User talk:Namiba/Archive Aug 2007

Islam in Morocco
I noticed that in the Islam in Africa template, the link about Morocco simply led to Demographics of Morocco. I just created an Islam in morocco article. I was hoping that you could provide some critique and help while I develop it, as it is the first article i've ever created and could use some guidance as I develop it. I know you have a good track record with Africa stubs, so any help would be much appreciated. MezzoMezzo 23:02, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

DEFAULTSORT
The correct syntax for DEFAULTSORT is

DEFAULTSORT is a magic word, not a template. For more info, see Help:Categories and Help:Magic words.--DStoykov 01:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Johannesburg-stub
I'd probably just keep it, and double-stub. I'm not great fan of " -stub" types, since they smoosh together geos and non-geos, but there's an established pattern of lots of 'em. Eventually there might be enough to justify a Johannesburg-geo-stub, which would then get around the double-stubbing (or one could create them now, double-upmerged). For images, I'd use either or  (etc). For coding, I just generally use the natural parent, after fixing anything obviously flakey with it (in this case, SouthAfrica-geo-stub). Hope that helps. Alai 17:26, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Citation needed on 2007 Miami Dolphins season page
I don't see why a sentence about the coaching staff and team undergoing significant changes needs a citation right with it, since the timeline below lists all the changes. Chris Nelson 18:14, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

That is not an opinion. As indicated in the timeline below, there have been various changes to the coaching staff since the hiring of head coach Cam Cameron (which is the biggest change itself). It is in no way an opinion, but rather a fact that is verified later in the article. As the first paragraph is merely an intro, it would ruin it to include all the coaching changes right there.Chris Nelson 19:42, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Are you certain about what will happen? Can you predict the future? Because unless you can, saying something is "uncertain" is indeed a fact.

Fame of Hassan Mohamed Hassan
Dear Macmillan, Hassan is my Granpa. I am new here but trying to contribute and learning as I go with whatever time I could afford. The part on his relative lack of fame is evident through frequency of mention in the local news and literature. I cannot cite that! And he's almost totally forgotten in spite of the works you see there. Any suggestions on how to add this part. I should be working to add more as I go and I am learning about how to do one. I find your deletion without comments a bit strange but appreciate the goodwill nonetheless. --DesertMoh 01:51, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Family as source good enough for Wikipedia?
Dear Thomas, Here is information: welcome to the third world where formal literature is lacking that I --myself-- might not exist! :) Here is one case where Hassan has almost been skipped by all historians of Egyptian art, and what remains is only his works that I hope you won't delete from the image repository which has never been published anywhere else in print or on the web. I am well aware of the criticism of wikipedia and I am willing to 'do' something but not the citing of references which I and the family cannot produce.

Now here is my question: can our 'family' be an authentic reference good enough for wikipedia? could that stop others from the deletion of this paragraph or others? if that is not so, then now I understand why not many Egyptian artists are represented on wikipedia (and perhaps never will).

I am quite thankful for your early intervention. If I have started sending the link around for publicity and then much was deleted, I would have been disappointed and emabrrassed to the bones. Thanks again for the goodwill.

--DesertMoh 02:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

2007 Miami Dolphins Season sources
I'll source it all over the next day.Chris Nelson 01:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Stub sorting
Simone Perrotta, Matteo Ferrari, Petit were born outside their native countries. Cat them in both countries looks stupid, the countries they born, may they just spent childhood there. Cat them one best stub categories is their national team and/or there they spent their career. Matthew_hk  t  c  19:18, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Sean Bubin
Here's the source for his retirement: Pats1 23:19, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it looks to be rampantly over-applied, though there's clearly at least some valid use. If the latter isn't over 60 (as seems likely), I'd favour upmerger to. Alai 18:45, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Wildife of Africa
A new series is starting on African wildlife and soon enough I want 53 beautiful main articles. I have begun by Wildlife of Algeria please please help out on these missing articles of Africa. Even if it is just stubbing this work is much needed. I also plan a Wildlife of Cuba article. â¦ Sir Blofeld â¦ "Expecting you" Contribs 10:34, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Well this is the thing the articles will eventually become very detailed and long so that the template won't look "4 times" longer than the article -if the article is fully developed it won't look anywhere near so bad. Africa of course has the most countries so the template is considerably longer than the others- perhaps too long. It only looks odd because the stubs are so short!!!!. I hope we can get page for every country - with everything written properly and illustrated nicely which you would expect. It really amazes me the missing articles on wikipedia. We have an incredible diversity of articles even localized -but many important articles are strangely still missing. I created Tiger hunting earlier. I had expected there to be a major article on it already. â¦ Sir Blofeld â¦ "Expecting you" Contribs 14:31, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps it might be more appropriate to reformat the template into a horizontal template at the bottom rather than vertical as there are many countries? â¦ Sir Blofeld â¦ "Expecting you" Contribs 14:36, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes the best thing to do would be to quickly create a horizontal template to use as you said until all the articles are started and developed. If these articles are allowed to develop as they should (think how much detail you can cram into an article on a countries wildlife!! and all the different components) then I think the vertical template will look much better, the articles should be at least four times longer than the template not the other way round!!! â¦ Sir Blofeld â¦ "Expecting you" Contribs 14:42, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

However if I or several of us expanded all the stubs and missing articles quickly rather than fiddling about with another template then it might appear to solve the template problem. Then if the template still looks too long even in a full length article we can decide to replace it horizontally. â¦ Sir Blofeld â¦ "Expecting you" Contribs 14:46, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

re Billy Jack Haskins
Well, you may be right. It was a pretty close call, I guess. A couple of editors didn't agree, though. You can take it to deletion review and have a chance that it'd be overturned. Herostratus 15:52, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Calvin Johnson and Calvin Johnson (football player)
First of all, you didn't ask before you moved the page. Just because he was drafted didn't mean there was consensus to move the page.

Secondly, you do not move a page by simply copying and pasting the content. If you wish to move over a redirect, the new location must be moved somewhere else and deleted (or simply deleted in this case), the page you're moving from then needs to be moved using the "move" functionality.

Copy-and-paste moves are difficult to fix, but I won't get into that. I'll have to go look up the proper department to fix it, etc. In the meantime, study up on how to move a page before you do it again. âDisavian (talk/contribs) 20:24, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The correct page for controversial page moves is Requested moves, by the way. Shortcut: WP:RM. âDisavian (talk/contribs) 20:30, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Bucs10 comments
Yeah but I called him cute too, doesn't that cancel out?Chris Nelson 01:46, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

all right thanks, by the way do you know what to do if I forgot my password, I changed my username to Yankees10 from Bucs10, but I want to still use Bucs10. Do you know what to do?--Yankees10 02:06, 30 April 2007 (UTC)Yankees10 (used to be known as Bucs10)

Do you know what to do if I forgot my password? I did redirect it but all my edit history from Bucs10 isnt there--Yankees10 02:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC)Yankees10

Nigeria-sport-bio-stub
I don't have a count of Nigerian sportspeople stubs, the closest I can get is a stubsense count (months out of date) giving 40 articles (181 in total less 82 footy and 59 athletes), enough for an upmerged template. Once I finish creating my last batch of nominations I will have a fuller look into Nigeria. Waacstats 14:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

PS when sorting sportspeople I tend not to use africa(asia)-sport-bio unless there is no other sport cat to put them in otherwise you could end up with eg nigeria-bio-stub, gymanstics-bio-stub, olympic-medalist-stub and africa-sport-bio-stub which can look a mess and some people don't like to many templates. Waacstats 14:07, 30 April 2007 (UTC)