User talk:NCurse/Archive2

Medical genetics rating template
Great work, I was thinking the MEDGENP should have something like that. I can understand the quality scale (which we already have) although I could not see how the importance scale works, even in the Chemicals project. It is fine to have one but the grading appears arbitrary. The existing article rating could have an extra column with article importance?

One thing I noticed was that an editor complained that this type of template has been slapped on talk pages of articles where there was previously no discussion, making it appear that someone had started a discussion there, when in fact the article was just being 'claimed' by a project. It may potentially stimulate discussion, but there are so many articles under the project that I think maybe initially it should just be used on articles where a discussion already exists, or else create a discussion/To Do box   when adding the template to a new talk page. --apers0n 08:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I found this example of importance scale at the Biography project (although there are no examples of articles listed there) - if this is used in MEDGENP perhaps it could be done by incidence on genetic conditions? --apers0n 07:37, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure how to handle this because looking at incidence, some 'rare' genetic diseases are well-known, others are not, unrelated to how common they are. It's probably due to their public presentation (e.g. Down syndrome and achondroplasia being well known, compared with genetic disorders that cause abortion being seen as relatively obscure). Each article should have a section on epidemiology, and unless linked to incidence, the importance rating seems to be a bit subjective - is there another way of rating importance e.g. search engine hits? --apers0n 08:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Article rating - we should change our rating scale to match the ones used by other projects, as the templates already exist for   etc. and merge the categories genetic and congenital genetic disorders. The template merger could probably be helped by using a bot to speed things up, or get the tech people who look after categories to do it. --apers0n 13:35, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Alphabetization of article rating - Great idea, the table is much too long as it is now. --apers0n 05:40, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Ophthalmology missing from the Medicine portal
The Medicine portal does not include eyes or feature Ophthalmology as a speciality! That is indeed strange considering that Ophthalmology encompasses a tremendous amount of medicine, besides surgical procedures. Eye complaints and their management is a very common medically managed issue. Being an eye specialist, I feel that it deserves inclusion in the portal and envisage a much wider role for portal as a whole for physicians and surgeons. Excluding other surgical specialities also is, IMO, not desirable. Could you kindly take steps to ensure such an inclusion. EyeMD 14:51, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Treebark/Table
'':What if we would like to create for example a hungarian Signpost? NCurse work 17:04, 31 July 2006 (UTC)''


 * Sure, it's not as big though, so you need to tell me, Treebark, or Kpjas, and we will make arangements. Carm  el  apple  18:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Have you fond anybody yet? C  a  rm  el  apple

History of science collaboration
Thanks for voting. I hope you find time to participate this month.--ragesoss 02:06, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Version 0.5 release
I noticed that you have nominated several life science articles for release on the fixed version of Wikipedia. Do you know if you will be informed if they are accepted or rejected or if not where to look to find out? I ask you this because I’ve nominated the article photosynthetic reaction centre myself and I’m keen to find out if it has been accepted. I’ve worked hard on this article and even received a barnstar for my work so it will be fantastic if it gets published! Thanks for your help.

P.S. Nice transfer RNA above; are you interested in biochemistry too? Miller 15:22, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * If you ever want help on biochemistry articles I'm always here ready to help. I'm quite knowledgeable on that subject. Thanks for your reply. Miller 17:49, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

WikiProjects
What do you think about my changes to the WikiProjects box on the portal?--Steven Fruitsmaak | Talk 00:16, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I think it's good, easier to see the branches, what is new, what is not. Great! NCurse [[Image:Edu science.png|22px]]work 06:59, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking... because this new wikiprojects box is a lot bigger there is some free space next to it. What would you say about creating a new "Medicine news" box, a bit like the "Molecular and Cellular Biology news" box on Portal:Molecular and Cellular Biology? The only thing I'd prefer is to take stories from http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Portal:Health (and maybe Portal:Science and technology) instead of pointing to external sources. If you like the idea, I'll compose a draft version.--Steven Fruitsmaak | Talk 15:15, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Good idea! Please let me know when you are ready. I'd refresh it regularly. NCurse [[Image:Edu science.png|22px]]work 16:00, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Done, please comment.--Steven Fruitsmaak | Talk 10:52, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Great! Maybe we should change Categories and News box. What do you think? News will be refreshed regularly, categories box won't change. NCurse work 13:28, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, so I changed them.
 * I'm still thinking... what I find annoying about portals in general is that they contain a lot of info, but you have to scroll all the way down to find out. For articles you have a summary of headers at the top. I was thinking maybe we could insert some kind of navigation bar, like, perhaps under the first box? Maybe it's not a good idea 'cause there are no other portals using it.
 * Also, shouldn't we list Portal:Molecular and Cellular Biology as related?--Steven Fruitsmaak | Talk 13:56, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the change. I inserted Molecular and Cellular Biology portal, but couldn't find better image. I think the browsebar on the first box should be changed not to show Art, atc... but our boxes. What do you think? Other: I saw a Quotes box in Molecular and Cellular Biology portal. I would like to create one. What do you think of that? NCurse work 16:05, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't think Mol&Cel portal should have a better image, since it's the image they use on their portal...
 * OK.
 * Found another one: Portal:Mind and Brain, insert it?
 * I insert it.
 * I think the browsebar with the links to Art etc. should remain because it is standard for portals to have it I think. Since you like the idea of a bar with our boxes, I'll start one.
 * Please let me know when ready.
 * As you probably noticed...
 * Sure I think it would be nice to have a quotes box! Maybe it could be inserted under the Newsbox.
 * I'll create it today.
 * Nice quotes! I've edited the one about zebras from the wikipedia article...
 * Also, what do you think about my first article on WikiNews :-) I wanted our Newsbox to have SOME interesting content... :-)
 * Great! :) Interesting topic and good article... :) I didn't even know that we could write articles for WikiNews.
 * It's a Wiki, no? :-D
 * I prefer the Selected Article to have a wikilink to the subject, like Tooth enamel instead of Tooth enamel. I noticed you changed this starting from "Tuberculosis". Was there a reason? It's not thát important to me, but I think we should stick to one style convention...
 * Sorry. It is a habit on hunwiki and I get used to it. I'll follow your change. :)
 * No problemo.
 * --Steven Fruitsmaak | Talk 10:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * NCurse [[Image:Edu science.png|22px]]work 10:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

And I asked Beland to create a List of pages needing attention for Medicine Wikiproject so I'll be able to refresh To-do box regularly. Now it's hard and hopeless to search for medicine related articles in the wikify category for example. NCurse work 11:39, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Science collaboration
I won't be available. Regards. User:Samsara (talk • contribs) 20:24, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Cat Move Complete
Yup. Like the title says. Let me know if you need any more help. alpha Chimp laudare 04:29, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I've asked Alphachimp if he can also merge the two tables on the article rating page with AWB. --apers0n 07:24, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Hungarian Signpost
Anybody going to do the Hungarian Signpost yet? C a  rm  el  apple  19:41, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


 * You need to have it ready by 00:00, Spetember 17, 2006. C  a  rm  el  apple  13:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

hi,

I think it is correct, but it should be "featured on the Main Page", not "published".

(Though it's a bit hard to translate something out of context… I don't know what you want to emphasize, if your main point is that there are separate votes for featured articles and for articles on main page, it should be like "in the Hungarian Wikipedia articles must go through another voting process to be featured on the Main Page" or something like that.)

Anyway, if this Signpost is a serious something, I guess a native English speaker will proofread it when you submit it :) – Alensha    talk  17:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

amúgy meg errefelé tényleg túl kevés az angol, akit meg lehetne kérdezni és még jobban is tudnák, mint én :D – Alensha    talk  18:33, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

FA review
Hi, I like this idea of yours a lot, it should speed things up a lot. We need to be careful, though, with sections that don't have people signed up, they will have had much less debate and analysis than others. When you signed to say we should include all these, does that mean you have checked every article to see if there's an edit war on any of them? I've been working through the countries on the Country Review page in that sort of way. By the way, I am currently grading final exams from summer school, and I should have a bit more time to work on this by Monday. Thanks for all of your work! Walkerma 13:52, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, that sounds good, thanks! Walkerma 14:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

pageblanking =/= vandalism
Hi, and thanks for fixing several blanked pages. But please check the edit history before you revert; for example this and this clearly weren't vandalism: the original author blanked the page. And here the user wanted to delete the redirect, so you should have posted a link to WP:RfD on his talk page after reverting. So anyway, thanks for your work, but please think twice before calling something vandalism, and always check the page history. --Zoz (t) 15:54, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

School prank
Hi, i noticed you are also for the deletion of the article School prank. I think it is a ridiculous idea to include it on Wikipedia, im glad you agree :-) (Neostinker 21:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC))


 * Yes, it must be deleted. But it will be kept. NCurse [[Image:Edu science.png|16px]]work 21:24, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Question unrelated to melanoma
What did you use to create Image:EarthMoonSun.JPG? Looks spiffy. Opabinia regalis 00:35, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi,

I just wanted to thank you for all your hard work at the Version 0.5 FA reviews. This has really boosted the article count, and given us coverage in a lot of areas. Thanks! Walkerma 06:01, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Wangi/RFA
Thanks for your support on my RfA. Give me shout if I can be of help. Thanks/wangi 00:17, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Medportal again
I've expanded the categories box because of white space...

Also, I'd like to put this message on top of the talk page of the portal, to avoid messages about liposculpture, gene therapy, ...

Oh yeah... it's not urgent :-)

--Steven Fruitsmaak | Talk 19:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Dates in archives
Is it possible that there are a bunch of errors in the dates in the archives? We use CURRENTWEEK no, so it start at monday to sunday no? I've changed the SA-archive with my calendar next to me... am I right or am I missing something?--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 16:48, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

MEDGENP article rating for 1.0
Good idea, I will start rating articles from the bottom of the list. It would be good to put a on the Talk page to say what is missing or to be cleaned up. Hope you had a good break I'm away from 31 Aug for 5 days, but will do as much as I can before that. --apers0n 16:52, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I think it's best to put a on every talk page, even if it's an empty one, as it may give editors something to focus on. Ideally a  template (most of them will be  as they are not linked to by many pages).--apers0n 18:38, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I've been too busy this week to do much on the MEDGENP article rating, but I have seen that the todo box makes a real difference to some of the articles, it gives people something to focus on. I will continue from the bottom. --apers0n 20:02, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Regarding WikiProjects
To the best of my own inadequate knowledge, (I joined the WikiProject Council last week), I believe that we are right now discussing how to construct the list of existing WikiProjects, and specifically addressing whether or not inactive projects should be included. I am not aware of whether anyone has any specific intentions of trying in any way to formally close or delete projects. I doubt we would be able to anyway, although at some point, depending upon the discussion, we might indicate to members of a particular project that they might be best able to achieve their own goals by merging into a larger project and suggest that they consider doing so. If you have any particular input you would like to share on these matters, I would more than welcome you to offer it. I note that you are a qualified and active editor with substantial medical expertise and activity in more than one project. I believe that you, like anyone else, including me, would be more than welcome to join the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council, and that any input you might be able to offer or contacts you might be able to make, particularly within your own areas of expertise, would be very valuable. I think we only have one other member who has any real qualifications in medicine, except possibly on the receiving end. If you would be so inclined, I for one would heartily welcome you to the project. Badbilltucker 15:39, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


 * And guess who that one member is [[Image:smiley.png|15px]]? Our friend Kirill Lokshin is there too.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:45, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Signpost
Thanks for offering to help. We have contributors who usually do News and Notes and Features and Admins, but if you'd like to handle In the news, it's pretty much open right now- let me know. Ral315 (talk) 16:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


 * In the news is open right now. CatherineMunro hasn't done it in nearly two months.  Otherwise, you can write about things that happen during the week that merit their own article (this week, for example, we could have used a better article on Daniel Mayer resigning, but it was 2 in the morning when I wrote it :P)  Ral315 (talk) 06:54, 30 August 2006 (UTC)


 * When you're done with an article, post it here, and I'll take care of the rest. Our deadline is Monday at 17:00 UTC.  Let me know if you have any specific questions.  Ral315 (talk) 06:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Greetings from the World Outside the Great Plain… :D
(It always amazes me how much a user's appreciation of Miskolc can increase when said user needs me to do something… :) I've read the Signpost article and made some corrections though I don't really know how this thing is supposed to look and how long it should be. I translated the titles of the recent press releases 'cause there's no point in mentioning them in Hungarian and their title at least reveals something about their content, but now I really don't know whether it's a wise idea to select these articles of all the articles that were published about us – I know these are the most recent ones, but 3 of the 4 articles you selected are either about policital stuff or the plagium thing with Népszabadság.

Also, you didn't mention our portals :(

BTW why were those pictures selected? The Parliament photos and that Szigetvár park are nice, maybe even the photo of that ruin is good, but that church and that market hall… I don't know… there's nothing interesting about them. What was your main intention when selecting the pictures? Shouldn't we include well-known Hungary-specific images like… ugh… well… like the big yellow church in the main square of some city in the middle of the big Puszta? :D (BTW one Miskolc-related photo will be added. No, you can't do anything to prevent it. :)

Too bad we don't have "Features pictures" like EnWiki does. (wait… you just gave me an idea… :)

– Alensha    talk  18:10, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

we could also write something about the growth of our encyclopedia. 2 years ago we struggled to reach 5000 articles by the end of the year. :-) – Alensha    talk  22:48, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

kösziii, édes drága pusztalakóm :) most egy egész napig nem fogom cikizni Debrecent :) – Alensha    talk  20:31, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

FA nomination for Enzyme
Hi there. I nominated Enzyme for Featured article a while ago but am not getting many reviews. Could you have a look at it and see what you think? Thanks for your time. TimVickers 04:26, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Excellent suggestions, thank you. TimVickers 16:42, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Message
I've replied to your message on my talk page. Just in case you weren't watching. --nkayesmith 21:47, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Vanity
Is this page vanity or not: Mikhail Lebedev --GoOdCoNtEnT 07:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * He fails the professor test for the WP:BIO since he has fewer publications than an average proffesor. He is also not very significant in his field despite the references. --GoOdCoNtEnT 08:07, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Completing Version 0.5 reviews
Hi NCurse, thanks for all those science reviews, they have been very helpful to the project. With the chemical elements added, we're over 1000 articles! Now we only have about four weeks left to review articles for Version 0.5. I was wondering if you could take a look at Version_0.5/To_do and sign up for something? I'd like us to make sure we don't miss anything important. If you can update the assessments for your set nomination, too, we can review that before Sept 30. Once the end of the month rolls around we can take a well-deserved break...! Any help you can give would be most welcome. Thanks, Walkerma 20:27, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for your help, I really appreciate it! By the way, you'll be pleased to hear I finished adding all the chemical elements this morning.  Walkerma 19:15, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Long-Overdue RfA Thanks from Alphachimp

 * let me know if you need any more bottish help. alpha Chimp  laudare 01:06, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Another article finished in WikiProject Science
One June 8, 2006, you requested notification when another WikiProject Science article reached the Done stage. Soil is there. About a week ago, Walkerma nominated it for 0.5, which helped motivate me to move it along. Cheers! -- Paleorthid 17:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

JPD's RfA
Thanks, NCurse, for your support at my RfA, which finished with a tally of 94/1/0. I hope I live up to the confidence you have shown in me in my activities as an administrator. JPD (talk) 16:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I hope so! Good work! :) NCurse [[Image:Edu science.png|16px]]work 19:05, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

O.K
But still misleading info....Why not just but the number of articles now? Besides- no other report had as of 18 it was a day or two before. ForestH2 t/h/c 22:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:MED


Hi,

looks great and change was much needed over there, thx for being BOLD! Two little comments though:
 * 1) I've changed the intro to the participants list.
 * 2) Instead of showing WP:genetics on the main project page, I've put a link to all the child projects and related projects via the "wikiprojects" box of the Medportal.

PS: I'm spreading the word to get more members.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:10, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Looks perfect indeed, made some minor changes though... And your welcome to help out with the News cause it changes rapidly. But why that comment, I have worked on that article about lactose intolerance you know :-) . Btw great pictures you've chosen! --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:21, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Signpost copy editing
I think once you think it's ready you should ask a native speaker to translate it from Hunglish to English. :) I mean to properly copy edit it.

Cheers, nyenyec &#9742; 22:09, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Sig
Hi! Could you please consider removing the image from your signature, as it is against the signature guidlines. TIA!-- thund e rboltz(Deepu) 16:28, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Done. NCurse work 22:25, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Haraldskaer Woman
thanks for you positive remarks on this article. your comments were well founded and i have addressed them. hope you will revisit the article and see whether your concerns were adequately dealt with. cheers Covalent 03:08, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * thanks for your further constructive work on this article. as far as your last two items, ive added a couple of more external links (ive literally combed all of the google hits and all the rest of them are pretty worthless or wikipedia derivatives of the subject article !) note also there are one or two ext links embedded in refs. ive also created an interwiki in wikitravel/denmark and listed haraldskaer woman as a destination in vejle.  i dont know how to further note that ive done this in the wikipedia article (ive never created an interwiki before). best regards NCurse. Covalent 04:24, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

ESS GA feedback
Hey NCurse, thanks for the Evolutionarily stable strategy GA feedback. I have a couple quick questions. One is about internal link references, using the link syntax I've been using, if I link twice to the same reference, I get two different items witht he same contents appearing in the references list, there must be a way to fix this. I'd really like a pointer to the resource, if you know the answer. The second question is, whups no I've figured the second one out. Thanks again. Pete.Hurd 15:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Signpost -- Hungarian interwiki report
Hi,

I made several copyedits to your interwiki report from the Hungarian Wikipedia. Please see the diff and revert as you see fit. I am not a native speaker of Enslish and I am not completely confident in my English so the report must be revewied further by someone for whom English is the mother tongue. All the best, Kpjas 16:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Medicine-related FARs
I am traveling, and will catch up with your changes to the page once I'm home. Yes, those other articles need to be FAR'd still, but I have had such a nasty experience since the Asperger syndrome FARC, that I have held off on further work on those articles until some resolution or consensus is achieved in  this case.  Sandy 16:42, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Break
Actually, I leave Wednesday, till Friday of the next week. I'll try to make some better pictures and release them PD than the ones in the article Kos.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:13, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Pages needing attention
Hi! You've created a list for us at Medical Genetics Wikiproject. Would you be so kind as to do the same in Medicine Wikiproject? You could create a subpage for that like: WikiProject Medicine/List of pages neding attention. Thanks in advance! NCurse work 10:30, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry. I've found it: Pages needing attention/Health science, but is it a solution if I move it to the above subpage every time you refresh it? NCurse [[Image:Edu science.png|16px]]work 06:53, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. It appears that WikiProject Medicine as a link to the WP:PNA subpage now, and that seems tasteful.  If you'd like to embed the medicine-specific page in another page somewhere, you can just write  and it will be transcluded and get updates automatically. -- Beland 06:03, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer. NCurse work 13:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Lung cancer & Wikipedia 0.5
My mistake. Sorry, I thought that was where I should place an article for nomination. On the nominations page, I see that nominations have now closed. I have removed Lung cancer from the list. Axl 07:26, 11 September 2006 (UTC)