User talk:Nanshu/Archive001

Hello and Welcome! I hope you like the place. --mav

Welcome. Great contributions about the Manchus and China. You might find the list of China related topics useful. olivier 13:01 Feb 7, 2003 (UTC)


 * thanks. Nanshu 07:57 Feb 12, 2003 (UTC)

Hi, you might know me from editing your edits regarding Korean-related articles. Just wanted to let you know I think your neutrality seem to be compromised regarding Korea. Regards, Jeejee

Mongolian Transcription

How do you, without knowledge of Mongolian, manage to transliterate Mongolian from Chinese? They look pretty accurate to my untrained eyes. What reference material, if any, do you use? --Menchi 11:51 Feb 19, 2003 (UTC)


 * I browsed Yuanshi and made reference to Japanese works with imperfect transcription.
 * I found . I don't read or write Mongolian but I can read the Mongolian script a little, for I am learning Manchu by myself. But its ambiguity makes it hard to transliterate Mongolian writings. -- Nanshu

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Hi, Nanshu, wellcome wikipedia. I suggest translate some words (article names from english to ja:)

domobot domotics

Regards.

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Can you translate the Esperanto article ?? . Thanks in advance. User:Mac


 * To what language? I currently edit only the English Wikipedia. -- Nanshu 09:02 Mar 1, 2003 (UTC)

Hi, I'm wondering if you might proofread the kanji on Slogans. Id appreciate it very much. Thank you. - &#35918&#30505


 * I don't see "&#22285;&#31807;&#19991;&#27846;". What is sure is that this isn't Japanese. Anyway Kanji is a writing system, so shouldn't be dealt with on the same basis as English or German. -- Nanshu 04:41 Mar 3, 2003 (UTC)

 &#22235;&#20154;&#24110;&#19975;&#23681; &#27611;&#20027;&#24109;&#19975;&#23681; 

As you suggested, I fixed all the "X (mikado)" article names: they should now read "Emperor X of Japan" or "Empress Y of Japan". Sumimasen deshita. --Uncle Ed

O.K. Thank you. -- Nanshu 03:53 Mar 29, 2003 (UTC)

No - Ed is very very wrong. We are still talking this over at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (names and titles). Please don't move anything until we settle this. --mav

I've just changed things back. Will we really reach consensus? -- Nanshu 05:22 Mar 29, 2003 (UTC)


 * Hopefully, but if that fails then we will have to vote. --mav

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Nanshu,

I'm all in favour of using &#333;,&#363; and the like for Japanese romanization, but you might want to update the Naming conventions (Japanese) page first. In case of a dispute one can simply point to it to solve the problem. From the pages you changed I take that you only do it once or for Kanji romanization, but not through out the entire article, I think that should go into the naming convention page.... cheers --synthetik 05:50 Apr 25, 2003 (UTC)

I once wrote it on the Talk page of Japanese naming conventions...oops, it wasn't moved together with the meta page. -- Nanshu 01:01 Apr 26, 2003 (UTC)

--- Wouldn't mind your opinion on a revert (we have some funny editing going on!??!) .. over at History of China (see talk page). -- prat


 * My edit isn't deleted by him yet. --Nanshu 23:28 2 Jun 2003 (UTC)

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I have copied the examples of kaibun to palindrome. I believed it belongs to the section "symmetry by characters" (previously "symmetry by letters) but Kowloonese move it to "symmetry by sound". Opinions from a person who really knows Japanese is definitely needed.  User:Wshun

I think so too. "Symmetry by sound" sounds like taking phoneme as the unit. --Nanshu 23:35 22 Jun 2003 (UTC)

What are your comments on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese)? --Menchi 21:17 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Re: Gundam Seed - I added an introductory paragraph to try and save the article. I also added a note to VfD for Sept 6, aboiut moving the pieces back into the article. Since the contributer is anonymous, and you were the only positive vote in VfD, I thought to mention it here. The whole subject is so off-topic for me that I probably wont follow-up. If you're also not intersted, then I apopgize for th interruption. Lou I 18:45, 13 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Nanshu: I just found by chance an article on the Web ("Chosun vs. Han") whose wording is almost identical to your article, Korean names for Korea. (The URL is http://www.geocities.com/neue_strassenbahn/chosunhan.html ). Did you write that article, or did that Web site use the Wiki article? I am concerned because that Web site (main page: http://www.geocities.com/neue_strassenbahn/index.html ) is definitely POV. --Sewing 17:59, 11 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Hi, Nanshu: for the period in Korean history from 1910 to 1945, I suggest the more neutral term Japanese Colonial Period (Korea). There is a short discussion of it on Talk:Yalu River. Please let us know what you think. --Sewing 22:48, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)~

Names of Japanese railway stations
Hey, Nanshu: You were correct in your early edits to capitalize the "S" in "Station" in railway station names used as article titles. (For example, the Kobe Station link in the Tokaido Main Line article, which Synthetik later changed to Kobe station.) "X Station" is a proper noun, and Naming Conventions states that the second and subsequent words should only be lowercase if the article title is not a proper noun. I guess after his edit, you followed his example and began using lower case "s"s. Anyhow, I moved Kobe station to Kobe Station this morning, BUT then I discovered there are far too many instances of "station" with a lower-case "s" for me to change them all! I reverted the change to keep everything standardized, but I thought I would let you know that you were right... I also added a comment to Naming conventions (Japanese). By the way, just so you know, I have visited Japan and am interested in Japanese cultural and social issues. I have contributed articles on the Tokaido, Nakasendo, and Central Japan Railway Company. --Sewing 17:32, 24 Oct 2003 (UTC)


 * Done! --Nanshu 03:20, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Regarding "Shinobi" article on the list of Japan-related topics
Since the article Shinobi is a disambiguation page, I don't think it should be listed in the List of Japan-related topics. However, Shinobi (video game), imo, should be listed. WhisperToMe 03:27, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)


 * I list disambiguation pages in the List of Japan-related topics because I maintain the list to monitor Japan-related changes at "Related changes". --Nanshu 23:09, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Korean
Hello, I am so happy that there is someone else here who likes to add info from non-english sources and I hope you will feel my solidarity with you. I noticed today you have a couple of comments which seem anti-korean. Is this the case? I would like to suggest in order not to have your intentions mistaken by any more people like my students in future that it is better to correct or add-to/augment info than to delete it arbitarily. All the best!


 * I'm not anti-Korean though I don't like their too "political" attitude toward history. --Nanshu 23:09, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Hi. I'm a Korean. Actually I really hate nationalistic movements on going nowdays in three nations of East Asia. So I fully understand what you meant when you made this comment down below: "I'm not anti-Korean though I don't like their too "political" attitude toward history. --Nanshu 23:09, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)". But I've just been going through your articles about Korea, I found you are especially interested in the history of invasions which devastated and killed cultural heritages and people of Korea. Well, I can't blame your SPECIAL interest in invasion-related matters. Looks like trying to prove something. I'm not interested in what you are really trying to. But If you want to write articles on this site to show something to the whole world, you'd better be really neutral. The thing is there's been a systematic problem. I mean many of the articles about East Asian history on the net were originally written by Japanese or Chinese historians several decades ago. And then, even Korean historians were taught by Japanese historians and didn't have their own therories and thought. Especially, Japanese historians had tried to make Korean history shorter, smaller, dependent and stagnant. It was a dark side of the age of babarous imperialism. Now, it's different. I'm not talking about normal Korean's somewhat nationalistic view on history. I'm talking about the facts and historical truth scholars have found so far.

Please take a look recently-made papers and references. And get a grip of what historians have found. (for example, paying tribute to Chinese nations didn't mean what tribute means literally. It was just a sort of diplomatic form for other countries outside of China.)

If I make you uncomfortable, I'm sorry. I'll come by later. (to email me: mmaclery@hotmail.com)

p.s Are there really people now who insist "We are Bohai people" in China? I don't think so. Plus, What do you think about Chinese 'NATIONAL' project to make all the histories of ethnic minorities tributary to Han China just for political stability? They are USING history just as a tool of politics just like Japanese historians did once. I can't find any identity and purity as historian.

Hi. mmaclery again. I've just been to you web site in Geocities (http://www.geocities.com/neue_strassenbahn/index.html). I agree with some of your opinions, not all of them, (actually I am sick and tired with the people who's insisting Korea is the home of all culture sort of S*** too.) but I could see your POV on Korea clearly. You know, every countury has same crazy kinda people. I guess you are a Japanese, and I've seen some of Japanese have exactly same kind of insanity. Japan was built in 660BC? At that time Yayoi boat people didn't even reached to the Japanese archipelago. It's a legend just like Dangun story (actually most of Korean historians trace Go-Joseon back to between 10-15 centuries BC. And It looks like true because of the dolmens and bronze-age artifacts discovered in Korean penninsula and Liadong.). Be fair.

Hi Nanshu,

I wrote you a message on wiktionary regarding how your bot works. I'm trying to resurrect my php bot script, but it doesn't seem to work anymore with the new wiki server software.Polyglot 22:24, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Ah, thanks, I looked it up and manju is indeed Manchu for Manchu. Where did you find out that Hong Taiji is Manchu for Huang Taiji? I couldn't find Hong Taiji anywhere on the web (English pages, though) and it looks like a Sinicized form to me. --Xiaopo's Talk 04:07, Jan 10, 2004 (UTC)

I found the name Hong Taiji when I was learning the Manchu language. That name was completely blacked out in Manwen Laotang and some other Manchu documents to avoid discourtesy. I don't know its origin but I think it had something to do with Khong Tayiji. BTW, do you know why he is sometimes called Abahai? This is my old question. --Nanshu 04:04, 11 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Nanshu, thanks for clarifying the Japan article. I couldn't tell if this guy was a vandal or not until he started adding "Clown Prince" to things. I've reverted most, but I would suggest checking the other articles he modified just to make sure things are OK.  Fuzheado 02:54, 14 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, I will do some checking. --Nanshu 00:33, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

With regard to Abahai, I have a reference to Giovanni Stary, "The emperor 'Abahai': Analysis of a Historical Mistake," Central Asiatic Journal, 28, Nos. 3-4 (1984), pp. 296-9 but I don't know anything about the topic myself (flipping casually through http://assets.cambridge.org/0521243343/sample/0521243343WS.pdf).

Mgmei 23:06, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)