User talk:NE2/Archive 15

Nice pun, but tone wasn't right
See here. Hope that's OK. Feel free to archive the pun somewhere if you want. Carcharoth (talk) 23:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edit at List of highways numbered 19A
Your recent edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_highways_numbered_19A&diff=220028074&oldid=219947338) broke a few of the links. Rather than revert, I thought I might let you know, since you state that links on DABs should not contain piped text. However, as this page is both a list page and a DAB, perhaps this doesn't apply? DigitalC (talk) 05:40, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a disambiguation page with a strange name. Think of it like John Smith being "list of people named John Smith"; here we have a problem with some being Route, some being Highway, etc. By the way, I didn't break the links; they were broken, since the reader will want an article about the route, not a list. (If there's almost nothing to say about the route, a redirect might be best.) --NE2 05:52, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

SR-30 is the Midland trail
NE2, I'm 99.9% sure you are mistaken about modern Utah State Route 30 being part of the Midland Trail. For starters, US-6 in CA and NV is signed as the midland trail, and per everything I've ever seen it used the same route as the Lincoln highway form Ely, NV to Salt Lake, this is well over 150 miles south of where SR-30 flows. How would it get from Ely, to Montello? Also IMO it is very inappropriate to knowingly use dead links for sources, which was done with the most recent additions.Dave (talk) 21:14, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I saw the one of the two sources claimed which is valid, and I still don't believe it. Again, how and why would a trail destined for southern California go that far north that quickly? All other sources I've seen says the trail went from Grand Junction, to Salt Lake, to Ely. There is no logical reason why the route between those cities would curve that far north. The only explanation I see is the source is in error, or there were 2 iterations of the trail, or a massive realignment to the trail. Still I do not think it is appropriate to knowingly use a dead link. The whole point of a source is so the information is verifiable. how can anybody verify something that's sourced to a dead link? Dave (talk) 21:26, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, thanks for the clarification. The Ogden Standard article provided clears things up. That is inconceivable that somebody would want to take this route to LA, this is at least a 300 mile detour if not more. I strongly suspect there was politics involved also, as the Arrowhead Trail would be a much better choice and would also avoid the salt marshes. I can't imagine anybody actually used this routing full length, having driven this route myself (although split among various road trips, never one consecutive trip)Dave (talk) 21:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

North Dakota mileages
I'm currently looking for mileages for I-29 in ND. Where in the North Dakota DOT site would we be able to find the logs containing the mileages for I-29? Dabby (talk) 05:15, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't know if they are online. --NE2 05:16, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I found a page containing mileages rounded to the nearest thousandth. However it only lists four interchanges. I left the mileage notes on Talk:Interstate 29 in North Dakota. Dabby (talk) 05:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Now that you have some figures, you can search for more, and find what you wanted. (Those links are actually dead, but you can search their site for permanent signing and find the documents in Chapter 3.) --NE2 08:52, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Found the source for mileages. Thanks! Dabby (talk) 02:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Rollback
I have granted rollback rights to your account; the reason for this is that after a review of some of your contributions, I believe I can trust you to use rollback correctly by using it for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see New admin school/Rollback and Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck and thanks. PeterSymonds (talk)  20:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Just wanted to drop by and say thanks for your civility, understanding, and explanation. Thank you. Acalamari 20:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

East Millstone, NJ
Hi. Why did you change the category from Defunct Municipalities in New Jersey to Former towns in New Jersey? 98.221.133.96 (talk) 17:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Uh, me again. I'm not a deletionist by any means, but I find the category pages you created to be a bit misleading. You see, if a municipality renames itself from town to city, or borough to town, that's not quite the same thing as becoming defunct. Defunct municipalities no longer exist, hence the term defunct. I find the pages you created to actually be a bit ambiguous and unneeded, as defunct municipalites are listed with municipalites that still exist but have retitled themselves. I New Jersey, official municipal titles are irrelevant, but more importantly, the list doesn't specify which municipalities are defunct and which have retitled themselves. 98.221.133.96 (talk) 17:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It might be useful to actually create a list then. I'm hoping to get "The Story of New Jersey's Civil Boundaries: 1606-1968" through interlibrary loan, so if that happens I definitely will make such a list. --NE2 20:21, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

U.S. Route 27 Alternate (Florida)
Just for the record, I'm on your side regarding whether U.S. Route 27 Alternate (Florida) should be kept. That road is 94 miles long, and if this can be redirected, so can articles on other bannered routes with more detail. DanTD (talk) 22:54, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Same here. You noticed that I restored it. Dabby (talk) 23:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm going to start a thread on its talk page; please reply there. --NE2 23:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Utah State Route 269
Well, I passed it without really reading the section, but if its really necessary - comment on WT:GAN, maybe some kind of conclusion can be made there.Mitch32 19:08, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Control Cities
To find control cities of specific highway what source to find. Because, i don't find a source list highways specific control cities. I'm trying to see if SR 19 (Rosemead Blvd.) actually have officially control cities, and what about SR 39? I know I can't make up cities, I do see some epople doing that.-- Freewayguy  Msg USC 23:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You'd have to ask Caltrans, and get a published source. --NE2 23:51, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * What you meant by I have to ask Caltrans to get publish source? Do I have to e-mail them or call them? And have you ever been on any of California highways in your life? Can I use my LA-Orange County maps to find out?-- Freewayguy  Msg USC 23:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * No, you can't. --NE2 23:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

OR-126
Did you originally put purple (merge) tag on I-105? And why did you merge OR 126 with i-15. I-105 in OR is an existing route.-- Freewayguy  Msg USC 00:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You can find out yourself: Check its talk page too. --NE2 00:52, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

San Diego Frwy
Should we keep it merge with I-405. The whole alignment San Diego Frwy is I-405, and i-5 is the southern half. Don't San Diego Frwy have similar history and landmarks with i-405?-- Freewayguy  Msg USC 00:55, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Try Talk:Interstate 405 (California). User:NE2 doesn't look like the article about I-405. --NE2 00:57, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Golden State Frwy, this one I don't think it can be merge, becasue it has its own landmark.-- Freewayguy  Msg USC 00:56, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of Interstate Highways in New York
I responded to your comments on Featured list candidates/List of Interstate Highways in New York. Cheers, Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  13:35, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I-29 (ND)
Where did you get the photos for the exit list? I checked AARoads; it only goes from the South Dakota state line to the vicinity of Fargo. I tried StarOwl's Highway Heaven to finish up the rest of the exit list. Although StarOwl's Highway Heaven was not a reliable source, it was only the best source I could find. What visual photos did you use to clean up the list? Dabby (talk) 19:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Not photos, but driving directions: --NE2 19:24, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: SR-196
No problem, your expansion looks good (as always). And when I saw the bluelinks for SR-900 and 901, I almost had a heart attack, never expecting those two to have articles (they don't even have shields), but then I saw they were only redirects. Well, a bluelink is a bluelink. :D CL — 07:05, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think there's anything else to say about them :P --NE2 07:09, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you're right, those two are one of the most obscure in the system. I don't see the point in them (besides blocking a railroad track from crossing it, why would they want to do that), they're not signed, they're not improved like a SR, and they encompass several different roads. That, and they have a ridiculously high number that is disproportionate from all the other routes (they might as well have named them State Route Mac and State Route Cheese for all I care). That, along with UDOT's poor signing practices and absolute refusal to overlay routes, makes my day. CL — 07:23, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, that is the only reason for them - to block a nuclear waste rail spur. Otherwise they are rather like the facility routes, which also encompass several roads. --NE2 07:28, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay, I didn't know the railroad was to carry nuclear waste. Speaking of facility routes, they're really tough to expand. I just tried my hand at SR-320, there's is no way that article could ever get up to even C-class. CL — 07:35, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That was my error - the article was not clear about the purpose of the rail line. As for the facility routes, the best solution might be a single page that lists them all. There are definitely some commonalities in how they are set up that can also be on that page. --NE2 07:45, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, a list sounds best. That would sure take the load off of creating articles, I'm roughly estimating there are 10-15 routes that would fall under the list. I'll most likely get to it tomorrow (well, today) and see what I can do. CL — 07:51, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The completion list shows 31 plus some former ones. I'd leave at least some that exist outside facilities, like SR-313, as separate articles with mentions on the list. --NE2 07:53, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Largest highway
What is the largest highway in the world?  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 05:46, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't answer unless you provide a definition of size for highways, and even then I probably can't. Try the reference desk. --NE2 05:47, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Harbor and Pasadnea Frwys
I saw this over summer; the green guide displays I-110/SR-110 on Four level interchange. It will be better if we keep I-110 article just on harbor Frwy, and Pasadena Frwy only on its info.-- Freewayguy  Msg USC 16:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That sign is incorrect, and you're forgetting about the surface part in San Pedro. --NE2 17:08, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

You never even been on Four Level Interchange; and what you mean by I'm forgetting aboout surface part in San Pedro. harbor and Pasadena Frwys I thoguht is distinctive; their histories is a little different. pasadena Frwy is built in the 1950s; Harbor Frwy is built 5 to 10 years later.-- Freewayguy  Msg USC 17:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Can you asnwer this first?-- Freewayguy  Msg USC 19:26, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No. --NE2 19:28, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but I dont understand your meaning by I'm forgetting abiut surface part.-- Freewayguy  Msg USC 19:32, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Read the article about SR 110. --NE2 19:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I have Harbor Frwy and Pasadena Frwy have distinct landmarks, Pasadena Frwy is alot older by 15 years, and it use to be part of US 66 when Harbor Frwy wasn't. i-110 ends at I-10. Harbor Frwy does end in Four Level Interchange.-- Freewayguy  Msg USC 19:39, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Utah State Route 196

 * Good job with the DYK! Good job with the SLCHighways template too, I like it. CL — 18:00, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Hollywood Split
Do we have a valid source of Hollywood Split? I dug through Googel, and Yahoo I couldn't find any.-- Freewayguy  Msg USC 02:25, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

County templates
Look at the last section of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. counties for the reason for including county templates in county categories. Nyttend (talk) 12:03, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Exit list formats
Does alternate name needs to be mention on every intersections. I've been on the 605 quite many times and Green plates outside just say I-605 north or South THru Traffic; from anothr Frwy interchange lie I-5 or 405 they just say I-605 Frwy North; South without control city. Now Green plates don't post alternate names so often; even now on Four Level Interchange from Hollywood (US 101) Frwy; they just say I-110 South to San pedro; SR-110 North to Pasadena, same as Santa Monica Frwy (I-10). On exit list does every highway need to place alternate name; like saying Century Frwy from i-405 exit list; outside I see it as i-105 West to LAX Airport; East to Norwalk. Can I go by what I see outside; or i cannot do that.-- Freewayguy  Msg USC 02:26, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:MOSDAB
Duly noted. Should meet the Manual now. Cheers - CL — 22:39, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright. Glad to see you know how to work that, no way could I touch something like AWB. Thanks. CL — 23:12, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: CR 44A
You're right, my bad. Two separate highways. Working on the cleanup now. -- Kéiryn (talk) 02:29, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Deletion_review
You might want to explain your actions here... --UsaSatsui (talk) 18:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

The 110s in CA
Isn't Harbor Frwy made in 1964 while Pasadena Frwy start between 1938 and complete in 1953? This is what this site said, and 75.xxx.xxx wants both Harbor and Pasadena Frwys merge. They both suppose to be seperate page. Harbor Frwy has too much infos to merge with Pasadena Frwy. Gaffey St. I thoguht is delete part of SR 110. The RandmcNally map 2004 I have no longer have parts of SR 110.-- Freewayguy  Msg USC 16:42, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

accessdate
You're right, it's not important in the big scheme of things. I made the change as when I went through FAC last time I, and the others in line in front of me, were getting raked over the coals for consistency in the footnotes. Most of the article uses the cite templates, which uses a complete date. So I changed the others to match. IIRC an article was even failed because it was mixing the cite templates with the citation templates and/or Harvard citation templates (they are different and are for different writing styles). Dave (talk) 05:41, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Help...
NE2, I have recently installed Quantim GIS, but I am confused on how to make maps. Could you explain the software, after all you are an expert. --CG was here. 19:53, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * P.S. I have nominated List of U.S. Routes in Washington for WP:FL. (See here). --CG was here. 19:53, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't use QGIS. --NE2 23:25, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

U.S. Route 97 in Washington
Could you tell me if you are going to make a junctions list for U.S. Route 97 in Washington. If you are, please do it before August, and if you aren't, I'll do it. --CG was here. (T - C - S - E) 03:38, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I might do it; right now I'm concentrating on Utah though. --NE2 09:32, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright. I have started a list, and here it is:

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Infobox road for toll road
Please add the missing Indiana Toll Road infobox. --75.47.194.16 (talk) 09:31, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Do it yourself. --NE2 09:32, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No you do it yourself. I can't create templates anyway because i have to create a account for that. --75.47.194.16 (talk) 09:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You don't need to make an account to add an infobox to an article, and why not make one? --NE2 09:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Your answer here is a joke why not just tell me the truth rather than giving me too many lies. All pages are restricted to IP address expect for talkpages. --75.47.194.16 (talk) 09:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I have no idea what you're talking about, since Indiana Toll Road has an infobox. --NE2 09:40, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm talking about junction list. --75.47.194.16 (talk) 09:41, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It has one of those too... --NE2 09:43, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

--75.47.194.16 (talk) 09:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * So make an account and make it. --NE2 09:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Lund Highway
Just wanted to say -- nice job on the Lund Highway article! Arcane stuff, but very interesting. (I drove that road as a kid in the 1960s, BTW, and most of it was just a narrow, single lane of asphalt. When I returned last summer, I saw that the county had milled the asphalt off of all but the first few miles, so the route is now largely a gravel road.)  Cheers. Pitamakan (talk) 13:15, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Proposal to change CSD G7
Notifying you directly because you took part in the preceding discussion. Please see Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion. Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 06:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

thanks
Thanks for all your recent work on disambiguating geographical names. Stepheng3 (talk) 13:33, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Not a problem - there are a lot of places with certain names (Mill Creek, anyone?) My current project is explained at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers. --NE2 16:07, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool. I should probably join WikiProject Rivers at some point -- maybe when I get bored of Bay Area creeks.  Stepheng3 (talk) 19:03, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

"Internet archive"
How in the world did you get access to the route log for SR-195? I tried visiting that website to no avail. CL — 20:36, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Try . They obviously only have former routes that were just recently deleted. --NE2 01:00, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that whole archive service is quite useful. Too bad that I couldn't find any link for SR-181 though. CL — 06:26, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I can't either. I do have a copy I downloaded in July 2007 though. --NE2 11:54, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, could you email it to me? I set up my email on Wikipedia so the Special:Emailuser thing should work. CL — 06:24, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You can't use emailuser for attachments, but here's a copy:
 * I assume you got the old StateRouteHistory.pdf when I uploaded it a while back? --NE2 06:29, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the route log. And yeah, saw the message on WT:UTSH and downloaded it long ago. It's sitting right on my desktop - CL — 06:31, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Others on archive.org: 89 186 (these two may be useful for an article on North Temple) 237 238 239 288 --NE2 07:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Omaha transport moves
Why did you just move all of those company names to the transport names, particularly when you haven't ever had anything to do with them and a simple look at the page history would show that I have done everything to them? Good plays for WP:BOLD often make bad plays for Consensus; please don't be rude. • Freechild   'sup?   00:17, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Because the WikiProject Trains standard is to omit the "company"... --NE2 00:18, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Hiya NE2
We're trying to get Trump Tower Chicago ready for another go-around in a couple of weeks. I'm an idiot on image issues, so I don't know, but one of the images that people found acceptable at FAC was just deleted; do you have any opinion on this? See the argument at User_talk:TonyTheTiger. (feel free to reply here, I always watchlist.) - Dan Dank55 (talk)(mistakes) 13:49, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't see any problems with the current article, but I'm not very familiar with freedom of panorama and related issues about the tower itself. I'm not sure that Image:20080514 Trump Chicago Kiosk.JPG and Image:20080514 Trump Chicago Kiosk2.JPG need to be marked as unfree, since the focus of the photo is not the details of the map/ad but the kiosk itself and the fact that it contains an ad. Better safe than sorry, though, I guess. I believe that both kiosk images are appropriate given the discussion in the article.


 * Now about what you came here about: it seems to me that a cross section could be drawn from scratch, as long as the one in the PDF is only used as a general reference for what's on each floor. By the way, are 15 and 28 lobbies? --NE2 14:02, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll ask TonyTheTiger to respond. - Dan Dank55 (talk)(mistakes) 15:38, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

FAC
Thank you so much for the help with image issues at WP:FAC; most editors who engage that "line of work" burn out quickly. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 17:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I responded at the FAC for Geography and ecology of the Everglades. I note you're active at a couple other FACs. Don't make me feel left out now. --Moni3 (talk) 18:21, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

A revisit needed at Featured article candidates/Ernest Joyce. Thanks, NE2, Sandy Georgia (Talk) 22:02, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * NE2, thanks again for the image work you've done at FAC ... but can I ask you a favor? When I go back to a FAC to see if your concerns have been resolved, it's hard for me to easily locate your post, because you have a (decently) nondescript sig.  Would you mind bolding the start of your commentary, for example:


 * Reviewing only for images: ... blah blah blah?


 * I frequently revisit FACs to see where they stand, and when I'm watching for your clearance, that will help me find it easier. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 23:48, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Amusingly, I had a bit of trouble finding this section to reply :) Anyway, I'll do that if I do another batch. --NE2 00:04, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, NE2; Elcobbola used to review images (he got tired of the abuse), and I could easily scan for his BIG Red Signature to see if images had been checked :-) Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 00:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I-110
I thought this article is about harbor Frwy only. I know part of SR 110 belongs to Harbor Frwy; but Gaffey St. I thoguht is delete part of SR 110. LA-Orange County maps is simply outdate. Pasadena Frwy is on its own page; on i-110 and SR 110 we have no place to write about Pasadena Frwy.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 18:37, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No. --NE2 18:40, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Those two routes have sufficiently enough history to be a seperate page. harbor Frwy is commission at 1964 just like most California highways; Pasadena Frwy is alot older, commission in the 1940s. You know I post you the link photos on Four Level Interchange of Hollywood Frwy northbound. We had this conversation earlier.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 18:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I never seem to have a conversation with you. I try to figure out what you are saying and often fail. Please work on improving your English. --NE2 18:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I already reported Freewayguy to WP:AIV. --75.47.138.12 (talk) 18:46, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * He's not vandalizing, so I don't think anything will happen. --NE2 18:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * i meant this photo Hollywood Frwy northbound. Those two routes have enough historical information to kept both a seperate page. I know part of Harbor Frwy is part of SR 110, Gaffey St. is delete part of SR 110. It use to exist of Gaffey St, now its gone from Gaffey St. About my English; its tough to work on; its tough for me to fix my English skills; because my vocab level is not that high. English is not an easy language to pick up though, and its not my fault.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 18:53, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Gaffey Street is still part of SR 110, as is the Harbor Freeway between I-10 and US 101. --NE2 18:54, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Are you sure? Then why mapquest did not mark it as SR 110. Mapquest is usually accurate on mappings.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 20:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Caltrans knows what they maintain. --NE2 20:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Then why is SR 42 a delete route? i still see it passing I-605 and I-5.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 20:22, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Why is SR 42 deleted? Because Caltrans no longer maintains it. --NE2 20:22, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * What does this means when Caltrans no lomger maintains it. I do have a limit on vocab levels and its not my fault. Does this matter what mapquest identifies and what I see outside from I-605 or 5?-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 20:25, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * maintain, verb definition 1. --NE2 20:26, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Washington, D.C.
Hi. I noticed on the WP:FAC page that you are a proficient image license reviewer. I am preparing to nominate Washington, D.C. for FA status in the next few weeks and would appreciate if you could review the images. If you have time to look at the article, there is an open peer review to make comments. Thank you for your help. Best, epicAdam (talk) 20:34, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Otherwise it looks good. --NE2 20:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Image:L'Enfant plan.jpg could use more sourcing information, but I'm sure it's public domain.
 * Image:DC 2003 SAMPLE.jpg looks sketchy. If it can be sourced, it would definitely be valid fair use, but I can't see it being public domain.
 * Hi. Thanks for taking a look at those. I found the original source at the Library of Congress for the L'Enfant engraving. It's definitely in the public domain.


 * As for the license plate, I can see the trouble with it. I believe the user who uploaded the image took a photograph of a license plate and altered it to say "SAMPLE"; I have not been able to find the exact image anywhere else. The DC government does not provide images of license plates, either. So as for the "source" it probably is this guy who uploaded his own altered photograph.


 * As for what I can tell about copyright laws concerning license plates, nothing about the license plates themselves are copyright-protected except non-trivial images and logos (like, on organization vanity plates). The only image on Image:DC 2003 SAMPLE.jpg is the D.C. flag, which is not eligible for copyright protection anyway. The slogan "Taxation Without Representation" is not eligible for copyright because the phrase is not stylized in any unique manner nor can governments apply for trademark protection. My only question would be, then, can I just replace the license info? If so, what do I replace it with? A fair-use rationale? Thanks again for your help. Best, epicAdam (talk) 22:15, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Follow up: The image of the license plate isn't eligible for copyright protection. According to the United States Copyright Office, names, slogans, and familiar symbols or designs are not eligible for copyright protection. So there it is. I put that information under the licensing rationale. Best, epicAdam (talk) 23:31, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I-210
Should I-210 and SR-210 be kept merge. Originally; I see you put the purple tag on I-210 and SR-210 page after you fix the infobox, amy I ask why you want them merge. I-210 is alot older than SR 210. i thought and I-210 use to end at kellog Interchange near West Covina. The SR-210 was sign after 2003 when Caltrans eliminate part between old SR 30 and kellog Interchange, though the SR 30 still exist between I-215 and I-10 east of San Bern.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 23:22, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

i didn't put the purple tag on both I-210 and SR-210; I see you propse that merge. I just merge base on the tag. I just want to know why is that neccessairly.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 23:37, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: Alleyway
Are you sure the image would be better off removed? I was using the Japanese box art to show the significant difference, as well as the fact Mario was not shown to be the pilot until the game's international release. Would a better caption suffice instead?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 17:07, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Washington State Route 531
Washington State Route 531 has recently passed its GA and is up for A-Class review. According to the article history of the article, you are a contributor to this article. Please leave comments at this link. --CG was here. (T - C - S - E) 17:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Ernest Joyce
I have dealt with your outstanding concerns with the images on this article, which unfortunately has meant deleting one where I cannot establish a date of publication before 1923. But that's life. Thank you for your interest. Brianboulton (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

July 2008
Template:Infobox road/GA/shield BL Template:Infobox road/GA/shield BS are for Interstate Business and Template:Infobox road/GA/shield SR-Bus are for Georgia State Route Business are missing and i urge you to add it now because it is showing it on Interstate 75 in Georgia and Interstate 575. --75.47.129.198 (talk) 08:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Tech question
How did you get AWB to do this? I like to have it go into all of the talk pages of all the articles listed on WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/New articles and add if it's not already there. Do you know how to do that?--Appraiser (talk) 13:12, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

First get a recursive list from Category:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places (this may take a while). Save this list as a text file. Save the list on WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/New articles as a text file and import it (after clearing the category list). Convert to talk, and filter by finding the difference with the category list. Then use "prepend" in the "more" tab. --NE2 13:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Hercules (1907)
Hi ... Why did you tag Hercules (1907) talk page with the template? It's a tugboat. Does if fall under the scope of WPT because it was once owned by Western Pacific Railroad? Just wondering. --Sanfranman59 (talk) 15:38, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes; it was a car float for 33 years. --NE2 15:40, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ahh ... thanks for educating me! --Sanfranman59 (talk) 23:24, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Suspected sock puppets/75.47.129.129
Damm it! NE2 review this report and go tell this user off royal. I don't care what it takes but just get it done is it clear?! --75.47.130.250 (talk) 16:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing me there :) --NE2 16:34, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, much appreciated. --75.47.130.250 (talk) 16:36, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You might actually be interested in what admin Geniac has uncovered. Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Artisol2345. -- KelleyCook (talk) 17:41, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Fourteenth Street Bridghe
What possed you to move Fourteenth Street Bridge? There's no need for disambigation, as it's the only one on Wikipedia, or likely to be on Wikipedia.-- Bedford Pray  16:46, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Uh... there are two: 14th Street Bridge (Ohio River) and 14th Street Bridge (Potomac River). --NE2 16:47, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

USRD Maps
Former SR 31 requires a map. Can you add a map if you have time for this one. --75.47.207.22 (talk) 23:11, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No, because it should be merged with I-15. --NE2 23:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Then why the merge hasn't been started? That merge tag was removed by me for a long time. --75.47.207.22 (talk) 23:15, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Roadfan AFD
That Crosscut.com article? I wrote it :) --Lukobe (talk) 23:25, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I-210 merges
Did you tag the I-210 and SR-210 articles for merge? Don't those two routes have similar informations or like in alot of ways. I know SR-210 is made in the 2000s and the I-210 is like made in the 1960s. I know both i-210 and SR-210 is Foothill Frwy.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 03:18, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Interstate 5 Truck Route
Can you add these following infobox templates: Template:Infobox road/CA/abbrev I-Trk Template:Infobox road/CA/link I-Trk Template:Infobox road/CA/shield I-Trk. Interstate 5 has a truck route in Tunnel Hills next to I-210 (Foothill Freeway) and SR 14 (Antelope Valley Freeway). --75.47.149.223 (talk) 20:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No, since those are just truck lanes. --NE2 20:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, Caltrans added all of the exit numbers for the truck lanes. --75.47.149.223 (talk) 20:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Ian Johnson (cricketer)
Hi NE2, SandyGeorgia has asked if your concerns about the image sourcing at Featured article candidates/Ian Johnson (cricketer) have been addressed. I think I have, but could you confirm? Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 02:12, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Reference question
How would I reference the PDF you gave me for the route log of SR-181 (I'm working on it now)? CL — 05:04, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Probably give as much information you can, including the date UDOT generated it. --NE2 05:13, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to grasp what you meant... is it something like this? CL — 05:23, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, don't call it a route log, because UDOT calls it Highway Reference Information. --NE2 05:33, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I'll use it in the manner presented below if that's good. CL — 05:54, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Amity, NY
Please stop edit warring over this. First, Amity isn't notable: it has neither its own fire district, a school or road with the name, a developed center, or a ZIP code. Nor is it a CDP. It's real, but not everything real is notable. You need to explain its notability better than that. Second, you can't develop this beyond stub level ... believe me, I know this particular area. One of many onetime communities in New York that have simply left behind only a name someone used to fill blank space on a map. All Wikipedia needs to say about it can be said in one or two sentences at Warwick, New York. It can never be developed above stub level. It's better off as a redirect to the town article. I have defended you when you've been this difficult over at USRD ... please do not make me regret it enough to request protection. Daniel Case (talk) 05:56, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Real communities are notable enough for articles. --NE2 06:01, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Not according to WP:NPT, which is admittedly under consideration but makes pretty good sense to me. Will you stop explaining yourself with pithy generalities for once? I am really getting the impression you've not learned much from all three of the times you've been taken to RFC. You're engaing in the exact same behavior now. In any event I have opened an AfD on this one because it's the only way I can think of to settle this. Daniel Case (talk) 15:37, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppet case involving 75.47.*
Suspected sock puppets/Artisol2345 (2nd) -- KelleyCook (talk) 22:34, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

WWRC
Whence the notion they're a freight carrier? They may have hauled a little freight in the early days, but I don't think they do so anymore, and I don't know of any remaining traffic sources on line; NVF is moribund, and I can personally vouch for the fact the siding there hasn't been used in years. Choess (talk) 19:47, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You're probably right, but we do have the AAR saying that they operate freight: It's probably a technical distinction where they are required to provide freight service if any shows up. --NE2 19:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

North Spokane Corridor
NE2, could you please make a map (svg) of the location of the North Spokane Corridor? There is a WSDOT map right here and I would like the map to be located at Image:North Spokane Corridor.svg. --CG was here. (T - C - S - E) 21:24, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Probably not, at least at this time. --NE2 21:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

SR 107 (CA)
Does SR 107 still exist or its eliminate?I still see it on CSC code and I still see the SR 107 post out passing it on i-405 Frwy. The Truck list site still shows Route 107, except they highlight it in gray in the column. I don't know what all these colors on Truck List is for, so I'm confuse if SR 107 is still maintain by Caltrans or not.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 01:44, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * SR 1 to Redondo Beach Boulevard. Every route has a gray background on trucklist. --NE2 02:47, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Whats those colors like yellow, pink, and blue for? THose colors on California trucklist confuses me, and I can't even determine if route still exist or not. I thought SR 47 runs from SR 1 to like Sepulv. Blvd I thgouht. I thguoht the section between Sepulve. Blvd and SR 91 is eliminate. On CSC code they still say SR 47 runs from SR 1 to i-10. On mapquest they say exit on Alameda St (CA-47). This I'm not positive if SR 47 ends at Sepulv Blvd. or SR 91.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 03:01, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Can you tell me what's the color on Truck List for? Its only confusing.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 03:17, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * If you're confused, please don't make related edits. --NE2 03:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Isn't mapquest a trust source? The CSC code mark the SR 47 to I-10 is because it was originally plan to extend it to meet the I-10, only so they can make SR 1 a Freeway. Anything unbuilt yet still mark on CSC code. Can I count on mapquest or I cannot? I'm asking you because I thought you have been to California, and its better to ask and do them right than misunderstand them and make errors.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 03:30, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * No, Mapquest is not more reliable than Caltrans. --NE2 14:26, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

bugzilla link
You can link to bugzilla requests with the syntax where #### is the bugzilla number. I filed a duplicate of your bug about redirect fixer and section links, thinking you did not file a bug because you didn't link to one. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 02:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I filed the bug some time after I made the village pump post. --NE2 03:14, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Just to minimize confusion, since many people who post to the VP don't know how to file bugs, it might be better to consider posting the bug first, so you can link to it right away. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 03:18, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Translation link...
takes me to "The Cincinnati Lancet and Clinic." Did you have a couple of browser windows open and copied the wrong add? Leaving this here since it's too minor a mistake  of mine to clog an already-bloated thread with.

Oh, and while I'm here I might as well make this disclaimer: If anything I write comes across personal or nasty or biased, please let me know. This is a contentious area, and I often have problems with my "tone" not being read the way I intend.

brenneman 04:45, 25 July 2008 (UTC)


 * That's the right link - it's an article from that magazine (?) from 1895. --NE2 04:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That was utterly non-obvious to me, sorry to be dense. - brenneman  04:51, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

SR 33 (CA)
Does SR 33 have any ohter names besides Ojai Freeway? I don't hear any other names of SR 33 besides Ojai Freeway, any Caltrans website don't mention other names besides ojai Frwy. i'll check the west coast highways, maybe I'll find out on that webiste. I believe I went on it last year I didn't pay attention ot those names since I was so new to those scenic routes, possibly concur of SR 41 or SR 46 the ones I know I was on.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 21:11, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

i took a look at West Coast Highways, and I don't find any other names to scenic routes besides Ojai Freeway.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 21:13, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

It probably doesn't. Don't guess. --NE2 21:14, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I found this on google maps; Its maricuopa Highway, and West Side Highway-thats northeast of I-5 I beleive. It has alot of other alternative names. Everytime I go on scenic route, I always have to scratch my mind like 10 times, to guess what highway I was on. And sometimes I have to go on major highway like SR 99 to find out what strange route I was on.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 21:26, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Grant Street
The new article (at 'Grant Street (Pittsburgh)' rather than the original 'Grant Street' location) seemed to contain even less context than the original with no sources, and any claim to notability seems stronger in the deleted article if anything. You are welcome to go ahead and create a new page, with references and claims to notability. It still seems to just say that it is a street and only gives normal (uncited) properties inherent to any street (length, name and termini) and a (significantly shorter) list of buildings. Ian¹³/t 21:26, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Middlesbrough and Guisborough Railway
Hi. I am interested to see where you've changed Middlesbrough & Guisborough Railway to Middlesbrough and Guisborough Railway and to understand that it is in line with, erm, some policy or other. I'm not a railway expert or anything and I honestly don't want to get into 5,643 pages of policy docs on the ampersand so I just wanted to ask you - before I make a fool of myself trying to "helpfully" edit things! - whether the change from "&" to "and" is meant to be general, encompassing all the places where the M&G is mentioned, including captions and diagrams etc as well as text? Or is there some other rule regarding this, that I should be aware of before I start blundering around in Guisborough or Nunthorpe or whatever?! Sorry if I am being thick (or even megathick) but a word of guidance would be greatly appreciated! Cheers. DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered (talk) 07:50, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't believe there's any such guideline. I personally use "and" in text (unless abbreviating like M&G), but that's just my own style. The standard for article names is at WikiProject Trains/Manual of style, but I don't see anything about usage in article text. --NE2 09:14, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for that. Best wishes DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered (talk) 15:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Grand Rapids Eastern Railroad and others
I deprodded these because WP:PROD should not be used on redirects. You need to bring these to WP:RFD. And honestly, I don't see the problem with Michigan Southern Railroad (1986). --UsaSatsui (talk) 12:58, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * From PROD: "Only articles may be proposed for deletion. The only exceptions to this rule are pages in the User and User talk namespaces which may be proposed for deletion if the user has no recent edits and has made few or no contributions to the encyclopedia.". Redirects aren't articles, and the deletion threshold is much higher.  --UsaSatsui (talk) 18:46, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's talking about namespaces; only pages in the main/article namespace may be prodded. --NE2 18:48, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it's not...I don't know how else to say it. Redirects simply aren't eligible for deletion this way.  --UsaSatsui (talk) 22:39, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * So why should I believe your interpretation is correct? --NE2 23:01, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Because that's what actually happens. Redirects and articles are different, that's why we have different processes for deleting them (AFD and RFD).  Redirects are not articles, PROD is used on articles.  The term "mainspace or "articlespace" is never used.  Arguing with me doesn't change that.  --UsaSatsui (talk) 02:31, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I honestly don't believe you. --NE2 03:15, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I honestly don't care. Take it up with someone else, if you like.  Until then, see you at RFD.--UsaSatsui (talk) 03:29, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of North Dakota Avenue (Washington, D.C.)
An article that you have been involved in editing, North Dakota Avenue (Washington, D.C.), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/North Dakota Avenue (Washington, D.C.). Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? —D. Monack talk 20:06, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

USRD Newsletter, Issue 5
Apologies for the late delivery; here is the June edition of the newsletter.


 * Want to help on next month's newsletter? Don't want to receive these in future? Want to change your method of delivery? – It's all here. —Rschen7754bot (talk) 21:01, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

GA Review of U.S. Route 89 in Utah
Hello. I recently reviewed the article U.S. Route 89 in Utah for a GA promotion. The article was nominated by User:Splat5572, but seeing as this user is under accusation of being a sock, and his talk page is protected, and you seem to be the dominant editor of this article as of late, I figured I should notify you of its status. The article is very good; it is very close to achieving GA. However, there are some things I'd like to see taken care of; I've left comments on the article's review page. The nomination is currently on hold.

Obviously, since you didn't nominate the article, you have absolutely no obligation to improve it to GA status, and I realize and respect this. However, you have been editing this article liberally (a commendable effort, by the way), and I would hate to see this fine article failed due to a lazy nominator. If you would like to improve this article, your resolve is commendable, and if not, your motives are very sensible. Either way, I would appreciate a reply so that I may determine a course of action for this nomination. Thank you, Robert Skyhawk (Talk) 01:22, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Road infobox for Utah
Now that we have List of numbered highways in Utah and List of state highways in Utah, we need to make modifications to the road infobox for Utah. Of course, I have absolutely no idea what to do, so I was wondering if you knew the procedure in order to change the infobox. Cheers - CL — 05:37, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Why do we have both of those? All numbered highways in Utah are state highways. --NE2 05:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree that the titling is confusing, but Maryland does it that way (not that it justifies it, but they made it an FL) and Admrboltz sure put in a lot of effort into it. Perhaps a change in name, but something that flows better than "List of Interstates and U.S. Routes in Utah". Not the best in titles, eh? CL — 05:46, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see why the split is necessary in the first place - there are five Interstates and only a few more U.S. Routes. --NE2 05:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Take it up with Ad then. For now, as we have two articles, something needs to be done. However, we can just leave it at the two disambiguation notes on the top of both pages. Whatever floats your boat - CL — 05:56, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh - I forgot to teach you to fish. Filter "what links here" for the list by namespace: --NE2 06:19, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Now that is a prime example of having power in your hands! Thanks for the tip, I'll attempt to rectify the problem myself if that's okay, but by all means, if you'd like to do it, go ahead :) CL — 06:22, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, using my limited WikiTemplating knowledge, I did something. What do you think? CL — 06:28, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That works too. CL — 06:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I forgot to mention there's also Template:Infobox road/UT links for a second line, but I don't think we need that. How about the way it is now? (I left a link to state highways in Utah; maybe we can have a separate descriptive page like state highways in Washington.) --NE2 06:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * That's actually a good idea. Too bad we don't have a robotic user that creates these types of articles with the blink of an eye. Another thing while I'm here: that map for List of numbered highways in Utah, is it out-of-date? It shows a U.S. highway on the extreme southwestern corner of the state; is this former US-91? CL — 06:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes - that's US-91 (also near Parowan). It also has US-6 and US-89 before the overlaps with I-15 and I-70, and an extra stub of US-40 at the Jordanelle Reservoir. --NE2 06:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll notify Algorerhythms. CL — 19:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Foothill Blvd.
Does Foothill Blvd. even use to be part of SR 210? You have a source? This is what you wrote on intersection tables. I was wondering why earlier you suggest SR 210 to be merge into I-210. Wasn't I-210 complete in 1971? or was I-210 once part of SR 210.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 19:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Diffs please. --NE2 20:10, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

This and SR 39 on major intersection you put Foothill Blvd. as Former SR 210.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 20:26, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * --NE2 20:29, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Do you even understand the link you post?It said nothing like SR 210 use to be Foothill Blvd. Thier numbers is strange and tough to understand. On Los Angeles-Orange County map 1963 plan whats the 9 (210)mean? And was I-210 formerly SR 210, because thats not what I've learnt.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 23:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I do understand it, and the dual system of legislative and sign routes before 1964. You apparently don't. That map is showing that what was Legislative Route 9 pre-1964 became Route 210. It was, for the record, signed as US 66. --NE2 23:11, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually what does Legislative Route pr 1964 mean? Was SR 30 also formerly sign as US 66 in past,but its sign as SR 210, and eventually will be I-210. This makes sense to keep I-210 and SR 210 seperate page, or keep both of them merge?-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 23:20, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Look more closely at the SR 39 junction list. It says "former Route 210", not "former SR 210". This was Route 210 beginning in 1964, but was signed as US 66. When the freeway was completed, Route 210 was moved to it, and it was signed as I-210. --NE2 23:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Eastshore Freeway
Splatt7752 has been messing up the list by bringing the list from Eastshore Freeway to I-80 (CA). i don't know why the heck he does this. Should Eastshore Freeway be merge into i-80 because I doubt so. it seems like it have enouhg information to kept a seperate page like Golden State Freeway.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 16:20, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Can you answer questions for us. Splat5572's duplicating exit lists from Golden State, Santa Ana, San Bernar, Eastshore, Central, Hollywood, Ventura Freeways by putting the back on I-5, US-101, i-10, I-80 articles. The exit lists is display on thier own page, so they don't need to display on the provincal page.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 17:42, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, but I'm tired of dealing with the constant warring in California. --NE2 18:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I am too. I've war with 75.47 in the past, and usually his contributions does not conform to WP:MOS, and also he mess up Exit lists by adding possibly made-up stuff, or he sometimes does something to violate WP:ELG. Should I undo all the changes Splat5572 made to i-5, i-80 and US 101?THe portions seems to be duplicate to Golden State, Santa Ana, Eastshore, Bayshore, Hollywood, Ventura Freeways.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 21:44, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Your editing can be a problem too. --NE2 23:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * At least i ask and clarify material when I'm not certain, but I try my best. Usually I just misunderstand informations, and thoguht wrong. I don't like to sutdy books or novels, this is why my English is still rusty. See my userpage for my infos.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 01:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Why you say my contributions can be a problem. Additional comments this is a place to comment. Mostly I assume good faith, once again I don't like to hang out on books, lots of vocab I still don't know. See my userpage to know more.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 01:12, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

"5572"
Well "" was taken, so I had to put some number in my username when I registered this account. "5572" was the last four digits of my lucky ticket number, so I figured "5572" is easy to remember. (And please don't mind that periodically I retire an account, change my password so I can't get back in, and come back to Wiki under a new account. This is technically not against policy, and I have my reasons for doing this.) --Splat5572 (talk) 16:44, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed, but please don't create usernames that may be too similar to that of another user, such as . :) seicer &#x007C; talk  &#x007C; contribs  17:14, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That was just a test experiment, seeing if notices that I created that account. Splat5572 (talk) 17:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

RR - Classes
On ARR reclassification from Class II to Class III?

The ARR article says: "In 2006, the company earned a profit of $10.4 million on revenues of $148.9 million, $132.7 million of which was operating revenue."

49CFR1201 says: "1-1 Classification of carriers. (a) For purposes of accounting and reporting, carriers are grouped into the following three classes:
 * Class I: Carriers having annual carrier operating revenues of $250 million or more after applying the railroad revenue deflator formula shown in Note A.
 * Class II: Carriers having annual carrier operating revenues of less than $250 million but in excess of $20 million after applying the railroad revenue deflator formula shown in Note A.
 * Class III: Carriers having annual carrier operating revenues of $20 million or less after applying the railroad revenue deflator formula shown in Note A.
 * Note A: The railroad revenue deflator formula is based on the Railroad Freight Price Index developed by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The formula is as follows: Current Year's Revenues x (1991 Average Index/Current Year's Average Index)"
 * 49CFR1201 - 49 CFR Chapter X Surface Transportation Board, General Instructions 1-1

For specific citation/references, see Talk:Alaska Railroad
 * Since ARR operating revenue was $132.7 million (2006), what were the BLS "Railroad Freight Freight Price Index" for 1991 and current?

All the Class articles, Class Templates, and List of Class ... probably need updating. I will research GC.CA (Canada) when I get a chance and post any information on the Talk:Class I railroad page to consolidate things there. LeheckaG (talk) 12:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

NYST
Can we call those shields NYS? The problem is that Image:I-00 NY.svg already existed, and NYS seems to close to another file.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 21:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Why not upload over Image:I-95 (NY).svg? That's just a duplicate of Image:I-95.svg. --NE2 21:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Then what should we do with Image:I-190 (NY).svg. Image:I-190 (NY).svg and Image:I-190.svg are similar, but not exactly the same.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 21:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Who cares? They're close enough. Of course this is assuming New York actually does use the state name, something you can't be trusted on. --NE2 22:14, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:I-190 (NY).svg|100px|left]]This one is not uploaded or requested by me. It was uplaoded a while ago by users who think it looks cool. New York actually uses neutral shields, look on the map on interstate-guide, New York is shaded in black, and also it is listed on the bottom of the page as states with few state shields. Since Commons is different from Wikipedia, deleting it just because it no logner specifies state-name specific is not a good reason.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 22:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Exit lists on I-5, i-80, and US 101
Can you please remove some extra samples from Santa Ana, Golden State, Ventura, Central, and Bayshore Freeways. Those lists already existed on those pages, and there is no point it to have it show up on I-5, 80 and US 101 again or to duplicate an exit list again when it's not that needed. Wikipedia is not an mapquest, so agreed?-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 23:44, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not dealing with it. --NE2 23:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've just gone through war just to fight over Spltaa5572's changes over and over again. We both got warned by warring. Have you ever gone through war?-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 23:55, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I dropped the bomb on 'nam back in '45. --NE2 00:08, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

continues to put the Santa Ana, Golden State Freeway back to exit list on I-5,and Hollywood, Ventura Freeways back to exit list on US 101, and Easthsore Freeway back to exit list on I-80. This tells me we don't no longer need exit lists on Golden State Freeway anymore. I'm not going to go through those wars again because I was blocked for 24 hours, and I just got out of it.

Splat and AL2TB and RFAR and Freewayguy and 75 IP and...
What's going on? It's really hard to follow this when you're only on once or twice a week... --Rschen7754 (T C) 21:28, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not really following it either, but last I saw Splat (AL2TB's new name) was re-adding for instance Santa Ana Freeway exits to the I-5 exit list and Freewayguy was reverting, and both got blocked for 3RR/edit warring. It was also confirmed that Splat does not edit from 75.47.*, so he's either a skilled sockmaster (which I find doubtful) or a different person. --NE2 22:14, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well for your information, the 75.47 user moved to 69.144.110.50. Geolocate shows the IP is from Jackson, Wyoming; I'm still in Orange County, California so therefore we're two distinct users. Splat5572 (talk) 23:41, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Copyright question
UDOT's installed overhead signage on I-215 northbound prior to the Legacy Parkway exit. It appears as if they're going to sign LP with its logo (the logo on the upper left here) rather than an SR-67 shield. I have the image ready for uploading but I don't know what image tags I could put on it. Since you seem to be the copyright expert, do you have any advice as to what rules apply to this image? Thanks - CL — 01:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * You can copy the code from Image:183A toll road.png and make the appropriate changes. --NE2 01:13, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Alright, thanks - CL — 01:18, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Utah State Route 68 (PR)
Could you make any suggestions/comments on the peer review before I suggest the article for GA? Thanks! -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 06:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll take a look soon. --NE2 06:34, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Hest Bank North Junction
Hi. You removed the PROD from this article (and the South Junction), stating It's notable enough for a mention and redirect somewhere, Could you please supply some evidence of this notability? As far as I'm aware, these are just two ordinary junctions like any other in the country. Alternatively, if you think they can be redirected, please make some suggestions as to where. I intend to send these to AfD shortly unless these issues are resolved. See also the discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways. —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 06:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It could be mentioned in a nearby station article, or in a list of railway junctions in the UK. --NE2 07:01, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * They are not linked from any articles - they are orphaned. Even if they were, there are many things listed in articles; this does not automatically confer notability. —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 07:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I said they were notable enough for a mention somewhere, and a redirect would obviously make sense. --NE2 07:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but that argument doesn't hold water. As they are not linked from anywhere, I see nowhere to redirect them to, except possibly somewhere like Bare Lane railway station, which would only create a circular link in any case. If you can come up[ with a valid reason to keep these articles, feel free to place your comments at the AfD. —  Tivedshambo  (t/c) 07:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Washington State Route 531 at PR
Please comment at WikiProject Highways/Peer review/Washington State Route 531 if possible. Thanks! ĈőмρǖтέŗĠύʎ890100 (t ↔ Ĕ ↔ ώ) 17:27, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

"Freeway 101 (XXXX)" at WP:AfC
Hi, I created the redirects per requests by the IP, working backwards through the list, and therefore saw your comment last. As a Brit, I don't really know how referred to the roads are as "freeway" - if you want, I'll just tag them with CSD G7 if you really object to their existence. -  Toon  05  17:43, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

SR-202 rail
At map of SR-202], I am assuming the RR on the right that curves away from the route is the Kennecott line, but is the line that crosses east to west under SR-202 the Feather River Route? -- Admrb♉ltz (t • c • [ log]) 23:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It originally started out waaay to the south as two parallel tracks of the UP and WP (the latter was also known as the Feather River Route). It later became a double-track joint line, and the UP took over the WP in 1983. Due to expansion of Kennecott's tailings pond, it's been moved to the north twice (the latter is not shown on the map but is on aerials). It's now the UP's Lynndyl Subdivision.
 * As for the parallel line, I believe that's Kennecott, but it may be a UP spur track. --NE2 00:04, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Interstate 77 in North Carolina
Why you removed the major rivers from exit list? The previous problem is background colours when the colspan used to be shaded in gum blue. Should the body waters be mentioned on exit list or not? I thought we just can't use background colors such as gum blue.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 23:48, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Check the WT:ELG archives. --NE2 23:51, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Archieve what to check? I don't see it. And should parking and rest areas also belongs on exit list?When I looked on talkpage, the ELG warning is still marked.-- Freewayguy Call? Fish 00:08, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, it was at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Archive 13. --NE2 00:12, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Ohio Central Railroad
diff "They don't actually operate in Pennsylvania." My understanding is that they do: "Ohio Central Pittsburgh Lines, THE PITTSBURGH & OHIO CENTRAL RAILROAD COMPANY, (P&OC): Commenced operation in 2000 on 43 miles of line formerly owned and operated by the Pittsburgh Industrial Railroad. The P&OC Main Line extends from Neville Island on the Ohio River near Pittsburgh to Arden, Pennsylvania with branches to Esplen and Armstrong Mills." At least one other line of theirs operates in Pennsylvania. Is this not what's meant for that category? Additionally, I'd be interested in your input on whether or not the various short lines should be merged into the main Ohio Central article. --Rkitko (talk) 01:29, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


 * That's the Pittsburgh and Ohio Central Railroad, which is in Category:Pennsylvania railroads. As for merging, I'm not too familiar with the railroads, so I don't know how separate the operations are. --NE2 01:32, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:Salmon-river-1.jpg
Why would this photo be deleted if I specify non-commercial? Please point me to the WP rule that requires it to be available for commercial use. I uploaded this 4 years ago and it has never been questioned before. --Robbie Giles (talk) 00:29, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Image use policy --NE2 00:33, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. --Robbie Giles (talk) 01:37, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. --NE2 01:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

AfC
Hello, I've replied to your post on Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation. Best wishes, MSGJ (talk) 08:30, 10 August 2008 (UTC)