User talk:NaneNeu

Your submission at Articles for creation: DiVA (Academic archive online) (May 27)
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Sulfurboy (talk) 08:13, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: DiVA (Academic archive online) (May 27)
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Sulfurboy (talk) 09:00, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: DiVA (Academic archive online) (July 22)
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Chris Troutman ( talk ) 15:01, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: DiVA (Academic archive online) (November 26)
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Theroadislong (talk) 17:30, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

NaneNeu (talk) 08:06, 27 November 2020 (UTC)== DiVA, and conflict of interest? ==

Hi NaneNeu, I noticed that you have created a draft about DiVA, and that here you mention "our content" and say that "we have millions of downloads also from other people". That makes me wonder whether you are affiliated with the DiVA consortium/management in any way? In case you have such an affiliation, you should read up on the guidelines on editing with a conflict of interest, and if you have a professional connection to DiVA, you are required to comply with this policy. Please read through that and post the required disclosure on your user page. If you have any questions about how to do that, you can use the Wikipedia Teahouse, or post a question on this user talk page.

Regarding DiVA itself, I tend to agree that it is notable, but as a Swedish academic (I work as a senior lecturer at UU) I am perhaps a bit biased in its favour. However, I can understand why the draft has been declined so far: every Wikipedia article should be based on reliable, secondary, and independent sources; primary sources (such as DiVA itself) can be used to verify certain uncontroversial facts, but to show notability, what is required is secondary sources that are independent of the topic. They do not have to be journalistic sources, they can certainly be scholarly publications, but they do have to be secondary and independent, and they need to specifically discuss the topic – they can't be about some other subject and just mention the topic in passing. Currently, the draft has the following sources:


 * 1) DiVA itself – very much a primary source.
 * 2) A paper by Stefan Andersson and Aina Svensson, in Information Services & Use; that's a peer-reviewed publication so I believe it is a reliable source, but the authors are part of the DiVA consortium, so it is not an independent source.
 * 3) A directory listing for DiVA at OpenDOAR, which is neither secondary nor independent.
 * 4) A conference paper about using data from DiVA – this is a solid source, it is both reliable and independent. The main topic of the paper is not DiVA itself, but the data repository is a central topic in the paper, and I would argue that it does show some notability.
 * 5) An article from the Swedish Research Council; this is independent, but it is not really about DiVA as such. (Again, to show notability for a subject, there must be independent sources that are specifically about that subject.)
 * 6) Another article by Stefan Andersson (published in a festschrift to Ulf Göransson, I think?); this is fine for explaining the historical background of DiVA, but it is not independent.

I hope this made it a little clearer what kind of sources are required. I understand the frustration – again, to me DiVA is very much a notable archive, almost self-evidently so, but it is fundamentally important that Wikipedia articles are not based on what I or you or any other editor knows from our personal experience, but on what we can actually show in reliable published sources. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 18:32, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Great thanks for the reply. It is hard to find other references due to the reasons I mentioned earlier but I will not give in yet. NaneNeu (talk) 08:06, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: DiVA (open archive) has been accepted
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