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Deletion of my page!!!
Note for archival purposes:In this context, "my page" is Jack Taylor(TV Financial News Anchor). -- Thin boy  00  @136, i.e. 02:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm contacting you here because the other person who advised my page would be deleted noted for me to contact him at his talk page.

Could you point me to specific examples of notability in an actual article about a person. I'm really having trouble understanding what you want. I thought I'd included sources and references but I just don't know what you mean by demonstrating notability.

Asking why Jack Taylor is notable is, to me, like asking why Thomas Edison is notable. All you have to do is read his accomplishments. Seriously, I honestly don't understand what you are looking for and I've reviewed most of the other articles about the other broadcast notables on the WGN page and I don't see what they have done that I have not. If you can just clue me in here, I'll be happy to comply.

Please, DO NOT SEND ANOTHER CANNED FAQ. I've read what you already sent and I thought it was not applicable to anything here. I've also read the Wikipedia guidelines on notability and I found them also to be just so much double talk. I don't mean that as a criticism. I just really don't see what you are getting at here. Both sources keep saying to demonstrate notability, but they never say what it is!!?? Again, Concrete examples from an article about another personality would be helpful.

Thanks.Tgdf (talk) 16:43, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I was simply . You need to actually include sources in the article rather than on the talk page because the whole point of sources is to help readers, and many never see the talk page.  "To prove notability, you should use multiple independent third party sources which refer to the person in a way more direct than a passing reference." --nearly verbatim quote from WP:Notability.  I did not send you a "canned faq," I think that was whomever edited your talk page.  Furthermore, someone else has  so you have some time.  In case you have the wrong person,  was the one that requested speedy deletion.  See also WP:CSD.  -- Thin  boy  00  @011, i.e. 23:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, the canned FAQ comment was not necessarily directed at you. It's just that this process is a bit intimidating as the notices seem so absolute and arbitrary. Again I have gone through the page you reference above re Notability and for the most part, while it does mention to an extent what it is NOT, it doesn't relate much detail on what it IS. Also, some of the repeated comments that I should add references and sources make me wonder (and again I mean this not as a rant but as sincere confusion) if the commentators have even read my article as I have a section at the bottom called 'references'. That's one place I get the confusion and feeling of arbitrary persecution. No one says, "You need more references" or "Your references are not sufficient" the comments are "You lack references and sources and assertion of notability," as if there were none at all. Please, again, this not meant as a rant but as confusion. I have some ideas re notability which I will try and include ASAP and I have asked for help re more sources. Thanks for your suggestions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tgdf (talk • contribs) 05:39, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Firstly, and this is purely stylistic, if you bold the first occurrence of the title, it looks less like a junk page. We get a lot of junk pages, and the lack of bolding may make people a little quicker with the "this is junk" assertion, and yes, it is unfair, but its human nature.  See also WP:MOS.  Secondly, try bringing your citations up to par (inline citations in addition to block citations).  Also, you might skim WP:RS, though it doesn't seem to be much of a concern here.  Finally, slap a expand on it ("{" is a consonant as far as I'm concerned) and add categories.  Both of those things will attract more editors who will improve the article, and the latter will also attract readers.  Oh, and please strive to remember that it is not "your page".  As for absolute and arbitrary, nothing is absolute, nor arbitrary.  In the case of deletion, we have deletion review.  Nothing short of oversight is absolute, and even that is only "relatively permanent," and nothing short of office actions is "arbitrary" (not decided by consensus), though office actions are also absolute.  Both those things are very rare.  Generally, just do what makes sense for the betterment of the encyclopædia.  Good luck improving this page.  -- Thin  boy  00  @132, i.e. 02:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

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Hey there,

To the best of my knowledge, Wiki software interprets (_) underscores as spaces. When I checked "writer_girl" on Special:Listusers, I got this. Perhaps I am mistaken, but I don't believe we should usurp existing accounts instead of asking the requesting IP to choose a new desired username. I may be totally wrong :P about this, so leave a comment on my talk page. Perfect Proposal Speak Out!  23:57, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
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A "new" article for Malik Obama
is sure to be nominated for deletion; so I've actually done so myself here even though I believe it now passes muster due to Maliks multiple press mentions (which had not yet been catalogued when contributors had so very recently weighed in on its "Obongo" iteration. Please be patient with this proposal while those interested weight in again. (I'm notifying those who commented.) — Justmeherenow  06:15, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

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May contain nuts
No where near as funny as The Truth, but does it deserve to be deleted? -HarryAlffa (talk) 21:38, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This feels like canvassing. I left a message saying as much at the MfD page.  If you have an explanation, please crosspost it here and there.  -- Thin  boy  00  @003, i.e. 23:04, 10 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I chose you because; I went to the Truth revision history, to the very start, then posted a question to those first (however many) who contributed, asking for judgement.


 * I thought those who had made some comment on the Truth talk page would be independent and valuable judges. I haven't read the Canvassing page properly, but neutral comments seem OK? -HarryAlffa (talk) 19:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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