User talk:Naomisargeant

Your submission at Articles for creation: Fahad Badar (March 26)
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Sulfurboy (talk) 21:32, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

April 2020
Hello Naomisargeant. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat SEO.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Naomisargeant. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 331dot (talk) 17:52, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello 331dot this is not the case. I offered to help my friend out for the page and discovered the notice about it being removed because it was beleived to have been paid for. However this is not the case, and as I have little experience with wiki i tried to do a clean up and edit. Which is also very confusing and so I tried to investigate further on how to get help as why it was removed and how to get it back up. How can you help regarding this and what needs to be done to ensure it complies with the wiki rules? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naomisargeant (talk • contribs)
 * I have off-wiki reason to believe that you have a paid relationship that you have not disclosed. I am not allowed to publicly reveal why I think so, but I think the odds are more likely than not. 331dot (talk) 13:16, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

331dot I did not create the article and my friend who the article is about asked me to see why it has been removed. So I thought it needed a clean up or edit as the text said in the help pages. However I have not been paid to create the article. So how can we move forward on this, can it be deleted and the person himself create an account and resubmit the page or can we resolve this issue for this article in someway?
 * You created your version of this draft with the edit summary "I have created a new one as a friend on behalf of the first Arab male to double summit Mount Everest and Lhotse in a single expedition". So are you just a friend of Mr. Badar? Or are you a friend of a friend? We can't help you unless you are entirely forthcoming about your relationship or connection with Mr. Badar. 331dot (talk) 15:13, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

I am the friend of Fahad, I dont know who created the other one. When the original page was up and then disappeared I thought then something weird happened then I found it with some searching in a draft mode with the message. So then I thought maybe I should just create a new one, then when I did the message gave me its in draft and its a conflict as there is already an article under Fahad Badar name. So then I tried to edit the old one as it said something about a clean up page, but then that didnt achieve anything. So then I read somewhere that I need to request the one I made to be deleted. So you see I really am clueless to all of this and all I am trying to do is get my friends page reinstated as he really deserves to have his bio article up due to his achievements. It took me weeks to even find out how to get here. So yes please if you can understand this really is not what you are suggesting and all I am trying to do is get this friends article back up as he really deserves to be mentioned.

May 2020
Your account has been blocked indefinitely for advertising or promotion and violating the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use. This is because you have been making promotional edits to topics in which you have an undisclosed financial stake, yet you have failed to adhere to the mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a form of conflict of interest (COI) editing which involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is strictly prohibited. Using this site for advertising or promotion is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, please read our guide to appealing blocks to understand more about unblock requests, and then add the text at the end of your user talk page. For that request to be considered, you must:
 * Confirm that you have read and understand the Terms of Use and paid editing disclosure requirements.
 * State clearly how you are being compensated for your edits, and describe any affiliation or conflict of interest you might have with the subjects you have written about.
 * Describe how you intend to edit such topics in the future. 331dot (talk) 20:05, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't believe that you are being entirely forthcoming and that there is more of a connection than you have stated. At a minimum, you have a conflict of interest. You are welcome to request unblock for someone else to review. I'm sorry. 331dot (talk) 20:06, 3 May 2020 (UTC)