User talk:Mz7/December 2014–February 2015

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About Hsinchu Dong Yuan Elementary School
OK. I just came English Wikipedia, so I didn't understand the rules of here very much. You can delete the article, I will do better for the wiki.--T Gordon Cheng (talk) 11:07, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter—December 2014


Did you know?

Basic table editing is now available in VisualEditor. You can add and remove rows and columns from existing tables at the click of a button.

The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor. Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on table editing and performance. Their weekly status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.

VisualEditor was deployed to several hundred remaining wikis as an opt-in beta feature at the end of November, except for most Wiktionaries (which depend heavily upon templates) and all Wikisources (which await integration with ProofreadPage).

Recent improvements
Basic support for editing tables is available. You can insert new tables, add and remove rows and columns, set or remove a caption for a table, and merge cells together. To change the contents of a cell, double-click inside it. More features will be added in the coming months. In addition, VisualEditor now ignores broken, invalid  and   elements, instead of trying to repair them.

You can now use find and replace in VisualEditor, reachable through the tool menu or by pressing  ⌃ Ctrl + F  or  ⌘ Cmd + F.

You can now create and edit simple  paragraphs for quoting and indenting content. This changes a "" into a "".

Some new keyboard sequences can be used to format content. At the start of the line, typing " *  " will make the line a bullet list; " 1.  " or " # " will make it a numbered list; " == " will make it a section heading; " : " will make it a blockquote. If you didn't mean to use these tools, you can press undo to undo the formatting change. There are also two other keyboard sequences: " [[ " for opening the link tool, and " {{ " for opening the template tool, to help experienced editors. The existing standard keyboard shortcuts, like ⌃ Ctrl + K to open the link editor, still work.

If you add a category that has been redirected, then VisualEditor now adds its target. Categories without description pages show up as red.

You can again create and edit galleries as wikitext code.

Looking ahead
VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme designed by the User Experience group. The new theme will be visible for desktop systems at MediaWiki.org in late December and at other sites early January. (You can see a developer preview of the old "Apex" theme and the new "MediaWiki" one which will replace it.)

The Editing team plans to add auto-fill features for citations in January. Planned changes to the media search dialog will make choosing between possible images easier.

Help
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Thank you! WhatamIdoing (WMF) (talk) 23:37, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you: Cherzong Vang review & help via Tea House
Would anyone be willing to review recent submission: Draft: Cherzong Vang

Would anyone have the time or interest to review a recent submission of ours, given the large backlog entitled (????): Draft: Cherzong Vang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Cherzong_Vang

thank you Publico2020 (talk) 15:29, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Especially given we are still learning how to submit, edit and many other things on Wikipedia.

Also, not sure how to fully categorize, or create charts, in various categories (Hmong, Laos, Vietnam War, Important Hmong-American and Lao-American people, War in Laos, military history, Laos Civil War etc)Publico2020 (talk) 15:34, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Impressive. I've had a look as a signed-up article reviewer, and the main issues I can see, which probably won't affect the notability or referencing of the subject or the acceptance of the article, are that references are not spaced out (that is, you don't put a space between punctuation and reference or between two references placed together), and it would be good to use Template:Cite web to format the references properly so the urls are tidied away into templated references. Other than that, I'm not seeing an issue, but then again be warned I haven't delved into the details of the article or its sources (and am more of a copy-editor than a content-creator, so may be missing something else).

As for the charts, I have no idea on that, but someone else will no doubt be along shortly. Good luck with getting the article accepted. (On a related note, I have a question of my own: as a relatively new reviewer, is it acceptable to edit drafts at AfC for copy-editing reasons, or should those be left alone for an original contributor to fix?) LouiseS1979 (talk) 19:34, 19 December 2014 (UTC) And I do think it'd be better if you trimmed down unnecessary links in See also section.--Chamith (talk) 05:25, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

@Publico2020: I note with interest that you have been referring to yourself with "we" and "our", implying that your account may be shared by multiple persons. Please be aware that user accounts are supposed to represent your contributions as an individual, and for this reason, role accounts that are shared by multiple people are against Wikipedia policy. One especially important thing to know is that if you represent an organization or a company, you should avoid or be extremely cautious about editing articles affiliated with your organization. The reason for this is because you may have a conflict of interest for those subjects, meaning that you may find it difficult to write from a neutral point of view. Without intentionally doing so, editors tend to write biased content in the subjects they have a conflict of interest in. With regards to your draft, it looks pretty good. There are a few formatting errors that can be fixed through general editing. The ultimate question that will determine whether or not it will be accepted is whether or not the subject is notable—topics are generally notable when they have received significant coverage from reliable sources. This means that the quality of the sources you provide are essential for the submission's success. Mz7 (talk) 05:51, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

@Mz7: - good point. Having looked at the article, there are a few issues, but nothing really that suggests a COI issue or is overly promotional (or which couldn't be overcome by a bit of judicious editing once it goes live). Most of what is mentioned - absent the OTT See also section that Chamith notes - is noteworthy and is about someone who assisted in law-making to assist the naturalisation of various individuals involved in the Vietnam War, rather than about a company or organisation which is outside the scope of the project. However, Publico2020 does need to note the policy on shared accounts. LouiseS1979 (talk) 10:19, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

@Publico2020, Lstanley1979: Taking note of the above, I have gone ahead and Accepted the submission and moved it to Cherzong Vang. Publico2020, thank you for you contributions to Wikipedia! I would recommend you read the advice above carefully, and if you have any further questions, feel free to come back to the Teahouse! Happy editing, Mz7 (talk) 17:24, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Dear LouiseS1979, Chamith, Mz7,

Thank you for the comments, suggestions, feedback and help.

I appreciate it.

I am a new user and still learning. With regard to "we" and "our", I am the only one using the account. I am married, so sometimes forget to write things in the singular, especially around Christmas when signing Christmas cards, etc.

Thank you again. I am still learning about Wikipedia and how to do things, seems like there is a lot to know.

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy New Year.

Very grateful for your help in trying to understanding these matters regarding my request & questions.

Publico2020 (talk) 01:59, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

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VisualEditor News 2015—#1


Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's appearance, the coming Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.

The Wikimedia Foundation has named its top priorities for this quarter (January to March). The first priority is making VisualEditor ready for deployment by default to all new users and logged-out users at the remaining large Wikipedias. You can help identify these requirements. There will be weekly triage meetings which will be open to volunteers beginning Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00 UTC). Tell Vice President of Engineering Damon Sicore, Product Manager James Forrester and other team members which bugs and features are most important to you. The decisions made at these meetings will determine what work is necessary for this quarter's goal of making VisualEditor ready for deployment to new users. The presence of volunteers who enjoy contributing MediaWiki code is particularly appreciated. Information about how to join the meeting will be posted at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal shortly before the meeting begins. Due to some breaking changes in MobileFrontend and VisualEditor, VisualEditor was not working correctly on the mobile site for a couple of days in early January. The teams apologize for the problem.

Recent improvements
The new design for VisualEditor aligns with MediaWiki's Front-End Standards as led by the Design team. Several new versions of the OOjs UI library have also been released, and these also affect the appearance of VisualEditor and other MediaWiki software extensions. Most changes were minor, like changing the text size and the amount of white space in some windows. Buttons are consistently color-coded to indicate whether the action: The TemplateData editor has been completely re-written to use a different design (T67815) based on the same OOjs UI system as VisualEditor (T73746). This change fixed a couple of existing bugs (T73077 and T73078) and improved usability.
 * starts a new task, like opening the dialog: blue ,
 * takes a constructive action, like inserting a citation: green ,
 * might remove or lose your work, like removing a link: red, or
 * is neutral, like opening a link in a new browser window: gray.

Search and replace in long documents is now faster. It does not highlight every occurrence if there are more than 100 on-screen at once (T78234).

Editors at the Hebrew and Russian Wikipedias requested the ability to use VisualEditor in the "Article Incubator" or drafts namespace (T86688, T87027). If your community would like VisualEditor enabled on another namespace on your wiki, then you can file a request in Phabricator. Please include a link to a community discussion about the requested change.

Looking ahead
The Editing team will soon add auto-fill features for citations. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to contribute to the Citoid service's definitions for each website, to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections.

We will need editors to help test the new design of the special character inserter, especially if you speak Welsh, Breton, or another language that uses diacritics or special characters extensively. The new version should be available for testing next week. Please contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF) if you would like to be notified when the new version is available. After the special character tool is completed, VisualEditor will be deployed to all users at Phase 5 Wikipedias. This will affect about 50 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including Afrikaans, Azerbaijani, Breton, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Mongolian, Tatar, and Welsh. The date for this change has not been determined.

Let's work together

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 * Join the weekly bug triage meetings beginning Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00 UTC). Information about how to join the meeting will be posted at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal shortly before the meeting begins. Contact James F. for more information.
 * Talk to the Editing team during the office hours via IRC. The next session is on Thursday, 19 February 2015 at 19:00 UTC.

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 * Thank you, you're very kind! Mz7 (talk) 03:32, 25 February 2015 (UTC)