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Delta Sigma Theta members category
Every single article listed that I added came from the article that lists the members of the sorority. Until proven otherwise, I am assuming every woman listed on that page belongs there and therefore in the category. If you do not believe they belong in the categor y, then to be consistent you should remove them from the list. Postcard Cathy (talk) 06:33, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

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Museum hacks and museum edits
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Upcoming events:


 * February 6–8: The third annual ArtBytes Hackathon at the Walters Art Museum! This year Wikimedia DC is partnering with the Walters for a hack-a-thon at the intersection of art and technology, and I would like to see Wikimedia well represented.
 * February 11: The monthly WikiSalon, same place as usual. RSVP on Meetup or just show up!
 * February 15: Wiki Loves Small Museums in Ocean City. Mary Mark Ockerbloom, with support from Wikimedia DC, will be leading a workshop at the Small Museum Association Conference on how they can contribute to Wikipedia. Tons of representatives from GLAM institutions will be present, and we are looking for volunteers. If you would like to help out, check out "Information for Volunteers".

I am also pleased to announce events for Wikimedia DC Black History Month with Howard University and NPR. Details on those events soon.

If you have any questions or have any requests, please email me at james.hare@undefinedwikimediadc.org.

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Wikimedia DC celebrates Black History Month, and more!
 Hello again!

Not even a week ago I sent out a message talking about upcoming events in DC. Guess what? There are more events coming up in February.

First, as a reminder, there is a WikiSalon on February 11 (RSVP here or just show up) and Wiki Loves Small Museums at the Small Museum Association Conference on February 15 (more information here).

Now, I am very pleased to announce:


 * Tuesday, February 17 from 10 AM to 3 PM there will be #WikiTurgy at the University of Maryland. Join fellow theatre enthusiasts for a “mass act of public dramaturgy!”
 * Thursday, February 19 from 10 AM to 4 PM we are hosting the Howard University Black History Edit-a-Thon. We are working in partnership with the Moorland-Spingarn Research Center to improve Wikipedia’s coverage of African-American and African diasporic history.
 * Tuesday, February 24 from 6 PM to 8 PM we have the Black History Month “First Edit” at NPR. Help improve Wikipedia and help others make their first edit to Wikipedia!
 * Finally, our monthly dinner meetup is on Saturday, February 28.

There is going to be a lot going on, and I hope you can come to some of the events!

If you have any questions or need any special accommodations, please let me know.

Regards,

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UP College of Law Fraternities and Sororities
Hi Naraht, you have a good point here. There is actually no difference between the organizations you have mentioned (basing on the official list in the UP College of Law website). I will do the necessary changes. Thanks for bringing this up.

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2015 Egyptian military intervention in Libya
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Editing for Women's History in March
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I am very excited to announce this month’s events, focused on Women’s History Month:


 * Sunday, March 8: Women in the Arts 2015 Edit-a-thon – 10 AM to 4 PM
 * Women in the Arts and ArtAndFeminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon at the National Museum of Women in the Arts. Free coffee and lunch served!
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 * Wednesday, March 11: March WikiSalon – 7 PM to 9 PM
 * An evening gathering with free-flowing conversation and free pizza.
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 * Friday, March 13: NIH Women's History Month Edit-a-Thon – 9 AM to 4 PM
 * In honor of Women’s History Month, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) is organizing and hosting an edit-a-thon to improve coverage of women in science in Wikipedia. Free coffee and lunch served!
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 * Saturday, March 21: Women in STEM Edit-a-Thon at DCPL – 12 PM
 * Celebrate Women's History Month by building, editing, and expanding articles about women in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics fields during DC Public Library's first full-day edit-a-thon.
 * More information • RSVP on Meetup
 * Friday, March 27: She Blinded Me with Science, Part III – 10 AM to 4 PM
 * Smithsonian Institution Archives Groundbreaking Women in Science Wikipedia Edit-a-thon. Free lunch courtesy of Wikimedia DC!
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 * Saturday, March 28: March Dinner Meetup – 6 PM
 * Dinner and drinks with your fellow Wikipedians!
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Phi Gamma Delta letters
I received your message regarding the reason why the changes removing the Greek version of the fraternity letters were considered censorship. While I question whether simply changing the way the letters are displayed from their Greek to their English equivalents should actually be considered "censorship," I understand the point you're making and can abide by the explanation. Dougfields (talk) 18:32, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Naraht, I see I'm not the only one to be surprised by the reversion of "FIJI" to "ΦΓΔ". I don't have any skin in the game here. I'm a Greek, an experienced Wikipedia editor with tough hide, and I'm not a Fiji. Nor do I favor giving one group any perceptual edge over another, akin to saying their letters are more special then ours. But in writing the articles where Fiji's name is mentioned, members wrote to me asking for this courtesy, and so I went with it. Really, why the heck not?  I'd point out that this IS NOT censorship - governments censor.  Rather, what this IS about is a respectful accommodation to how that group wants to be identified. Further, since I noted the rationale as references on the pages I authored, perhaps it would have been more helpful for you to have addressed the matter on a Talk page. Jax MN (talk) 19:31, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've read the WP:CENSOR admonition. Still, this seems unnecessarily annoying in this case, to overrule how this organization wants others to name them. Jax MN (talk) 19:37, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:CENSOR and indeed Censor make it clear that censorship is a concept applied to Wikipedia rather than just by governments. Wikipedia has received a large number of requests from various Muslims to remove images preporting to be of Mohammed, and fulfilling their requests would be censorship of the article on which it occurs. On the Talk page for the Phi Gamma Delta article, Question 6, there is information for how *on that article* a setting can be done for a user with an account so they don't see it. That enclosing script can be added to other locations where the greek letters exist, but the information on how to use it would be necessary. If the President of Exxon-Mobil asked that wikipedia refer to it by Esso in Wikipedia, we wouldn't do so unless that was the way that the NYT & Washington Post started doing so. The legal name of the group is Phi Gamma Delta,


 * The fact that Phi Gamma Delta limits where members of the fraternity use it *is* a relevant piece of information to be mentioned in the the article about Phi Gamma Delta, however that limitation is only for the members of the fraternity, which neither Wikipedia *nor* the large majority of its members are. I'm also a member of a Greek Letter Fraternity (mentioned on my user page). I've also been through this discussion at Talk:Phi Gamma Delta. I fully support the use of FIJI when the abbreviations ATO or DU or Phi Kapp is used and recently FIJI was *added* to the descriptor at the Phi Gamma Delta page.(note, I asked their national when to use FIJI and when to use Fiji, and the answer that I got was FIJI when referring to the Fraternity, Fiji when used as an adjective (so, he is a FIJI, he lives in the Fiji house), but I can't find that referenced). Naraht (talk) 20:55, 2 March 2015 (UTC)


 * We have a difference of opinion then. Naraht, you do a lot of good on Wikipedia, which I'll state for the record, because more casual readers and editors may think you are bullying over a small potatoes issue. Yeah, I wish FIJI used letters like others do. But it takes all kinds to make a world, and I would therefore grant them that small courtesy since they asked me with what I thought was great sincerity over a reasonable point of their own branding. Sheeesh. This isn't Mohammed, and they aren't Exxon. Aren't there other, more pressing and bigger errors on Wikipedia that an editor of your prodigious and quite helpful output should spend their time on? Jax MN (talk) 21:19, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * No, it isn't Mohammed. But the policy covers matters great and small. I've spend *years* along with other editors dealing with the continued deletions of the greek letters on the Phi Gamma Delta page (the large majority of which weren't even close to as courteous as Dougfields). At one point even the replacement of the letters with a small image of the Phi Gamma Delta flag (Purple with white letters and a star) was considered, but the decision was made to keep consistency with the other GLOs. I'm just not sure why "..their own branding" should ever be a consideration in what should and should not be on Wikipedia. (And I've had to explain this to my *own* national fraternity!)

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Upcoming attractions in DC
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Here are some upcoming DC meetups in April and May:


 * Tuesday, April 14: National Archives Hackathon on Wikipedia Space with American University – 2:30-5pm
 * See the latest work on the Wikipedia Space exhibit in the new NARA Innovation Hub and brainstorm on new ideas for a public exhibit about Wikipedia
 * Friday, April 17: Women in Tech Edit-a-thon with Tech LadyMafia – 5-9pm
 * Team up with Tech LadyMafia to improve Wikipedia content on women in the history of technology.
 * Saturday, April 25: April Dinner Meetup – 6 PM
 * Dinner and drinks with your fellow Wikipedians!
 * Friday, May 1: International Labour Day Edit-a-Thon – 1:30 PM to 4:30 PM
 * An edit-a-thon at the University of Maryland

Hope to see you at these events! If you have any questions or require any special accommodations, please let me know.

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Delta Kappa
Thanks for your edits on the page. The table grid is a good idea. If you don't mind I will add that myself so I can learn more about editing. Also, should I add information about a DK national officer who became a Sigma Pi national officer? Gooseneck41 12:46, 16 April 2015
 * Have fun with the tables, maybe columns

or something similar name after being let me know if you have any help, I've done a few List of Alpha Phi Omega chapters, for example. :) And for the national officer who came over, just make sure it is referenced, but the Sigma Pi magazines would be very useful for that.Naraht (talk) 17:39, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
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About Durham Collage
Hey Narhat,

Thanks for the heads up about the lack of info on the college. I didn't know if I would need to do more than just add a few internal links but you pretty much answered that question. And Nice job or making all of the links on your fraternity page blue :o I'm just getting the hang of putting up the right number of said links, so just think of me as that random person that loves to add links that aren't red. Thanks for the welcome and just ask me if i can help out for adding links on other pages or if you can teach me anymore stuff than what I've read on the guidelines.


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Potential GA Nomination
Hi Naraht, I just wanted to let you know I'm planning to nominate University of Virginia Greek life for GA status (it currently has a B rating). Since you've been helping with the article I thought you might be interested. If you have thoughts or suggestions let me know. Thanks again for all your help! Puppysnot (talk) 15:13, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Well the phrasing where the chapter names were added may need to be altered. Also, the descriptions of the Professional seems a little stilted, at the level of *anyone* who wants to rewrite them, I'd probably be happy with. No reference for Chi Epsilon. Sorting on the dates puts ADPhi in third place, even though Beta Theta Pi claims to be third. We may want to add a dts hidden to put that one at the end of the year. Let me know if I should copy this list to the article talk page...Naraht (talk)
 * Thanks for the feedback. I rephrased the chapter names where it needed to be done, expanded some professional society descriptions slightly (it's difficult to find notes about them though, since most don't have their own chapter websites), added a reference for Chi Epsilon, edited Beta's description, and added a few more honor societies. Unfortunately I couldn't find a reference for the founding dates of Chi Epsilon or Alpha Sigma Lambda, but I'll keep looking. Puppysnot (talk) 16:31, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Cool. I think I found something for Chi Epsilon. Couldn't find *anything* for ASL. I think proposing as a GA is a good way to get others to look at the article.Naraht (talk) 17:20, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

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Please would you consider using more informative edit summaries. You recently corrected the spelling of Johns Hopkins University in various articles. It would have helped if in some of those edits you had put an explanation. I mistook those edits for prank edits. Sorry. I have self-reverted my reverts.-- Toddy1 (talk) 19:26, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I appreciate it, but WP:Edit summary legend says it is not normally necessary. Let me give it some thought...Naraht (talk) 20:12, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

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 * Alpha Sigma Alpha, Delta Zeta, Phi Mu, Sigma Kappa, and Zeta Tau Alpha, one international sorority that is Hispanic-based (Gamma Phi Omega), and one multicultural

Tau Gamma Phi
I've started reviewing. The Sec of National Defense certainly is Enrile. I'm looking at the rest. The entire article could use more appropriate references, but it simply is harder to find those for the RP than for some other places. Sorry for the initial revert, but don't change articles like Alpha Phi Omega in the way that you did.Naraht (talk) 14:11, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, what is MDG?Naraht (talk) 14:13, 9 September 2015 (UTC)


 * ok sir. you knew that the sec. of defense was Enrile. but when i checked the Article of Tau Gamma Phi, i saw the article edited as below:


 * was raided under an Arrest-Search and Seizure Order signed by then Secretary of Defense Jose P. Manalo.[3][4][5]

Atty. Wally Bayola, took the trial initiative to explore the idea to tap the younger generations. They decided to recruit in the High School sector. This gave birth to the "Junior Tau Gamma Phi" or better known as the "Junior Triskelions", founded at San Beda College - High School in 1975, where Triskelion Paolo Ballesteros was one of the founders.[6]

i tried editing this once, but you returned the article the way you edited it.

you are being bias on editing other fraternities articles. you are making fun of them.

also,Sorry for the initial revert, but don't change articles like Tau Gamma Phi in the way that you did.

Article for deletion
Since we've had discussions in the past on the subject of Greek letter orgs, I thought you might want to know about Articles for deletion/Mu Omicron Gamma. Joys! and Best of Everything to You and Yours! – Painius 02:22, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanx. I voted to delete after trying for about 15 minutes to find *anything* useful. I've created Honor Society stubs that have had more accessible references.Naraht (talk) 13:52, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, Naraht, for spending the time to determine the outcome! No expert myself, so I wouldn't have known where to start. Painius  14:48, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Google is a good place to start, and someone had mentioned that they used to have a home page up and archive.org can be used from there. We each have different skills...Naraht (talk) 15:22, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

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Even though I did not write the article, I am failing to understand your recent revision (revert) that you recently did. Why were the wikilinks to his high school removed and instead, the use of the school district as a wikilink. To me, the way this is now written is grammatically incorrect. Does anyone really care what counties the school district he attended is located? If I wanted to know more about his school, I would go to his school page. Since I did not author this article, I will leave it as is, but I will check with a few other editors about the changes. You can leave a message on my user page. Thanks. Indyjrg1762 (talk) 22:22, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

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Katya
OK, so why don't you include this sources in the article, instead of simply closing it without votation or other advises? Milca jnr (talk) 17:14, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I wasn't the one who changed the article back to the redirect. (Strictly speaking that doesn't count as a closing, but he's right about the sources being insufficient) What you did is still available at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Katya_Zamolodchikova&oldid=692293868 . I'd suggest copying it to your sandbox and improving it. It would be reasonable for most if not all of the Queens who have been on RuPaul's drag race to have pages, including Katya. Take a look at some of the other pages in Category:RuPaul's Drag Race contestants (The winners are in a subcategory). I guarantee you *if* the references looks like those on Laganja Estranja or Alexis Mateo then it is *much* likelier to stay.Naraht (talk) 21:51, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * also, looing at the |history] of the article, it appears that actually did make a start of an article for Katya back in August which someone else changed back to the redirect.Naraht (talk) 21:59, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Phi Sigma Kappa Chapters
Hello Naraht. I'm not convinced that WP:EL requires or suggests the removal of website links to the chapters cited on the page, List of Phi Sigma Kappa chapters. You deleted them all, not even attempting the median step of turning these into reference items. I disagree with the necessity of your edit, but have little time to address the matter as I am at work. However, I thought I would challenge you on this since you and I have corresponded and I appreciate your previous work. Please know, if I am not convinced at your explanation, I may revert or seek a poll. Jax MN (talk) 19:44, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * . To me, this is almost a perfect example of what is meant by the following text in External_links: "'External link sections are not prohibited at the end of stand-alone lists or at the end of articles that contain embedded lists. However, the lists themselves should not be composed of external links. These lists are primarily intended as providing direct information and internal navigation, not a directory of sites on the web. This section does not apply if the external link is serving as a citation for a stand-alone list entry that otherwise meets that list's inclusion criteria.'" The large number of the sites are either facebook pages (which are inappropriate as links in most cases, and inappropriate as references in almost all cases) or chapter websites whose home pages do nothing to reference the data in the list other than the existence of the group. While some of the chapter websites have history sections which verify initial chartering, it is rare that the actual homepage of the site does. To take an example. the webpage for the chapter at UVA (which shouldn't have two www's) is a redirect to a page on the PSK website for the state of Virginia. Ohio State's has a subpage which would make sense as a reference, but not the mainpage. U of Michigan's is a facebook page. I don't see that any of these actually represent a reference for data other than the fact that at most, the chapter exists.Naraht (talk) 21:55, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Glenview Mansion (Rockville)
Hello Naraht, I made an edit to the Glenview Mansion (Rockville) page, I was curious to know what you thought of it. Thank you Belicimo (talk) 16:31, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Wonderful reference. I feel great about information from there being included. *However*, in some cases the text is an exact copy of what is on the Peerless Rockville page which raises copyright violation issues. Please rephrase in your own words, as you can.Naraht (talk) 16:57, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanbk you for the input ! :) Belicimo (talk) 04:09, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

edit war alert
My Bebe Love

2015 Metro Manila Film Festival — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.190.66.251 (talk) 08:34, 26 December 2015 (UTC)