User talk:Narathc

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Hello, Narathc, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Telemedicine in Tanzania, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may soon be deleted.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Telemedicine in Tanzania


A tag has been placed on Telemedicine in Tanzania, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. aηsuмaη  ༽Ϟ  08:30, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

October 2011
The article Telemedicine in Tanzania has been deleted in accordance with English Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion. The article had no content about its supposed subject matter, and we do not have "placeholder" articles waiting for a genuine article to be written. In addition, the content of an article should be about its subject, i.e in this case about telemedicine in Tanzania, not about writing a Wikipedia article about telemedicine in Tanzania: in fact an article should not mention itself or the editors who have written it. Also, you should not use an article to post contact information or recruitment messages to get people to help you. Finally, since you clearly have a close personal involvement in the proposed subject of the article, Wikipedia's conflict of interest guideline strongly discourages you from creating such an article. It may seem natural that a person involved in a subject is the best person to write about it, but in practice editing in such circumstances frequently results in content which is not written from the neutral, detached point of view that is required for a Wikipedia article. Even for editors who sincerely intend to write neutrally, it can be very difficult to stand back from such a subject and see how their writing will look to uninvolved third parties. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:47, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi James, thanks - I can appreciate the need not to just have placeholder pages in Wikipedia which is what I had created. I also appreciate your comments which appear quite specific, or if it is a template response, everyone's first wikipedia article must have similar problems. I'm working through the wizard and still think a page of active and past telemedicine projects in Tanzania (with appropriate study and newspaper links) would be notable, encyclopedic and useful. I am concerned about your comment on why I specifically should not write the article. I do know Professor Swai but am not Professor Swai. I am working on one of the telemedicine projects, which I will ask someone else to do the writeup for, but I do not know the other projects and do intend to do proper research. However, I am not an editor or writer for that matter, and you seem to have quite a bit of experience on wikipedia. The wizard suggests that a more appropriate way might be to try to recruit an experienced wikipedia editor. If so I as wondering if you would be interested in helping with the article. If not, perhaps you would have a reference or two for other editors. (Narathc (talk) 18:48, 6 October 2011 (UTC))


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Reviewing my comment above I think that some of the things I wrote may have been less helpful than they were intended to. For example, I said that you should not use an article for recruitment purpose, but I failed to say that there are other ways of asking for help, which are perfectly acceptable. The point about articles is that they are the published content of the encyclopaedia, and should be kept separate from the pages used for communicating among the people who are creating the encyclopaedia, just as the published pages of a book are separate from internal memos used within the publishing company. Therefore an article is not the place to tell us what you are planning to write, or to ask others to help, but there are other places where that kind of thing is welcome. I'm sorry for not having made that clearer in my first message.

Wikipedia is rather complicated, and can be totally confusing for a newcomer. However, I will try to point you at a few things that may be helpful. I have posted a (rather belated) welcome message above, which contains links to some pages which may be helpful to you. Don't try to read everything before you start, because there is (in my opinion) far too much of it, but do look and see what looks most likely to be helpful to you. Some of the links in the sections "Getting started" and "Getting help" may be useful to you. Unfortunately I don't think I am one of the best people to help with writing an article, as I have written only a few articles myself, most of my work being in other areas, such as anti-vandalism work. However, you are welcome to ask on my talk page for help in negotiating the confusing maze of policies, guidelines, administrative pages, and so on that you will unfortunately come across in the course of working here. I was going to suggest starting a draft article as a page in your user space, rather than directly as a new article, but I see you ahve already done so, at User:Narathc/Telemedicine in Tanzania. That is fine: if your first drafts are not suitable as an article it won't matter, and when it's ready it can be moved to Telemedicine in Tanzania.

As for the conflict of interest issue, I tend to be discouraging to new editors who seem to be closely involved in the subject they are writing about, because experience has shown that they are often not the right people to do so. However, there are certainly exceptions, and you may well be one of them. Editing in an area where you may be seen to have a conflict of interest is not forbidden, but it is important to be careful when doing so, and be aware of the need to take an objective view. I suggest looking at the conflict of interest guideline, which contains some good advice. Unfortunately, in my opinion it is far longer than it needs to be, like most Wikipedia guidelines and policies, and you may prefer to skim it and read the sections which seem most relevant, rather than reading it all.

I do hope that you have a successful time as a Wikipedia editor, and I hope my message above was not too offputting: it looks more unfriendly now than I intended it to be when I wrote it. JamesBWatson (talk) 07:54, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

December 2015
Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:Telemedicine in Tanzania, from its old location at User:Narathc/Telemedicine in Tanzania. This is because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. North America1000 10:27, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Telemedicine in Tanzania concern
Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Telemedicine in Tanzania, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

You may request Userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available at WP:REFUND/G13.

Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 22:09, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Telemedicine in Tanzania


Hello, Narathc. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "Telemedicine in Tanzania".

In accordance with our policy that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the  or  code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. — MRD2014 T C 14:38, 12 July 2016 (UTC)