User talk:Natalya/Archive12

Activity
I see you've returned after a long wikibreak. Just thought I'd come to welcome you back. :) Rudget  14:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Ubuntu
I've removed the speedy deletion notice that you put on Ubuntu, and replaced it with the redirect to Ubuntu (disambiguation) that was there before. I am confused as to why you thought it needed to be deleted; although there is discussion going on as to whether there is a primary topic for the disambiguation for "Ubuntu", we definitly need Ubuntu to direct users to the disambiguation page in one way or another. -- Nataly a 03:05, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, with the requested move, I sort of get it now. Apologies for the confusion.  We could do the move now, but I was holding off on fixing it until the discussion was resolved, just to that if more things get changed, we don't have to change it multiple times.  But, if it is really felt as necessary, I can go head and do it now. -- Nataly a  03:08, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the confusion. Please go ahead with the move. If there is controversy, however, please feel free to move it back. PwnerELITE (talk) 04:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Please consider taking the AGF Challenge
I would like to invite you to consider taking part in the AGF Challenge which has been proposed for use in the RfA process by User: Kim Bruning. You can answer in multiple choice format, or using essay answers, or anonymously. You can of course skip any parts of the Challenge you find objectionable or inadvisable.--Filll (talk) 17:16, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Just to say hai


Tinucherian has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend or a new friend. Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Have a great day ! --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 09:49, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Rfb participation thanks
Hello, Natalya.

I wanted to personally thank you for taking part in the project-wide discussions regarding my candidacy for bureaucratship. After bureaucratic discussion, the bureaucrats decided that there was sufficient significant and varied opposition to my candidacy, and thus no consensus to promote. Although personally disappointed, I both understand and respect their decision, especially in light of historical conservatism the project has had when selecting its bureaucrats. If you have any further suggestions or comments as to how you think I could help the project, please let me know. As you felt the need to remain neutral, I would appreciate any particular thoughts or advice you may have as to what flaws in my candidacy you perceived and how you feel they may be addressed, outside of being more active in the username arena. Once again, thank you for your participation. -- Avi (talk) 19:57, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

My RfA
Hi Natalya; I wanted to say thank you for supporting my request for adminship, which passed with 100 supports, 0 opposes and 1 neutral. I wanted to get round everybody individually, even though it's considered by some to be spam (which... I suppose it is! but anyway. :)). It means a lot to me that the community has placed its trust in my ability to use the extra buttons, and I only hope I can live up to its expectations. If you need anything, or notice something that bothers you, don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks again, PeterSymonds | talk  22:12, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

RFA Thanks
Thanks for your support at my recent Request for adminship. I hope you find I live up to your expectations. Best, Risker (talk) 15:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

RfA thank-spam
, just a note of appreciation for your recent support of my request for adminship, which ended successfully with 112 supports, 2 opposes, and 1 neutral. If there's something I've realized during my RFA process this last week, it's that adminship is primarily about trust. I will strive to honour that trust in my future interactions with the community. Many thanks! Gatoclass (talk) 06:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Invisible Kid (disambiguation)
Maybe you can help me. I'm indecisive on a blue link for the last entry. Which of the three entertainers would be the best one per MoS:DP? Please reply below, Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps putting the actor/actress with the most prominent role as the blue link? I checked IMDB, Movies.com, and Allmovie, and they all list Jay Underwood as the first star.  Additionaly, Allmovie had a movie poster, and Jay was the first billed actor.  So, if I had to decide, I'd go with him.  Do you think that makes some sense?  -- Nataly a  20:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Certainly. Thank you for all your help. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! Glad I could be of help. -- Nataly a  20:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Salutations
Hi Natalya! How's the encyclopedia treating you nowadays? :) Eric (EWS23) 20:59, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey Eric - nice to see you around! The encyclopedia is going pretty well; just recently got back into the swing of things here, and it's warning up well.  And yourself? -- Nataly a  21:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Doing well here. I can never be sure how long I'll be around, but I've been in the mood to edit quite a bit recently. Perhaps that's the key to an effective Wikibreak- staying away until you absolutely have to come back. :) Eric (EWS23) 21:06, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It's always nice to come back and really be in the mood to edit. And when not... well, that's what real life is for! :)  Yeah, I'd been popping by randomly and editing like one or two things, but I've been back more consistantly for a bit now.  -- Nataly a  21:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm sure the encyclopedia is glad to have you back. :) As always, feel free to let me know if there's anything I can do for you. Eric (EWS23) 21:17, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! The same to you, of course. -- Nataly a  21:17, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Your Bongo cleanup
I noticed this when it shot up my watchlist. Are you aware that redirects should be used in the place of direct links per WP:PIPING and that WP:WAF does not apply to dabs? Let me explain: you removed Bongo (Dragon Ball) (which the guideline prefers over its actual target) and added "fictional" to each character (this type of clarification is only necessary for fiction articles, though there are few exceptions, like DMZ (disambiguation) and Deep Six). Some good dab examples include Zero (disambiguation), Devilman (disambiguation), Rinku, Gouki, Lena (disambiguation), and Sarutobi. Does this make sense? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope, that does make sense. And now that you say that, it sounds familiar.  MoS:DP mentions that.  Thanks for the reminder!  There were two entires on Bongo that I did that for, so I'll be sure to fix them. -- Nataly a  22:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Glad you understood. You're probably wondering what the difference between the inclusion of "media" and/or "universe" is. Well, I use "media" when the item appears in more than one version of the subject. I use "universe" when the item appears in only one version of the subject. Here is an example:


 * Kuririn appears in Dragon Ball-related manga, anime, films, games, etc., therefore, the subject appears in many versions of Dragon Ball. So, "in Dragon Ball media" is used.
 * Zero appears in O-Parts Hunter-related manga, no where else. So, "in the O-Parts Hunter universe" is used.


 * I hope this cleared everything else up. Any concerns? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

My Recent Rfa
I would just like to say thanks for the neutral vote in my recent RFA. I will still say thanks as from your comments and the other users comments that opposed me and gave me a neutral vote have made me make a todo list for before my next RFA. I hope I will have resolved all of the issues before then and I hope that you would be able to support me in the future. If you would like to reply to this message or have any more suggestions for me then please message me on my talk page as I will not be checking back here. Thanks again.  ·Add§hore·  T alk /C ont 16:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Vizard (disambiguation)
New dab created. How's it looking? Wasn't sure which redirect to use for Visor; I found Vizard (Shakespearean English) and Visard, but used neither because Visor itself did not make a reference to any of these. What are your thoughts? Please reply below, Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 06:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting... I wonder why "Visard" redirects to "Visor" (must by the Shakespeare thing)? Perhaps if we can find a good description of what Visard in Shakespearean English means, we could put that link in, rather than having the redirect to Visor?  Until I saw the redirects, it wasn't clear to me why the Visor link was there (I now see, though).  -- Nataly a  12:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I encountered a similar problem with Shinto. There is a statement there that suggests the Naruto character (Haku (Naruto)) is known as "Shinto" in a Malaysian dub (actually tried to find a reliable source for this, no such luck). What should we do for these instances? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 16:58, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * When there are references such as that, and it isn't mentioned in the article, and if I do a Google search and it's not blatently obvious, I usually delete them (since they're unreferenced claims, pretty much). -- Nataly a 01:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I found this. Appears to have been a mistranslation or something, though I can't consider a wikia as a reliable source by any chance. Did you try a Google hit? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 02:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It looks like the reference is for the name "Shiro", anyway. I'd say it doesn't need to stay on. -- Nataly a  02:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm very sorry, just realized a mistake. I was thinking about the Shiro page and misspelled it as "Shinto". Can you look at Shiro? I'm thinking the citation can be written as a footnote. New thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * No worries. Do you think it would be possible to get the reference somewhere on the Haku (Naruto) page?  I feel like a footnote on a disambiguation page would be sort of odd (if that was what you meant), but if the mistranslation gets even a tiny mention on the actual article page, then we have a legitimate reason to link to it on the disambiguation page.  Plus, they hopefully would want the information there if it's valid. -- Nataly a  13:22, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Here is the Haku page before it was redirected. The Malay trivia is there but it is possibly original research (the Puer oblatus case is similar from what I've been told). Guess I can at least mark Shiro (Naruto) for deletion based on what I've concluded. Thanks for all the help ;) Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 05:30, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * You're most welcome! Always glad to collaborate to figure things out. -- Nataly a  16:15, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * And now on the Puer dab. I discovered Puer oblatus, and would like to list it, except Oblate (religion) (which is Puer oblatus' target) does not mention any "Puer". Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * When it seems like I am too unfamiliar with the subject matter to know if a disambiguation term is legitimate or not, sometimes posting on the appropriate article talk page or a related Wikiproject can help with clarification. -- Nataly a 01:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Any WikiProject in mind? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 02:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * How about WikiProject Christianity? -- Nataly a 02:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Will do. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Uh-oh, someone redirected the Vizard dab . What to do? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:52, 26 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Start up a discussion with the editor, I'd say (you can do it!). Discuss why you think it should be a disambiguation page, and see if you can come to an agreement one way or the other, perhaps. -- Nataly a  19:24, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks so much for your support in my RfA, which closed successfully this morning. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 19:41, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Signature
Hey, thanks for catching my unsigned comment. Bob the Wikipedian (talk) 22:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome - no problem! -- Nataly a 12:48, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Happy birthday!
It's also my birthday too!  Soxred  93  02:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Idontknow 610 TM 19:26, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello
Hi Natalya. I have to log of right now, I promise I'll let you know tomorrow. I welcome all the help we can get! At present though discussing the bot seems to be on the agenda (despite it already sealed with approval. Best regards, will post to you tomorrow morning . ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 21:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. First of all we need to check the blue links. If they lead to the corretc page of an existing article in that province/country then we leave it. However most lead to an existing page of a totall different article or a town in a different country or province or an existing dab page. What we want is to correct the links accordingly to the province it is in. E.g see Andar. If initially you only find one place in the country with that name (providing the title is being used for a different article then it should be dabbed e.g Andar, Afghanistan. Howver if there are multiple pages of the same name in that country it sohould be linked by province or district like Andar, Wardak etc. The links can always be changed afterwards if we find more settlements with the same name. Afghanistan though as you can see has been done, but Bangladesh hasn't even been started on yet. Problems do arise when there are multiple places in the same province so is difficult to distinguish. these should be placed at the top of the page in a "problematic naming" section and posted on the general page for problematic names which will need sorting out later. Once you have addressed the links on eahc page please mark it with a ✅ and let us know. Thanks   ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 09:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, things are getting clearer - thanks for the explanation. So, if there is a blue-linked page, but goes to a different settlement, we should rename the settlements appropriately, and make the blue-linked page a disambiguation page?  (This is what I took away from Andar, but do let me know if I've got that wrong).  If that is true, if there are multiple red-linked places by the same name, should we go ahead and create a disambiguation page, and rename all the different red-links appropriately?  -- Nataly a  12:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Sort of. If looking through the pages in the missing articles if you come across a blue link then you sort the disamb out on the relative page like Andar etc. But once that is done you turn the false blue link into a red one on the missing list which is dabbed ready for starting the correct page. Note afghsniastan has been dabbed already and links like Andar, Wardak have been fixed ready. So basically any blue links you see need to be checked Ernst Stavro Blofeld       $1 million? 12:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool - that makes sense. For the second part of the question, though, if there are multiple red-linked places by the same name, should we go ahead and create a disambiguation page, and rename all the different red-links appropriately (so that they all remain red-links but there is a blue-linked disambiguation page for them)? -- Nataly a  12:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes thats right. But occasionally you may find one or two existing articles on different subjects under the same name already dabbed which are blue linked on different topics. These should also be on the dab page of course with all the re dlinks you have added for the settlmeents Ernst Stavro Blofeld       $1 million? 12:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Great! Thanks for the clarifications! -- Nataly a  12:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Your're welcome. Bangladesh is highest on the agenda now Ernst Stavro Blofeld       $1 million? 12:38, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh wow your're a singer and pianist? I'm a dedicated musician too. Started playing piano and guitar aged 7!! Now 18 years later I'm still playing! Ernst Stavro Blofeld     <font size="-4"> $1 million? 12:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I took piano through most of grade school too. My skills definitly laxed after I stopped taking lessons, but I still have a good time dabbling around (and, like, working on one piece for the past two years :D).  That's great that you're still playing. -- Nataly a  12:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes I reached Grade 8 around aged 14 but hese days I barely look at sheet music but play by ear!. Mostly play guitar now but I often sit down and play piano in the conservatory every few days. I'd love to learn the Cello, music by people like Yo Yo Ma is so beautiful <font style="color:#fef;background:navy;">Ernst Stavro Blofeld      <font size="-4"> $1 million? 12:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The cello is beautiful! One of my greatest regrets (well, not really greatest, but I do regret it) is that I played it for like three years when I was like 8, and then stopped.  Now whenever I see/hear people playing the cello, I wish that I still played. :)  So it goes, though!  Music in general is great - I like that it's something that [almost] everyone likes in one form or another, because there are so many different kinds. -- Nataly a  12:58, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Have a look at Yo Yo Ma and Morricone at youtube -two of my favourites. Ennio Morricone one of my favourite composers of all time. <font style="color:#fef;background:navy;">Ernst Stavro Blofeld     <font size="-4"> $1 million? 13:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Very cool! -- Nataly a 13:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

The most soothing music I listen to though is native Hawaiian music. So beautiful and refreshing. Have a listen to this. <font style="color:#fef;background:navy;">Ernst Stavro Blofeld     <font size="-4"> $1 million? 13:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That was really nice; very soothing. For relaxing music, I really enjoy putting all of Enya's music on shuffle. -- Nataly a  17:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Clannad are great aren't they! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 17:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages
Thanks for the information :-) CultureDrone (talk) 16:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Arnold (character)
Should Arnold (fictional character) be re-targeted to this article or do you believe some kind of merger with Arnold (disambiguation) would be best? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Let's see... most of the fictional characters are covered on Arnold (given name). I know that WP:WikiProject Anthroponymy states that the surname pages should contain fictional characters.  If the fictional characters are actually known as just "Arnold", then I think it's appropriate to also include them on the disambiguation page, like we would for anything else.  If not, though, I think they can be solely at Arnold (given name).  So, I'd say merge any information that is on Arnold (character) to Arnold (given name) if it's not already there, and then just have a link at Arnold (disambiguation) to Arnold (given name), like is already there.  What do you think? -- Nataly a  23:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Methinks this is a bit confusing. Should I merge the data from Arnold (character) to Arnold (disambiguation) and sort things out from there? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 00:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Conservatively, I'd say only the people at Arnold (character) who are really referred to as just "Arnold", I'd think. Arnold (Hey Arnold!) and Arnold the paperboy seem to be the appropriate ones.  But, it probably won't do a whole lot of harm to put them all on the disambiguation page. -- Nataly a  00:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually your way does sound easier, though I'll have to do it later (when I'm more awake). Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 00:58, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll fix up the Arnolds. Can you take a shot at Serena? Appears there is a primary topic which shouldn't be there, though I'm not sure if the Wiktionary link could pass. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 07:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I took out the dictionary definition, but added Wiktionary link. Should be okay. -- Nataly a  12:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Funny depends on the audience
I try to be easy-going, but if you look at the history of Masculine and Feminine, the poster has his own way of understanding what "neutral" means, i.e. "normal" and "positive". --But the main issue for the Disambig project there is WP:DICT and a distracting non-dab link (Epicene). He won't let them go. Cheers, <b style="color:#FF3300;">Yamara</b> ✉  01:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Couple of things
If you recall our last "Shiro" discussion, it was somewhat decided that the redirect Shiro (Naruto) could be deleted. There is no reliable source at the redirect's target to back up the claim that Naruto`s Haku is known as Shiro in a Malaysian dub. Also, did you see this response from weeks ago? Please reply on your talk page, Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 21:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll go ahead and delete the redirect, then - thanks for the reminder. As yep, I did see that response about the difference between universe and media; that clarification was appreciated.  Hopefully I'll be able to enact this in the future. -- Nataly a  21:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I have an inquiry: should the talk pages of hndis articles be tagged with DisambigProject? I'm aware that set index articles shouldn't have it but not sure about those. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 21:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not 100% sure, since they could also be considered part of Wikiproject Anthroponymy. Technically, though, they are disambiguation pages, so if you feel like adding the tag, it probably is okay.  Just my opinion, though. -- Nataly a  21:55, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll keep that in mind. Eh, Baykal (disambiguation) still looks sloppy in spite of my edits there. Something is off, though I can't quite put my finger on it. Could you lend a hand? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:01, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm... I think my first thought is, are all of the links under other uses really needed? Can we distinguish between things with "Baikal" in them and things that really could be confused just with the name "Baikal"? -- Nataly a  02:15, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking we could use Baikal (disambiguation) for this purpose. What do you say? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:06, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a good idea; at least it will separate them out a little bit, so that if there are some that don't need to be there, they at least won't be overcrowding. -- Nataly a  11:37, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you start off with the splitting and leave the tweaks to me? Or other way around? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 15:02, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

(re-dent) I split them off, and did a little bit of cleaning (as well as modified the hatnote at Lake Baikal). Do you think it looks better? -- Nataly a 18:06, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes ;) that's quite what I was aiming for. Was this edit appropriate? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Juan Rodríguez looks more like an hndis page, does it not? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And I found a similar problem with Sabrina. Looks more like a dab page rather than an hndis. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 04:39, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Good call on the Wiktionary link. You're right about the tags on those two pages.  I'm usually more worried about pages mistakenly labled with hndis that are actually disambiguation pages, so I fixed Sabrina.  We could change Juan Rodríguez to hndis if desired, though.  Also, for Sabrina, since there is Sabrina (given name), I think it makes sense to move people named Sabrina to that page? -- Nataly a  11:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I have made that edit to Juan Rodríguez, and yes, people with the first name "Sabrina" should be re-located to Sabrina (given name). Did you happen to catch this by any chance? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 15:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Deletion on a wiki page link!
As a first time editor on Wikipedia, I was working on doing the translation for artist Luigi Serafini and his work, Codex Seraphinianus in Chinese. I made the mistake by logging on the English page to make my input and made an incorrect inquiry for translation request. Now the request page exists when I search for the work online in Google, for example. Can you help me with deleting the page or link that exists as a request on Wikipedia and on the web? The following is the link to the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/如何编辑页面 Thanks for your help!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deertofortune (talk • contribs) 13:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks like it's already been deleted! -- Nataly a 21:57, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

The page is deleted. However, I notice that the link(s) still exists if I search under Google if I look up 抄本Seraphinianus. An additional link was created since the last request noting the deletion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deertofortune Is it possible to delete the links permanently so they do not show up any longer when one looks up the term? Deertofortune (talk) 09:17, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm... I'm not sure, because it's pulling up the record of the deleted page. You might want to ask at the Village pump (technical), as they'll likely know more. -- Nataly a  11:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Baykal
Hi, Natalya! When you get a moment, could you, please, act on this? Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:52, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks like I failed to see this thread before posting to you. Anyway, I commented there as well.  Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for inputting your Russian expertise on the topic of the two different disambiguation pages - it was very helpful! -- Nataly a 01:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You are welcome, and thanks for your willingness to listen.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Absolutely! None of us is infallible (in fact, I find myself rather fallible sometimes!).  That's why we get to work together.  -- Nataly a  21:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * With the above in mind, could you, please, tell me when you are planning to merge these dabs back? Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Is there consensus to merge? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Was there a consensus to split? In any case, this is not about a consenus.  The split, as I think I have shown sufficiently, simply does not make sense; not unless people supporting it can back it up with facts countering the arguments I presented.  Also note that the title of Baikal (disambiguation) is in violation of WP:RUS; hence it should be fixed as soon as possible.  Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I've posted over at User_talk:Ezhiki about the details of the re-merge, but I think we had sort of reached an agreement - move all of the articles that are a translation of the same word back to Baykal (disambiguation), and leave any articles that are legitimately spelled "Baikal" at Baikal (disambiguation). The only one I'm worried about is Baikal MCM; I think the rest can all be moved back to Baykal (disambiguation). Are there any others that you are worried about? -- Nataly a 00:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the prompt reply, Natalya. To answer your question, every single entry on the Baikal (disambiguation) page can be referred to as "Baykal", as all of them are derived from the Russian word "Байкал".  Granted, the proper English name of the lake itself is "Baikal", but that doesn't mean "Baykal" is incorrect; it's just not used that often (and only in specialized contests).  As for the gun, as it is the company/product English name, seeing it romanized as "Baykal" would be very unusual, but still possible.  In any case, if you make an exception for the gun, that would leave only one entry on the page, defeating the purpose of disambiguation altogether.
 * Now, looking at your question in reverse, the Baykal (disambiguation) page actually does contain a couple of entries which cannot be spelled "Baikal". They include Baykal Kulaksızoğlu and Deniz Baykal—both are Turkish and have nothing to do with the Russian lake.  The rest of the entries, again, may be spelled either way in real life.  Hope this answers your question—if I still have left something unaddressed, please let me know.  Thanks much!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:06, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * So, it looks like Baikal MCM is the only thorn in our side. Since it's the only one really spelled "Baikal", under normal circumstances, we'd just have a hatnote linking to it from whatever page was at "Baikal".  Since that's a redirect, though, if we followed those guidelines, we'd end up with a hatnote at Lake Baykal pointing to Baykal (disambiguation) and Baikal MCM... which seems sort of silly.  My first thought is just to put it at Baykal (disambiguation), but I wonder if we could somehow mark in the hatnote at Lake Baykal that all things spelled "Baikal" or "Baykal" can be found at Baykal (disambiguation)?  What do you think? -- Nataly a  21:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not that much of a thorn, really. "Baykal" can be used in reference to "Baikal MCM", even though it normally isn't.  It is originally a Russian word, after all.  So, in my opinion, the original hatnote in Lake Baikal (that was used there before all of the controversy)&mdash;  &mdash;would do the job just fine.  If you are so inclined, another hatnote directing readers to Baikal MCM can be added, but I think it is going to be somewhat redundant.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:11, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Lists of Dragon Ball characters
Should this become a disambiguation page or something else? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 07:10, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps? It doesn't quite seem like a Set index article, and technically, it does seem like all of the lists on that page could be confused with "List of Dragonball Characters".  What do you think? -- Nataly a  11:24, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I have no clue. Actually, what were we going to do with a "List of Spider-Man episodes"? Maybe that discussion could be used as precedence. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 15:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Why not bring it up (again) on one of the disambiguation talk pages? More brains together will certainly be able to figure something out. -- Nataly a  15:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I *may* just do that, or do something like List of Harry Potter related topics. Can't really decide ATM. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 16:15, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Natalya!
Hello :). Nice to see a familiar name. I'm getting along fine. I've finished all my A level exams, got a place at Exeter University to study Spanish and German, organised my own concert, lost 8.5 pounds in a month on WeightWatchers and bought a new laptop to name but a few things. I'm hugely excited about University, particularly about all the music-making that'll be going on there. And getting my own bedroom. I still read Wikipedia all the time (it's my first port of call if I want to find something out), but I can't cope with editing any more. The community is completely different to how it was when I joined and I don't like the atmosphere, but all power to you for continuing! Oh, and I'd recently become very addicted to the Caesar III and Pharaoh video games. It's such a shame :P. Anyway, how are you and what have you been up to? It'd be great to see you on Skype sometime... Kindest regards, &mdash;Cel es tianpower háblame 18:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and it's great to still see the green "e" in your signature. I appreciate it, even if most of the people here these days have no idea what it stands for ;). &mdash;Cel es tianpower háblame 18:53, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm here! I'm here! I missed you by 3 minutes! Come back online! Regards, &mdash;Cel es tianpower háblame 11:15, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:On wiki > off wiki
Great to hear from you again, Natalya! I've been in a little bit more of a Wikipedia mood recently, but I'm averaging about 50-100 edits per month (back in my peak editing days, it was more like 400-700 edits per month). Part of that is trying to keep from burning myself out, but I'm sure a lot of it has to do with having an actual job. ;o) Everything is going wonderfully off-wiki, never been better. :o) How is everything going for you?

I guess I haven't been on the encyclopedia often enough to really get a feel for what the community is like any more, though it doesn't surprise me that it's not as cheery as it once was. You're more than welcome to use my userbox, as is anyone who would like to. I created it shortly after the whole mess ended around New Year's 2007. (related edit just before that here.) But, as with all things, life goes on, and for the most part I have healed from the whole experience, with the possible exception of occasionally thinking about how we could have handled things differently. However, all we can do now is try to spread community in similar ways that we used to, with or without the organization.

<font color="#0000EE">Eric (EWS23) 22:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Request
Since I am not a sysop, can you move Talk:Gypsy to Talk:Gypsy (disambiguation) to preserve its history? I also need your help on the primary topic. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:46, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Done! I also fixed the cut and paste move done on the page itself.  I'm getting good at doing those!  And thoughts on the primary topic? -- Nataly a  20:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. I could not come up with a shorter wording. You? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 00:26, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you mean the description of the primary topic at Gypsy (disambiguation)? It seems okay to me. -- Nataly a  00:42, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok then. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 00:44, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I was pondering, why hasn't anyone commented here? Did you see it? BTW I've conveyed a thought in this discussion. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 21:31, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Possibly because the disambiguation pages appear to be in a fine state, and editors don't particularly want to get unnecessarily involved in an argument between editors? -- Nataly a 12:13, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Haptic technology
Hi Natalya--I've been away for the past 10 days; sorry for not responding sooner. Thanks for agreeing to take care of the move of Haptic. I'd prefer to call it Haptic technology if there are no strong objections--Cooper24 (talk) 12:56, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Done! Thanks for letting me know - no worries about the delay. -- Nataly a  16:32, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply
re the China issue. It seems that I am now able to create an account (Dahan) and edit pages. A terrible curse as now I have to work out how to do it.

Many thanks. E. Dahan (talk) 03:31, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Glad to hear that you figured it out - good luck! -- Nataly a 11:22, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Archive size
Talk page archives should be large because they are data dumps, loaded rarely, edited rarely, and easy to index. Article pages are small because they are live, loaded often and edited often. Large archives helps manageability. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)
 * Yeah... I guess I can't really argue with that. I wonder why the previous archives have been so much smaller, then.  Not a particular big deal, though.  Thanks -- Nataly a  21:25, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Smaller archive sizes usually date to hand-archiving. :) Thanks to devs for bots that do one more unwanted chore. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

About your question for Kumiko Higa request by me
I only need help with nobility as per what you asked me.Kitty53 (talk) 05:29, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm a bit confused - could you clarify what you're referring to? -- Nataly a 11:19, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I am testing the article on User:Kitty53/Test page. I don't know if it is notable enough, yet, so that's why I asked for help. There is more info in the JP article for it. I think there is more info that can be translated from Japanese to English and added to the test article. How does that sound? Am I making the question sound easier? Just wondering.Kitty53 (talk) 18:00, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I get it now; thanks. :) It's just my own personal opinion, but taking a look at Notability_(people), I think that she is notable enough.  Her role as a voice actor in the Japanese version of Mega Man is definitly notable, and it seems that she's been in a large number of other series also.  However, I imagine you're much more familiar with those series than I am - did she have main roles in any of them, and are any of those series well-known?  Providing that she has at least one other prominent role, it seems like things should be okay.  However, others may have different opinions (just as a disclaimer!).  Please let me know if I can be of any other help, -- Nataly a  21:01, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

The tool to find links to disambiguation pages is wonderful!
Believeing that you are the creator of it, I wanted to say how much I love the dabfinder tool! As someone who works with disambiguation pages quite a bit, it is wonerfully convenient to have that search to be able to find all the links to disambiguation pages on a given page. I know the toolserver page says that it is "currently experimental and may disappear in the future.", but I certianly hope it stays around! -- Nataly a 21:54, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The method is based on User:Splarka/dabfinder.js which does a much better job of displaying the disambiguation links than the tool does. (I intend to help make an AWB disambig plugin)  I coded it to learn about the Toolserver's SQL features.  I was planning on including it in a auto-reviewer tool, but I don't have the time right now to do it.  Hope it helps.  — Dispenser 03:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Inquiry
Aren't these types of things discouraged on dabs? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know if I've ever seen anyone try and put one of those on a page. My first reaction is that they're only for articles about Love, but as I think about it more, most of the terms on that table can be referred to as "Love"... and that it might be helpful?  It's only my opinion, though.  I'm going to bring it up at MoS:DP, to see what others think. -- Nataly a  11:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Help page
Hi Natalya, You just answered my question about questioning a "fact" on the help page. Thank you! AlexanderRoecop (talk) 11:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

DYK update
Your DYK update was fine, but you should have used a couple of US hooks, for better worldwide representation and because there was room for two more hooks.-- Bedford <sup style="color:pink;">Pray  02:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear that I didn't screw anything up too badly. Ah, I can see that there is some extra space on the Main Page.  I took the entries that had been listed at Template:Did you know/Next update, assuming that that was the approriate number/size.  Looking at the history, though, I see that more than six entries do get added.  On the offchance that again there aren't enough the next time the update comes around, can some just be grabbed from Template talk:Did you know that have overall approval?  Thanks for your help. -- Nataly a  02:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * There are three US entries that still need to be used from July 3rd. I couldn't place them as two are mine, and the other I suggested an alt link, so I shouldn't place that one either.  But all three are acceptable to everyone save for one guy who wants to add new criterion that no one else does.  If you add two, put one between the first and second hooks, and the other between the fourth and fifth hooks, so two European hooks are not right next to each other.-- Bedford  <sup style="color:pink;">Pray  02:33, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Turns out, you did make one fair-sized screwup. To clear the next update means you did the credits, which you didn't.  So people weren't told their noms were up.  Don't fret too much; it was your first time, after all.  Experience can't be substituted.-- Bedford  <sup style="color:pink;">Pray  05:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Alas! Okay, good to know for next time.  Clear it off the page, and use Template:UpdatedDYK on each contributor's userpage.  Thanks for letting me know. -- Nataly a  11:22, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

DYK archive
Regarding this edit, you are supposed to include picture in the update, like this. --BorgQueen (talk) 13:03, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh! Okay!  Thanks for letting me know - I'll be sure to remember for next time. -- Nataly a  17:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Latoya
There appears to be two things "wrong" with this page. The title for one, and the fact that it is marked as a dab rather than a name page. What are your thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:03, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the names are all similar enough to be valid misspellings to have on the same page, under MOS:DP. And instead of the dab labeling, we could use given name.  As for the the title of the page, it's already been moved to the proper capitalization. -- Nataly a  22:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I took the liberty to make the move, as there were no instances of a uncapitalized T.-- Bedford <sup style="color:pink;">Pray  22:41, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! -- Nataly a 22:46, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks folks ;) Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:50, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

DYK credits
Natalya, thanks for helping out with DYK, but don't forget that when you do the credits you have to credit both the article and the creators/nominators. You credited the creators for this update but you forgot to credit the articles themselves. Don't worry about it now, I've credited them already, it's just something to bear in mind for next time. Gatoclass (talk) 03:13, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know about that! I'm slowly getting the hang of it... one of these days, I'll actually have all the things done properly. :)  But no, seriously, thanks.  Being sort of new to this, I figured I'd ask, but do you think anyone would mind if I added a few bits of information to Template:Did_you_know/Next_update?  I've now learned a couple other things that also need to be done after the update, but aren't on that list (and it might at least help for those just getting acquainted with updating DYK).  Oh, and thank you for taking care of the article credits this time. -- Nataly a  10:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not too keen on the idea of adding more material to the "after posting next update" section, I deliberately kept it simple and straightforward so as not to overwhelm novice updaters. What did you have in mind? Gatoclass (talk) 10:03, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Just the bit about crediting the article creators/nominators and the associated talk pages. Although I may just be being dense about it, though there is the whole section about credits and the credit templates, it never actually says that notifying everyone is something to be done when an update goes through.  Though... perhaps a more observant editor would assume that since all the templates are listed there, they should actually be used... :)  Either way is okay - just looking to be helpful.  I definitly understand not being overwhelming, though. -- Nataly a  10:07, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I can't say the idea has much appeal. I deliberately left that out of the instructions because, for one thing, doing the credits is already covered in the section above. Gatoclass (talk) 10:11, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay. You certainly know more about it than me!  You and the other seasoned DKY folks have been kind enough to let me know where I've forgotten things, so I'm sure if anyone else misses it, they'll also learn. -- Nataly a  10:14, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You haven't asked me at a convenient time as I'm in the middle of preparing an update. I probably need more time to think about it, so I'll try to take a look at the structure later and give you a more considered opinion. Gatoclass (talk) 10:17, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, I had a think about it, and maybe you're right it wouldn't hurt to suggest doing the credits as well. I've edited the next update/clear page accordingly, the new set of instructions will appear the next time the next update page is reset. Cheers, Gatoclass (talk) 10:43, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for considering it (and, though it certainly wasn't purposeful, my apologies for catching you at a busy time). The way you've put it is very polite, and doesn't seem very overwhelming, which should hopefully still be good for those new to updates. -- Nataly a  10:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. And thankyou for suggesting the idea in the first place :) Gatoclass (talk) 11:13, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Credit for ITN.
Hey buddy, it feels nice to see my nomination getting to the Main page ITN. But just thought if you gift me some souvenir like this for my collection. -- gp pande  «talk»  20:37, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * There you go! Thanks for letting me know about the credits (I was waiting for someone to tell me I'd forgotten something, it being my first time updating ITN). :) Off to credit the article, too. -- Nataly a 20:56, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! -- gp pande  «talk»  21:15, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar thanks
Thanks for your barnstar. The Help Desk appears to be a good place to get them. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:00, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Eponyms of the kiwi
Is this "mess" a set index article? Seems it was split from Kiwi (disambiguation), and no cleanup was made. What are your thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:54, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow! What a great name for an article.  After thinking about it for a while, I don't think it needs to exist.  It's not really a set index article (D says that all the things on a set index article should be about the same thing, like cars).  This seems more like a disambiguation page trying to be encyclopedic.  Nothing links to it, however.  Also oddly, all the interwiki links are for pages named "Kiwi".  I'd say, move anything from it to Kiwi (disambiguation) that isn't already there (and that is valid to be there), and then either make it a redirect or we can delete it.  But, that's just me.  What do you think about it? -- Nataly a  22:38, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd say delete it. Seems everything is already on the Kiwi dab. BTW, thanks for the barnstar! Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 21:38, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Done! And, you're welcome! -- Nataly a  21:50, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I would be remiss if i failed to point out to you that altho Eponyms of the kiwi probably duplicates all 15 entries on Kiwi (disambiguation), Eponyms of the kiwi also had about an equal number of additional entries that appear there only, bcz their former presence on Kiwi (disambiguation) violated MoSDab. I hasten to add that my own tentative opinion is that those non-duplicated entries have no need to appear in one place -- let alone accompanied by duplicates of the DAb-page entries -- but
 * i expect those who put them on the old version of the Dab page will consider the deletion removal controversial, and
 * the obvious interpretation of your deletion summary, that there was no info there except what is duplicated on the Dab, is contrary to the facts.
 * My creation of Eponyms of the kiwi was the means of leaving it to someone else to make the decision, and the arguments to go with it, that that sort of list of eponyms masquerading as a Dab page not only fails to Dab efficiently, as MoSDab tries to ensure, but further, (as i assume) it doesn't have some other encyclopedic purpose. I'm not asking for undeletion, any more than i asked for deletion, but i don't want you to have the impression that i could, if asked, support the speedy on the basis you cited. I fear i've made some confusing distinctions, so don't hesitate to press me for clarification. --Jerzy•t 10:35, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I appreciate you sharing your concerns, Jerzy. In hindsight, it might not have been a bad idea to put it through an AFD, just because it's not quite the same sort of unnecessary disambiguation page that usually gets deleted.  Actually, (I don't know if there's precident for this, but I'm going to do it anyway), I'm going to undelete it and put it up for an AfD.  It may turn out the same, but it may not, and perhaps others will have good ideas on how to make it a more useful page.  Thanks for calling me on my quickness to the trigger.  As for the deletion summary (and, thus, the rational for deleting it), it seemed that all the articles that could legitimately be on Kiwi (disambiguation) were there, and the rest listed at Eponyms of the kiwi just happened to have "Kiwi" in the name, and be about New Zealand.  I tried to think of a way that it could be a set index article, but it didn't seem like one. -- Nataly a  11:02, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Here's the AfD - Articles for deletion/Eponyms of the kiwi. -- Nataly a 11:16, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I guess my approach to this is that i'm pretty sure i understand what the hell Dab's are for, that i'm willing to be pretty aggressive in getting the rest of what people put into them out, but that i'm trying hard not to be invested too much in grasping what kind of error leads them into putting them in, but instead to be invested in letting Many Eyes worry about that, and thus about what to do with the cruft. All of this sits well in my model of WP, which is roughly that
 * -- most Wp'ians know
 * -- that they understand how the whole thing works, and  -- that an overwhelming  plurality of Wp'ians share that understanding with them
 * -- but most of them grossly overestimate how many agree with them, and -- while it can not be said with certainty, that error makes it extremely likely that absolutely none of us have much of idea at all of how the whole thing works.
 * There are of course a number of theories about the implications of a person entertaining the state of mind i've just described as my own; some of them are pretty horrifying. I endorse what you've done; i don't expect to participate in the AfD, but i'll monitor it, in case "merge with Dab" turns out to have any advocates. (It suddenly comforts me that i've called myself IIRC a deletionist with mergist tendencies.) Thanks! --Jerzy•t 18:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I enjoyed pondering your Wikipedia philosophy - very thoughtful! I find that once I just start to feel like I really know what I'm doing, I realize that I really have no grasp on it at all.  Thus, I'm glad that we all work together on this, and attempt (and often succeed) to figure things out. -- Nataly a  20:19, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * And all's well that ends well. Thanks. [smile] --Jerzy•t 04:35, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Moving a page
Hi Natalya: thanks for your prompt response regarding my question: how to move a page from my user page to "live" Wikipedia. However, there is no "Move" tab near the top of the page. Do you have any suggestions? Sorry for the bother, but I am new at this. Thanks again, Joseph Levi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseph Levi (talk • contribs) 23:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * It's not a bother at all! In order to move a page, you must be an autoconfirmed user, meaning your account has existed for at least four days, and you have made at least 10 edits.  Since you haven't made that many edits yet, that's why the move tab doesn't show up.  However, as User:Gtstricky mentioned at your question at the New Contributors' Help Page, you can also just create the article (as described at Your first article) and then copy and paste the text in, which you should be able to do now.  I hope that helps, but if not, feel free to ask more questions!  Also, As a courtesy to other editors, it is a Wikipedia guideline to sign your posts on talk pages, user talk pages, and WikiProject pages. To do so, simply add four tildes ( ~ ) at the end of your comments. Your user name or IP address (if you are not logged in) and the date will then be automatically added along with a timestamp when you save your comment. Signing your comments helps people to find out who said something and provides them with a link to your user/talk page (for further discussion). For further info, read Talk page guidelines. Thank you. -- Nataly a  00:50, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Eponyms of the kiwi
''Content moved to previous section that i didn't notice. --Jerzy•t 10:39, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar
Thanks for my barnstar, Natalya. I just got back from a little trip to find it waiting for me (along with some drama), so it was haply timed. -- JHunterJ (talk) 04:11, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! Too bad about the drama (it does seem abundant here, eh?), but I hope all is well. -- Nataly a  10:48, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Metaxas vs. Metaxas (disambiguation)
Natalya, Don't know how I missed it, but thanks for fixing the dab. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Not a problem! -- Nataly a 17:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Antagonist
I left a request there. Perhaps you can take a look? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:42, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Please send me a copy of my article...
Hi! My page "Devin Bhushan" was recently deleted and I was wondering if you would provide me with a copy of the article?

PS You have a very sexy name: Natalya is thats your real name =]

email me the article please —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blusnail (talk • contribs) 23:33, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * If you'll enable an email account for your account (which you can do by going to 'my preferences' in the top right hand corner, and adding your email address), I'll email the text of the article to you. If you plan to resubmit it to Wikipedia at any point, please be aware that if was deleted because the subject of the article did not meet Wikipedia's standards for notability of people.  If you continue to recreate it without asserting notability, you may be blocked.  If you feel that it has been deleted unfairly, you can bring it up at deletion review, which is much less contentious than simply recreating it (which will just get you into trouble). -- Nataly a  23:50, 28 July 2008 (UTC)