User talk:Nafsadh/Archive 3

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
I noticed your edit with interest and this is just a comment rather than a criticism. I had never noticed until I looked it up  here that that US English uses "immigrate" in the way you describe, whereas as the British say people "emigrate to" a country. The editor who wrote "emigrate to" must have been British, but as this article uses American spellings clearly your change to "immigrate to" must remain. --P123ct1 (talk) 13:05, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I am not sure whether it is as British vs. American thing; I was taught En(UK) till 12th grade until I started to favor EN(US). Although it is somewhat obvious from e-/im- that, both words stemmed from same root to mean something different (exit/enter), people often wrongly use them interchangeably. I even didn't notice the error until an IP user went really bothered with it and changed it. --–  nafSadh did say 16:15, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Cox's Bazar Beach
I created the stub today. Can you make some time to look at it? It really needs good editors to develop into the article it deserves to be. Aditya (talk • contribs) 13:23, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * That is great. I would be happy to participate. 14:56, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Saiman Miah
Dear Nafsadh, I invite you to express your opinion about the article deletion here. --Rossi101 (talk) 18:00, 6 October 2014 (UTC)Rossi101

Tejgaon thana?
You said "Upazilas and Thanas never co-existed as admin units. So all Upazilas were thanas." So how do you explain the thanas that currently exist, for example this one? Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:31, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thana as we discuss in the article Upazilas of Bangladesh never co-existed with upazilas. There are other type of thanas, which are purely part of police (law enforcement) system and not part of administration hierarchy. These ambiguity caused trouble. A similar administrative level once was Mohkuma, but they were abolished long ago. I have tried to cover a bit on this on history section of the article. I do not have much sources with me, so I cannot add much to it. Perhaps we have to find some secondary school level text book.
 * However, the statement "Many subdistricts were formerly called thana" is wrong; 1st because, all upazilas we have now in Bangladesh were either directly converted to upazila from thana, or made as a result of dividing a upazila. 2nd, there is no word as subdistrict in Bangladesh's governing system.
 * These being said, it is wise not to dig much into this thana puzzle, it is terribly baffling to understand unless you are properly familiar with it. Despite you are a very important contributor in Bangladesh related article, I presumed you are not a native of it. Every time I stumbled upon this article about upazilas, I looked at it, said OMG please help and then went away! except for the last time I finally decided to make a few change. 15:33, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh! also note that, Dhaka has a different structure for administration. Dhaka city is actually divided into two separate city corporations, Dhaka city is not part of any conventional upazila, but DMP is organized in many thanas (police stations). 15:41, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, if the problem can't be solved then I will stop trying to do anything about Bangladesh articles about administrative geography. I will remove all upazila pages from my watch list. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 17:45, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey! Don't give up! If we focus on recent info, they are more structured and [bangladesh.gov.bd the government portal] has some sources -- not a lot, but there are some. 21:09, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Sminthopsis84, as are so many things about Bangladesh in Wikipedia, the title Tejgaon Thana, as well Gulshan Thana and Dhanmondi Thana, are wrong. They are simply police stations, with no administrative identity. Our cities are divided into wards. To use an obsolete term like Thana today, when it was discarded in 1984, is the height of being misguided. The term needs to be deleted and the articles should titled with only the name of the neighborhood.--Rainmaker23 (talk) 00:52, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
 * As I said, I am giving up editing anything to do with administrative geography in Bangladesh because of this. I think Banglapedia is correct, but there are too many wikipedia editors claiming that it is wrong. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 11:40, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

মানচিত্র
মানচিত্রগুলি ঠিক করার জন্য আপনাকে ধন্যবাদ জানাচ্ছি। কোন মানচিত্র হালনাগাদ করলে সেটার বাংলা সংস্করণও (যদি থাকে) হালনাগাদ করে দিয়েন। না থাকলে কষ্ট করে বাংলা সংস্করণ তৈরি করে দিয়েন। --Aftab1995 (talk) 23:52, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * আমি লোকেশন ম্যাপ যা তৈরি করছি সেগুলো বাংলা বা ইংরেজি বা যেকোন ভাষার জন্য প্রযোজ্য । খেয়াল করবার জন্য ধন্যবাদ । আপনি আমার User:Nafsadh/Gallery পাতায় লক্ষ্য রাখতে পারেন । যেহেতু বাংলা উইকিতে আমি বিশেষ অ্যাক্টিভ নই; আপনি চাইলে আমার আপডেট গুলো সেখানে দিয়ে সাহায্য করতে পারেন । আমি নিজেও চেষ্টা করবো ।
 * Those locator maps I am creating can be used in any language including Bengali and English. Thanks for noticing. You can keep an eye at User:Nafsadh/Gallery . As I am not much active in BN:Wiki, it would be great if you help to reflect changes there. I would also try. 23:58, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

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Strange administrative geography
Hi, would you have time to consider some strange edits from this IP address that have claimed that Kulaura Upazila has moved from Moulvibazar District to Sylhet District? I have reverted them, but it seemed so strange that a second opinion would be warranted. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 20:38, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * It is apparently an instance of vandalism. This IP shall be reported for blocking if such edits keep coming from this address. 22:31, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Bangla calendar being merged under Hindu calendar
You may be interested in a discussion taking place at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:04, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

ভেক্টর যুক্তাবর্ণ অপসারণ বিসয়ে
আপনি Bengali alphabet থেকে ভেক্টর যুক্তাক্ষর চিত্রটি সরিয়ে দিয়েছেন, কারণ হিসেবে লিখেছেন unreable and colors are very flashy। বুঝলাম না কেন আপনার কাছে পঠনযোগ্য নয় মনে হল! আর flashy হলেই যে ভেক্টর বাদ দিয়ে র‍্যাস্টার রাখতে হবে এমন তো কথা নেই। আপনি ইচ্ছা করলে রঙ নিয়ে আলোচনা করতে পারতেন। আশা করি আপনার কাছ থেকে উত্তর পাব। -- Tauhid (talk) 09:49, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * There is a talk opened at the file's page. Reverting to the previous file does not mean we cannot go for the new SVG. Let us wait until the issues with the SVG solves. We can definitely use it when the file is ready. The revert is only temporary. We can talk about how to improve the file at commons. 13:08, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * hey Nafsadh, I uploaded the [//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/বাংলা_যুক্তবর্ণ_ন্দ্র.svg new version]. I think I probably fixed the problems which you mentioned in commons talk page. Would you kindly see this? and one thing that you mentioned in my talk page, that writing you in Bengali. As you are a bengali and it is Bengali language mater so that I wrote to your talk page in bengali. I hope you did not mind for that. -- Tauhid (talk) 15:45, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The new version is good. I know it why you wrote in Bengali and I love to talk in Bengali. I interact with a lot of Bengali editors on Wikipedia; but if we all start using Bangla to discuss with each other then that will not be helpful to others. 16:45, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Wiki-relaxation
Thanks. It is a perfect time for weekend brunch. –  nafSadh did say 16:10, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

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B-baria, B.baria and other abbreviations occur on maps
Hi, would you mind taking a look at the latest edits on Brahmanbaria District‎ and B-baria City, Bangladesh? Thanks. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 18:37, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks like there are huge problems associated with B'Baria in Wikipedia. I'll look into in detail after Monday. In a nutshell, actual name is Brahmanbaria. Abbreviations B-Baria, B'Baria etc is often used. B-baria City, Bangladesh should be Brahmanbaria. –  nafSadh did say 20:30, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I should point out that other people have taken action in the meantime, and that the history is very confusing, for example, a page that was called "B-baria City (Bangladesh)" when it was edited is now called "Brahmanbaria", so the edits appear to make no sense (I think there must have been changes recently to the way page histories are displayed, because I'm sure that sort of misrepresentation did not happen in the past). I hope that Brahmanbaria is as good a page as it ever was, and hasn't been overwritten by a poorer version, but I'm tired of this sort of silliness and hope that you don't mind having a less jaded look at it all. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:38, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The change came to my notice. There are many silly problems with such articles. We have proposed WP:BDPLACE to address some of these problems. I am also planning to put forward a BDMOS (preparing draft at: User:Nafsadh/Best practices for Bangladesh related articles) to address more issues. Thanks for your efforts in Wikiproject Bangladesh and overall Wikipedia. –  nafSadh did say 13:48, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Some best-practices guidelines could be quite useful, I think. The Brahmanbaria situation may be getting worse; as I write this it is a disambiguation page that doesn't link to the city at all. The person doing this hasn't even been warned, but since I get scolded for being a foreigner if I engage with a Bangladeshi editor, I am hesitant to try to intercede here. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 00:46, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * You can warn. Wikipedia policy do not specify anything about nationality. Please give appropriate warning and report ANI or RfC/UC as necessary. You are more active in Wikiproject Bangladesh than most other Bangladeshi editors and you warrant same right as anyone. –  nafSadh did say 02:36, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it's kind of you to say that. I'm particularly concerned with the page histories, which are now very confusing, and I'll ask an admin for advice on how to, I hope, roll back to an earlier version. I've left the first request for the person to stop doing this, so I hope they might stop. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 04:12, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * A dearly feel the need of a good admin from Bangladesh too. I am not experienced enough and can't handle situations when a party is very persistent about pushing their POV. I am afraid I would not be able to spend enough time to fight these issues in next few weeks. But let me know about anything, I'd be more than happy to provide my insight and I would look forward to get help from your experience to stand for Wikipedia's quality. Thank you again for your relentless good work.
 * I hope community would adopt WP:BDPLACE asap. –  nafSadh did say 06:22, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Being an admin is a very different job, I think, that would take away from one's ability to make content edits. Some admins are discussing this situation, so I expect it will be fixed soon, though I saw one person remark that it was too confusing (we'll need to check afterwards that your recent changes like removing that "Б-Баrия Сити" are still in place.) What I have tried to do generally is just to insert citations, and I usually use Banglapedia because it is so easy to cite, in the hope that with more citations as examples new users will follow the example of citing sources. Sometimes I fix something that has been poorly translated. I don't do much any more on the contentious pages about history and politics. I'm not much of a geography editor, so I don't know what best practice is in those projects, and I do believe that experience with best-practice guidelines is essential to appreciating whether they are workable or not. A major hurdle to adopting your convention, I think, is that most editors don't know enough about wiki-editing to understand it. I made some edits that are suggestions (please revert if you disagree). It would be nice to mention rivers. I'd also say that "territories" in most parts of the world are very large areas (Northwest Territory, Oklahoma Territory), so it could be good if that word can be explained and perhaps linked to a precise meaning. Best wishes, Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:41, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for you suggestions on WP:BDPLACE. Can you share your thoughts on Wikipedia_Talk:BDPLACE. There are few other people who discussed on it. (Alert!) The discussion is a bit confusing now. –  nafSadh did say 18:36, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Brahmanbaria
You may wish to participate in a discussion at Talk:Brahmanbaria. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 18:58, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Sigh! Its an arbcom situation! There is no talk history, no edit history, where would we even talk! Please spawn an WP:BD page for talk. –  nafSadh did say 19:21, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Is that still something that you want to spawn? In the meantime, you might be interested in some further comments about obfuscated page histories at User_talk:De728631. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:38, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I am super baffled. I am also traveling. So, I'd try to keep an eye on but not sure. –  nafSadh did say 00:53, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Further to this, would you have time to look at related material in the bpy and the bn wikipedias? Some changes have been made at wikivoyage (and there is another user name there that may be intended to be a minor variation on a user name here, but so far without a plagiarized user page) and at the Italian wikipedia. If you don't have time and can let me know, I can look for someone else with the necessary skills. Sorry to bother you. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 15:00, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for informing. I am getting married tomorrow; so I'd be busy for a while. I'd try to give some insight but I'm not sure. –  nafSadh did say 16:35, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! That's a cheerful reason for not having time to edit wikipedia. Very best wishes to you both. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 15:15, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Talkback
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Bangladesh, history and so on
You just wait and see how I completely change the Bangladesh article. In one week. --Rainmaker23 (talk) 14:46, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

BDPLACE
What happened to BDPLACE? The conversation died down? Shall I restart the discussion? Aditya (talk • contribs) 04:09, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 * No one else gave any more feedback. I went busy with graduation, wedding and stuff. So couldn't start the pilot either. Can you start the pilot? –  nafSadh did say 04:53, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay. I may not be very quick at that. But, I am getting to it. Please, keep an eye on the pilot if you have time. Aditya (talk • contribs) 02:38, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Personal attack on Bangladesh Talk page
Take a look and see how he threat me! I think it's high time to put him ANI again.—Samudrakula (talk) 12:03, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You should. If you have some time to compile a case, please put it. Also add a reference to just archived ANI about him from Rohingya article. He is a habitual perpetrator of PA and EW. –  nafSadh did say 14:39, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

I didnt threaten him at all. He's the one who made personal attacks against me while reverting. Nafsadh the only reason I have to be hostile is because all of you are. I didn't do anything wrong in the Rohingya article, its for there for everyone to see.--Rainmaker23 (talk) 00:51, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

ANI
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Culture and Activities at University of Dhaka
Regret having to disagree with you at Articles for deletion/Facilities at University of Dhaka; you seem like one of the good guys. On a more positive note, can you come up with a brief lead paragraph for Culture and Activities at University of Dhaka? It's purpose seems a little obscure (to me) without one. And it's been tagged for a couple of years. Regards -Arb. (talk) 22:49, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Weather
Let's monitor the weather. Reply on my talk page. Aditya (talk • contribs) 10:59, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

City Locator map
Your user page allows me to ask for something! We badly need City Locator map for City Corporations article's infobox. Maybe you have enough time to upload some maps more? Many thanks in advance!—Samudrakula (talk) 18:57, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I do not have that much time I used to have. But they are in my todo list. May be in a year, I'll be done. With help of I am finally done with district locator maps, yay! –  nafSadh  did say 21:42, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

 * Hey thanks . It was really great meeting you too, along with all these wonderful Wikipedians of NYC.
 * I had been thinking a lot about the fund. There are two major shortcomings in WikipProject Bangladesh. (1) Lack of Photos, (2) Lack or sources online. In Bengali Wikipedia, I think a (B) translation tool can kick off bulk addition of articles. So, following things can be done:
 * 1. Commission a photography competition for places of Bangladesh, within now (and since forever) defunct WikiProject Colours of Bangladesh. Comparatively a nominal amount of prize (monetary, or photography tool) may attract a lot of submissions. Surely, we'd need some campaign/ad.
 * 2. Coach few librarians, pay them and help get in touch with libraries and archives in Bangladesh. Somewhat like residents. Fulltime or near fulltime participants can help us getting a lot more sources in hand.
 * B. There are attempts for building English - Bengali translation tools in academia. A continued funding can help make sure, these projects get together and build something fruitful, rather than everyone starting from near-scratch. An Apache type licensed product will be helpful for not only Wikipedia, but many good causes.
 * ~  nafSadh did say 21:25, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Great meeting yesterday!
Just a note to say it was great meeting you yesterday and I look forward to keeping in touch. --Aliceba (talk) 18:12, 23 March 2015 (UTC)