User talk:Namib dessert/Archive 6

List of Iron Maiden band members
Quick question. I put a section, name "other members". I'm trying to find info about those early members. I found a place at h2g2, published by the BBC. Could you take a look at the article and tell me if that's a reliable source. The thing is that, it's the only place with info about early members.  Rockk3r      Spit it Out!  17:01, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Those members had no contributino. I'll explain that at the top of the section. See "former members", they're the ones that contributed. That way it doesn't get so confusing. Also the "other memmbers" don't even have article, I'll see how I can fix all that. I just want your opinion about the last ref, the one from h2g2 (BBC). Tell me if it's reliable or no0t. It's just that I can't find that info in any other place.  Rockk3r      Spit it Out!  17:22, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Good job
- Great stuff! He'll be back again no doubt. I would appreciate any further help you can give if he does try to get back in. Thanks and well done :-) Scarian  Call me Pat!  22:01, 20 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Back again Scarian  Call me Pat!  22:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

RE: DT discog
I can't remember any interviews off the top of my head. I can remember Petrucci mentioning it in some interview, but can't remember exactly where as they've been around for over 20 years. I will try to look for something tomorrow if I can, but I'll be surprised if I can find anything major.  black ngold29  04:36, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year and Paulini Curuenavuli discography FLC
Hello. Happy New Year. Thanks for your comments on the featured list candidate Paulini Curuenavuli discography. I understand you may be aware of this, however I would like to tell you directly that I believe I have made the necessary changes and addressed your concerns. Anyways, please see my response, here. My only concern is with referencing the music video directors, I'd appreciate if you could reply to my response. Thanks alot mate Hpfan9374 (talk) 12:08, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Revision history of List of Megadeth band members
You reverted my "ignorance"? In terms of justifying an edit, that's more offensive than required, especially when it's not very explanatory. I put quite a bit of work into the original timeline, and was created following the pattern that many other band articles I have edited have used and thus I was mimicking. Examples below:
 * Kiss band members
 * List of AC/DC members
 * List of Thin Lizzy band members
 * Dio
 * List of Van Halen band members
 * List of Anthrax band members
 * The Rolling Stones
 * Motörhead discography
 * The Beatles' line-ups
 * The Who personnel
 * Def Leppard band members
 * List of Judas Priest band members
 * List of Lynyrd Skynyrd band members

The approach you chose to change the page to is one that is often used for bands that have rotated a fairly small selection of musicians, or is used on band pages e.g. Motley Crue, Iron Maiden, Metallica. Generally if a band has had enough member changes to be deemed worthy of a page dedicated to it, a timeline approach is more logical because the chronology is much easier to determine. With regard to Megadeth it makes it more immediately obvious that Megadeth had a lot of initial instability, then gained some in the form of Dave Ellefson, they split up, reformed with a touring line-up then got a more permanant line-up back together. Currently the page is just a list of musicians....sure, it shows their role within the band and when, but it does not show the band's work as a collective as clearly. For instance it takes a little analysis to see that the band had a stable line-up from 1989 to 1998 wheras in the old format it was viewable at a glance.

Some pages, like The Who personnel take BOTH approaches. That works when a band has had very small number of personnel involved, which is the only time your approach doesn't create a confusing mess. Or that's my personal opinion at any rate.

Sure, I see Iron Maiden, Metallica and Deep Purple's pages have been converted into the format you use. So maybe it's a new Wikipedia policy for us to have to change all the band pages into that format? OK, if that's true, I'm not so active as an editor lately and maybe I made a mistake. If I did, the way forward for me would be to debate that with Wiki editors in a discussion forum on the topic rather than with you. Maybe you can point me towards wherever that change was discussed? It'd be appreciated. If it's just a case of your personal preference over mine, I would appreciate more justification for such a radical change (effectively re-writing a page from scratch) just because I am "ignorant". I am ignorant of your intentions yes, but not of what makes a good encyclopaedic article. And if I'm ignorant of Wikipedia's policy on such pages, the solution is not to shrug me off and shove me to one side but to inform me of this to avoid me repeating the mistake, getting in an edit war with you, or starting a discussion like this one.

(The Elfoid (talk) 21:08, 1 January 2009 (UTC))


 * Any reason you're ignoring me?
 * Why do you think the edition that you did to this list is most correct that my? You simply destroyed all the work that I had, to improve the quality of this list. With this new format that includes text and a timeline, many users obtained the FL status in its works. I suggest that you ignore all dramas, and I'm not calling you "ignorant." Canniba  loki  00:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


 * "Why do you think the edition that you did to this list is most correct that my?"


 * I have explained why I think the way I had done it is the correct way to do it; I explained it above for you to read. I explained it QUITE clearly, and you ignored it. Response?


 * "You simply destroyed all the work that I had, to improve the quality of this list."


 * I did not "destroy" work you did, I edited it - it was still there in the history for you to revert. In any case, you "destroyed" mine first so if that argument carried any weight (which it does not, because of WP:OWN.


 * "With this new format that includes text and a timeline, many users obtained the FL status in its works."


 * You can still include a timeline in the article - one of the graphic ones like used for Iron Maiden can work great:


 * Since it's fairly compact, the risk of appearing to repeat information too often is minimal, and it presents the data in a different, useful way. Your methodology provides the same information but less clearly interpreted, more dispersed on a page, and without any kind of timescale. In short, this graphic method of doing it leaves yours fairly un-necessary. One of the main qualities it does lack is the list of releases by a band - dividers representing albums can fit nicely but live releases/remixes/DVDs etc. don't fit in so well - and the fact that you can't WikiLink to the band members' Wikipedia pages, which are two things my "band timeline" sort out which your pointless "instrument timeline" does not.


 * Sure, an article might get to FA with your method. It's possible. But does that make it the best way? Does that make it perfect? Just because it's A way that's Good Enough doesn't mean it's the Best Way.


 * "I suggest that you ignore all dramas, and I'm not calling you "ignorant."


 * I direct you to the following revert: "20:34, 1 January 2009 Cannibaloki (Talk | contribs) (6,078 bytes) (Reverted to revision 261201815 by Wether B; Reverting ignorance. (TW))"


 * And the drama's not a big deal. It'd be nice if you were polite and friendly but at the end of the way we're both here to edit an Encyclopaedia. If you wanna be rude, we can still achieve that aim and I will still argue my points based on principles, which I am, rather than for personal reasons as you appear to suspect.

(The Elfoid (talk) 02:13, 9 January 2009 (UTC))


 * [[File:Face-smile-big.svg]] Canniba  loki  03:13, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Are you not taking me seriously? I mean to see my points through. (The Elfoid (talk) 10:50, 9 January 2009 (UTC))


 * OK, I meant to say, I've gone to request a third opinion since I have no idea what to do with you.(The Elfoid (talk) 15:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC))

RE: Meshuggah @ FAC
Greets! Well, I am already pretty fed up with the whole shit man, since I am doing like fourth nomination or something. I was hesitating whether I should go and do the nomination no.4 or wheter I should not give fuck about the article anymore, because I simply do not have any time to do anything on wikipedia (studies). But recently some guys just added some positive comments, so it starts to seem better :) But thanks for your engagement!--  LYKANTROP    ✉  12:41, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for support man! This should go :) --  LYKANTROP    ✉  14:58, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Greets! If you're interested, you could consider a FL for ObZen Tour. I did some fixes and you could finish it if you want. You're better than me at this :) --  LYKANTROP    ✉  19:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

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Regarding The Dykeenies' Good article review
Hi Cannibal (can i call you cannibal? :P) I've been over all the points you've raised in the above review and i think i've covered everything. If you could tell me now if its a pass then that would be great! --SteelersFanUK06  ReplyOnMine!   21:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That's the most recent stuff sorted as well. --SteelersFanUK06  ReplyOnMine!   21:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Uncivil behaviour report
After you reverted my edits to Trivium discography I made most of those edits again, this time explaining my actions each step at a time. Some of them included simple spelling and grammar corrections. Some were tightening up of the English used - sentences were poorly structured - and English is something your user page implies you may have some difficulty with. I was shrugged off as "nonsense". Not a huge crime in itself, but considering your childish behaviour regarding the Megadeth Band Members page - and looking at some of your other edits in the past showing this is a frequent problem that I probably can't change by myself - I have sought help at Wikiquette alerts. (The Elfoid (talk) 23:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC))
 * Canniba loki  00:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll give you a few minutes to rethink you commentary on WP:WQA ... you have directly attacked another editor, and have focused on CONTENT as opposed to civility behaviour. ( talk→   Bwilkins / BMW   ←track ) 15:56, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Your response is not civil  and does not indicate  good faith. While vigorous content debate is good, it needs to conform to the standards of the community.  Continued incivility could lead to sanctions such as blocking. Gerardw (talk) 22:19, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Can we actually debate my edits now and point by point analyse which ones were good and which were bad until you accept the good ones? (The Elfoid (talk) 19:51, 16 January 2009 (UTC))
 * If you want to say something, do it at this page. Canniba  loki  20:34, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Will do, got some other stuff to do first. (The Elfoid (talk) 16:00, 17 January 2009 (UTC))

SOiL
i DONT KNOW WHERE YOU HAVE UR INFO FROM BUT SHAUN GLASS IS A FOUNDING MEMBER OF SOIL, AND IS NO LONGER IN THE BAND..FOCUSING ON DIRGE-HIS NEW BAND,....... GOOGLE IT IF UD LIKE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.128.97.2 (talk) 18:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You send message to wrong user, I don't removed info from this article. These are my edits Regards, Canniba  loki  19:39, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

RE:Hammerfall discography
Hahahaha, I thought you'd never ask. But of course you can do a clean-up.  Rockk3r       Spit it Out!  17:17, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I've never used it before. I use internet explorer, and I think that doesn't support it. Anyways I'll take a look at it later, semms to be usefull. About Hammerfall, you could start with the "singles" section. I'll help you on everything,don't worry about it, you won't have to do all the work haha.  Rockk3r       Spit it Out!  17:46, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Nothing, I just didn't want you to think I was gonna leave all the work to you.  Rockk3r      Spit it Out!  18:00, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Sarcófago
Hey, kudos on the work you did on the discography section of the Sarcófago article.

Regarding sources, I've posted some on the talk page, but what I'm really looking forward to are some Rock Brigade back issues - thats Brazil's premiere metal mag - which I've recently bought on an online auction, dating from 11 to 16 years ago, with really great Sarcófago articles. There are some web versions of them thru this link, but I prefer the real deal.

So I'll be, in the following months, working on this article and trying to give the coverage Sarcófago deserves... Help is always welcolme. Musicaindustrial (talk) 22:38, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Por sinal, você é brasileiro ou português? Musicaindustrial (talk) 22:47, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Sou brasileiro... Quer dizer, nasci no Uruguay mas moro em Salvador, Bahia desde pequeno. Tô por aqui pra editar os artigos de música industrial e de metal, principalmente de bandas brasileiras... Mas enfim, é bom saber que tem outro "brazuca" por aqui interessado em metal. Abraço, "véi"! Musicaindustrial (talk) 10:09, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Megadeth discography
Out of curiosity, is the nom all yours? I'm working on St. Anger, my first article in a long time. care to help with grammer or copy-editing or anything you'd like? Burningclean [speak]  00:53, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. :D Burningclean  [speak]  04:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Regarding your request to copy-edit Pantera discography: No problem. I will do it within the next two days. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:55, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. There are two questions in the text, please address them. Also, don't submit for FLC yet, I want to check my work and make some more tweaks tomorrow. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:19, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I think it is ready now. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:06, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Restoring Prod templates
Hi... Are you sure user:RasterFaAye's removal of prod templates are obviously vandalism? Tyoically, removal of prod templates is a sign the user contests the deletion, and in such cases the templates shouldn't be restored (see Prod). Consider taking the articles to WP:AfD instead if you still think they should be deleted. Cheers. --Rrburke(talk) 03:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. Canniba  loki  04:23, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

A-Lex
Why would A-Lex would be released on Steamhammer, Steamhammer is a sub label for up and coming bands on SPV GmbH. User:Sepulwiki 23:10, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * SPV GmbH is an independent German record label founded in 1984 as a German distributor of Roadrunner Records. It has slowly grown to be one of the largest independent distributors and record labels worldwide.


 * It also has several sublabels that it produces and distributes. These include metal labels Steamhammer, Synthetic Symphony, Oblivion, SPV Recordings/SPV America, Audiopharm, and progressive label InsideOut. Canniba  loki  23:59, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Leviathan Review
Wikipedia defines a worthy review as: Professional reviews may include only reviews written by professional music journalists or DJs, or found within any online or print publication having a (paid or volunteer) editorial and writing staff.

Our website is obviously an online publication, we advertise for large clients like Nick Cave and The Big Day Out Music Festival, and our staff is a mixture of paid and volunteer workers. We have 55,000 unique visitors per month. We are given press access to music festivals and concerts.

So the review should stay there, you have no legitimate reason to take it down —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theradu123 (talk • contribs) 01:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Defeated Sanity/GA1
Hi, I noticed you removed this nomination, I appreciate that the lack of feedback from the reviewer must have been a little disheartening. A number of editors did ask your reviewer to update the statues, but these requests were ignored it seems. If you like, the review can be restarted and your article can be placed atop the GAN list, so it can be reviewed quicker. If this is what you would like, please let me know. If you have any other questions or requests, please let me know. We will try to ensure your article is reviewed swiftly, if that is what you would like. Best. — Realist  2  06:15, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, it's been reviewed, best of luck, try your best. If you need any help, please contact me. — Realist  2  22:22, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I did some clean up, ensure what I wrote was still factually accurate, then update the GAN review. Best. — R  2  07:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Rufus Wainwright discography
Thank you SO MUCH for your feedback and suggestions regarding the Rufus Wainwright discography. I have made many edits based on your comments, and am working on additional improvements at the moment. I did leave some comments on the PR entry for you, if you care to take a look at your earliest convenience. I look forward to making the article complete, and (hopefully) eventually taking the discography to FL nomination. Thanks again! -Whataworld06 (talk) 02:38, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, regarding "Lists of miscellaneous information": is it really better to remove the information than not have it in the discography at all? I am not sure where else to place the information. Wainwright composes orchestrations and has other side projects, but I didn't know how else to display these "other" pieces without an "Other" section. -Whataworld06 (talk) 02:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Chaos A.D.
Yeah, I kinda put it aside... I was devoting my energies to the Sarcófago article, but when I "encher o saco" I'll go back to Sepultura! Musicaindustrial (talk) 14:08, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I have 2/3 of it. Last year I downloaded Under Siege (1992) and Third World Chaos (1995) from eMule, but was unable to find We Are What We Are (1997). Musicaindustrial (talk) 20:23, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Abigail Willams Associated acts
Abigail Williams is not associated with any of the bands listed (i.e Job For A Cowboy, Black Dahlia Murder) being that none of the members in the band have ever played for them, the only band that belongs in that section is Winds Of Plague being that the Keyboardist is a former WOP member.User:Sepulwiki 19:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I dont understand, you revert all of my edits and call them vandalism, you can help by leaving the associated acts the way it is.

Sevendust discography
Something does not look right about some of their album sales, could you take a look at past revisions and some of the references, i checked one out and it was a false reference.User:Sepulwiki 05:45, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Lamb of God
I would  like  to know,  why you  continously revert my edits   on  Lamb of God,  upon,  I've  already  let it go "your way"  with reverting a big clean-up  edit  of  mine that you didn't exactly agree with some reason,  you're now reverting edits of mine that add missing periods along  with a caption for  the band photo that reads "Randy Blythe and Willie Adler at With Full Force in 2007" as I was changing  "Randy Blythe and Willie Adler"  to  "Lamb  of God', just because they're the only ones shown, doesn't  mean they're the only  ones playing instruments.  You might wanna read good faith, you seem  to of undone  a lot of my edits in  the past due to paranoia,  or just because something doesn't go totally  your way.   GunMetal Angel  01:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

You might wanna read good faith, you seem to of undone a lot of my edits in the past due to paranoia, or just because something doesn't go totally your way.


 * Taken from WP:AOBF: Making accusations of bad faith (as can be seen in the above sentence) can be inflammatory and hence these accusations may be unhelpful in a dispute. It can be seen as a personal attack if bad faith motives are alleged without clear evidence that others' editing is actually in bad faith. Ask me to "read good faith" and call me "paranoid", are personal attacks.


 * The answer to your question: Captions (Most captions are not real sentences, but extended nominal groups; for example, "The Conservatory during Macquarie Night Lights, a summer festival" (no final period), but "The Conservatory was spotlit during Macquarie Night Lights, a summer festival." (full sentence with final period).). Regards, Canniba  loki  02:53, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Dream Theater and Machine Head
Hey dude. Would you mind giving me suggestions or help out with Dream Theater discography and Machine Head discography? Machine Head discog is a pain because there is a music video that I CAN NOT find a reliable source for. Thanks, Burningclean  [speak]  02:17, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

OMG
Yay! Thanks muchly for the help! GARDEN 09:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Midnight Oil discography
Can you please clarify on the FLC comments page as to whether all your comments have been resolved as it is unclear what your position is regarding this candidacy and am concerned that it will impact on the final determination. Dan arndt (talk) 01:20, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You sent the message to the wrong user.-- Canniba  loki  01:38, 11 February 2009 (UTC)