User talk:Nat 8212

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Bobby Cheng
Hi Nat 8212. I have declined the speedy deletion of Bobby Cheng, since there is enough coverage to demonstrate notability. However, the article is still short on sources, and I have had to substantially condense it to bring it in line with Wikipedia norms. If you want to continue working on the article, please be aware of the need for information to be verifiable in reliable sources. You may also want to read the policy on biographies of living people. Thanks for your contribution, and I hope that you enjoy editing Wikipedia; if you'd like any help, please let me know on my talkpage. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 12:16, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Please don't simply re-add the deleted content. Not only is it utterly non-encyclopedic in tone, it is also completely unsupported by sources. If you would like to add a list of Cheng's opponents and the game results, and can find a reliable source for such a list, then be my guest; but please don't add large chunks of narrative text in a discursive tone. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 13:33, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Edited Content.
I get it that you talk in such a way that you think you no everything. If you think that the article I wrote about his path to success has no sources to back it up you obviously don't know how to use the internet. The source at the bottom consists of a piece written by Bobby Cheng him self. In the piece he clearly talks about his opponents. Do you seriously think that I made that all up? Not only do you think you know everything, but at the same time you think that I have no knowledge of what I am talking about, incase you didn't know I know Bobby Cheng personally... So just leave the page alone and go correct other people's "mistakes"...
 * * sigh*... Let's first try pointing you at why primary sources should not be used for the bulk of article content, why you shouldn't be editing an article about someone you know and why the tone of your additions is inappropriate. Then you should probably read up on how you don't own the article...
 * I may not know everything, but I'm pretty experienced in how Wikipedia works, and I'm offering to help you out to get the article to a good standard. There's no reason that Cheng's own commentary can't be included to some extent, but to base most of the article on his personal perspective is not appropriate; independent sources are required. I see you've deleted at least one of those that I added already.
 * My offer of assistance still stands; I'd be more than happy to help you learn the ropes here. However, your current combative attitude is not going to go down well in a community-based resource like this, and if you are not here to build an encyclopedia, then you probably won't last long. Message me at my talk page if you'd like a hand. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 22:38, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Bobby Cheng for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Bobby Cheng is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Bobby Cheng until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. SyG (talk) 14:07, 24 June 2012 (UTC)