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JJS Karate Dojo
A blessed day. I'm very glad to know that you are a martial artist at the same time an admin in martial arts wiki project and for sure you are a good editor. If you will agree with me martial arts don't pay much in tournament our even as a trainer, not like in boxing that they are paid lots of dollars. Good thing if you are a superstar, an actor, stuntman or a fighter in UFC. Martial arts like karate don't even had a limelight or a spot light compared to Tennis, Golf, Football and Basketball athletes in the media world what I'm trying to emphases that its hard for us karatekas to have a good sources or in wikipedia terms "3rd party sources" like the magazine and etc, not of course if you are a rich and can affort to have a press conference. With regards to this matter I'm solicating your advice regarding my article JJS Karate Dojo. Frankly speaking I'm having a hard time saving my article from deletion. Yes, our dojo is so small compared to other dojo abroad but somehow we like the world to know that we exist and our kids are having a good time and achieving. It would be a great help if you could somehow visit my article and do improve or save it from deletion. Looking forward for your support in this matter. (Jjskarate (talk) 04:05, 20 November 2008 (UTC))

THANK YOU SO MUCH for saving my article and for making it worth reading... I was really impress/delighted to see my article today. MORE POWER TO YOU!! Jjskarate (talk) 23:59, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

...a BOW as a sign of my respect to you as a martial artist and a good fellow who give special attention and support to those who needed help. OOSSS Jjskarate (talk) 05:09, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

You made my day NATE1481. Thankz a lot for your help and for that powerful words and encouraging message. I do love to hang around here since my article was accepted, glad to have one someday but for now I am contented and very happy to inform all my friends and karatekas about JJS article and they love it!! STAY COOL and NICE!! Jjskarate (talk) 02:27, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi, hope you're having a good time there. I tried to come up again with another article related to our karate dojo, this time its about our karate instructor Randy Mengullo. I'm doing my best to save it from deletion because somehow our sensei deserve a little place here in wikipedia because of his contribution in martial arts world. Yes, he may not be that famous but his work and achievements as a trainer/coach for little children are beyond compare... Hope you can visit my article or the talk page if you have time. HAVE A NICE DAY AHEAD!! Jjskarate (talk) 01:37, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Good deal on helping out the Jack and Jill School article. If I knew how to award you one of those fancy barnstars or whatever I would. lol User5802 (talk) 04:18, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi again, hope you're doing fine. Thankz for always there... Your friend User5802 also help me in my new article Randy Mengullo but somehow I'm still struggling to make it possible. Glad to have you both as friends here. STAY COOL!! Jjskarate (talk) 00:59, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Commented in the talk page of the Bullshido article.
Don't think Alexa info should be stated in the first portion of this article. Perhaps somewhere else in the article. User5802 (talk) 06:03, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

WJJF
Hi, I'm in the wjjf too. I wanted to improve the page of my federation, please check it out to correct wrong things. Bye --M.c.april (talk) 12:34, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

wjjf update
I updated the page correcting grammar errors and the layout. I corrected the license of the images and I also added new references. Can you give the page a new rate? That page is now rated C-class. can i add this video? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:25_straight_throws_wjjf.OGG Bye --M.c.april (talk) 17:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Randy Mengullo
Thank you for time, support and expertise in helping my new article. You've a good point in the discussion of Randy Mengullo

Some small facts that somehow may help:

1. During the time when sensei Randy Mengullo is still active in martial arts competitions (1988-1994) computer and internet are just read or topics in the book. The Visayan Daily Star (35 years in the print media), the most awarded newspaper in the region have just established computer/internet access more or less in the year 2001. That's why its hard for us to established notability if the google search is the measurement of standard. I have here a dosen of "hard copy/original" press realeses, sports news and certificates to concerning sensei Mengullo achievements.

2. Jack & Jill School is a elementary institution and most of the players are ages 6-12. That's why it hard for us to established prominent figure because most of te media people focus in the college level or professional level competitions and some of our students transfered to Manila or Cebu to pursue their college education. I may say the team belongs to the "grass roots" level of sports program in the country but if given the chance to compete the team shines from City Meet, Provincial, Regional up to National level competitions. It always proven in the National Karatedo Federation Karatedo Championship and Philipine Olympic Festival held every year in different area in the contry (the local version of Olympic).

3. I tried to give references even the name of the Mr. Randy Mengullo are not mention in the press release or in the sports news because it's all connected when talking karate achievements is concern. Some of the sport news only mention Jack & Jill School Team, JJS Karate, JJS karatedo or simply JJS but in general the official coach/trainer is Mr. Mengullo.

Hope it can somehow help or clear this topic. Thank you so much!!! Jjskarate (talk) 07:38, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

The article of sensei Randy Mengullo was published yesterday in "Sunday Inquirer Magazine" of Philippine Daily Inquirer, one of the leading national newspaper in the country. Kindy help me make this a reference accepted to retain or pass the notability... THANK YOU SO MUCH in advance!!! http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/sim/sim/view/20081214-177923/Life-Lessons-from-Karate Jjskarate (talk) 00:54, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Really need your help

Thank you for your precious time and help. MERRY CHRISTMAS. Jjskarate (talk) 07:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Tenshin Shōden Katori Shintō-ryū
I agree that the ext links were excessive and have wanted to trim them for some time now - but always resisted because the home dojo isn't in English. In retrospec, I guess those English links aren't hard to find via google, so no large loss. Good edit. &mdash; Mrand Talk • C 16:01, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Krav Maga
The page I added to the External Links is not my page. Does "User Essay" mean something other than what it sounds like? I reviewed the rule regarding External Links, and this did not seem to apply. How am I misunderstanding this, please help me to understand this rule's application here. Thank you.

What should be linked Shortcut: WP:ELYES Wikipedia articles about any organization, person, web site, or other entity should link to the subject's official site, if any. An article about a book, a musical score, or some other media should link to a site hosting a copy of the work if none of the "Links normally to be avoided" criteria apply. Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues, amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks) or other reasons. Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as reviews and interviews.

This is the guideline I used and it still seems applicable to me, am I wrong? --63.226.23.69 (talk) 17:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Nate there is no "Martial art group" infobox
User5802 (talk) 17:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Curious
What is it about the ITA page that you see as being so wrong? No comments but labeling the page seems sort of disengenuous... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bweldon (talk • contribs) 05:06, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

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Wing Chun linneage article
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Krav Maga: Aikido
Hello,

I don't want this to seem like I am targeting you. However, I do need to point out that Imi approved his first Black Belt, Eli Avikzar, to not only attend Aikido and Judo classes, but also encouraged him to get Black Belts in both. All so they could determine what of each could be used to improve Krav Maga for both military and civilian use. After adding some principles from both of these, Imi retired from the military and Eli replaced him as the head of military training. It was at this point that Eli, with Imi's blessing, chose to distinguish himself by naming his interpretation "Krav Magen". You can pick up some of the tidbits HERE. Rick Seid is a well known student of Guy Dar who was a direct student of Mr. Avikzar. Rick knew Eli and they were friends, but his training under him was a bit limited. At any rate, Imi did approve of the addition of many techniques/principles from Eli's experience in Judo and Aikido. They were used specifically to make Krav more easily learned by civilians, due to the use of proper body mechanics. I hope this helps, and again, I don't mean this to be an attack. I don't know if it is important enough to include in this Wiki-Article, but it is none the less true and correct information. --KravTeacher (talk) 16:42, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Nate,

Thanks for your reply, I didn't look as closely as I should have in regard to the removal of other known systems which have influenced Krav Maga. Sorry about that. It is however a well known fact that Imi did include some, though not anywhere near all or even a lot, of the principles that Mr. Avikzar brought in from his judo and aikido experience. There are those, who I will not name here, who have carried the implication that aikido was a major influence on the krav seen today. This is likely untrue. One of my instructors trained under Mr. Avikzar and he speaks fondly of the changes Mr. Avikzar brought to the system. His experience under Mr. Avikzar was in military service and he attests to the influence of both arts. I wish I could say how much from each, but I suppose that's not possible, at least not for me as I never knew Mr. Avikzar. I am not suggesting that Rick Seid's website be used to cite the article in any way, he is however a credible source. His page including info. on Mr. Avikzar just deosn't meet Wiki criteria. Be well --KravTeacher (talk) 02:31, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Nate,

I have located an interesting online article. The homepage is that of the organization which Mr. Avikzar started with Imi's approval. However, this particular page has no advertising and doesn't seem to be promoting the org. Since it does not seem self serving, do you suppose it could be used? If so how and where? If you would please, take a look: Eli Avikzar Thanks for asking me to help! --KravTeacher (talk) 19:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Rowing
I see on the rowing page that you've been using the wiki syntax of ; to mark up sub-headings. Can I suggest that this isn't a very good practice to adopt? What it does is mark that line as being the first part of a definition list (ie. a definition term) that you're not supplying a definition for (look at the HTML markup generated). If it's going to be a heading, it needs to use one of the heading syntaxes if possible. Thanks! Mrh30 (talk) 16:49, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

More fun with Oom Yung Doe
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How shall I post
The intention was to offer an external link on boxing where individuals can learn information on how to get started on boxing. Feel free to review the site and see if I was incorrect if the site does not offer that to individuals who are interested in getting started in the sport. The primary reason I posted it is if you check out http://www.boxing-for-life.com/preparing-to-box.html. It has a lot of information on what you need to get started. If you could please respond and answer what differnce do the sites that are currently up offer than the site I posted I would greatly appreciate it. They do not add to article they offer additional information beyound what is listed as what I thought you were suppose to do. Or was the problem in what the link was titled? Thank you for your response in advance.

Also I have an article written in regards to boxing combination and conditioning that I wrote that comes from that site. It is on my sub page under my user page. Please check it out and possible edit before I make it live.

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Kendo article edit war
Hi Nate148. I have reported user 90.184.244.234, for the repeated re-edits. If you agree, your support would be welcome. Kendo 66 13:30, 4 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kendo 66 (talk • contribs)
 * Thanks for helping out by correcting my complaint structure.

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Snowshoe tagging
Could you go into some specifics as to where the tone problems exist? Daniel Case (talk) 15:40, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I see what you mean. A couple of years ago I greatly expanded that one with an eye towards a future FA nom. But since then I got into doing other things, we got stricter about inline sourcing and, while I still would like to do this, right now I just keep an eye on the article and haven't always removed things that weren't obvious vandalism. Daniel Case (talk) 17:54, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

GKR Karate
I know personally these details are true. How can I be breaking rules? sulstar —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sulstar (talk • contribs) 16:56, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm satisfied with what is currently there now in GKR Karate - Thanks,its just all about learning the wikipedia boundaries. Sorry about any confusion —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sulstar (talk • contribs) 17:06, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Jon Hess
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WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG
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