishes. That was very nice. Glad you like the work on the Ancient Egyptian page. Thanks for finding a page that was missing from the list (Minkhaf II). I'm not sure if there are others like that? Some of the sections need to be wiki-linked. I haven't had time to do all that. Cheers --AnnekeBart (talk) 21:49, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Michelle! Thanks for the message on my talk page :-) I looked at ED and the question about the historicity of the Exodus is a complicated one. The studies and theories vary quite a bit from what I have read. It has been linked to the Second Intermediate Period, Akhenaten, Ramesses II, etc. I have seen an article in which it was suggested that Hatshepsut was the King's Daughter who raised Moses. The Bitiah/Bintanath connection I have seen before. An article in Biblical Archaeology though points out that it will be hard to find real evidence in the Egyptian records. One can argue that this episode was a case where Egypt lost a conflict and that they really did not record. Some will say it's all a myth, other will claim there are some historical facts that underlie the story, while yet others accept it all as a matter of faith. I'm more on the Deism spectrum of things, so that colors my perception. --AnnekeBart (talk) 14:32, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Jorge Reyes (actor)


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Re: Deleted image
The computer software template would be used if you were using the screenshot to say something about the Web browser or PDF reader the image comes from. It looks like this is an image of a work of art depicted in a scholarly journal. You might consider Non-free 2D art or Non-free historic image as alternatives; you can see a full list of available tags for copyright images at this link. I've restored File:Yich'aak B'alam.jpg so you can make the change to a more appropriate tag. (ESkog)(Talk) 21:17, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries. I've gone ahead and deleted the image at your request. (ESkog)(Talk) 11:47, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

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Talkback
Bgwhite (talk) 07:44, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Xitamel-Keh


The article Xitamel-Keh has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Uh, two sources isn't that good, and saying "He wasn't that important" isn't really good Wikipedia etiquette

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Proposed deletion of Chuluk


The article Chuluk has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Uh, two sources isn't that good, and saying "He wasn't that important" isn't really good Wikipedia etiquette

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Well, because they were not very important, you can just redirect their pages on the page about their city.

Neferkasokar
Hi!^^ I created this lil` article and now I wonder if you may take a look at it? I would simply feel better if someone like you could gimme an evaluation of the article´s quality. thx. Best regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 20:31, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Xiuhcanahualtzin etc
Hi I found the book in google books. Please copy it and give the page number and inline citations.♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:02, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thanks! :)

See Ernst Stavro Blofeld and Donald Pleasance, SPECTRE. Not me no! I restored Esther Rinaldi, although need to find a reliable source to prevent it being deleted again. Thankyou for your efforts.♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:13, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Calakmul rulers
Hi Mychele,

I notice that you have been working on the rulers list on the Calakmul article, but you have given no indication of your source(s) for the changes. When I created the table, I referenced everything to Robert Sharer and Loa Traxler's The Ancient Maya (2006 ed.) and Simon Martin and Nikolai Grube's Chronicle of the Maya Kings and Queens (2000 ed). This is in the cite note referenced from the first column title. I'd be grateful if you could put your source(s) into the citation, or let me know what you used, so I can do it. Thanks, Simon Burchell (talk) 10:58, 11 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, I notice this now. Yes, I was working on Calakmul kings. I am now working on Hawaii. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.53.179.232 (talk) 09:38, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Hawaii articles
Why do you keep creating stub articles on Hawaiian figures that you don't know anything about? Most of your articles are bare genealogy with absolutely no other facts on the person.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:25, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I am Michelle. I want to help you with articles about Hawaii. I am also very interested in culture of that beautiful country. We can make articles together! What you think? -Mychele (talk)


 * I a little busy right now with school, so I can't create any article. Usually when I create articles, I refrain from creating short ones. When I have time I go back and improve some of the articles you've created. When you are creating this articles, don't fully trust the royal ark geneaology site or the rootsweb site because they have a lot of errors.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 09:59, 1 February 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, Kavebear, I will have that on my mind. I hope we would became good friends and companions here:)--Mychele (talk)


 * Most of your articles lack depth and detail. Try using googlebooks (for comtemporary sources and modern history books, like Fornander's An Account of the Polynesian Race), the Manoa library (by searching "term" site:http://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/ on google), Samuel Kamakau's Ruling Chiefs of Hawaii (link here), and Ralph Simpson Kuykendall's books (here, here, and here) to better flesh out your articles. Good luck.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:55, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, your Michelle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.0.193.150 (talk) 14:05, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

I am a little concern. You can't create articles for people that absolutely nothing notable is known about other than their geneaology and don't try to translate names if you don't understand the language. Articles like Ipuwaiahoalani and others like it are bound to be deleted; even I would do that. There are wives of Kamehameha I that don't deserve articles because nothing important is known about them, also don't create articles for every ancestor of a person.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 14:56, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

I have solution for Ipuwai: we should redirect her page and page of her mother to the page of Hoalani, where are all information about them three. On page Manono I found that this word is both Maori and Hawaiian.
 * No, I wouldd say delete all three and mention them in one sentence on her husband's article. "Kaihikapu-a-Kakuhihewa's wife was the High Chiefess Ipuwai-a-Hoalani, a daughter of Hoalani, son of Laninuiaka'ihupe'e and Kauhi'ili'ula, and his wife Kauakamakaohua." Also refrain from creating articles on wifes of Hawaiian alii aimoku's with no importance or information at all about them. And don't call them Queens, Princesses, and Princes more than necessary. Manono has six different meanings in the Hawaiian language unless you're an expert on they're exact meaning don't try to interpret their exact meaninig.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 16:10, 11 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree. We should do that. Can we do together? :)
 * It's Haukanuimakamaka not Hau-Kanuihoniala. In the process of your edits can you remove all numberings that were originally there and refrain from numbering aliis and mois since traditionally no historian or Hawaiian would numbered them especially since some of the ali'is approaching the year 1000 didn't even rule the island Christopher Buyers said they did on Royal Arks geneaology site. Also don't quote Solomon Peleioholani, he isn't the best source and when using kekoolani geneaology site, it is best to verify spellings with other more reliable sources.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 16:10, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Citation question
Hello! Thank you for your contributions to the encyclopedia! I was reading your article Itzquauhtzin and I noticed that you cite "Chimalpahin (1997)", but I'm not really sure what that means - if it is a book, could you maybe edit the page to include the full title? Thanks again :) --Cerebellum (talk) 02:17, 22 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, this is an autor of one Aztec codex. He was called Chimalpahin. I mentioned that in article, you can see now.

Iberian queens
I am a little concerned about the pages you recently created dealing with obscure Leonese queens. Specifically, I don't think some of them merit a page, as all that is known about them comes from a genealogy that states to whom they married and the names of their children. Filling them out by showing pictures of sons and pedigrees of mothers only serves to disguise their lack of notability (which is not inherited from their more-notable children, parents, husbands or even inherent in their title). In the case of Sancha Gomez of Saldana, that she was of Saldana at all, or daughter of Gomez, is just a popular guess, and not something Wikipedia should be immortalizing in the name of a page for this obscure individual. I will see how they develop, but as they currently stand, I am likely to merge them into other destinations. Agricolae (talk) 15:45, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Julia Alapai
Why did you take the information from my userspace and create an article on it?! I am requesting that it be deleted. If not I am redirecting the entire article back into my userspace. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:00, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Mychele, I reviewed KAVEBEAR's request for speedy deletion of this article, and declined it because it's not technically a copyright violation. However, it does appear clear that you copied part of KAVEBEAR's userspace draft at User:KAVEBEAR/Julia Alapai and used it to create the article.  Can you explain why you did that?  I am considering deleting this article until KAVEBEAR's userspace draft is complete, and I'd like to know your thoughts on that.  Thanks.  Also note that there is a parallel conversation going on at User talk:KAVEBEAR.  &mdash;SW&mdash; babble 14:54, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Sweet greetings
Frohe Ostern! :D Cheers! --Nephiliskos (talk) 14:07, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Happy Easter!
Thanks for the message, and I hope you have a great Easter weekend! - --AB (talk) 14:35, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Perneb
Hi, Cutie!^^ It is unknown where Perneb was buried. I personally think he was buried either at Sakkara (close to his poppa) or near the ominous town of Iptjw, where his "job centre" was. Both was typical for such high ranked peoples of that time. ;-) Cheers;--Nephiliskos (talk) 14:02, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * A question: Are you IP. 93.138.241.25? If so, thanks for the interesting article "tomb of Perneb". Good one. ;-) Cheers;--Nephiliskos (talk) 19:49, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Redirects
Please stop creating redirects. They are not useful at all. If the person has no article because they are not notable enough to have one just leave it at that. Creating redirects solves nothing. If anyone wants to know anything about Kekikipaa a simple search would get them to her husband's article. I recommend that you place  over them so they can be deleted--KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:33, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I will do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.136.253.75 (talk) 08:09, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You still haven't.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:26, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Please stop adding pronounciation and guessed meanings of names. Unless the meaning is found in a creditable source and book in their complete form, you can't guess their meanings based on syllables and their meaning. You don't know if Hualani mean "royal fruit" or "royal egg". First lani means heaven, and hua could mean any of the words you found on that Hawaiian dictionary, not just fruit and egg.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:26, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

And you should always use your account to edit and not use anonymous IP addresses.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:50, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, hua can mean any round object, so Hualani's name probably coud have many meanings. Lani can be used in form kalani - "royal" or "chief".--Mychele (talk) 10:15, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Kalani means the heaven. With okalani, it means "of heaven" like Liliuokalani (the smarting of heaven). Alii means chief. Hua can mean testicles, the thirteenth night of the lunar month, a star, and anything else and more not listed on that dictionary. Bottomline we can't guess on this unless you are fluent in Hawaiian and understand every nature of the name. I've talk with a Hawaiian user before on this and he doesn't even know the full meanings behind most names of the chiefs and chiefesses. Most Hawaiians don't even know the real meaning of the names of the islands themselves, so you can't decipher what the meaning of their names just by taking parts and translating it and then saying them together.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 17:38, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * My first name is Kalani, but it's true as you mentioned, that Lani could've come from Kalani but I'm going to speculate that it wasn't since we have no known chiefs referred to as such nor today do we do that with Kalani since some people's names are just Lani. A good example would be the chief Lanileo or with Hualani's father Laniaiku.  But Kavebear is right that we don't know many of the meanings behind the chiefs names since they're very ancient names and a perfect example would be Keawe and Hina.  But many, many years ago I was taught that we can't really translate everyone's names because we may not know of how they acquired their names, as in the case of the Princess Pauahi.  But if I were to just take a wild guess, hua could refer to the beginning of something, probably something significant happened during his time or his parents' generation.  It could also refer to the ending of something wonderful, or even refer to a specific time when the moon is in a particular stage on a day which is referred to as Hua.  Although we know it in writing as Hualani, the name could've also been Hu'alani, since back then they weren't consistent with 'okinas, so it could have even more possible meanings.  To us, we just know that Hualani was a chiefess from where I'm from who married a chief from ka moku o Keawe.  Mamoahina (talk) 14:25, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Also please listen to all the complaints on your talk page by other users because they are helpful.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 17:42, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Hua can mean more than any round object. Hualani might mean the heavenly 13th month or the heavenly star or the heavenly [insert any round objects], heavenly testicles/genitals might even be the meaning as a sign of fertility. Hawaiians are named for the events surrounding their birth. We can't infer meaning at all if we aren't experts. You can include meaning if you find a credible source that states the meaning (ie. Kawaokaohele, our days of poverty). Kekuiapoiwa II was a wohi chiefess and her parents were not siblings. Please read: Hawaiian antiquities: (Moolelo Hawaii) by David Malo, Ruling chiefs of Hawaii by Samuel Kamakau, and An Account of the Polynesian Race by Abraham Fornander. I don't want to deal with any of these articles or you anymore. Please stop calling me dear, getting too friendly for my comfort and running to me and asking me to forgive you every time I leave a message on your talk page stating some mistakes you've made. I am tired of fixing these mistakes. I said this because I was fighting to be nice but I dread everytime you create an article because they are just stubs that provide nothing but whose mother/father/dog that person has and linking everything from brother "tale" to "story" to "bird". Read these books on Hawaiian history and you will find who are the important individuals in Hawaiian history instead of replicating Kekoolani's genealogy links all over. Goodbye.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:25, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Keoloewa and all the other you proposed for deletions are good redirect links. These are the problem redirects you've created:


 * Kapohanaupuni
 * Kapukamola
 * Kauakahikuaanaauakane
 * Kaneikaiwilani
 * Kekelaokalani I
 * Kapo'aka'uluhaila'a
 * Kapaihi-a-Ahu
 * Kealiiokalani
 * Kekikipaa
 * Piʻipiʻi Kalanikaulihiwakama
 * Kumuleilani
 * Queen Kamanawa
 * Kaohukiokalani
 * Makakaualii
 * Kaniuhu
 * Kuanu'upu'awalau
 * Kaululaau
 * Hau-Kanuihoniala

Place  over them so they can be deleted.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 23:20, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Baufra
Hi. I have overworked that article with good sources. Hope you like it. Greetz;--Nephiliskos (talk) 20:33, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Khufu
It´s finally finished now. Might satisfy you. Greetz;--Nephiliskos (talk) 08:15, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, the page is beautiful! It seems you really like ancient Egypt! Do you know is Anneke here?--Miha (talk) 09:39, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... dunno. But I wanna write her, so I think I´ll find out. ;-) I wanna let the page of Khufu candidate, but I absolutely dunno how to do that. Could you do the presentation for me? --Nephiliskos (talk) 10:11, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah, you want to make Khufu candidate for "good article"? I will help you!--Miha (talk) 10:12, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Yayyy!^^ It would be SO cool, cuz, if I remember right, there are only very few articles from Egyptian kings with a "winner´s button"... And it would pimp up the look of the whole portal, too.^^ --Nephiliskos (talk) 10:17, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Alapainui
The article Alapainui you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Alapainui for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Redtigerxyz Talk 13:48, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You can renominate it anything you feel that GA criteria are fulfilled. However, IMO it is not ready now. It will fail in "3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic." There is lot of info about Alapainui that is not in the article. Compare info with . The article is not in shape as GAs like David III of Tao], [[Darius I etc. The article has typos/unclear sentences like "The eventually eventually ended in a truce between Alapaʻi and Peleʻioholani ... " -- Redtigerxyz  Talk 18:01, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

db-author
Hello Mychele. I've noticed your recent CSD nominations. I know you are the creator and I respect your decision, however, I have to ask: Do you really want to delete valid and useful historical information?? What's wrong here? --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:48, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

--Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:23, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

This is the list of all of your existing articles (uploading may be slower).

The following is the list of some of your articles deleted on 25 July 2012 (I can't find them all, it is quite a mess).


 * Khaf-Khufu
 * Sety-Ptah
 * Neferkau
 * Tlazozomizqui
 * Jaguar Bird Peccary
 * Ruler 1 of Toniná

(copied from my user talk page). Best regards. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 11:06, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello
Hello Mihaela. As my userpage says, I am currently pursuing a doctorate in the field of Old Testament studies. You can see from my list of articles created that I have a special interest in minor biblical characters. Thanks for saying hello. StAnselm (talk) 21:49, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

 * Yes, the article looks good. But, it needs just a little wikifying! :) -- Tito Dutta  ✉  09:35, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Reply
I would appreciate if you would start your own section when you leave a message on my talk page. In my opinion your edits added nothing signficant to the article and using random sites from the internet is frowned upon on wikipedia along with listing every relatives, with or without an article, of a person on their article; the limit should be parent and children and significant ancestors that had a impact on a person's life. --The Emperor&#39;s New Spy (talk) 09:26, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Re: WikiBreak
Good wishes -- Tito Dutta   ✉  15:10, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Hori?
"Brother of Te Rauangaanga was named Hori." I've just deleted this. It's not well worded, and "Hori" can be a loaded term, so a source would be nice. Snori (talk) 18:00, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

--Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 13:25, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Another comment. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 14:10, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: Felix
You could, but right now it needs a lot of work to be a GA. There's very little prose in the article, and there's no structure to it, it's just a bunch of single sentence paragraphs just kinda sitting there. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 16:45, 10 September 2012 (UTC)