User talk:Naelee

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Proposed deletion of Zenful
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i have NO idea if this is the right way (the pasting to get someone to respond) anyway...I take GREAT umbrage at being targeted. This term Zenful is in 'process' there are things i'll add to it but for now, it is what it is. the reason i feel so targeted is the following links. ALLLLLLL -- EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM MIND YOU are doing the exact same thing i am -- you type a word, you type what the word means. would someone like to tell me just why i am being targeted for something everyone does. i mean give me a break. that's the only reason i even use wiki -- if there's a word that i want to look up, i ALWAYS go to wiki first. ALWAYS. because everyone does this. just what am i doing wrong that someone with so much time on their hands seems to want to target and nit-pik about something that isn't hurting anyone #1 and #2 as already stated --- IS BEING DONE CONSISTENTLY!!! i'm very very frustrated and offended and insulted (all listed below as FOUND on Wikipedia as definitions and explanations. i just cannot believe how i was treated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and feel i am owed an apology because this is making my entire Wiki experiences very undesirable and in fact, it is making me inclined to cease using Wiki at all and to pass on the word to boycott this site for unfair practices. The only difference between these following three examples of existing "offenses" that apparently should be scheduled for deletion, which by the way should include all or most of Wikipedia mind you -- is that mine is shorter, not worded as well (in part because it probably hasn't been ON as long) and i am not done!!! Take a look at the links and then I expect the apology and that ridiculous thing removed from my page. I am just so upset at this entire thing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frustrated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offense_(etiquette) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulted

Naelee (talk) 22:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, Naelee. Yes, putting helpme up there gets someone to respond; in this case, me. You're right, this article shouldn't be deleted.  I'll put the appropriate redirect in.— S Marshall   Talk / Cont  23:23, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

helpme To S. Marshall, thanks for writing --- again, I don't know if I'm supposed to respond directly to you or do this help me thing again...I'm a novice on the grand scale....wading through it all actually. I appreciate that, thank you...However, I'm confused. My Zenful now has everything taken out and the following put in: Redirect page wikt:Zen   and the hyperlink takes me to Zen. I don't understand why this is.....I just don't get it. Why is my term Zenful taken out? Why were my words removed? Yes, Zenful is of Zen so the redirect of sorts to Zen ok, sure... I get that kinda...but nowhere is Zenful listed. That was my term to describe of Zen. It's in urban dictionaries and what not and explains a state....What am I supposed to do now? How can this be better explained to me? Thanks.... Naelee (talk) 00:50, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi again, Naelee! You don't need to write things on my talk page to reply to me. It's easier if the conversation is in one place, in other words, here. Because I posted to your talkpage, it's my job to watch your talk page and see if you've replied.  (If you want to make absolutely sure I see something, then you can write:  on my talk page, but with experienced wikipedians there's no real need.) The "Zenful" page now goes to Wikipedia's dictionary.  (Definitions belong in a dictionary, you see.  The main Wikipedia space is for encyclopedia stuff, the Wiktionary space is for dictionary stuff.) Now, Wiktionary thinks that "Zenful" isn't a word.  It thinks that the adjective of "Zen" is "Zen".  (So Wiktionary thinks you wouldn't say, "So-and-so is really zenful"; it thinks "So-and-so is really zen" is the right way to say it.) Now, you say Zenful is in a dictionary.  Which means Wiktionary might be wrong.  Which dictionary is Zenful in?— S Marshall   Talk / Cont  01:25, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

HI...Thanks for writing....it helps clarify some things (as to the how-to's in writing, what-not). To clarify, Zenful isn't in an actual dictionary....it's in 'urban dictionaries' (a term I found on line). Zenful Living is a term that I have in fact adopted to not only my life but a whole state of living. So why is it things like "Happiness", and the links that I gave to describe my feelings which are found in Wiki and aren't redirected...the content is in the page "Frustrated", "Insulted", "Offense", etc. Because based on the logic that you are using above, everything should just be a word and redirected....yet it doesn't seem to be so based on my examples (happiness, frustrated, etc.)


 * Am I supposed to put the help me thingie every time I write here or is it as you said, that you'll just keep an eye?

Thanks again,  Naelee (talk) 01:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll see, if I'm online. (I won't be for much longer; I need to sleep, because it's really late here in Britain). I'll take a look at the articles that you link, but I suspect they belong in the main Wikipedia space.  They will also have Wiktionary entries, but I should think there's enough to say about them that you could write an encyclopedia article as well. Let me go look at them now.— S Marshall   Talk / Cont  01:46, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, those have one article per concept, so they belong in the main Wikipedia space. Err, let's see if I can explain this clearly, because it's a bit complicated. In the main Wikipedia space, one concept has one article.  So there's Insult, but Insulted is not a separate article (in this case, it redirects to "Insulted").  There's Offense, but Offensive is not a separate article. For Zen, there's Zen, so Zenful should not be a separate article. But in Wiktionary, it would be separate because dictionaries have one entry for each variant of the word.— S Marshall   Talk / Cont  01:54, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm...I'll have to think about what you said and how best to ask for guidance on how it applies to me....however, tomorrow your time is perfectly fine for me, for a response from you..It's super late where you are (my friend lives in the UK....she'd hit me over the head if I called her at almost 3 in the morning!! (i'm in hawaii). so i'll think. i'll write and then I'll wait...Thanks again and until later.. Naelee (talk) 01:58, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * No problem.— S Marshall  Talk / Cont  07:21, 16 July 2009 (UTC)