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Phobos is being towed into Pascaqula, Mississippi now (with LIVE COVERAGE)
Phobos is being towed into Pascagoula, Mississippi now (with LIVE COVERAGE!!!) [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ_qX5PFlyg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ_qX5PFlyg]

Crazy to be seeing live coverage. And clear views. Cheers. N2e (talk) 19:21, 22 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Yes, I am watching that now. Amazing! Already made the relevant changes to the article. N828335 (talk) 19:34, 22 January 2021 (UTC)


 * With a well-sourced citation I trust. ;)  N2e (talk) 19:36, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Template:Starship flights/suborbital
It is good to see your enthusiasm for improving things in spaceflight topic area generally, and in helping to fix some particularly poor sourcing on Template:Starship flights/suborbital. I really appreciate your quick attention on the items that had been recently flagged.

I just thought it might be good to say here that there is definitely much more sourcing work and citation cleanup needed on that page; and stuff that wouldn't stand muster if some editor happens by to challenge it. I'd be happy to start discussing it on that Talk page... but also thought that since you are still relatively new to the editing on the English Wikipedia, I'd also be happy to discuss some of the broad categories that stand out to me here on your talk page too, if you'd like a more conversational and coaching take through some of those topics as you learn the Wikipedia ropes. Any preference? Cheers. N2e (talk) 19:26, 27 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Either is fine, thanks. N828335 (talk) 01:09, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Sending a notification
hey N828335, didn't get the notification to pop when you pinged me on the Template talk:Starship flights/suborbital page. In case you didn't know you probably do but, when you want to ping another editor (using the re template, ping, etc.) you need to sign your comment in the same edit (Looks like when you did it wasn't). See Help:Fixing failed pings if you need help, but just reposting the re template (with everyone's name) and resigning your comment should work. (or it could have been an error on my end) Happy editing! OkayKenji (talk • contribs) 02:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I tried it again, hopefully it worked. N828335 (talk) 02:23, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Still didn't work :(. But it's fine. OkayKenji (talk • contribs) 03:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Slightly confused
Hi N828335, Thank you for the welcome, although I must confess to being slightly confused by your welcome message. Although not a frequent or myriad editor, I have been a contributor and Wikipedian, almost since it's inception, (registered user since 2008). Could it be that you have me mistaken for someone else, or perhaps an error in the contributions/history database? Hopefully, if you're welcome was intended for someone else, you manage to find them. Sincerely,--Orville Wright (talk) 12:40, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. The fact that you did not have a talk page made me think you were conceptually somewhat new to editing. Obviously this is a generic message I leave often. Surprised no one welcomed you earlier. N828335 (talk) 15:19, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Request for input on SpaceX Starship
Greetings, I have started a discussion on the SpaceX Starship talk page about reoganizing the prototype section. I would really appreciate your input. Please take a look and leave a note. Many thanks. JaredHWood💬 01:28, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I saw that. I will look into it once I have time. N828335 (talk) 01:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I saw your note, that you are working on the prototype table. I'm online right now too and will stay out of your way so we don't get edit conflicts. If I'm on later and there is more work to do, I take a turn at it. Jared.h.wood → JHelzer💬 17:22, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, thanks! N828335 (talk) 17:24, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The tables look so much better without the bulky notes section! I've copied and pasted each note cell under their respective heading. However, this leaves a lot of duplicate information that needs to be properly merged. I'm going to take a break on this article for a few hours, if you want to work on cleaning it up. Thanks, N828335 (talk) 18:41, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

NET on List of Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy launches
That's what I get for not reading and being sloppy. Thanks for the help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dgrundler (talk • contribs) 18:42, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem, its just a minor issue. Thanks for your contributions! N828335 (talk) 18:45, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
 * And thanks for the welcome! The first page I edited on Wikipedia was over 13 years ago, but I am still a relative noob. Dgrundler (talk) 18:56, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

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Hello from Wikipedia en español
Hi bro, I'm from Wikipedia en español, there I edited your user page performing the grammar. I was thinking, you could return the favor? Please, my userpage here probably have grammar errors and I need a checking there. See ya! Xillegas (talk) 06:47, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, I will take a look. N828335 (talk) 07:02, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! Xillegas (talk) 03:30, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

"Deimos (oil rig)" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Deimos (oil rig). The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 8 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. I started a discussion on this. N2e (talk) 04:20, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Floating launch vehicle operations platform
FYI, I just created Category:Floating launch vehicle operations platform in order to subcat away the half dozen or so vessels of this subtype from the more general Category:Service vessels. Feel free to review, or add any vessels I may have missed. Cheers. N2e (talk) 16:07, 8 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the notice, I have added a few more. N828335 (talk) 16:18, 8 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Great. Thanks for catching the ones I missed.  We've got ourselves a bonafide, and I think useful, subcategory in place now.  N2e (talk) 03:27, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

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Attention: Dispute Resolution Request started!
There has been a dispute on the article List of Starship flights. A dispute resolution request has been sent to Wikipedia. 64.121.103.144 (talk) 19:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Good, we probably need some outside opinions. I've gotten tired of discussing it, so I have not commented in a while. After thinking about it, I think we should just label SN8-SN11 as just failures, and not use 2 columns. If it was recovered: success. If it wasn't: failure. We don't need to add green boxes just to feel better for SpaceX. If it was any other company, we would do this, but SpaceX just has so many fans, which are the editors. N828335 (talk) 19:37, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

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List of Starship flights
List of Starship flights Talk page has got some things cleaned up lately.

I think you can see (learn) it takes patience to slowly see a consensus develop on some of the big questions and topics that have lots of dedicated and enthusiastic editors. In this case: it was that all that one-word armchair analysis by SpaceX fans who can hardly stand not to have a chart with colors was, in the end, original research. But that is the consensus that ultimately developed. Now more reliably sourced facts, and fewer editor fights (eventually) over what to call each launch or landing and how to color them. :)  N2e (talk) 03:59, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Attention!
I will now remove the WikiProject. Join in the discussion about making a WikiProject Spaceflight subproject at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spaceflight/NASA/SpaceX subprojects. 64.121.103.144 (talk) 15:25, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

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 * Thank you for the notice, I left my opinions about the project on the proposal page. N828335 (talk) 00:25, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

64.121.103.144 (talk) 17:38, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Rocketry
Would you be interested in joining my WikiProject, Rocketry? I am the Project Coordinator. Also, would yoube interested in being the project's assistant coordinator? 64.121.103.144 (talk) 23:30, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * No, the articles I work on more closely correlate to spaceflight than rocketry. N828335 (talk) 00:27, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Note
Remember the subproject proposals that we are working on? Can you let other people know that there is a new spaceflight subproject proposal? 64.121.103.144 (talk) 15:34, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I can maybe let a few people know, but I really am not very active at the moment. N828335 (talk) 15:38, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Please don't significantly alter other's user pages, like adding a wiki break banner. I am not on a wiki break, I said I am not "very" active, but I still make several edits per day, which is much less than in the past. However, I already have a banner on my user page addressing this, that I've added to this talk page also. N828335 (talk) 19:53, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

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Remember me? I now have an account. Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 22:20, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks for letting my know. N828335 (talk) 00:13, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Consensus seems formed, or imminent
Looks like SpaceX floating launch platform is the most consensus pick. I've left a comment on the Talk page summarizing how I see it. N2e (talk) 18:24, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

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Working Group
I have created a working group for SpaceX articles. Please help! Link: WikiProject Spaceflight/SpaceX working group. StarshipSLS (talk) 17:36, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Starship orbital test flight moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Starship orbital test flight, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:03, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

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Is the article that it went to being reworked? It was marked as deleted when I checked it. 12.186.169.130 (talk) 15:41, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It is being worked on in the draft space, Draft:Starship orbital test flight. N828335 (talk) 16:09, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Alright I'll remember that. Thanks! 12.186.169.130 (talk) 16:11, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Starship orbital test flight (May 17)
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Draft:Starship orbital test flight
I think this draft is ready to be submitted to AFC. What do you think? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 14:22, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Not quite yet. I think we should make an infobox (like other rocket launches) and work on some sourcing first. N828335 (talk) 19:53, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @N828335: Ok, I will work on that. Can you give me a link to a good infobox we could use? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 23:36, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I added one over from Falcon Heavy test flight. Infobox still needs some more work, along with some ref work. Then, it should be ready for article namespace. N828335 (talk) 23:51, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @N828335 :I've edited the infobox. Launch is not from Florida but from Texas. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 23:54, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @N828335: Where did you get the info that it is launching from Florida? The FCC exhibit says Texas. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 23:56, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching that. I copied it directly from the Falcon heavy one, guess I forgot to change that. I have some more time now, so I will work there. N828335 (talk) 00:15, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Just sent it over to be reviewed now. N828335 (talk) 00:42, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * After getting declined again, I think I will just create a section on the List of Starship flights article, and move the content there for now. This seems to be the recommendation from WP:DELAY. N828335 (talk) 20:38, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Could I continue work on the draft? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 23:51, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Just an update: I moved the entire thing to a section on List of Starship flights, so edit it there. The draft no longer exists, I created a redirect out of it. In the future, once we get a few more details, we can just replace this redirect with the actual article. I don't think the user who declined it is very familiar with rockets/Starship, which might explain their decision. A little more publicity on the launch before giving it an article might help, however. N828335 (talk) 15:26, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 15:27, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

List of Starship Flights ( Page Move/Rename )
Just so you know there's a move/rename request on List of Starship Flights that you may want to be aware of. 12.186.169.130 (talk) 19:47, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I saw that discussion, I just have not decided and responded yet. Thanks, N828335 (talk) 20:46, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Starship orbital test flight
Hi, could you please explain why you thought that a draft which was declined as AfC for good reasons now deserved to be inserted into an existing mainspace article? CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:46, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:DELAY States that "It is wise to delay writing an article about a breaking news event until the significance of the event is clearer as early coverage may lack perspective and be subject to factual errors. Writing about breaking news may be recentism, and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. It is recommended that editors start a section about the event within an existing article on a related topic if possible, which may later be split into its own article if the coverage suggests that the event is independently notable." My understanding is that we thought it was not notable for its own article at the moment, so it should be inserted as a section on a existing, highly related article.


 * Based on your declining comment, it seems like the event is not notable enough for an article (yet), and there's nothing I could change on the draft to make it more notable. This was the only option I saw besides deleting the content altogether. N828335 (talk) 17:27, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @N828335 WP:DELAY does not mean instead of waiting inserting it into a mainspace article. Wikipedia is not a newspaper nor a marketing&/promotional organization for Starship. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:30, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

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 * I agree these platforms no longer are notable after being sold, so I am not against the deletion of this article I created. N828335 (talk) 04:23, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

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Next Spaceflight
Hi, you've made Next Spaceflight a redir to NASASpaceFlight.com. Are you sure it's correct? I don't see any relation info at https://nextspaceflight.com/about/. Regards, —Mykhal (talk) 09:42, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Perhaps not anymore. When I made this redirect Next Spaceflight was mentioned on the page, but this content seems to have been removed. Therefore I would not be against deleting this redirect. See . I'm not sure about their current relation, but NASASpaceFlight does use them on their website and vice versa . Next Spaceflight was created by Michael Baylor who used to work for NASASpaceFlight but not anymore. N828335 (talk) 18:23, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

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