User talk:Native Eye

April 2016
Hello, I'm CorbieVreccan. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Dreamcatcher, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. ''Please respect Wikipedia guidelines around Civility. Removal of unsourced or inappropriate content (barbed wire? PVC pipe?) is not "vandalism," so please don't call other's edits that.'' -  Co rb ie V    ☊ ☼ 21:24, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Hello CorbieVreccan. I did make a change to that article yes. Which portions do you feel needed sources or citations? Removal of significant content that adheres to the AUP of wikipedia without discussion or valid grounds is indeed vandalism. Yes you did make a mistake. All images listed currently and the many more to follow are all cited correctly on each images page. I am new to wikipedia and I am learning but that doesn't excuse the removal of a significant addition to this page for no valid reason. If you have concerns, please voice them before removing content that this page, and posterity so desperately needs. Native Eye (talk) 06:25, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Copyright issues
Are you connected with the commercial site http://dreamcatcher.com/? Because text and images you have inserted into the Dreamcatcher article are identical to the content on that site, making these contribs potentially either a WP:Copyvio or WP:COI issue. Please advise. In the meantime, we will probably have to remove these additions unless and until these issues are cleared up. - Co rb ie V    ☊ ☼ 21:40, 8 April 2016 (UTC)


 * All images adhere to wikipedia guidelines and with permission. Please stop deleting images simply because you don't understand them. If you have questions please ask. The barbed wire issue... I apologize I thought I had posted a barbed wire dream catcher. It seems I did not. Native Eye (talk) 06:03, 14 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Several of us looked around the web and found those images with differing artists credited. We also consulted several Native artisans about these images. Some of them are sold out of a non-Native company in Las Vegas, who state they are not Native made. A number are clearly the Made in China variety. You have not answered if that is your website - the one where whole listings of items for sale were copied and pasted onto WP, which violates our copyright policies. Please do not insult people's intelligence by making the claim that barbed wire and PVC are traditional materials for dreamcatchers in Native cultures. You are again violating WP:CIVILITY. An additional admin has now hidden the revisions as "blatant copyvios," so it's not just me telling you this. Again, Did you take those photos yourself and did you write the text on that commercial website? - Co rb ie V    ☊ ☼ 16:21, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

April 2016
Your addition to Dreamcatcher has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images&mdash;you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. - Co rb ie V    ☊ ☼ 16:30, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

As I stated before the images are not in violation of copyright. They are used here with permission, please do your due diligence. You said "we" consulted native artisans? Who's the "we"? Who did you consult in Las Vegas? I do not believe such a conversation ever took place since anyone with a collection or who makes them would have known what they were looking at.

Your claim that they were found on multiple sites is a pure fabrication. All of the pictures are of Native made pieces and yet you continue to delete them and revert to that photo that is clearly made in china or india.. What's your motivation here? Why are you telling tall tales? Clearly your actions do not appear to be in the best interest of the artists, the history or the legacy of dream catchers or the vested interests of posterity or WikiPedia. I posted no pictures of anything with PVC and I don't believe I uploaded anything with barbed wire although I have two in my collection that are made by a Cherokee man from Oklahoma. It seems you have a personal motivation here to keep misinformation on the page. Your actions are not that of a reasonable person but that of someone with an ulterior motive.

There is no violation of civility here. If anyone here is violating anything, it's you. You're clearly taking a substantial contribution displaying the varying styles of Native made dream catchers and replacing them with a lone picture of a knock-off piece that is not Native made. Who is the other admin? No offense but you've lost touch with your duties and lost objectivity. If you objectively looked at the contribution and if you truly understood the subject matter you'd have clicked "thank" instead of trying to interfere and hinder my contribution.

It's a shame you take the best single contribution to this page and you defile it. It's troubling and does not pass the sniff test. The question must be asked why you leave links to commercial sites up yet you remove valid content. Is that the new doctrine of WikiPedia? Pay to play? If so it's disgraceful. Native Eye (talk) 04:19, 18 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Native Eye. There are no links on the page to commercial sites however the pictures you repeatedly try to add ARE from a commercial site. Are you affiliated with http://dreamcatcher.com/? Why do you repeatedly remove content regarding commercialization and appropriation of indigenous cultural property?Indigenous girl (talk) 12:27, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. - Co rb ie V    ☊ ☼ 15:20, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for Repeated copyright violations. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 15:37, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Despite repeated requests, you continued to post images of unclear copyright. There are ways to use copyrighted images, but your refusal to provide alternative images or licensing information for the problem images has become disruptive. Until you can convincingly agree to abide by our policies regarding the use of copyrighted content, you have been blocked from editing. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 15:37, 18 April 2016 (UTC)