User talk:NTox/Archive 4

Some baklava for you!

 * Glad to help. NTox · talk 19:57, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Rename
I just made my reason clearable and also changed the "For bureaucrat use" field because I'm not actually sure if that was the rename one. - Mr. Tagle (talk) 21:33, 2 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay. Thanks for clearing that up. NTox · talk 22:18, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out!
Thanks for pointing out the conflict of interest articles. I have been reading Wikipedia for a long time, but I have not edited much so I am not familiar with a lot of the guidelines and conventions. There are so many!

It's true that I am affiliated with the institute, but I was editing because the existing article was very out-of-date (about 2 years!) and did not match up with current available source material. If you look at the information that I have added, it is all sourced from publicly-available documents and official websites. Sorry for any confusion, I guess I should change my username. Is there anything else I should be doing to avoid confusion?

Thanks again. Quantumiqc (talk) 15:14, 7 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Responded on your talk page. NTox · talk 16:48, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

how can my name violate wikipedia ?
my name is RICKYBADBOY and can you tell me how can my name violate your terms ? you can also check on google .. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RICKYBADBOY (talk • contribs) 10:29, 8 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Responded on your talk page. NTox · talk 16:48, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: UAA report
I'm sorry, I'm in the wrong on this. I was distracted by looking at the user sandbox, and a few other things, and I neglected to check deleted contributions as I usually do. Purely my mistake. I see Yunshui handled it, which is good. Thank you for letting me know! - Vianello (Talk) 13:17, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries. Take care. NTox · talk 15:05, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Hotcat / User talk:Colombiajournal‎
Hey, I added the COI username template to that page automatically using twinkle (not custom just the one from the gadgets section) - if there is a problem with having that category - you should probably get the twinkle devs to edit what is added automatically so that it does not keep cropping up, Thanks AlasdairEdits (talk) 06:23, 12 September 2012 (UTC)


 * There's no problem; that category is added to talk pages as it should be. The point is that it's a cat used for tracking active user accounts. Once an account is blocked or inactive for seven days someone will remove it manually - as I often do. This is explained at CAT:UAA. And even if it was being added inappropriately in the first place, that wouldn't be a Twinkle issue. All Twinkle does is pull the code from the template and substitute it on the page. NTox · talk 06:37, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for explaining. Dunno if you are using a semi-automated tool to do that kind of maintenance but if you were perhaps it would be a good thing to think about adding to the edit summaries for clarity. AlasdairEdits (talk) 14:46, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I think you're right that a descriptive edit summary would be ideal. The issue though is that I'm using Hotcat, which does not allow custom edit summaries. Normally I would of course just not use the tool then, but because I am (literally) removing up to two dozen of these a day, and because the category's code is really jammed against a lot of stuff (easy to remove stuff you shouldn't), I've chosen not to on the assumption that people will just read the description at CAT:UAA if they wonder why I did it. But it is a worthwhile idea I will continue to think about. May even put a message at the top of my talk page. NTox · talk 15:00, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * You're welcome; I'm glad to help. I imagine many of them are unlikely to check the page again after posting. And it seems this is the place we finally meet. As a bit of a lurker, I've seen you around - always fun to watch paths cross. NTox · talk 04:48, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

User:Tnemirepxe-Hcaerb
Created a thread at WP:ANI. – Connormah (talk) 03:04, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

CAT:UAA
Hello, NTox. You have new messages at KingpinBot's talk page. --CAT:UAA
 * Sorry for taking so long to respond, - Kingpin13 (talk) 15:39, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

RfC on differentiating reference syntax in text window
Hi NTox-- based on the village pump discussion on giving reference syntax a unique color to differentiate from other text while editing, I've opened up an RfC to expand the audience on the topic. You are welcome to participate anytime. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 00:27, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Removing
I removed it because it was probably a monitor thing, and you should understand that formating pages like that will cause different appearances on different monitors/screens. The  was in the middle of a sentence so it was not intuitive. Art does not apply on wikipedia pages.Curb Chain (talk) 23:47, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Respectfully, you are quite wrong if you believe artistic principles do not apply to this site. There is an entire field of study called web design that applies here. I was being a tad polite when I suggested that it was a monitor issue, because I am quite sure that it was not. (I have accessed that particular page on five separate monitors, and I am informed enough about wiki formatting to know that was not the issue). What we have here is a difference of taste in design (and who knows, maybe most people will believe your feeling is better), but you should not invalidate the entire concept of art as a basis for the merit of your opinion. NTox · talk 00:09, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
 * is was in the middle of the sentence. Please provide a reasonable rationale for breaking the sentence.Curb Chain (talk) 00:24, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
 * As I said, it's merely an artistic choice. Line breaks are used all the time in typography. Unless your monitor is extremely wide, there is a break in the sentence as we currently speak, after your change. Nobody is right or wrong about these matters; they're just little choices. NTox · talk 00:45, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
 * It is not at all an artistic choice. Wikipedia is not an artwork.  And different monitors will display pages differently, so it is specially specifically your choice to include the line break.  My change has REMOVED the line break after the closing parenthesis closing parenthesis.  It is pointless and very wrong to use them on project pages as they are subjective to the person who adds them.Curb Chain (talk) 03:42, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy, but it contains elements of structure. Wikipedia is not a newspaper, but it contains information about current events. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, but it contains definitions. Yeah, Wikipedia is not an artwork, but it contains elements of art. To say that it is wrong to consider such things in project space because "they are subjective" does not make sense, and I wish you didn't believe that. But I am only speaking generally here - I really don't care about the specific page that sparked this conversation and am fine with how it looks now. So feel free to consider the matter ended, and happy editing. NTox · talk 04:24, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You seem to be arguing the point that you used  for the purpose of changing how wikipedia pages look when you knew that the pages look different on different monitors anyway.  Why are you being intransigent?Curb Chain (talk) 04:30, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You might have missed what I said in the second paragraph (above) by accident. Unless you are reading on a highly unusual display, the page will not look different depending on monitor. I know that because I have seen the page on five separate monitors, which are all very different, and because I am familiar enough with the syntax in this case to know that the page will not be influenced depending on display. Further, you will notice that the lines are short which makes it even less likely that it would show up differently depending on people. You're certainly right that complex syntax and line breaks often result in different displays for different people, but as said that is not the case in this instance and thus it doesn't hurt the basic point. NTox · talk 04:43, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I will disregard the above paragraph that you just wrote as impertinent. The pertinent point is that sentences are not broken in articles, and as well as in other namespaces, and using   in this fashion is unusual and unnecessary.Curb Chain (talk) 06:25, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Page Curation newsletter
Hey. I'm dropping you a note because you used to (or still do!) patrol new pages. This is just to let you know that we've deployed and developed Page Curation, which augments and supersedes Special:NewPages - there are a lot of interesting new features :). There's some help documentation here if you want to familiarise yourself with the system and start using it. If you find any bugs or have requests for new features, let us know here. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 12:48, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Hot Cat discussion at VPP
Thank you for your interest in the discussion at Village_pump_(proposals). Please note that I have now proposed 5 different, more nuanced versions of the original suggestion, to better gauge to what level (if any) we are willing to make Hot Cat more accessible. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 16:40, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Cobra206
It's not the number here so much as it is the word. "Cobra" is just such a commonly-used word in usernames all over the Internet that I wouldn't immediately make the connection to an organization by that name based on it alone. Daniel Case (talk) 16:28, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay. Thanks for answering. NTox · talk 17:03, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

User:ToxicGrandpa
Hi NTox, I too was just going to drop them a "uw-username" warning but you were apparently faster by a few seconds. I was having troubles though with putting a url into the template's parameter, so I thought I should ask you about that. Can the code for uw-username be edited so it accepts weblinks and will still not show the disclaimer message with "no valid reason has been given"? When I tried to link to ToxicGrandpa's youtube account for evidence the template came up with the imbox warning although I had edited the parameter field. De728631 (talk) 20:59, 3 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, De. I believe it's possible, as I have been able to do so on a number of occasions. I just did some preview-edit-testing in my sandbox, and it seemed to work okay, without the disclaimer message. To be quite honest, I am not sure what the issue was with your attempts. You may try asking another editor - I'm afraid the answer lies beyond my knowledge of MW syntax. NTox · talk 21:07, 3 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks for trying. On that note I remember some similar issues with the cite series. Special characters are sometimes not resolved in urls and produce some weird template output. A workaround would be using escape characters but then I think that's too much of an effort for a short talk page note. De728631 (talk) 21:13, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Rudeness
Hello there - don't come on to my page giving me such a warning. Who the hell are you? I wrote over 1000 words for the piece that you highlighted Nasser Hussain, which was a shoddy, neglected page previously. I included a handful of words (which were referenced to the BBC), which were duplicated, to my error, perhaps at a time of laziness on my part, but where the hell do you come from to threaten me with being banned? I understand the reason behind your officious type of comment on my talk page, but watch your tone. There are some decent editors on here, me being one, when i have the time, but you should spend your time offering guidance, not threats to the dedicated ones, and actually banning the spammy ones or checking out the 100,000s of pages that offer direct duplicate copy, rather than 15 words. I mean it, grow-up, get your priorities in line and learn a lesson. Googly75 (talk) 18:22, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, Googly. I've responded on your talk page. NTox · talk 19:46, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi - I accept your comments and understand both your input and the difference between that and the template message. However, I stand by my comments and yes, agree that the template should be changed for such instances, or you should not use it. Thanks for your quick response and your obvious unerring efforts to clean up Wiki, which i obviously support. On my side of things, I will be more careful in the future.

Now, this doesn't refer to you, but the Wikipedia editor faculty need to be aware of their role as gate-keepers who should also have a mindset of inclusivity. I'm sure you'll agree, there are too many self-appointed, self-aggrandising editors, who need to calm down a bit, maybe this could be passed on in your next discussion regarding the template. Many thanks again. 90.195.45.19 (talk) 20:30, 6 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Googly. You have a point there. In fact, it is a point that I was just thinking about recently. i.e., that editors (specifically patrollers) are occasionally a bit too trigger-happy, and too inclined to delete rather than rewrite. We have a policy or two on this matter that that is often forgotten. You will help me remember. Have a good one. NTox · talk 04:37, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: 184.146.127.76
I'm going to watch him for as long as I'm on (not for much longer) and if he/she continues vandalizing, will request a block. Maybe you can watch his contributions too. Thanks for catching him at SpaceX CRS-1. -- WingtipvorteX  PTT   ∅  23:37, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem; glad to help. I'll give him/her a watch for awhile. NTox · talk 23:38, 8 October 2012 (UTC)